at least I am discussing the topic that was presented, and that was about travel, and its effects on winning championships ... which imo it does not, the oilers won 5 in 7 years and had travel just as much and Gretzky was only there for 4 championships, Messier was there for all 5 ...
so no I'm not bashing the wings ...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I could care less about how well rested the allignment helps the Redwings ... I'm more concerned with the Zzzz's I gain from it.
yep, just recently Game 7 of the first round of the 2013 playoffs against Anaheim started at 10 on a Sunday
:evil: :evil:
1998 ~ Barrie
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
I could care less about how well rested the allignment helps the Redwings ... I'm more concerned with the Zzzz's I gain from it.
I've stated its good for the fans ... and really thats what should matter, not to mention the renewed Toronto, Montreal, Boston rivalries ... the loss of the Chicago rivalry was 1 downside.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I could care less about how well rested the allignment helps the Redwings ... I'm more concerned with the Zzzz's I gain from it.
I've stated its good for the fans ... and really thats what should matter, not to mention the renewed Toronto, Montreal, Boston rivalries ... the loss of the Chicago rivalry was 1 downside.
I also see a rivalry growing with Buffalo if/when Buffalo is decent again. Very close proximity.
I could care less about how well rested the allignment helps the Redwings ... I'm more concerned with the Zzzz's I gain from it.
I've stated its good for the fans ... and really thats what should matter, not to mention the renewed Toronto, Montreal, Boston rivalries ... the loss of the Chicago rivalry was 1 downside.
I also see a rivalry growing with Buffalo if/when Buffalo is decent again. Very close proximity.
It should grow into a good rivalry ...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
drivingrl: "Will I ever get to meet Gwen Stefani?"
kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.
Yup ... And I think they pretty much suck. Nike should not have been involved at all, Roots should be designing our Olympics uniforms ....
as someone who doesn't buy and wear hockey jerseys ... my only concern is how they will look with a gold medal hung over the front ...
I hear you there ... I'd like to be more positive, just to feel this team will have the calibre of goaltending needed. Plus I feel they are making the same mistakes that was made in Turin. But we'll see, have to wait until the final roster is announced.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I hear you there ... I'd like to be more positive, just to feel this team will have the calibre of goaltending needed. Plus I feel they are making the same mistakes that was made in Turin. But we'll see, have to wait until the final roster is announced.
well ... we gotta do something different on the big ice ...
TORONTO - Thanks to the enforcement of rules that make for more wide-open hockey, Bobby Orr would enjoy playing in this era of the NHL.
But from his perspective as an agent and former player, the Hall of Fame defenceman sees plenty of things he would like to change. In his autobiography, "Orr: My Story," he details what he think would make the game safer: namely putting the red-line back in to slow things down and getting rid of the trapezoid to cut down on hits behind the net.
"The last thing I want to see is hitting being taken out of the game," Orr said in an interview with The Canadian Press. "We're a physical game: with the size and having the pucks and sticks, we're going to have injuries. It's just the silly hits from behind, players trying to intimidate other players that don't play like that, I think that's what's wrong."
Orr thinks the game is more dangerous now, after 2005 rule changes that were designed to create more offence, like eliminating the red-line for two-line passes and pushing the blue-line out to give players more room to maneuver in the offensive zone, especially on the power play.
"The players really have to be aware of where they are," Orr said. "And that player that's coming to check that player (has to think), 'Do I have this guy in a vulnerable position?' And make sure, if he's going to check him, he's going to check him cleanly and hopefully not hurt the player. Because of the size, and we have no red-line, we're wide open now."
Rule 48 was instituted to punish players for hits to the head, something that's a far cry from Orr's first game, when he took an elbow from the Detroit Red Wings' Gordie Howe and told teammates he pretty much deserved it. Players are bigger and stronger now, and Orr knows the NHL has changed a lot in the past 40 years.
But one thing the eight-time Norris Trophy-winner doesn't want to change is fighting. Orr wants it to remain part of the game.
In the book, he uses the example of the Montreal Canadiens having John Ferguson to keep the peace but also to play good, solid hockey.
"If a player is trying to intimidate a skilled player on your team, what do we want? We want our skilled players playing, so we shouldn't be doing that," said Orr, who had 42 fights in the NHL according to HockeyFights.com. "My stand on fighting is if we eliminate it completely, that fear of getting beat up is a great deterrent. We don't need guys running around poking and using their stick and hitting (players) that don't normally hit."
