Occupy Wall Street and police brutality

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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    edited October 2011
    brianlux wrote:
    Jeanwah wrote:
    I'd just like to point out that as long as we see differences in ourselves rather than similarities, we are our own greatest enemy. It's not the fault of gov't, corporations, or the Fed Reserve... it's WE THE PEOPLE screwing ourselves. All of you guys who put the protestors and the movement down? You all contribute to acceptance of the country AS IS, and we all KNOW it's fucked. But because you refuse to see the bigger picture, that we all should be ON THE SAME SIDE, instead of ridiculous bickering what's wrong with every social movement, we are screwing ourselves. :x So keep up the criticism...it's only getting us absolutely nowhere.
    :thumbup:
    I'm editing my thumbs up just a tad. I'm not sure how I to find useful that which I have in common with the very few who hold the power over us very many. But other than that, you are right Jeanwah- it should be about we the people. I doubt any of us here on AMT are corporate heads or powerful politicians so, in that sense, I totally agree with you. My generation for the most part failed at bringing about peace and love and justice and now a new breed of young people are working to create a fair and just world- things we would all benefit from. Change for the better is still possible. Reminds me of a line from an REM song: "Let's put our heads together/ and start a new country up."

    I agree with you very much, we should all be on the same side. We would do well to look out for each other, take care of each other, wish each other well, and be compassionate. And really, for the most part, that is what happens here on the PJ forum. The outreach I've seen here (well, on All Encompassing anyway ;) ) always gives me hope. There are a lot of very caring people here. Yes, let's see more of that on AMT.

    Maybe I should jump over to AET then for a while. Even those who are all about "love and live and let live" (you know who you are) can't stop themselves from criticizing about something as stupid as the name of the movement, as well as what they stand for. :roll: :roll: :roll:

    Don't you people realize that you're pessimistic ways and need to put down anything outside of your comfort level stops you from evolving and growing as a person? We are all on the same team: THE PEOPLE.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    BinauralJam wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Occupy...

    It's the word Occupy that really is bothering me... not just the word... doing it.

    I am all for marches and rallies ... respectful, to the point, get a message across,
    have a permit, have millions present, walk with pride. Make a change, perhaps not
    immediate but overtime and by being civil.

    Occupy....

    If people came to my yard... and occupied it cause they hated the color of my house,
    it's yellow.. and stayed against my wishes, that would be illegal.
    It would also not be respected by anyone and it would tread on my rights.

    Occupy sound like it is bullying, terroristic behavior. It sounds immature, dangerous,
    unlawful, and that it impedes the rights of other citizens.

    Some have set up tents here in Atlanta, not many. Our Mayor backed down after saying
    they must leave by Monday evening after they walk to the mission tomorrow.

    I'm sure many affected Governors are in contact with the federal government/homeland
    security as to how to proceed. What the policy will be.

    I don't know what the President has said but he might want to get on
    TV for a real Presidential address to this soon.

    Before someone gets hurt.

    I think this could be a great oppertunity for Obama, but we got see what he makes of it.
    I hope so ...
    He gives a damn good speech

    I pray for peaceful change
    and also worry demands will be fulfilled to some degree without
    compromise

    To feed a mob is not good it will make for more and more ... everyone with a grip will
    think the government can magically fix it, probably financially, when it can't.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Jeanwah wrote:
    We are all on the same team: THE PEOPLE.

    :thumbup: :)
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    brianlux wrote:
    ....I think we all agree that name-calling here is inappropriate) and stick to the issues?
    tree hugging hippie uncle snuffagauffaassuses ....
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    more policy brutality in new york....

    here are a few videos showing cops acting with excessive force...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/1 ... 11144.html

    in the first one a cop punches a man who is walking away from him. it was caught by a multitude of cameras and the crowd starts chanting "the whole world is watching! the whole world is watching!!"

    and the second one is a cop running over a man with his scooter and leaving it on the man's leg...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    the longer this goes on the more chance of violence

    also the more unforgiving everyone will be, those who do not agree with this kind of
    ACTION and those who do
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    well, i'm heading down to occupy st louis this morning...

    i'm gonna head down there and see what's shakin'... and i am going to have my flip cam to see what i can see...

    if you all don't hear from me for a few days assume i got arrested :lol: ....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Be safe ...
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Off to Occupy Lethbridge :lol: not quite the same but at least its something.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    well, i'm heading down to occupy st louis this morning...

    i'm gonna head down there and see what's shakin'... and i am going to have my flip cam to see what i can see...

    if you all don't hear from me for a few days assume i got arrested :lol: ....

