So his plan to save America from this 'culture of poverty' is to rid the school system of the evil unionized janitors, and abolish child labour laws? Even Newt can’t be that deluded can he?
This has got to be just another sad cry for attention from a blatant troll, no? (talking about Newt, honest )
He said he was not advocating revamping child labor laws or suggesting children drop out of school to become janitors. "I'm talking about working 20 hours a week and being empowered to succeed."
So his plan to save America from this 'culture of poverty' is to rid the school system of the evil unionized janitors, and abolish child labour laws? Even Newt can’t be that deluded can he?
This has got to be just another sad cry for attention from a blatant troll, no? (talking about Newt, honest )
He said he was not advocating revamping child labor laws or suggesting children drop out of school to become janitors. "I'm talking about working 20 hours a week and being empowered to succeed."
NEWT
How about letting kids just be kids.....they have alot of years of work in their futures (dealing with all of our fuckups)
I think earning a buck in your youth is important. I mowed enough lawns with a push to save up to buy a rider in 6th grade. That afforded me the opprotunity to increase my yard count and make more...
Important lesson. Work, save, invest, grow. The American Dream.
I'd expect someone who was against Newt to post those excerpts to expose his foolish ideas.
Why not have one master lunch lady too and have the kids prepare food while we are at it? You could probably save money by firing all the elementary teachers and having high school kids teach those classes.
Doesn't his campaign manager have some device to alert him to close this mouth ... oh, that's right, they all quit.
quitting. toow.
And why should only poor kids have to clean the schools?
Seriously, can any Newt supporter answer this? Is there going to be a committee in the schools who decides which kids lack work ethic and which don't?
Where I'm from, the poorer kids are the ones with jobs, and the rich kids are the ones with no work ethic who's parents buy them hummers...
yeah exactly. i believe i am from near where you are from. i had a job outside the home by 10 years of age. at 15 (if not sooner) i was working in a mexican restaurant and on payday i gave mom most of my money. i have a problem with how the wealthy and (wealthy crooked) politicians are in cahoots with one another fucking over common folk and ruining the environment and starting wars.
anyone attracted to these types of characters is out of their damn mind and generally not a friend of mine.
i believe that some here would say that you should have worked 3-5 part time jobs to cover the loss of your professional job such as at burger king or target and then buy your shampoo in bulk and eat kraft dinner every night until you could get a better job ... complaining is not taking responsibility for your life ... :oops:
i'm sorry to hear about your situation - it's probably a common story in a lot of places ...
Actually, I tried applying for part time jobs - they wouldn't hire me because they said that a person with my qualifications would not be happy doing the work and that I would leave as soon as the economy improved. Which, let's face it...was absolutely true.
I know several professional people in Atlanta who have been turned down for jobs at places like Target for this reason...after a 25 year career at IBM that ended with layoff due to offshoring.
I was one of the lucky ones - I was able to get a bit of contract work here and there - which is how I survived for 16 months. But contract work is only a few weeks here and there...with no health insurance or anything like that attached. Finally, my COBRA (which I was paying for myself) from IBM ran out...and I HAD to get a job with some sort of insurance...or risk losing everything I owned should I become ill.
Thus, the 5,000 mile move back to Anchorage.
Fortunately, some old and VERY dear friends of mine up here took me in until I was able to get re-established in Anchorage. If it wasn't for these friends, I never would have been able to move back here to get work - and I'd still be sitting, unemployed, in a house that I can not even sell to save myself, in Atlanta...going through my 401(k) and emailing my resume into black hole after black hole...and calling recruiters every day, begging them to put me in for anything - right on down to an accounts payable clerk....just to get a job. ANY job.
I would not wish what I was going though on ANYONE. And that Newt and his ilk would just blow it off, like we did it to ourselves because we have not taken 'personal responsibility' is one of the most heartlessly reprehensible positions I have ever heard of. Before this recession, I was financially stable with about 35%+ equity in my home, a nice savings account, a 401(k), and little debt (not even a car payment). Now, I have about maxed out the one credit card I had (I didn't like credit cards and kept this one only for emergencies), own a home that I cannot get out of and which it seems I can't even rent out (been trying - so far, no luck. Housing in Atlanta has a 23% vacancy rate), and live in a small apartment, 5,000 miles away from that 3 story home.....all so I could get a job. I'm living on rice, spaghetti, and PB&J, can count on one hand the number of restaurant meals I've had since I got here 7 weeks ago, and only recently 'treated myself' to my first 'fun' purchase in several months....and feel guilty as hell about even that! I had no Christmas in 2010...and will not have one in 2011. There is no money for it. Black Friday, to me, may as well be going on on another planet, it is now such a foreign concept. I barely even remember anymore what it is like to be able to spend money without worrying about every nickle.