Orr supports eliminating staged fights pre-planned at the drop of the puck off a face-off and those that follow clean hits. He wants the onus to be on officials to know the tone of a game and decide whether to give out extra penalties depending on the situation.
But that's with fighting serving as a deterrent.
"Let the players police that ice," Orr said. "They'll straighten it out. There'll be an understanding."
Orr said the game as it is now is in "great shape" because of the depth of talent throughout the league. His concerns have to do with those talented players being victimized by cheap or dirty hits or goaded into dropping the gloves.
"We want our skilled players playing, and you can't be running around trying to intimidate them to get them off the game, get them off the ice," he said. "Sidney Crosby, our greatest player, I don't want to see Sidney Crosby in the penalty box. I don't want to see Sidney Crosby hurt. I want to see Sidney Crosby play. He's our best player. We need our best players playing all the time."
Crosby missed the end of the 2013 regular season because of a broken jaw the Pittsburgh Penguins captain suffered when hit by a puck that deflected up into his face. That's a freak accident, as it was when New York Rangers defenceman Marc Staal took a puck to the right eye that caused lingering vision problems.
But Orr pointed to Boston Bruins forward Gregory Campbell's broken leg while blocking a shot on a penalty kill in last year's playoffs as an instance in which new rules proved costly.
"There are more penalties, and penalty-killing is difficult, there's four feet added inside the offensive zone and they load the one side and put out that guy for the one-timer," Orr said. "And the coach says block the shot. Many players are getting injured seriously from deflected pucks and so on."
Orr likes that referees have given more leeway on obstruction to slow players down than they did coming out of the lockout and haven't called as many penalties in the years since. In his estimation, not being able to hook and hold has increased the speed of the game and made it a "little more dangerous."
As part of his "State of the Game" chapter, Orr writes in support of no-touch icing. He said Tuesday that he loves the hybrid icing the NHL has instituted beginning this season.
"I haven't seen a player get hit harshly this season," Orr said. "I watch a lot of hockey, and I think the new icing rule, hybrid icing is great."
Orr doesn't want "radical innovations in the most exciting game on the planet," nor does he think putting out a book will make the board of governors and general managers see everything his way.
"I'm not trying to change the rules. I have an opinion," Orr said. "I'm not sure they're going to listen to me."
Of course it's the opinion of an eight-time Norris Trophy winner, which means it holds some weight.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
drivingrl: "Will I ever get to meet Gwen Stefani?"
kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.
1998 ~ Barrie
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
I think it's cool ... especially since he shot the puck, and a pretty good shot for a goalie at that ... :thumbup: :thumbup:
yeah, remember when they had goalie shooting skills in the skills competition years ago :fp: :fp:
1998 ~ Barrie
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
No I don't remember goalies skills competition ... Not surprised. I also do not watch any sports all star game, I say just give them the time off. By far the NHL, NFL and the NBA have terrible all star games.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
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so no I'm not bashing the wings ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
yep, just recently Game 7 of the first round of the 2013 playoffs against Anaheim started at 10 on a Sunday
:evil: :evil:
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
I've stated its good for the fans ... and really thats what should matter, not to mention the renewed Toronto, Montreal, Boston rivalries ... the loss of the Chicago rivalry was 1 downside.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I also see a rivalry growing with Buffalo if/when Buffalo is decent again. Very close proximity.
It should grow into a good rivalry ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Dang! That was quick!
kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.
Next!"
is that exactly what I thought I read."
where are you guys watching the game?
Yup ... And I think they pretty much suck. Nike should not have been involved at all, Roots should be designing our Olympics uniforms ....
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
as someone who doesn't buy and wear hockey jerseys ... my only concern is how they will look with a gold medal hung over the front ...
Just like they are absolutely KILLING college football uniforms.
I hear you there ... I'd like to be more positive, just to feel this team will have the calibre of goaltending needed. Plus I feel they are making the same mistakes that was made in Turin. But we'll see, have to wait until the final roster is announced.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
well ... we gotta do something different on the big ice ...
All that I once held as true
I stand alone without beliefs
The only truth I know is you.
http://www.windsorstar.com/sports/hocke ... story.html
TORONTO - Thanks to the enforcement of rules that make for more wide-open hockey, Bobby Orr would enjoy playing in this era of the NHL.
But from his perspective as an agent and former player, the Hall of Fame defenceman sees plenty of things he would like to change. In his autobiography, "Orr: My Story," he details what he think would make the game safer: namely putting the red-line back in to slow things down and getting rid of the trapezoid to cut down on hits behind the net.