    If you get arrested, it would be worth it, right? We know you're not gonna cause trouble, Gimme... :)
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Jason P wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    ....I think we all agree that name-calling here is inappropriate) and stick to the issues?
    tree hugging hippie uncle snuffagauffaassuses ....
    :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    well, i'm heading down to occupy st louis this morning...

    i'm gonna head down there and see what's shakin'... and i am going to have my flip cam to see what i can see...

    if you all don't hear from me for a few days assume i got arrested :lol: ....
    Be safe, man. We'll look forward to hearing your reports from the St. Louis front!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Happening now in Toronto,

    http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CT ... b=CP24Home

    Setting up camps..Some people are saying that Police may try and remove the tents tonight, if that happens, things may get a bit wild.

    Right now it's fairly quiet, I do really like this one section they have teaching people their rights etc, Smart Idea.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    edited October 2011
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    Post edited by Idris on
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    Jeanwah wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    well, i'm heading down to occupy st louis this morning...

    i'm gonna head down there and see what's shakin'... and i am going to have my flip cam to see what i can see...

    if you all don't hear from me for a few days assume i got arrested :lol: ....

    If you get arrested, it would be worth it, right? We know you're not gonna cause trouble, Gimme... :)
    i wouldn't cause trouble per se....it usually finds me though..i guess i'm unlucky that way ;)
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,464
    brianlux wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    well, i'm heading down to occupy st louis this morning...

    i'm gonna head down there and see what's shakin'... and i am going to have my flip cam to see what i can see...

    if you all don't hear from me for a few days assume i got arrested :lol: ....
    Be safe, man. We'll look forward to hearing your reports from the St. Louis front!
    i'm back from occupy st. louis. i missed all of the good stuff. when i got there there were only about 2 or 300 people there. it was more like "loiter st louis", but earlier in the day there were more people there. they had education centers and booths where you can learn things, your rights, and all of the different issues that are being protested. it was pretty interesting. all of our news media networks were there interviewing people and filming. i asked a few of the people who have been living there the last 15 days where everyone else went and they said that they had dispatched volunteers to areas all over st louis to hand out flyers with facts about the movement and to invite more people down there. they are expecting more people tomorrow. there were a few police officers who were mingling amongst the crowd and talking to people. there were no arrests, no disturbances, everyone was cool to the cops because the cops were cool to them. it was almost eerily peaceful.

    tomorrow at noon a bunch of them are going to the monsanto world headquarters, which is about 10 minutes from here, to protest there. apparently they got a permit and it is going to be peaceful..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdeuuzXS ... r_embedded

    This happened today. Early reports show that over 25 people were arrested after some protesters, including customers of citibank entered with the intention of closing their accounts. There are reports that the doors were locked barring exit until the police arrived.
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    As a whole, the police, military or any other group designated by the government authorities to maintain the status quo is not their to protect the general population. It is only in times where citizens are abused, taken advantage of in an unjust manner or stand up for themselves via protest that people recognize it.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,677
    Thanks for the report, gimmesometruth27. Going back tomorrow? Keep up posted!


    Jeanwah- the video you posted is disturbing. That kind of action by the police is... it's just wrong.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    This morning news showed some of the protests around our country,
    then Rome, it was very different...
    violent with car fires, windows being busted out, protesters with hammers, riot gear
    on military/police.

    I wondered if this is what it escalates to when there is no change, when 'demands' aren't met.

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