If I was not lucky enough to have some old friends here in Alaska who are extremely generous, I would be beyond screwed. Because the cold hard truth is that I am pretty much a refugee, at this point - a refugee with CPA after her name and a long, solid career behind her in the international accounting firms and Fortune 500 companies. A refugee from Newt's former congressional district of Cobb County, Georgia. Where even those who have 'taken personal responsibility' their entire lives and have always lived well within their means are...well...fucked.
Newt is an out-of-touch heartless bastard. Of that much, I am certain.
i believe that some here would say that you should have worked 3-5 part time jobs to cover the loss of your professional job such as at burger king or target and then buy your shampoo in bulk and eat kraft dinner every night until you could get a better job ... complaining is not taking responsibility for your life ... :oops:
i'm sorry to hear about your situation - it's probably a common story in a lot of places ...
Actually, I tried applying for part time jobs - they wouldn't hire me because they said that a person with my qualifications would not be happy doing the work and that I would leave as soon as the economy improved. Which, let's face it...was absolutely true.
I know several professional people in Atlanta who have been turned down for jobs at places like Target for this reason...after a 25 year career at IBM that ended with layoff due to offshoring.
I was one of the lucky ones - I was able to get a bit of contract work here and there - which is how I survived for 16 months. But contract work is only a few weeks here and there...with no health insurance or anything like that attached. Finally, my COBRA (which I was paying for myself) from IBM ran out...and I HAD to get a job with some sort of insurance...or risk losing everything I owned should I become ill.
Thus, the 5,000 mile move back to Anchorage.
Fortunately, some old and VERY dear friends of mine up here took me in until I was able to get re-established in Anchorage. If it wasn't for these friends, I never would have been able to move back here to get work - and I'd still be sitting, unemployed, in a house that I can not even sell to save myself, in Atlanta...going through my 401(k) and emailing my resume into black hole after black hole...and calling recruiters every day, begging them to put me in for anything - right on down to an accounts payable clerk....just to get a job. ANY job.
I would not wish what I was going though on ANYONE. And that Newt and his ilk would just blow it off, like we did it to ourselves because we have not taken 'personal responsibility' is one of the most heartlessly reprehensible positions I have ever heard of. Before this recession, I was financially stable with about 35%+ equity in my home, a nice savings account, a 401(k), and little debt (not even a car payment). Now, I have about maxed out the one credit card I had (I didn't like credit cards and kept this one only for emergencies), own a home that I cannot get out of and which it seems I can't even rent out (been trying - so far, no luck. Housing in Atlanta has a 23% vacancy rate), and live in a small apartment, 5,000 miles away from that 3 story home.....all so I could get a job. I'm living on rice, spaghetti, and PB&J, can count on one hand the number of restaurant meals I've had since I got here 7 weeks ago, and only recently 'treated myself' to my first 'fun' purchase in several months....and feel guilty as hell about even that! I had no Christmas in 2010...and will not have one in 2011. There is no money for it. Black Friday, to me, may as well be going on on another planet, it is now such a foreign concept. I barely even remember anymore what it is like to be able to spend money without worrying about every nickle.
If I was not lucky enough to have some old friends here in Alaska who are extremely generous, I would be beyond screwed. Because the cold hard truth is that I am pretty much a refugee, at this point - a refugee with CPA after her name and a long, solid career behind her in the international accounting firms and Fortune 500 companies. A refugee from Newt's former congressional district of Cobb County, Georgia. Where even those who have 'taken personal responsibility' their entire lives and have always lived well within their means are...well...fucked.
Newt is an out-of-touch heartless bastard. Of that much, I am certain.
thank you for your story. This must be the American Dream that some speak so highly of.
Ok i apologize for calling you a flipper , but i still think Newt is a total fool he has no compassion for the down and out folks in the country at all ........
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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Let's stop wasting time criticizing each other and see what we can do to make sure someone in our community isn't going hungry this week.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
So... we should just let people die of starvation? Are those whom agree with Mr. Gingrich convined that America would become a better place if we were more like Etheopia?
Asked about the role of personal responsibility in society, Gingrich quoted John Smith (of Pocahontas fame): “In 1607 in the first English speaking permanent colony, [Smith said] to the aristocrats who had paid their way and didn’t want to work: ‘If you don’t work, you won’t eat.’”
since the very first time i ever heard newt speak his ideas i wanted to puke and thought to myself, geeze, that guy is a tool and crooked and a fat ass politian and probably a scam artist and a low down two bit thief who somehow got into D.C. and turned two bits into many bits.
btw, did i say i don't trust newt? this guy is about as comical as a piranha frenzy. which you don't have to be a jokester to land my vote for presidency but jesus h. christ can you at least have a pulse and a smile without bullshit written all over it?
btw, who names their child newt? newt sucks as a fucking name. sorry but it does.
NEWT KICKED ASS LAST NIGHT IN THE DEBATE. HE OWNED PAUL, TOWERED OVER PERRY AND CAIN, AND STOOD HIS GROUND W/ ROMNEY.
NEWT IN 2012. Lookin good!
uhhh ... i watched a lot of that debacle they called a "debate" last nite ... newt wasn't even paying attention at some time ... "what was the question?" ... "how much time do i have?" ...
most of his answers were preambles that never really answered the question but that was the case for most of the nominees ...
He said he was not advocating revamping child labor laws or suggesting children drop out of school to become janitors. "I'm talking about working 20 hours a week and being empowered to succeed."
NEWT
umm.....Where are you getting that quote from? It's not in the article you posted. In fact, none of this drivel about putting kids to work is.....How is he not advocating revamping child labor laws? Read:
Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, the Republican presidential candidate and former speaker of the House challenged laws that prevent children from working certain jobs before their mid-teens.
Gingrich blames “the core policies of protecting unionization and bureaucratization" for “crippling” children.
“It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, in child laws, which are truly stupid,” he said
So wtf…. This could not be done without revamping the laws. So he’s either advocating changing the laws, or he's blowing hot air. Either way, it's a completely ridiculous suggestion, and anyone who supports it is a completely ridiculous fool....he's attempting to divide and irritate people just to get attention...(trolling). Sound familiar?
i say instead of not feeding the poor i say we stop feeding trolls.
seriously? newt gingrich has rocketed to the front of the pack?
when this guy's baggage comes out he will be relagated to the rubbish heap of campain 2012...
seriously this campaign is hilarious...
with the way one person jumps out front and gets unceremoniously slapped back down it reminds me of....
I'm sick of hearin people on here call anyone with a differing opinion a TROLL.
Usamamasan isn't a fucking troll- How about disagreeing and providing some evidence of why- instead of name-calling and attacking?
NEWT KICKED ASS LAST NIGHT IN THE DEBATE. HE OWNED PAUL, TOWERED OVER PERRY AND CAIN, AND STOOD HIS GROUND W/ ROMNEY.
NEWT IN 2012. Lookin good!
i am not taking your bait. and i have disagreed at length with newt's policies, and not to mention the thread i started about how he took millions of dollars from freddie mac and is campaigning against that agency now. he is a fucking hypocrite!!
how about when he had a long affair on his wife and then served her divorce papers while she was in the hospital?? quality guy this person is...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
i think newt sunk his chances last night when he said we should be humane and not split up families of illegal immagrants...perry took heat for saying we should pay for their education, now newt says this...i predict that newt's campaign will implode in a matter of days...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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I do not appreciate the personal attack. You have been reported.
after i just called you special?
:roll:
He said he was not advocating revamping child labor laws or suggesting children drop out of school to become janitors. "I'm talking about working 20 hours a week and being empowered to succeed."
NEWT
How long do they last? And thanks but I had mine awhile ago, hope you have a good one though
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
How about letting kids just be kids.....they have alot of years of work in their futures (dealing with all of our fuckups)
Depends on the offense i beleive, 3 to 60 days, but some get life time bans, never use the C-word that's a Cardinal Sin.
I think earning a buck in your youth is important. I mowed enough lawns with a push to save up to buy a rider in 6th grade. That afforded me the opprotunity to increase my yard count and make more...
Important lesson. Work, save, invest, grow. The American Dream.
anyone attracted to these types of characters is out of their damn mind and generally not a friend of mine.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
thanks for the tip
Actually, I tried applying for part time jobs - they wouldn't hire me because they said that a person with my qualifications would not be happy doing the work and that I would leave as soon as the economy improved. Which, let's face it...was absolutely true.
I know several professional people in Atlanta who have been turned down for jobs at places like Target for this reason...after a 25 year career at IBM that ended with layoff due to offshoring.
I was one of the lucky ones - I was able to get a bit of contract work here and there - which is how I survived for 16 months. But contract work is only a few weeks here and there...with no health insurance or anything like that attached. Finally, my COBRA (which I was paying for myself) from IBM ran out...and I HAD to get a job with some sort of insurance...or risk losing everything I owned should I become ill.
