Tebow

Wobbie

The Juggler wrote:

really? you'd rather have aaron rogers than tim tebow? i'd rather have about 20 other qb's than tim tebow. that wasn't the point. that wasn't the point by the widest of margins. :?

what he's done in the 4th quarters of these games as opposed to the other 3 quarters is really fucking impressive anyway you look at it.

and the reason that reciever was so open was because tebow did a great job of extending that play to allow him time to get so open. being aware of where the line of scrimmage was while scrambling was impressive too. i've seen plenty of qb's toss it over the line or just take off and run, as he could have done there.


the point of all this is just to sit back, relax, and enjoy this story that's been playing out. don't question it. don't you EVER question tim tebow! :x :x :x

are you the same guy who used to get on the giants guy for excessive use of emoticons?

The Juggler

imalive wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

really? you'd rather have aaron rogers than tim tebow? i'd rather have about 20 other qb's than tim tebow. that wasn't the point. that wasn't the point by the widest of margins. :?

what he's done in the 4th quarters of these games as opposed to the other 3 quarters is really fucking impressive anyway you look at it.

and the reason that reciever was so open was because tebow did a great job of extending that play to allow him time to get so open. being aware of where the line of scrimmage was while scrambling was impressive too. i've seen plenty of qb's toss it over the line or just take off and run, as he could have done there.


the point of all this is just to sit back, relax, and enjoy this story that's been playing out. don't question it. don't you EVER question tim tebow! :x :x :x

are you the same guy who used to get on the giants guy for excessive use of emoticons?

fair point. tim tebow just brings out all of my emoticons. :x

Wobbie

The Juggler wrote:

fair point. tim tebow just brings out all of my emoticons. :x

tebow changes everything

SatansFuton

The Juggler wrote:

really? you'd rather have aaron rogers than tim tebow? i'd rather have about 20 other qb's than tim tebow. that wasn't the point. that wasn't the point by the widest of margins. :?

My point was that if he weren't so awful the first 3 quarters of the game he wouldn't HAVE to be so good in the 4th. And his "amazing" 4th quarter QB Rating isn't as good as Rodgers QB Rating for entire games. And Tebow is 3rd in 4th quarter QB ratings behind Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers. As an Eagles fan I doubt you're willing to call Eli amazing for his 117.0 QB rating in the 4th quarter. Eli has led some amazing comebacks also, he just doesn't get as much attention because the media hasn't latched onto him the same way as Tebow. And Eli is doing it with one of the worst defenses I have seen in my life. Having said that, I think Eli is a complete tool.

I'm just saying I'd rather have a quarterback who doesn't stink for 3/4 of the game, no matter how good he is in that final 1/4. And if the Broncos defense weren't playing so well and holding teams to 10-13 points for the whole game, it wouldn't matter what Tebow does in the 4th quarter, it would be out of reach. Tebow has the luxury of being able to suck for 3 quarters while the defense keeps them in the game, then Tebow can put together a drive and win the game.

I don't have anything against what the Broncos have done, but it is the BRONCOS, and not so much Tebow, although he is a part of it.

Wobbie

SatansFuton wrote:

I don't have anything against what the Broncos have done, but it is the BRONCOS, and not so much Tebow, although he is a part of it.

and just so you know....I only post here because this whole "Tebowmania" strikes me as funny.

on ESPN, it is never fucking ending :shock:

The Juggler

SatansFuton wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

really? you'd rather have aaron rogers than tim tebow? i'd rather have about 20 other qb's than tim tebow. that wasn't the point. that wasn't the point by the widest of margins. :?

My point was that if he weren't so awful the first 3 quarters of the game he wouldn't HAVE to be so good in the 4th. And his "amazing" 4th quarter QB Rating isn't as good as Rodgers QB Rating for entire games. And Tebow is 3rd in 4th quarter QB ratings behind Eli Manning and Aaron Rodgers. As an Eagles fan I doubt you're willing to call Eli amazing for his 117.0 QB rating in the 4th quarter. Eli has led some amazing comebacks also, he just doesn't get as much attention because the media hasn't latched onto him the same way as Tebow. And Eli is doing it with one of the worst defenses I have seen in my life. Having said that, I think Eli is a complete tool.

I'm just saying I'd rather have a quarterback who doesn't stink for 3/4 of the game, no matter how good he is in that final 1/4. And if the Broncos defense weren't playing so well and holding teams to 10-13 points for the whole game, it wouldn't matter what Tebow does in the 4th quarter, it would be out of reach. Tebow has the luxury of being able to suck for 3 quarters while the defense keeps them in the game, then Tebow can put together a drive and win the game.

