Is Obama an "Affirmative Action President?"

usamamasan1
usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
edited November 2011 in A Moving Train
Just read a very interesting article by Matt Patterson (columnist for the Washington Post, New York Post and San Francisco Examiner). Thought I would share with this community to get your thoughts. For the record, I think affirmative action is wrong and adds to discrimination by not giving qualified people what they have earned on their own merit.

August 18, 2011
Obama: The Affirmative Action President
By Matt Patterson


Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job?
Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer"; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as legislator.
And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor"; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?
Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal:
To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass.
Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass -- held to a lower standard -- because of the color of his skin. Podhoretz continues:
And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) "non-threatening," all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest?
Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon -- affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.
Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don't care if these minority students fail; liberals aren't around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin -- that's affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn't racism, then nothing is. And that is what America did to Obama.
True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary. What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks?
In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama's oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people -- conservatives included -- ought now to be deeply embarrassed. The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that's when he has his teleprompter in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth -- it's all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years.
And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?
In short: our president is a small and small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office.
But hey, at least we got to feel good about ourselves for a little while. And really, isn't that all that matters these days?
See also: The Era of Confronting Obama at Public Events
Update:
Author's Note. A lot of readers have written in asking me how I came to the conclusion that Obama was an unremarkable student and that he benefited from affirmative action. Three reasons:
1) As reported by The New York Sun: "A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors..." In spite of not receiving honors as an undergrad, Obama was nevertheless admitted to Harvard Law. Why?

2) Obama himself has written he was a poor student as a young man. As the Baltimore Sun reported, in:
"'Obama's book 'Dreams from My Father,'....the president recalled a time in his life...when he started to drift away from the path of success. 'I had learned not to care,' Obama wrote. '... Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.' But his mother confronted him about his behavior. 'Don't you think you're being a little casual about your future?" she asked him, according to the book. '... One of your friends was just arrested for drug possession. Your grades are slipping. You haven't even started on your college applications.'"
3) Most damning to me is the president's unwillingness to make his transcripts public. If Obama had really been a stellar student with impeccable grades as an undergrad, is there any doubt they would have been made public by now and trumpeted on the front page of the New York Times as proof of his brilliance? To me it all adds up to affirmative action.
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  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    Who gives a shit?
    He's President now and that won't change. Even if the premise is true (not saying it is by any means) how is it different than someone getting elected because of their name? Or someone elected because they were X's vice president?
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Thanks for sharing.
  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    You're welcome.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    is he the affirmative action president?

    no.

    is he the "white guilt" president?

    no.

    was he the better option than the mccain/palin ticket?

    absolutely.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ok but should he have been the democratic candidate?
    I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,440
    ok but should he have been the democratic candidate?
    the situation is as it is. it can't be undone now.

    unfortunately we can't revise history.

    i'll do ya one better.

    in hindsight, should any president since fdr actually have gotten their party's nomination? i can make a case for no.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    He was elected by a clear majority. It's not affirmative action.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • I don't think it is totally outrageous to think he got some votes because he was black. That being said, I think the democrat candidate was going to win regardless of what they looked like.
  • and with hillary being their other real option it would have probably have been said that she got votes for being a woman
    I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    probably just as many votes against him because he was black if you want to look at it that way.
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    maj4e wrote:
    probably just as many votes against him because he was black if you want to look at it that way.

    I'd say there were FAR more votes against him because he's black. The McCain/Palin ticket was so reprehensible, that it's shameful that they got as many votes as they did. Should have been a landslide for Obama/Biden.
  • kenny olav wrote:
    maj4e wrote:
    probably just as many votes against him because he was black if you want to look at it that way.

    I'd say there were FAR more votes against him because he's black. The McCain/Palin ticket was so reprehensible, that it's shameful that they got as many votes as they did. Should have been a landslide for Obama/Biden.

    I think there were FAR more votes against him because he was a democrat. I can't imagine a large demographic of people that voted for McCain that would have voted for a white democratic.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Maybe it depends on where you live, but I seem to remember a democratic rally against Obama in PA because he was black. Was it the norm? I'm not sure, but this dude's article is about as condescending and asinine as they come. It reads like a "white man's burden" piece that suggests we need to bring minorities up "hard" because they can't possibly operate on a white man's level. Of course this totally disregards how much "affirmative action" there is for rich kids like W. who never earned a fucking thing in his life, got into politics by getting other people to buy a baseball team for him and funded a stadium through public subsidies (rich people's welfare). He was a coke-blowing, idiot, that didn't earn a single thing himself, and Obama is the affirmative action president? Get a clue. And no I don't totally support Obama's actions, but please this is just stupid and an insult to his readers' intelligence.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    he is an affirmative action president if you mean that people voted yes (affirmative response) during voting (an action).


    i think one could point to affirmative action programs and say that without them we may not have seen an African American president.

    I think people could make their own judgments of the man and I for one am glad that people got past all of the silly things that still keep a candidate out of the running like past drug use, past associations, and even the color of one's skin. things that happen 20-30 years prior to running are the past. They don't always have to tell us about the future. Jesus, i look at what I was doing and saying 20 years ago and think who was that guy...even 10 years ago...people change...past associations are just that...He certainly isn't my cup of tea but I can see why people support(ed) him and I don't think it had to do with race.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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    - Joe Rogan
  • RW81233 wrote:
    Maybe it depends on where you live, but I seem to remember a democratic rally against Obama in PA because he was black. Was it the norm? I'm not sure, but this dude's article is about as condescending and asinine as they come. It reads like a "white man's burden" piece that suggests we need to bring minorities up "hard" because they can't possibly operate on a white man's level. Of course this totally disregards how much "affirmative action" there is for rich kids like W. who never earned a fucking thing in his life, got into politics by getting other people to buy a baseball team for him and funded a stadium through public subsidies (rich people's welfare). He was a coke-blowing, idiot, that didn't earn a single thing himself, and Obama is the affirmative action president? Get a clue. And no I don't totally support Obama's actions, but please this is just stupid and an insult to his readers' intelligence.


