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Bant

Empty Glass wrote:

The one problem I did have with this however, and remember I had no interest, was the heads up on Facebook. We're all members to this site and we pay for it. We're all not on Facebook. Why should they get a heads up? Board rules say no cliques, but being "Friends" with Santos on Facebook seems to be a clique to me.

You have identified a MAJOR problem with the way things are being done at the 10C, sadly, it will never be addressed.

Lukin19

pjfan31 wrote:

I will probably get flamed here, but here goes.

Sure there are some noble people who bought a 2nd copy for someone else, to you guys I feel sorry...

But you gotta ask why would most people buy more than one? To give it to their mum, dad, sister brother and dog for Xmas? No way
The majority of people who bought multiples (and again, I feel sorry for people who did by an extra for a friend) will flip them... I think changing the conditions of post-sale sucks, but at the end of the day, limiting it to one per customer was the right thing to do....

10c were probably faced with multiple flipping fucks ordering several copies. They had to draw the line somewhere.

Exactly!

GR8Dane

Geez... nobody is happy to get one? I think we were pretty damn lucky to even see these white vinyls, and for only 25 bucks?

Ten Club does something great for the members, and gets shit on like this? You people dont know how spoiled you are. Be happy you can afford stuff like this. There is so much more in the world to worry about, rather then getting one, or two albums.

SENROCK

Sawyer wrote:

....what you said earlier in regards to white vinyl...seems a bit contradictory.

i HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE the single question mark and want to puke on your thread title. HOWEVER, i was out on an adventure with my patagonia/pj20 so i missed what was said in regards to the white vinyl. fill me in please?????? thank you.

Tone

SENROCK wrote:

Sawyer wrote:

....what you said earlier in regards to white vinyl...seems a bit contradictory.

i HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE the single question mark and want to puke on your thread title. HOWEVER, i was out on an adventure with my patagonia/pj20 so i missed what was said in regards to the white vinyl. fill me in please?????? thank you.

Sen there are a bunch of threads about it scattered down the front page... now about you Crashifying my Vancouver t-shirt...

springsteenfan

go have sex with a real, honest to god, no foolin' woman then 10 club orders won't be such a big deal.

SENROCK

Tone wrote:

SENROCK wrote:

Sawyer wrote:

....what you said earlier in regards to white vinyl...seems a bit contradictory.

i HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE the single question mark and want to puke on your thread title. HOWEVER, i was out on an adventure with my patagonia/pj20 so i missed what was said in regards to the white vinyl. fill me in please?????? thank you.

Sen there are a bunch of threads about it scattered down the front page... now about you Crashifying my Vancouver t-shirt...

yes! lets do it!

Released1980

Empty Glass wrote:

One per customer, now and into the future is the right thing to do. I have no answer for this situation, I didn't follow what happened. I didn't want Backspacer on black vinyl so a color change didn't change my mind.

The one problem I did have with this however, and remember I had no interest, was the heads up on Facebook. We're all members to this site and we pay for it. We're all not on Facebook. Why should they get a heads up? Board rules say no cliques, but being "Friends" with Santos on Facebook seems to be a clique to me.

But really it doesn't matter. As people have said before, they can't please everyone. I love all the 10c does for us and really do feel bad when shit happens. I hope this all works out for everyone.

I mentioned the Facebook update somewhere, don't think it was this thread, but thread titles change now all of a sudden so I don't know. Anyhow, Im friends with santos on Facebook and didn't notice an update from him, got my update from demi( thank you friend) and immediately went to goods and purchased 1. Easy peasy lemon squeezey. Never even entered my mind to buy two, I was so psyched it was available again! Now jackasses are complaining on the board that you couldn't get your 2-25 white vinyl. You are all scheming effin flippers and you know it. If you are a real collector you, and have been waiting for this to POP up like it did, you would be happy with your 1 copy....my two cents...

dimitrispearljam

pjfan31 wrote:

10c were probably faced with multiple flipping fucks ordering several copies. They had to draw the line somewhere.

thats the whole truth..and im fully support this..
feel sorry for people bought for a friend.but need to see the bigger picture..
fuck the flippers.

pjfan31

dimitrispearljam wrote:

pjfan31 wrote:

10c were probably faced with multiple flipping fucks ordering several copies. They had to draw the line somewhere.

thats the whole truth..and im fully support this..
feel sorry for people bought for a friend.but need to see the bigger picture..
fuck the flippers.

I speak the truth. Same time next week people......

WM31482

pjfan31 wrote:

I will probably get flamed here, but here goes.

Sure there are some noble people who bought a 2nd copy for someone else, to you guys I feel sorry...

But you gotta ask why would most people buy more than one? To give it to their mum, dad, sister brother and dog for Xmas? No way

The majority of people who bought multiples (and again, I feel sorry for people who did by an extra for a friend) will flip them... I think changing the conditions of post-sale sucks, but at the end of the day, limiting it to one per customer was the right thing to do....

10c were probably faced with multiple flipping fucks ordering several copies. They had to draw the line somewhere.

Perhaps they found themselves in a situation where they had money that night, and a +1 with no number of their own because they've been relying on yours since you converted them? Then you might then need a 2nd copy in order to convince someone to hand over their visa number asap-

However cancellation of one order, would really leave them in the same exact position they're in now (one copy of their own). So basically yeah I also think that anybody who is acting that angry is probably full of it! (and also probably a lot less rich than you think, soo many of you-)

UNLESS of course, Santos were to some how pick the wrong shipping address to cancel, then I can't promise you won't find me back here at a later date with a different attitude.... :roll:

Better Dan

dimitrispearljam wrote:

pjfan31 wrote:

10c were probably faced with multiple flipping fucks ordering several copies. They had to draw the line somewhere.

thats the whole truth..and im fully support this..
feel sorry for people bought for a friend.but need to see the bigger picture..
fuck the flippers.

That's what it sounds like from Santos' comments. It sounds like he truly planned to honor the first night sales until he saw how many people were obviously purchasing an insane number of records (likely to flip).

dimitrispearljam

Better Dan wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

pjfan31 wrote:

10c were probably faced with multiple flipping fucks ordering several copies. They had to draw the line somewhere.

thats the whole truth..and im fully support this..
feel sorry for people bought for a friend.but need to see the bigger picture..
fuck the flippers.

That's what it sounds like from Santos' comments. It sounds like he truly planned to honor the first night sales until he saw how many people were obviously purchasing an insane number of records (likely to flip).

the good part...is the people who are angry first of all...are the fuckin flippers..hehehe....
some try to help a friend,will be ok..friend will understand is for good this move..

Santos..you nailed this one..

WhyNotSweden

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Santos..you nailed this one..

:thumbup:

ScottandPearlJam

faceintheclouds wrote:

janvanderdam wrote:

Just stop complaining. If you got one, great. If not, get over it.

Fucking right. All this constant bitching and whining is starting to get old. If it's not one thing it's another. They're just gonna end up gassing the 10c and tell us all to go fuck ourselves. Then we have no chance on getting anything.

No they won't........you act like pj doesn't want our money. If you believe that then........
If you guys notice PJ can barely sell 1 million copies of and album. With that in mind they rely on tours/merch.......keyword merch. Thats where the profits come from......so why would they tell us to go fuck ourselves????? doesnt make sense. They need us just as much as we need them. Just have to find the balance.

scott

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Sawyer wrote:

im sure they will just get on the AET and make light of it...even though it is actually very very very wrong and actually not lawful at all

it sucks, but it is in no way illegal. any business has any right to refuse service or product as long as money is not paid or refunded. simple as that.

shep

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the good part...is the people who are angry first of all...are the fuckin flippers..hehehe....
some try to help a friend,will be ok..friend will understand is for good this move..

Santos..you nailed this one..

:thumbup:

It's always funny to see the flip-flopping done by Sawyer on this stuff...

There's no way he ordered a 2nd for a "friend" given his track record around here of buying things basically for Trade Bait.... Between vinyl and his never ending stockpile of crashious hoodies, he's always looking to Bait people for something over and above what his item is worth... to me this is no different than flipping, but I'm not going to start that discussion...

Anyway, I'm glad I ordered 1 copy for myself, which was exactly what I wanted. I agree with many in this thread about the lack of professionalism by 10C.... saying that they would honor multiple orders and then changing their opinion on this matter hours later is not ethical... and it makes for a shitty situation.... because basically if you don't live on this board, you got fucked.... or your "friend" got fucked in this situation.

But as it stands, we're all aware of the 10C situation and I've stated my opinion on it multiple times, so I won't go into a long discourse here again.... great, super nice people, but business is not their strong point. The band seems to be fine with this, and that's the way it appears it's gonna stay.

Sawyer

shep wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

the good part...is the people who are angry first of all...are the fuckin flippers..hehehe....
some try to help a friend,will be ok..friend will understand is for good this move..

Santos..you nailed this one..

:thumbup:

It's always funny to see the flip-flopping done by Sawyer on this stuff...

There's no way he ordered a 2nd for a "friend" given his track record around here of buying things basically for Trade Bait.... Between vinyl and his never ending stockpile of crashious hoodies, he's always looking to Bait people for something over and above what his item is worth... to me this is no different than flipping, but I'm not going to start that discussion...

Anyway, I'm glad I ordered 1 copy for myself, which was exactly what I wanted. I agree with many in this thread about the lack of professionalism by 10C.... saying that they would honor multiple orders and then changing their opinion on this matter hours later is not ethical... and it makes for a shitty situation.... because basically if you don't live on this board, you got fucked.... or your "friend" got fucked in this situation.

But as it stands, we're all aware of the 10C situation and I've stated my opinion on it multiple times, so I won't go into a long discourse here again.... great, super nice people, but business is not their strong point. The band seems to be fine with this, and that's the way it appears it's gonna stay.

man, you have me pegged...glad you're 'not gonna start that discussion'

EZ1221C

shep wrote:

But as it stands, we're all aware of the 10C situation and I've stated my opinion on it multiple times, so I won't go into a long discourse here again.... great, super nice people, but business is not their strong point. The band seems to be fine with this, and that's the way it appears it's gonna stay.

The way I see it is if we keep buying up all their shit, they don't care how their business runs.

pjradio

shep wrote:

saying that they would honor multiple orders and then changing their opinion on this matter hours later is not ethical... and it makes for a shitty situation....

+100%...my ONLY complaint about this whole situation