Long overdue. Israel needs to preemptively strike Iran

usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
edited February 2012 in A Moving Train
After Iran stated that it will "wipe Israel off the map" Israel must now act to defend herself. Getting tired of Iran and that little baby Ahmadinejad rattling his saber.
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Time to blast them. Trying to get nukes...hell's no ain't gonna happen.

BAAM!
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
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    lolz
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  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Well they have the weapons for it,

    http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/worl ... to-israel/

    President Barack Obama secretly authorised the sale of 55 powerful bunker-busting bombs to Israel, Newsweek magazine says.Israel first asked to buy deep-penetrating GBU-28 bombs in 2005, but was rebuffed by then-president George W Bush. At the time the Pentagon had frozen joint US-Israeli defence projects, fearful that Israel was transferring advanced military technology to China, Newsweek said.However in 2007 Bush informed then-Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert that the bombs would be ready for delivery in 2009 or 2010, even though the Israelis wanted them immediately.

    Obama released the bombs in 2009, the magazine reports, citing unnamed officials familiar with the still-secret decision.Newsweek, citing unnamed US and Israeli officials, said in its online edition that Israel has developed its own bunker-buster technology, but that it was cheaper to buy the US weapons.

    http://news.antiwar.com/2011/09/23/obam ... to-israel/
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,191
    After Iran stated that it will "wipe Israel off the map" Israel must now act to defend herself. Getting tired of Iran and that little baby Ahmadinejad rattling his saber.

    Time to blast them. Trying to get nukes...hell's no ain't gonna happen.

    BAAM!

    Why do you troll post, when in your non-AMT life you're a reasonable person?
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    if iran truly was a threat to israel, israel would have already acted. its not like they havent done it before. the US`talks and talks and talks about iran being a threat but they dont do anything about it... have you ever wondered why that might be?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    iran is about as big of a threat to israel as iraq was..

    if i were israel i would be trying to make as many friends in the region as possible since they have lost a key ally in egypt..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    iran is about as big of a threat to israel as iraq was..

    if i were israel i would be trying to make as many friends in the region as possible since they have lost a key ally in egypt..


    who needs friends when youre armed to the teeth? 8-)
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    iran is about as big of a threat to israel as iraq was..

    if i were israel i would be trying to make as many friends in the region as possible since they have lost a key ally in egypt..


    who needs friends when youre armed to the teeth? 8-)
    i was giving israel the benefit of the doubt that they do not have nukes, as they have maintained that postion for a long time.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    iran is about as big of a threat to israel as iraq was..

    if i were israel i would be trying to make as many friends in the region as possible since they have lost a key ally in egypt..


    who needs friends when youre armed to the teeth? 8-)
    i was giving israel the benefit of the doubt that they do not have nukes, as they have maintained that postion for a long time.

    aww thats sweet of you gimme. ;):lol:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    aww thats sweet of you gimme. ;):lol:
    i guess if you hear a lie enough times it begins to sink in as true lol..
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    aww thats sweet of you gimme. ;):lol:
    i guess if you hear a lie enough times it begins to sink in as true lol..

    i heard it on the news.. why would they lie to me? :lol:
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Except Ahmadinejad never said that Israel should be wiped off the map:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ah ... ontroversy

    Many news sources repeated the Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting statement by Ahmadinejad that "Israel must be wiped off the map",[5][6] an English idiom which means to "cause a place to stop existing",[7] or to "obliterate totally",[8] or "destroy completely".[9]

    Ahmadinejad's phrase was " بايد از صفحه روزگار محو شود " according to the text published on the President's Office's website.[10]

    The translation presented by the official Islamic Republic News Agency has been challenged by Arash Norouzi, who says the statement "wiped off the map" was never made and that Ahmadinejad did not refer to the nation or land mass of Israel, but to the "regime occupying Jerusalem". Norouzi translated the original Persian to English, with the result, "the Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."[11] Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, agrees that Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as, "the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem (een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods) must [vanish from] the page of time (bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad).[12] According to Cole, "Ahmadinejad did not say he was going to 'wipe Israel off the map' because no such idiom exists in Persian." Instead, "he did say he hoped its regime, i.e., a Jewish-Zionist state occupying Jerusalem, would collapse."[13] The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) translated the phrase similarly, as "this regime" must be "eliminated from the pages of history."[14]

    Iranian government sources denied that Ahmadinejad issued any sort of threat. On 20 February 2006, Iran's foreign minister Manouchehr Mottaki told a news conference: "How is it possible to remove a country from the map? He is talking about the regime. We do not recognize legally this regime."[15][16][17]

    Shiraz Dossa, a professor of Political Science at St. Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia, Canada, also believes the text is a mistranslation.[18]

    'Ahmadinejad was quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini in the specific speech under discussion: what he said was that "the occupation regime over Jerusalem should vanish from the page of time." No state action is envisaged in this lament; it denotes a spiritual wish, whereas the erroneous translation—"wipe Israel off the map"—suggests a military threat. There is a huge chasm between the correct and the incorrect translations. The notion that Iran can "wipe out" U.S.-backed, nuclear-armed Israel is ludicrous.'