    Actually, W earned a MBA from Harvard. Flew fighter jets for the Air Force. Won the Presidency of the United States, then won it again.

    If he wanted to be as big of a loser as you say, he could have just been a teacher... they don't do shit.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    RW81233 wrote:
    Maybe it depends on where you live, but I seem to remember a democratic rally against Obama in PA because he was black. Was it the norm? I'm not sure, but this dude's article is about as condescending and asinine as they come. It reads like a "white man's burden" piece that suggests we need to bring minorities up "hard" because they can't possibly operate on a white man's level. Of course this totally disregards how much "affirmative action" there is for rich kids like W. who never earned a fucking thing in his life, got into politics by getting other people to buy a baseball team for him and funded a stadium through public subsidies (rich people's welfare). He was a coke-blowing, idiot, that didn't earn a single thing himself, and Obama is the affirmative action president? Get a clue. And no I don't totally support Obama's actions, but please this is just stupid and an insult to his readers' intelligence.


    Actually, W earned a MBA from Harvard. Flew fighter jets for the Air Force. Won the Presidency of the United States, then won it again.

    If he wanted to be as big of a loser as you say, he could have just been a teacher... they don't do shit.
    if you want to say earned rather than paid for by daddy that's cool, maybe, and definitely didn't win the first time. As for your teacher comment:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxsOVK4syxU
  • RW81233 wrote:
    RW81233 wrote:
    Maybe it depends on where you live, but I seem to remember a democratic rally against Obama in PA because he was black. Was it the norm? I'm not sure, but this dude's article is about as condescending and asinine as they come. It reads like a "white man's burden" piece that suggests we need to bring minorities up "hard" because they can't possibly operate on a white man's level. Of course this totally disregards how much "affirmative action" there is for rich kids like W. who never earned a fucking thing in his life, got into politics by getting other people to buy a baseball team for him and funded a stadium through public subsidies (rich people's welfare). He was a coke-blowing, idiot, that didn't earn a single thing himself, and Obama is the affirmative action president? Get a clue. And no I don't totally support Obama's actions, but please this is just stupid and an insult to his readers' intelligence.


    Actually, W earned a MBA from Harvard. Flew fighter jets for the Air Force. Won the Presidency of the United States, then won it again.

    If he wanted to be as big of a loser as you say, he could have just been a teacher... they don't do shit.
    if you want to say earned rather than paid for by daddy that's cool, maybe, and definitely didn't win the first time. As for your teacher comment:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxsOVK4syxU


    How does one's Dad pay for them to fly fighter jets for the AF?

    Sounds like a bitter "professor" to me.
  • Enjoyed that article....

    Thanks for posting.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    RW81233 wrote:
    . As for your teacher comment:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxsOVK4syxU

    Thank you, teachers!
    :clap: :thumbup:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Just read a very interesting article by Matt Patterson (columnist for the Washington Post, New York Post and San Francisco Examiner). Thought I would share with this community to get your thoughts. For the record, I think affirmative action is wrong and adds to discrimination by not giving qualified people what they have earned on their own merit.

    August 18, 2011
    Obama: The Affirmative Action President
    By Matt Patterson


    Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job?
    Imagine a future historian examining Obama's pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a "community organizer"; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote "present"); and finally an unaccomplished single term in United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as legislator.
    And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama's "spiritual mentor"; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama's colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?
    Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal:
    To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass.
    Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass -- held to a lower standard -- because of the color of his skin. Podhoretz continues:
    And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) "non-threatening," all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest?
    Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon -- affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.
    Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don't care if these minority students fail; liberals aren't around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist. Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin -- that's affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn't racism, then nothing is. And that is what America did to Obama.
    True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary. What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks?
    In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama's oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people -- conservatives included -- ought now to be deeply embarrassed. The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that's when he has his teleprompter in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth -- it's all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years.
    And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?
    In short: our president is a small and small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office.
    But hey, at least we got to feel good about ourselves for a little while. And really, isn't that all that matters these days?
    See also: The Era of Confronting Obama at Public Events
    Update:
    Author's Note. A lot of readers have written in asking me how I came to the conclusion that Obama was an unremarkable student and that he benefited from affirmative action. Three reasons:
    1) As reported by The New York Sun: "A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors..." In spite of not receiving honors as an undergrad, Obama was nevertheless admitted to Harvard Law. Why?

    2) Obama himself has written he was a poor student as a young man. As the Baltimore Sun reported, in:
    "'Obama's book 'Dreams from My Father,'....the president recalled a time in his life...when he started to drift away from the path of success. 'I had learned not to care,' Obama wrote. '... Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.' But his mother confronted him about his behavior. 'Don't you think you're being a little casual about your future?" she asked him, according to the book. '... One of your friends was just arrested for drug possession. Your grades are slipping. You haven't even started on your college applications.'"
    3) Most damning to me is the president's unwillingness to make his transcripts public. If Obama had really been a stellar student with impeccable grades as an undergrad, is there any doubt they would have been made public by now and trumpeted on the front page of the New York Times as proof of his brilliance? To me it all adds up to affirmative action.


    WOW!!! this guy nailed it in my opinion...but I don't feel any better about myself..I didn't vote for him. :D

    Godfather.