Long overdue. Israel needs to preemptively strike Iran

usamamasan1

People are starting to say this could be happening during the EV solo tour in the south....
For those of you not well read on the subject, Khamenei affirmed that Iran had assisted militant groups like the Lebanese Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/i ... bled=false



War hysteria continues to grip the Middle East, as heightened anxieties over Iran's surreptitious nuclear program have the U.S. Defense Secretary on edge.

Leon Panetta said Thursday that Israel could launch attacks against Iran as early as April or May in effort to stop Tehran from building a nuclear bomb.
Panetta made the initial remarks to Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, who said Israelis are worried the Iranians have enough enriched uranium and only the U.S. could stop them militarily.

When asked in Brussels if he disputed the report, Panetta said, "No I'm just commenting," adding "What I think and what I view, I consider that to be an area that belongs to me and nobody else." He noted the U.S. has "indicated our concerns."

Panetta's comments come after Israel issued a harsh warning that time was running out to stop Iran's ambitious nuclear program.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said at a news conference that the country should confront Iran to keep its nuclear program from continuing to grow and argued that foreign governments would support such an attack.

And Yoram Cohen, head of Israeli security agency Shin Bet, added fuel to the fire, insisting Iranian agents were attempting to attack Israeli targets in retaliation for the assassination of four Iranian nuclear scientists since November 2010.

Iran Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei chimed in on Friday, promising to help any nation or group that wants to confront Israel and vowed to continue its nuclear program.

He called Israel a "cancerous tumor that should be cut and will be cut," blasting Western-backed oil sanctions and warning the U.S. will be defeated if Washington decides to use military force to halt the country's program.

A statement by Intelligence Director James Clapper, delivered to the Senate earlier this week, said U.S. intelligence agencies to do not think Iran is currently developing nuclear weapons, but Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is keeping the option open.

"We do not know, however, if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons," Clapper's report said.




maybe the bolded above was another "faulty translation" like was claimed about my OP....

he still stands

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(is this an "opinion" that is supported by the Pearl Jam community?)

BinauralJam

he still stands wrote:

i agree. let's kill em all.

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(is this an "opinion" that is supported by the Pearl Jam community?)

Woot

he still stands

BinauralJam wrote:

Woot

screw this place.

(edit: not you, or your comment obvi)

usamamasan1

It would be great if the targets could be destroyed without the loss of life. i presume there will be casualties though.

Pentagon war planners have concluded that their largest conventional bomb isn't yet capable of destroying Iran's most heavily fortified underground facilities, and are stepping up efforts to make it more powerful, according to U.S. officials briefed on the plan.

The Defense Department has spent about $330 million so far to develop about 20 of the bombs, which are built by Boeing Co. The Pentagon is seeking about $82 million more to make the bomb more effective, according to government officials briefed on the plan.

In Tuesday's State of the Union address, Mr. Obama said: "Let there be no doubt: America is determined to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, and I will take no options off the table to achieve that goal."

BinauralJam

he still stands wrote:

BinauralJam wrote:

Woot

screw this place.

(edit: not you, or your comment obvi)

Now Now He Still Stands, if we walk away the Republerists will win.

usamamasan1

According to Air Force officials, the 20.5 foot-long MOP (made by our friends at Boeing)
carries over 5,300 pounds of explosive material. It is designed to penetrate up to 200 feet underground before exploding. The mountain above the Iranian enrichment site at Fordow is estimated to be at least 200 feet tall.

a tactical nuclear weapon may be the only military option if the goal is to destroy the facility.

gimmesometruth27

cheerleading for a war is absoluely disgraceful.


but what the fuck, its not your house going to be bombed, so you don't care...


this band would be ashamed of you.

usamamasan1

This is a non pearl jam discussion. I couldn't care less and the band is not my moral compass.

Lmfao

Besides, I am not cheer leading for a war. I am proposing that Iran should be stopped from getting a nuke. Duh

I think I got the President of the United States in agreement. But, the band? Maybe not

Lmfao. Again.

puremagic

usamamasan1 wrote:

According to Air Force officials, the 20.5 foot-long MOP (made by our friends at Boeing)
carries over 5,300 pounds of explosive material. It is designed to penetrate up to 200 feet underground before exploding. The mountain above the Iranian enrichment site at Fordow is estimated to be at least 200 feet tall.

a tactical nuclear weapon may be the only military option if the goal is to destroy the facility.

The MOPs are already in Israel via Diego Garcia layover. Same place the US staged during its attack on Iraq, thanks to Blair and the UK.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/22/world ... f5bTCyqkvA

Published: July 22, 2006
WASHINGTON, July 21 —

The Bush administration is rushing a delivery of precision-guided bombs to Israel, which requested the expedited shipment last week after beginning its air campaign against Hezbollah targets in Lebanon, American officials said Friday. …

Pentagon and military officials declined to describe in detail the size and contents of the shipment to Israel, and they would not say whether the munitions were being shipped by cargo aircraft or some other means. But an arms-sale package approved last year provides authority for Israel to purchase from the United States as many as 100 GBU-28’s, which are 5,000-pound laser-guided bombs intended to destroy concrete bunkers. The package also provides for selling satellite-guided munitions.

SweetChildofMine

All the stories I'm getting is about gold and oil. I guess if you want to forcefully take these items from Iranians you would use a few bombs and say they want to develop nukes.


(pssst... I guess im a hippy liberal who stands against war ... if I had a ride Id be protesting tommorow)

josevolution

Man that would suck to get into another War i hope they decide not to ...

Jason P

josevolution wrote:

Man that would suck to get into another War i hope they decide not to ...

I would hope not. Looks like that is where everything is headed, though. I don't understand why the Iranian leadership is proceeding with the nuclear program, politics and beliefs aside. They saw what happened in Iraq, and that was just some made-up shit. Now they have been hit with sanctions and could trigger an event that would kill the global economic recovery.

polaris_x

Jason P wrote:

I would hope not. Looks like that is where everything is headed, though. I don't understand why the Iranian leadership is proceeding with the nuclear program, politics and beliefs aside. They saw what happened in Iraq, and that was just some made-up shit. Now they have been hit with sanctions and could trigger an event that would kill the global economic recovery.

if it's not nukes ... it's gonna be something else ... war profiteering is what america does best ... mainly because its public will believe everything they hear ... :(

yeah ... ignore the fact that america has been intervening in iran for almost 60 years now and play war games so, more innocent people can die ... all in the name of greed ...

:evil:

josevolution

Jason P wrote:

josevolution wrote:

Man that would suck to get into another War i hope they decide not to ...

I would hope not. Looks like that is where everything is headed, though. I don't understand why the Iranian leadership is proceeding with the nuclear program, politics and beliefs aside. They saw what happened in Iraq, and that was just some made-up shit. Now they have been hit with sanctions and could trigger an event that would kill the global economic recovery.

I agree this would def lead to other catastrophic events thruout the world , its fucking sad ...I wan't no wars at all i know it's naive of me to think that ....

LikeAnOcean

Lets just preemptively kill everyone and be done with human beings. Nobody will ever be threatened or have to die again.



Seriously, I say let Iran do whatever the fuck they want. The second they attack, you turn them into a parking lot.

No more of this preemptive bullshit. Humans are a bunch of paranoid freaks. Iran is not going to attack anybody unless they are suicidal. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.


We these have wars so big business can make $$$.. They can use our freaking tax dollars. Fear is easily sold, so its a big business for them.

keeponrockin

usamamasan1 wrote:

According to Air Force officials, the 20.5 foot-long MOP (made by our friends at Boeing)
carries over 5,300 pounds of explosive material. It is designed to penetrate up to 200 feet underground before exploding. The mountain above the Iranian enrichment site at Fordow is estimated to be at least 200 feet tall.

a tactical nuclear weapon may be the only military option if the goal is to destroy the facility.

You going to sign up to go?

usamamasan1

the only dumb question is the one you don't ask. you will get there, someday. Just keep asking the right questions and keep your head up.

this isn't about me.

Besides, we have a voluntary military in the United States. Best in the world. If they needed me, I can help. That's what i am here for...to help.

Idris

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Lets just preemptively kill everyone and be done with human beings. Nobody will ever be threatened or have to die again.



Seriously, I say let Iran do whatever the fuck they want. The second they attack, you turn them into a parking lot.

No more of this preemptive bullshit. Humans are a bunch of paranoid freaks. Iran is not going to attack anybody unless they are suicidal. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.


We these have wars so big business can make $$$.. They can use our freaking tax dollars. Fear is easily sold, so its a big business for them.

For sure,

When the puppet masters want war, war tends to happen. If we want to stop war, we should vote for people who don't just go to war for 'the system'. We need to also break the system. The Federal Reserve etc.

Like you said, Iran probably won't attack anyone. All the US and/or Israel need to do, is to pull a 'False Flag'. That will get enough Americans to support a War with Iran or whatever else.

For example 'Operation Susannah' (The Lavon Affair), Israeli Mossad agents planted bombs on American and British Interests, leaving fabricated evidence pointing towards a group they wanted to frame.

Or when Israeli planes attacked the American ship the USS Liberty??
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

SweetChildofMine

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Lets just preemptively kill everyone and be done with human beings. Nobody will ever be threatened or have to die again.



Seriously, I say let Iran do whatever the fuck they want. The second they attack, you turn them into a parking lot.

No more of this preemptive bullshit. Humans are a bunch of paranoid freaks. Iran is not going to attack anybody unless they are suicidal. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.


We these have wars so big business can make $$$.. They can use our freaking tax dollars. Fear is easily sold, so its a big business for them.

I agree ...put the world in a love embrace and explode into space.