"The last thing I want to see is hitting being taken out of the game," Orr said in an interview with The Canadian Press. "We're a physical game: with the size and having the pucks and sticks, we're going to have injuries. It's just the silly hits from behind, players trying to intimidate other players that don't play like that, I think that's what's wrong."
Orr thinks the game is more dangerous now, after 2005 rule changes that were designed to create more offence, like eliminating the red-line for two-line passes and pushing the blue-line out to give players more room to maneuver in the offensive zone, especially on the power play.
"The players really have to be aware of where they are," Orr said. "And that player that's coming to check that player (has to think), 'Do I have this guy in a vulnerable position?' And make sure, if he's going to check him, he's going to check him cleanly and hopefully not hurt the player. Because of the size, and we have no red-line, we're wide open now."
Rule 48 was instituted to punish players for hits to the head, something that's a far cry from Orr's first game, when he took an elbow from the Detroit Red Wings' Gordie Howe and told teammates he pretty much deserved it. Players are bigger and stronger now, and Orr knows the NHL has changed a lot in the past 40 years.
But one thing the eight-time Norris Trophy-winner doesn't want to change is fighting. Orr wants it to remain part of the game.
In the book, he uses the example of the Montreal Canadiens having John Ferguson to keep the peace but also to play good, solid hockey.
"If a player is trying to intimidate a skilled player on your team, what do we want? We want our skilled players playing, so we shouldn't be doing that," said Orr, who had 42 fights in the NHL according to HockeyFights.com. "My stand on fighting is if we eliminate it completely, that fear of getting beat up is a great deterrent. We don't need guys running around poking and using their stick and hitting (players) that don't normally hit."
Orr supports eliminating staged fights pre-planned at the drop of the puck off a face-off and those that follow clean hits. He wants the onus to be on officials to know the tone of a game and decide whether to give out extra penalties depending on the situation.
But that's with fighting serving as a deterrent.
"Let the players police that ice," Orr said. "They'll straighten it out. There'll be an understanding."
Orr said the game as it is now is in "great shape" because of the depth of talent throughout the league. His concerns have to do with those talented players being victimized by cheap or dirty hits or goaded into dropping the gloves.
"We want our skilled players playing, and you can't be running around trying to intimidate them to get them off the game, get them off the ice," he said. "Sidney Crosby, our greatest player, I don't want to see Sidney Crosby in the penalty box. I don't want to see Sidney Crosby hurt. I want to see Sidney Crosby play. He's our best player. We need our best players playing all the time."
Crosby missed the end of the 2013 regular season because of a broken jaw the Pittsburgh Penguins captain suffered when hit by a puck that deflected up into his face. That's a freak accident, as it was when New York Rangers defenceman Marc Staal took a puck to the right eye that caused lingering vision problems.
But Orr pointed to Boston Bruins forward Gregory Campbell's broken leg while blocking a shot on a penalty kill in last year's playoffs as an instance in which new rules proved costly.
"There are more penalties, and penalty-killing is difficult, there's four feet added inside the offensive zone and they load the one side and put out that guy for the one-timer," Orr said. "And the coach says block the shot. Many players are getting injured seriously from deflected pucks and so on."
Orr likes that referees have given more leeway on obstruction to slow players down than they did coming out of the lockout and haven't called as many penalties in the years since. In his estimation, not being able to hook and hold has increased the speed of the game and made it a "little more dangerous."
As part of his "State of the Game" chapter, Orr writes in support of no-touch icing. He said Tuesday that he loves the hybrid icing the NHL has instituted beginning this season.
"I haven't seen a player get hit harshly this season," Orr said. "I watch a lot of hockey, and I think the new icing rule, hybrid icing is great."
Orr doesn't want "radical innovations in the most exciting game on the planet," nor does he think putting out a book will make the board of governors and general managers see everything his way.
"I'm not trying to change the rules. I have an opinion," Orr said. "I'm not sure they're going to listen to me."
Of course it's the opinion of an eight-time Norris Trophy winner, which means it holds some weight.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Tom O.
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
-The Writer
the leafs are for real and the parade route is planned
kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.
Next!"
That parade route has been planned going on 46 years now.
is that exactly what I thought I read."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... p94-k#t=61
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
boooooooooooooooooo
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
I think it's cool ... especially since he shot the puck, and a pretty good shot for a goalie at that ... :thumbup: :thumbup:
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
yeah, remember when they had goalie shooting skills in the skills competition years ago :fp: :fp:
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon