WE'RE LOSING EDDIE'S VOICE TO NEW THEATRICS AND CIGARETTES

peacefrompaul

Kimba wrote:

Eddie is the best lead vocalist of any current band. Seriously. He's a craftsman. He CAN authentically Sing. Incomparable. Who else can do what he does?

Maynard James Keenan

Kimba

Maynard's been making wine (and documentaries about making wine) but have Tool or Perfect Circle even performed in the last 4 years?

peacefrompaul

Kimba wrote:

Maynard's been making wine (and documentaries about making wine) but have Tool or Perfect Circle even performed in the last 4 years?

Yes and yes

vital5

esacks23 wrote:

not sure what's up with these new random, meaningless, and awkward hand motions that eddie's started doing over the last couple years, but it bugs!!! this crap of him raising his hand high or low depending on the note he's singing or rolling his arms backwards and forwards as if he's a drunk referee calling traveling is annoying. i wish he'd just sing the song even as close to the quality as he once did without all these extra, pointless theatrics. i feel like he's up there acting. he used to feel the music and react subconsciously, not it's all for show. it used to be all about the music and his voice. Now that his voice is hardly what it once was due to cigarettes and odd adopted singing styles(his creepy, raspy, whisper voice for example... just awful and doesn't sound good if you think it does, in case you're reading this ed... you'd think someone around you would tell you, but you'd also think they wouldn't have to), he relies on all this extracurricular theatric crap. don't get me wrong, it's fun to watch the guys run and jump around on stage, that's half the fun of one of their shows, but if ed sounds like crap in the process, it's all for nothing. maybe less stage antics, catch your breath, cut back on the smokes and remind us once again of the voice that brought us all here. just sing. and take my mind off of the money making machine that has become pearl jam. still, looking forward to the next tour and album. hopefully he won't preface every vowel with an H.

Eddie's voice is Limited Edition...

IgotshitID

Eddie still sounds great live

pandora

Maybe it is me,
maybe it is that appreciation and love grow stronger over the years
because damn!

Eddie sounds better each time I hear him!

tremors

Kimba wrote:

Eddie is the best lead vocalist of any current band. Seriously. He's a craftsman. He CAN authentically Sing. Incomparable. Who else can do what he does?

I do believe this actually - and it's the main reason I come to this forum.

pandora wrote:

Maybe it is me,
maybe it is that appreciation and love grow stronger over the years
because damn!

Eddie sounds better each time I hear him!

I am not one of those people who think Eddie's singing has deteriorated over time - sure he's never gonna be able to do all the operatics he used to, but personally I think he's a better singer. For me he's the best vocalist alive today, with Van Morrison a close second. Eddie's voice in his solo shows is world beating, it really is - I think his voice currently is not so suited to pounding out the Pearl Jam catalogue in the same way - and live he sings those songs with more of a punk edge these days - which still does it for me. I think the range of emotions he can conjure up with his singing - is as good as it ever was - some of the 2010 bootlegs - Cleveland, MSG - they're up their with Pearl Jam's best shows imo. Eddie is doing pretty good in my book.

boyo79

Crazy thread. As for the cigarettes, the guy is what nearly 47? While it may not be your choice to smoke, Ed chooses to smoke and that is his choice. Let's leave it at that.

YLed2

EV = ALWAYS on point.

Nuff said.

Ricsard

Ed can do whatever he wants! And he doesn't really disappoint us.

Foriamluke

Ya know, I have been a Pearl Jam fan for years! (I finally just joined now as I was finally able to get a credit card, lol) anyways, how many of us can say that Eddie goes out there every single show, and gives it his all? How many of us can say that Eddie is (in my opinion the best) one of the best vocalists out there today, and puts on one hell of a show? So, to me why is this topic even up or even in debate at all? (I respect our right to debate, however this overall topic seems a bit harsh)

The man is a beast. Eddie (and the band) have given us many amazing years, and we all have many amazing years yet to come from them! I believe they deserve the ut-most respect.

To me this whole topic seems a bit disrespectful. (We are all entitled to our opinion, and this is mine. Kudos to those who have actually stood up for Ed) As I know if I were in a big band and did my best every single show, only to hear some fans put me down regardless of how awesome I am I would be offended.

Leave Eddie be, he drinks, he smokes, and he sounds unbelievable!

cowboypjfan

Snoopy Died For Our Sins wrote:

I just wish he'd quite 'Springsteening" his t-shirt sleeves

Yeah, that is just not cool and something I never see anymore. Doesn't his model wife teach him anything about fashion and trends?

Anyway, I don't see the point to this thread. I am just fine with how Ed conducts his emotions on stage. He's still got it!

bootlegger10

Kimba wrote:

Eddie is the best lead vocalist of any current band. Seriously. He's a craftsman. He CAN authentically Sing. Incomparable. Who else can do what he does?

There are certainly better singers out there (Glen Hansard being one), but I prefer Eddie's vocals. What he does in Pearl Jam with songwriting, lyrics and vision is just amazing. I think PJ has somewhat lost their edge over the last few records though. The records are good, but lack some of the charm of Vitalogy, No Code and Yield (even Binaural).

I think the Foo Fighters really brought it with their last record and I hope PJ does the same with their next record.

DewieCox

bootlegger10 wrote:

Kimba wrote:

Eddie is the best lead vocalist of any current band. Seriously. He's a craftsman. He CAN authentically Sing. Incomparable. Who else can do what he does?

There are certainly better singers out there (Glen Hansard being one), but I prefer Eddie's vocals. What he does in Pearl Jam with songwriting, lyrics and vision is just amazing. I think PJ has somewhat lost their edge over the last few records though. The records are good, but lack some of the charm of Vitalogy, No Code and Yield (even Binaural).

I think the Foo Fighters really brought it with their last record and I hope PJ does the same with their next record.

The Foo Fighters have been making the same record for 10 years. As long as PJ doesn't make another Backspacer it'll surely be better than almost anything the Foo's have done. I don't think PJ needs to write an album where the only good songs are the "hits".

Yarden

The hand thing is great - it's Eddie!
but i do wish he wouldn't smoke. no. 1 reason for his health. no.2 his voice.
but he still sounds great. not many singers sound like that at his age. again - it's Eddie!

fisttothejaw

esacks23 wrote:

not sure what's up with these new random, meaningless, and awkward hand motions that eddie's started doing over the last couple years, but it bugs!!! this crap of him raising his hand high or low depending on the note he's singing or rolling his arms backwards and forwards as if he's a drunk referee calling traveling is annoying. i wish he'd just sing the song even as close to the quality as he once did without all these extra, pointless theatrics. i feel like he's up there acting. he used to feel the music and react subconsciously, not it's all for show. it used to be all about the music and his voice. Now that his voice is hardly what it once was due to cigarettes and odd adopted singing styles(his creepy, raspy, whisper voice for example... just awful and doesn't sound good if you think it does, in case you're reading this ed... you'd think someone around you would tell you, but you'd also think they wouldn't have to), he relies on all this extracurricular theatric crap. don't get me wrong, it's fun to watch the guys run and jump around on stage, that's half the fun of one of their shows, but if ed sounds like crap in the process, it's all for nothing. maybe less stage antics, catch your breath, cut back on the smokes and remind us once again of the voice that brought us all here. just sing. and take my mind off of the money making machine that has become pearl jam. still, looking forward to the next tour and album. hopefully he won't preface every vowel with an H.

dumb.

fisttothejaw

NC168476 wrote:

Wow! I love when he does that with his hands. It shows how into the moment he his - his whole body involved in the music and lyrics. I don't think he uses his hands as a pitch guide! As for the smoking. Smoke em if you got em! Just makes him sound deeper, huskier, wearier, more travelled and more like an old blues man. I don't think we should want him to sound like one of the Bee Gees!

You know what's funny about this? Barry Gibb is a chain smoker... who'da thunk it?

dasvidana

tremors wrote:

For me he's the best vocalist alive today, with Van Morrison a close second.

Agreed. Glad to see props to Van!

YLed2

dasvidana wrote:

tremors wrote:

For me he's the best vocalist alive today, with Van Morrison a close second.

Agreed. Glad to see props to Van!

+1

JMcDowell3636

Eddies voice isn't what it was in 1993. Its not as deep. Its different but still as good. I don't give a shit what he does with his hands. I think when he dances or makes hand motions is because he is truly feeling the music and that is a good thing because it shows that he still has a passion for the music and the band and that he still wants to do this. If he was just going up there and going through the motions then we would have a problem because it would show that he is losing his passion and it could be the end of the band(i don't think this will ever happen personally). The cigarettes i don't like because i think it will eventually kill him. I think he should stop for personal reasons but if he doesn't it is his choice and as fans we should be fine with it. KEEP ROCKING EV AND THE REST OF PJ

rizzdaddy

I have Backspacer on Rockband, it's hard to sing alot of the songs I can see why he uses the hand motions it makes it easier to keep the beat and hit the notes.

dtnmusic

This thread sucks. Go see some other bands, and see how they compare. 20 years in, a seriously diverse catalogue, and a crazy new setlist every night! This rant is bullshit, he deserves 100% respect, and trust me, all he feels is the music and the fans

Ledbetterman10

He still sounds good after 20 years. In fact, at times he sounds better now than ever. Go back and listen to some of those shows from 1992 and his voice was so deep that I can see why people compared Scott Stapp to him.