I don't have anything against what the Broncos have done, but it is the BRONCOS, and not so much Tebow, although he is a part of it.

the fact that he is so awful in the first 3 quarters makes what he's doing in the 4th quarter so amazing dude. the fact that he's even in the same realm of 4th quarter passer ratings with rogers is incredible...and hillarious at the same time. just enjoy it.

and as an eagles fan, yeah i can tell you that eli manning has been fucking great in the 4th quarter. why would i doubt that? :? unfortunately i've seen that first hand multiple times. i don't like him, but he's having a career year. yes, obviously he is a tool.

just enjoy this man. no need to try and read into it and over analyze it. tebow's not a good qb by any stretch of the imagination. this whole thing is just pretty fun to watch play out.

i'm with imalive--"tebowmania" is both hillarious and intriguing at the same time. it's funny shit.



we have a guy at work who has been pretty bad all year long and is now killing it in december. nobody can explain it. hes' the same guy that's been a so-so loan officer for the last few years. suddenly he's blowing everyone away in the last month of the year. we now call him, simply, "tebow."

SatansFuton

Well my point is that I am enjoying... THE BRONCOS. Not the lazy narrative ESPN has created. It's like Mike Tirico said to Gruden the other night on Monday Night Football when Gruden started exaggerating what Tebow has done and falsified the numbers, then Tirico called him on it and jokingly said he was sorry for "letting the facts get in the way of a good story". Tebowmania has taken on a life of its own, and as Tebow himself has fruitlessly attempted to tell the media, it's a team sport and the Defense should get as much credit as him. I would say even more, but that's just me. I think what the team has done is great, but nobody is talking about the Broncos, it's simply Tebow.

As for the Eli thing, I was simply pointing out I don't see people (not necessarily just you) doting on him in spite of the fact his 4th quarter QB rating is higher than Tebow's. He's not a good story. I'm somewhat impressed with what Tebow has done, but I'm realistic about it. And I'm more impressed with the Broncos Defense. And I think the biggest story in the NFL is what the Houston Texans are doing with a third string quarterback. But it's funny, because on ESPN they keep dismissing that story by talking about how the Texans defense are keeping the ball rolling, but when they talk about Denver, in which the exact same thing is happening, then it's all Tebow.

Wobbie

The Juggler wrote:

we have a guy at work who has been pretty bad all year long and is now killing it in december. nobody can explain it. hes' the same guy that's been a so-so loan officer for the last few years. suddenly he's blowing everyone away in the last month of the year. we now call him, simply, "tebow."

I like it...a new nickname for anyone with an unexplained ascension from the mean :thumbup:

could probably be used as an adjective or verb also :think:

The Juggler

SatansFuton wrote:

Well my point is that I am enjoying... THE BRONCOS. Not the lazy narrative ESPN has created. It's like Mike Tirico said to Gruden the other night on Monday Night Football when Gruden started exaggerating what Tebow has done and falsified the numbers, then Tirico called him on it and jokingly said he was sorry for "letting the facts get in the way of a good story". Tebowmania has taken on a life of its own, and as Tebow himself has fruitlessly attempted to tell the media, it's a team sport and the Defense should get as much credit as him. I would say even more, but that's just me. I think what the team has done is great, but nobody is talking about the Broncos, it's simply Tebow.

As for the Eli thing, I was simply pointing out I don't see people (not necessarily just you) doting on him in spite of the fact his 4th quarter QB rating is higher than Tebow's. He's not a good story. I'm somewhat impressed with what Tebow has done, but I'm realistic about it. And I'm more impressed with the Broncos Defense. And I think the biggest story in the NFL is what the Houston Texans are doing with a third string quarterback. But it's funny, because on ESPN they keep dismissing that story by talking about how the Texans defense are keeping the ball rolling, but when they talk about Denver, in which the exact same thing is happening, then it's all Tebow.

i totally get what you're saying. but you have to have a sense of humor about it man.

i think this whole thing is hillarious...however i also think his performances in the 4th verses his awfulness in the 1st 3 quarters is pretty fucking incredible.

and i really like the denver defense too. b dawk is flying all over the place like it's 7 years ago. von miller's a beast too.

SatansFuton

The Juggler wrote:

i totally get what you're saying. but you have to have a sense of humor about it man.

Well I did have a sense of humor about it, but ESPN has just run this thing into the ground. I can't even watch SportsCenter to catch scores or hear any sports news, because it's the Tim Tebow Show now. They would rather talk about what Tebow had for breakfast than any other actual sports news. And any football game you watch, chances are the announcers will talk about him ad nauseum, even if he's not playing in the game. It's over-saturation, which annoys me, no matter who it is about. The good thing is that it is taking a lot of media pressure off of my Packers, because with all the Tebow news they're practically flying under the radar now with their unbeaten streak. Although I hope they lose a game and can just focus on winning the Super Bowl, because the Tebow attention will die down eventually and the focus will shift back to the Packers, which I would find annoying too. In this age of 24 hours sports coverage, ESPN has become much like the 24 hour news cycle, they will find SOMETHING to run into the ground. This Tebow thing has just taken over a bit more than usual though.

The Juggler

SatansFuton wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

i totally get what you're saying. but you have to have a sense of humor about it man.