Thus, the 5,000 mile move back to Anchorage.
Fortunately, some old and VERY dear friends of mine up here took me in until I was able to get re-established in Anchorage. If it wasn't for these friends, I never would have been able to move back here to get work - and I'd still be sitting, unemployed, in a house that I can not even sell to save myself, in Atlanta...going through my 401(k) and emailing my resume into black hole after black hole...and calling recruiters every day, begging them to put me in for anything - right on down to an accounts payable clerk....just to get a job. ANY job.
I would not wish what I was going though on ANYONE. And that Newt and his ilk would just blow it off, like we did it to ourselves because we have not taken 'personal responsibility' is one of the most heartlessly reprehensible positions I have ever heard of. Before this recession, I was financially stable with about 35%+ equity in my home, a nice savings account, a 401(k), and little debt (not even a car payment). Now, I have about maxed out the one credit card I had (I didn't like credit cards and kept this one only for emergencies), own a home that I cannot get out of and which it seems I can't even rent out (been trying - so far, no luck. Housing in Atlanta has a 23% vacancy rate), and live in a small apartment, 5,000 miles away from that 3 story home.....all so I could get a job. I'm living on rice, spaghetti, and PB&J, can count on one hand the number of restaurant meals I've had since I got here 7 weeks ago, and only recently 'treated myself' to my first 'fun' purchase in several months....and feel guilty as hell about even that! I had no Christmas in 2010...and will not have one in 2011. There is no money for it. Black Friday, to me, may as well be going on on another planet, it is now such a foreign concept. I barely even remember anymore what it is like to be able to spend money without worrying about every nickle.
If I was not lucky enough to have some old friends here in Alaska who are extremely generous, I would be beyond screwed. Because the cold hard truth is that I am pretty much a refugee, at this point - a refugee with CPA after her name and a long, solid career behind her in the international accounting firms and Fortune 500 companies. A refugee from Newt's former congressional district of Cobb County, Georgia. Where even those who have 'taken personal responsibility' their entire lives and have always lived well within their means are...well...fucked.
Newt is an out-of-touch heartless bastard. Of that much, I am certain.
amazing...
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
thank you for your story. This must be the American Dream that some speak so highly of.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Be part of the solution folks.
Peace.
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Asked about the role of personal responsibility in society, Gingrich quoted John Smith (of Pocahontas fame): “In 1607 in the first English speaking permanent colony, [Smith said] to the aristocrats who had paid their way and didn’t want to work: ‘If you don’t work, you won’t eat.’”
What do you propose?
seriously? newt gingrich has rocketed to the front of the pack?
when this guy's baggage comes out he will be relagated to the rubbish heap of campain 2012...
seriously this campaign is hilarious...
with the way one person jumps out front and gets unceremoniously slapped back down it reminds me of....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
btw, did i say i don't trust newt? this guy is about as comical as a piranha frenzy. which you don't have to be a jokester to land my vote for presidency but jesus h. christ can you at least have a pulse and a smile without bullshit written all over it?
btw, who names their child newt? newt sucks as a fucking name. sorry but it does.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I'm sick of hearin people on here call anyone with a differing opinion a TROLL.
Usamamasan isn't a fucking troll- How about disagreeing and providing some evidence of why- instead of name-calling and attacking?
NEWT KICKED ASS LAST NIGHT IN THE DEBATE. HE OWNED PAUL, TOWERED OVER PERRY AND CAIN, AND STOOD HIS GROUND W/ ROMNEY.
NEWT IN 2012. Lookin good!
uhhh ... i watched a lot of that debacle they called a "debate" last nite ... newt wasn't even paying attention at some time ... "what was the question?" ... "how much time do i have?" ...
most of his answers were preambles that never really answered the question but that was the case for most of the nominees ...
Speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, the Republican presidential candidate and former speaker of the House challenged laws that prevent children from working certain jobs before their mid-teens.
Gingrich blames “the core policies of protecting unionization and bureaucratization" for “crippling” children.
“It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, in child laws, which are truly stupid,” he said
So wtf…. This could not be done without revamping the laws. So he’s either advocating changing the laws, or he's blowing hot air. Either way, it's a completely ridiculous suggestion, and anyone who supports it is a completely ridiculous fool....he's attempting to divide and irritate people just to get attention...(trolling). Sound familiar?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
how about when he had a long affair on his wife and then served her divorce papers while she was in the hospital?? quality guy this person is...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
safe to say that none of the GOP nominees would do much for the environment ...