High Fidelity 2000

Not sure about the theatrics (haven't been to enough shows the past 5 years to judge), but you are 100% correct about the voice/cigs, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. How many times have people here said "You're wrong, if anything his voice is BETTER than it used to be. He sings stronger than ever." They are obviously not musicians or vocalists. :roll:

Just listen to bootlegs from 2008 on and then 2000 or 2003... there is an obvious, huge difference. Ed always sounds out of breath, and yes, throwing an H sound into the middle or beginning of words, which I don't know if it's purposeful or he just can't do it any other way now. Red Mosquito is not a hard song to sing, but god it sure sounds like it is the past couple years... Not to mention all the half-step tune-downs they're doing now.

For anyone who says let him do what he wants, etc... there will not be a Pearl Jam in ten more years if he keeps it up. Maybe you would suggest Mike, Stone & Jeff start sparring with brick walls, punching with their left hand... :roll:

Suziemay

bsbplyr wrote:

Eddies voice isn't what it was in 1993. Its not as deep. Its different but still as good. I don't give a shit what he does with his hands. I think when he dances or makes hand motions is because he is truly feeling the music and that is a good thing because it shows that he still has a passion for the music and the band and that he still wants to do this. If he was just going up there and going through the motions then we would have a problem because it would show that he is losing his passion and it could be the end of the band(i don't think this will ever happen personally). The cigarettes i don't like because i think it will eventually kill him. I think he should stop for personal reasons but if he doesn't it is his choice and as fans we should be fine with it. KEEP ROCKING EV AND THE REST OF PJ

Everything he said.

Katyz

I know that twenty-something Eddie sounded amazing, gave it is all, cried with emotion and raised the roof with his antics...but...I actually prefer him now...hearing him live, the voice is has a quality to it that went into my very soul. I don't feel Backspacer showcased his voice well, still love the album, but in general, I feel Ed is Ed NOW and I love hearing him live (haven't done much of that but hope to make up for lost time). Funnily enough seeing PJ20 in PBS yesterday actually solidified my feelings about old vs new Ed. I'd love to travel back in time and experience those early gigs just for the sheer joy of it, but I would rather see PJ now as they are...older, wiser, and totally themselves. I do get the give up the ciggs idea, however!

The_Giant_Midget

i think he should lay off the smokes. still amazes me how people on this site bash those who say that. the op is allowed an opinion just as much as you are.

rollings

Mikee J wrote:

:shock:

:shock: :shock:

what I want is more pantemime.

YEAH, and it would be nice to see him starting to roll his eyes back into his head like the good ole days.
and more gyrations, where DID all the gyrating go, people?

And if he could only hang more from the rafters like a bat again, that would be really really great, BUT NOT FOR SHOW, just cause he's Ed,
That's the only reason I would want him to do that.

I would also request that he try to spin around a little bit more from time to time,

OR...

YMCA more of the songs, please Ed.

Also if Ed could imitate Olivia Newton John just a little bit more, that would be so nice.

That would be perfect. But I would especially want him to do this because he wants to , not that I asked or anything, ya know.

Thank you, Ed, thank you.

betterman4ed

Of course aging also plays a part in Eddie's singing but I agree 100% about the cigarettes negatively impacting the vocals. I really don't think that people who say his voice is the same (even better some say) as before are being honest. PJ is my favorite band, and I have my biases in my support for them, but open your eyes!! His range is seriously limited when it comes to hitting the high notes. Think 'The End," and 'Just Breathe.' I wish I could hear the old E sing those songs. They are masterpieces. That goes for many of the songs off the latest album, which if sung by old Eddy would probably come close to being as good as the stuff from the early 90's. Gonna See my friend=go, got some=save you. that said, I really think that Eddy has his good days and bad days. In the 2009 Pennsylvania 4 concert series, his voice sounds like 2000. And yet, just half a month before those dates he was on a pretty mediocre stretch.

Also, this isn't to say that PJ isn't allowed to make a few bad songs here and there, but OLE performance was pretty shameful.

rockpants

This inspired me to watch the Even Flow video and count all instances of "theatrics", voracious headbanging not included. My intensive, scientific study discovered 17 distinct motions. Also of note, Stone was spotted looking like he was talking to no one in particular in about 97% of his total screen time.