Well I did have a sense of humor about it, but ESPN has just run this thing into the ground. I can't even watch SportsCenter to catch scores or hear any sports news, because it's the Tim Tebow Show now. They would rather talk about what Tebow had for breakfast than any other actual sports news. And any football game you watch, chances are the announcers will talk about him ad nauseum, even if he's not playing in the game. It's over-saturation, which annoys me, no matter who it is about. The good thing is that it is taking a lot of media pressure off of my Packers, because with all the Tebow news they're practically flying under the radar now with their unbeaten streak. Although I hope they lose a game and can just focus on winning the Super Bowl, because the Tebow attention will die down eventually and the focus will shift back to the Packers, which I would find annoying too. In this age of 24 hours sports coverage, ESPN has become much like the 24 hour news cycle, they will find SOMETHING to run into the ground. This Tebow thing has just taken over a bit more than usual though.

don't watch espn.

...and try condensing your posts....i don't have time to read all of them at work

SatansFuton

Then don't read my posts.

But as far as ESPN goes, I have pretty much stopped watching, but there isn't really any good sports alternatives. I still watch Around The Horn and Pardon The Interruption, as they mainly just have one Tebow segment. But am I also supposed to stop watching football games on account of the commentators fawning over Tebow? I would say a better solution is for them to calm down and put away their Tebow boners, or Tebowners as I call them. It's a story, but not the only story. But like I said, if it weren't Tebow it would probably be something else, likely the Packers.

Edit: I'm putting a copyright on "Tebowners".

CServant

The next "Tebow Fad!"

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Mamasan23

SatansFuton wrote:

Well I did have a sense of humor about it, but ESPN has just run this thing into the ground. I can't even watch SportsCenter to catch scores or hear any sports news, because it's the Tim Tebow Show now. They would rather talk about what Tebow had for breakfast than any other actual sports news. And any football game you watch, chances are the announcers will talk about him ad nauseum, even if he's not playing in the game. It's over-saturation, which annoys me, no matter who it is about. The good thing is that it is taking a lot of media pressure off of my Packers, because with all the Tebow news they're practically flying under the radar now with their unbeaten streak. Although I hope they lose a game and can just focus on winning the Super Bowl, because the Tebow attention will die down eventually and the focus will shift back to the Packers, which I would find annoying too. In this age of 24 hours sports coverage, ESPN has become much like the 24 hour news cycle, they will find SOMETHING to run into the ground. This Tebow thing has just taken over a bit more than usual though.

Great post, I couldn't agree with you more! Just had a similar convo with my hubby last night. The Packers excel when they're under the radar. Remember when the Pats were at this stage and it was all 'Path to Perfection' everywhere? I'm truly happy that the Packers don't have to deal with that drama. Also, I feel like since Favre is gone, the media was desperate for their new sensation...thanks Tebow!

Indifference71

SatansFuton wrote:

Then don't read my posts.

But as far as ESPN goes, I have pretty much stopped watching, but there isn't really any good sports alternatives. I still watch Around The Horn and Pardon The Interruption, as they mainly just have one Tebow segment. But am I also supposed to stop watching football games on account of the commentators fawning over Tebow? I would say a better solution is for them to calm down and put away their Tebow boners, or Tebowners as I call them. It's a story, but not the only story. But like I said, if it weren't Tebow it would probably be something else, likely the Packers.

Edit: I'm putting a copyright on "Tebowners".

PTI and acutal games is about all I can handle from ESPN anymore.

The Tebow shit will go away soon. It has to. The Broncos should have lost to the Bears at home w/ a back up QB and RB going for the Bears last week. Everyone is blowing Tebow after the game, but Marion Barber is the one who gave the game away. I was there for the game....walking out of that stadium after that awful Bears loss w/ everyone chanting "Tebow, Tebow" had to be 10 of the worst minutes of my life. I had a dream about it the other night...no joke.

MayDay10

Mamasan23 wrote:

I feel like since Vick is gone, the media was desperate for their new sensation...thanks Tebow!

SatansFuton

Indifference71 wrote:

PTI and acutal games is about all I can handle from ESPN anymore.

I think that as soon as I saw Rachel Nichols camped out on Brett Favre's lawn during one of his off-seasons of indecision (aka ESPN's Brett Favre Speculation-athon) and her reporting on every single person that came and went from his house, I realized ESPN was going down the shitter.

As Mamasan said, Tebow is just something for them to latch onto and run into the ground in a world without Favre. ESPN without Favre is like Laverne without Shirley, they're lost. They even had to make up the stupid story about Favre going to the Bears a few weeks ago just so they could talk about Favre again.

ESPN used to be just about reporting on the world of sports (although in an often humorous and fun manner) but in recent years has really gone down the road of sensationalist journalism. Especially since they have taken on Monday Night Football. In another thread somebody said it was a natural transition and was bound to happen, and that may be so, I don't like it though. It gets a little bit dumber every year.

MayDay10

Not including college football, I have probably watched about 10 hours of ESPN in the past 5 years.

its very liberating.

Still tough to avoid the phony Tebow stuff though

eeriepadave

N.Y. teens suspended for Tebowing in school hallway

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog ... ool-wp9989

FenwayFaithful

Tebow's gonna have a big game but nobody out-Bradys Brady in the 4th quarter. 49-41 Pats.