    Also, Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2007/dec/04/world/fg-iran4

    'U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that Iran halted its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and that international pressure has compelled the Islamic Republic to back away from its pursuit of the bomb.

    ...The assessment, which represents the consensus of the 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, including the CIA and the National Security Agency, is expected to have major implications for the ongoing debate over whether to confront Iran militarily or through diplomatic means, an issue that has been a source of friction within the Bush administration and with some members of the international community.'


    But then why let the facts get in the way of your trolling and baiting?
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    this thread should be titled.

    Bitter as fuck about Perrys 10 point drop so lets bomb something.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    CH156378 wrote:
    this thread should be titled.

    Bitter as fuck about Perrys 10 point drop so lets bomb something.

    :clap:
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    After Iran stated that it will "wipe Israel off the map" Israel must now act to defend herself. Getting tired of Iran and that little baby Ahmadinejad rattling his saber.
    Time to blast them. Trying to get nukes...hell's no ain't gonna happen.
    BAAM!
    ...
    'They' should... 'We' should...
    Tell you what, why don't YOU do something about it? There are non-Israelis in the I.D.F. 'They' could use 'YOUR' hand.
    I just get irked when people who sit in the comfort of their living room get all hopped up and happy about war. Go pick up a weapon and join in fucking fun if you think it's so glorious.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Cosmo wrote:
    After Iran stated that it will "wipe Israel off the map" Israel must now act to defend herself. Getting tired of Iran and that little baby Ahmadinejad rattling his saber.
    Time to blast them. Trying to get nukes...hell's no ain't gonna happen.
    BAAM!
    ...
    'They' should... 'We' should...
    Tell you what, why don't YOU do something about it? There are non-Israelis in the I.D.F. 'They' could use 'YOUR' hand.
    I just get irked when people who sit in the comfort of their living room get all hopped up and happy about war. Go pick up a weapon and join in fucking fun if you think it's so glorious.

    I had this same thought. If he's so desperate to go and kill poor brown-skinned people then why doesn't he enlist? And if he loves Israel so much then why doesn't he convert to Judaism and get himself a nice government subsidized house in the occupied territories from where he could beat and shoot Palestinian women and children to his hearts content?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    After Iran stated that it will "wipe Israel off the map" Israel must now act to defend herself. Getting tired of Iran and that little baby Ahmadinejad rattling his saber.
    Time to blast them. Trying to get nukes...hell's no ain't gonna happen.
    BAAM!
    ...
    'They' should... 'We' should...
    Tell you what, why don't YOU do something about it? There are non-Israelis in the I.D.F. 'They' could use 'YOUR' hand.
    I just get irked when people who sit in the comfort of their living room get all hopped up and happy about war. Go pick up a weapon and join in fucking fun if you think it's so glorious.

    I had this same thought. If he's so desperate to go and kill poor brown-skinned people then why doesn't he enlist? And if he loves Israel so much then why doesn't he convert to Judaism and get himself a nice government subsidized house in the occupied territories from where he could beat and shoot Palestinian women and children to his hearts content?
    you do not have to be jewish to be a part of the idf....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    you do not have to be jewish to be a part of the idf....

    The settlers aren't all members of the IDF.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Byrnzie wrote:
    you do not have to be jewish to be a part of the idf....

    The settlers aren't all members of the IDF.
    i know, i was just adding to your post by implying that joining the idf is another option instead of being a settler...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Byrnzie wrote:
    you do not have to be jewish to be a part of the idf....

    The settlers aren't all members of the IDF.
    i know, i was just adding to your post by implying that joining the idf is another option instead of being a settler...

    What are the requirements of joining the IDF?
  • Regarding Israel and it's nuclear program, people still believe they don't have them? :lol:

    Israel operates a policy of 'nuclear ambiguity,' refusing to confirm or deny their existance. They refuse to sign the NPT, yet Iran has signed it. Iran hasn't started a war in hundreds of years. When was the last war Israel started?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Byrnzie wrote:
    [What are the requirements of joining the IDF?
    i was wrong, you do not have to be israeli, but either you, one of your parents, or one of your grandparents has to be jewish.

    http://www.mahal-idf-volunteers.org/about/join.htm
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • if iran truly was a threat to israel, israel would have already acted. its not like they havent done it before. the US`talks and talks and talks about iran being a threat but they dont do anything about it... have you ever wondered why that might be?

    Its only a matter of time until evil people acquire the technology to bring destruction to this world! Its common sense! Of course we know why the USA hasnt done anything....because the liberals in this country and the anti Americans around the world will accuse us of being imperialist and bullying! Michael Moore and all the people who follow him will make a movie about it.....our image will seem disingenuious and we will seem mean to the rest of the world due to the media vessel that will portray us as being the terrorists! So the political correctness that is brought on by liberalism....will hinder our ability to fight the true threats coming! This is a major problem and one great way that we will be defeated from within.....lack of will to fight!
    Theres no time like the present

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    All people need to do more on every level!
  • our image will seem disingenuious and we will seem mean to the rest of the world
    Isn't it a little late to be concerned about the image the US might portray to the rest of the world? Past and current actions have already taken care of that,
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Byrnzie wrote:
    [What are the requirements of joining the IDF?
    i was wrong, you do not have to be israeli, but either you, one of your parents, or one of your grandparents has to be jewish.

    http://www.mahal-idf-volunteers.org/about/join.htm

    O.k. I didn't know that.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Its only a matter of time until evil people acquire the technology to bring destruction to this world! Its common sense! Of course we know why the USA hasnt done anything....because the liberals in this country and the anti Americans around the world will accuse us of being imperialist and bullying! Michael Moore and all the people who follow him will make a movie about it.....our image will seem disingenuious and we will seem mean to the rest of the world due to the media vessel that will portray us as being the terrorists! So the political correctness that is brought on by liberalism....will hinder our ability to fight the true threats coming! This is a major problem and one great way that we will be defeated from within.....lack of will to fight!

    In your first sentence you talk about how evil people will bring destruction to this World, and then you go on to say how it's a bad thing that America is apparently being prevented from starting World War III and bringing destruction to this World.

    Weird logic you have there.

    Here's a few questions for you:

    1. What's your definition of 'evil people'?
    2. When was the last time Iran started a war?
    3. Why do Americans always need an enemy? (See if you can answer this question without mentioning the U.S arms industry).
  • After Iran stated that it will "wipe Israel off the map" Israel must now act to defend herself. Getting tired of Iran and that little baby Ahmadinejad rattling his saber.
    Time to blast them. Trying to get nukes...hell's no ain't gonna happen.

    BAAM!


    Still bitter about those Iranians who came through Canada and hit a couple of buildings?

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    if iran truly was a threat to israel, israel would have already acted. its not like they havent done it before. the US`talks and talks and talks about iran being a threat but they dont do anything about it... have you ever wondered why that might be?

    Its only a matter of time until evil people acquire the technology to bring destruction to this world! Its common sense! Of course we know why the USA hasnt done anything....because the liberals in this country and the anti Americans around the world will accuse us of being imperialist and bullying! Michael Moore and all the people who follow him will make a movie about it.....our image will seem disingenuious and we will seem mean to the rest of the world due to the media vessel that will portray us as being the terrorists! So the political correctness that is brought on by liberalism....will hinder our ability to fight the true threats coming! This is a major problem and one great way that we will be defeated from within.....lack of will to fight!

    the media will somehow through their portrayal of the US military machine as 'terrorists' hinder and i guess possibly stop the US from.. what again???? didnt stop them invading iraq for no fucking reason whatsoever... oh hang on.. thats right... that media youre so intent on painting as the enemy of the states machine, did sweet FA in doing anything about the USs pre emptive strike on iraq... in fact the majority of the media was standing right behind the pentagon trying to convince the sheep iraq was an iminent threat and that we couldnt wait for the proof to come in the form of a mushroom cloud.
    and when have the liberals and the so called anti americans 'around the world' ever stopped the US from doing anything? michael moore is a polemicist, therefore he stirs shit up. there is nothing wrong with presenting an alternate point of view. doesnt mean we all have to agree with him. all it asks is that you think... that you research and read and think about what youre reading.. and if you dont agree with one side, or even if you have a problem with both sides, then you question. but what you dont do is take as gospel someone elses opinion.
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  • Iran hooks up terrorists. Simple, they must be thwarted. GW was spot on. axis of evil.

    "when was the last time Iran started a war". :lol:

    Blast them I say.
  • Its only a matter of time until evil people acquire the technology to bring destruction to this world! Its common sense! Of course we know why the USA hasnt done anything....because the liberals in this country and the anti Americans around the world will accuse us of being imperialist and bullying! Michael Moore and all the people who follow him will make a movie about it.....our image will seem disingenuious and we will seem mean to the rest of the world due to the media vessel that will portray us as being the terrorists! So the political correctness that is brought on by liberalism....will hinder our ability to fight the true threats coming! This is a major problem and one great way that we will be defeated from within.....lack of will to fight!

    So by this logic, conservatives must be evil.

    It's all so clear; only the heroic efforts of the Democrats and their leftist supporters can save the world from the wrath of the NRO (New Republican Order). So take Fear4freedom's advice and vote for Obama in 2012 to prevent the evil Republicans from acquiring access to the advanced technology needed to bring destruction to the middle east and spark a conflict with the other major nuclear powers.

    Political correctness is our last, best hope to fight the true threat coming in 2012; Rick Perry.
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