Which songs do you think are shoe-ins to be played in St. Paul in October?
Alive Corduroy Small Town Given to Fly Pendulum Mind Your Manners Sirens Lightning Bolt Setting Forth Porch Betterman Evenflow
All of them, except Setting Forth...that's the wild card in that list
Chicago - 6/29/98
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16 Wrigley - 8/18/18 Wrigley - 8/20/18 St. Louis - 9/18/22 St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23 St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23 Chicago 1 - 9/5/23 Chicago 2 - 9/7/23 Wrigley - 8/29/24 Wrigley - 8/31/24
Haven't really carrying my weight around here, have I?. I check in once in a while, see that the MN thread is still on the first page. Unless I have something urgent to share, I try to leave the bumps alone. And let's be honest: I rarely have anything urgent to share. I did get a new job, which has severely cut into my PJ Radio listening time.
At any rate, I found the time to assemble a dream set-list. Or what I'm referring to as the "Selfish Set-List". I registered with livefootsteps.org and ran my stats. This set-list is totally assembled from album tracks that I've not seen live, that have been performed live. Singles & B-Sides omitted. If you've got Spotify, you can listen here. Comes in at 40 songs. Kind of a sleeper, but good to listen to while I type my day away...
I’m Open Pendulum Sometimes Speed of Sound Can’t Keep Let the Records Play Johnny Guitar Evacuation Getaway Ghost Rival Green Disease Unemployable Bu$hleaguer My Father’s Son Get Right ½ Full Cropduster Swallowed Whole Tremor Christ Oceans Amongst the Waves Big Wave
Encore 1 / Acoustic seated set: All or None All Those Yesterdays Thin Air Parachutes Sirens Sleeping by Myself The End Arc
Encore 2: Soon Forget Guaranteed Yellow Moon Infallible Gonna See My Friend Leash
Encore 3: Inside Job Nothing As It Seems Immortality
Most of the crowd would be bummed with that setlist. Not a fan of the first three albums are you!
I was a little overwhelmed with the prospect of creating a total set-list from scratch. I tried to challenge myself by only using songs I have not seen live.
I think it would be incredible if Pearl Jam only played 5 songs from their first 4 albums every night. And concentrated on making the new shit staples.
That's an uphill battle since the band didn't promote their music from 1996-2006 and I get the feeling they were pretty uncomfortable plugging their stuff during the avacado era.
I remember an interview with Ed saying he couldn't find a record shop in europe that had binuaral and riot act and realized the band had withdrawn too much from the spotlight. You can only grow something you water, guys. :-)
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I think they can, but it isn't going to set an arena on fire like the earlier stuff.
I totally agree. Again: set-list was entirely composed of songs I've not heard live. Of course that leaves out the crowd-pleasers like Alive, Betterman, YLB etc. That's I named it the "Selfish Set-List", rather than the set "XCel On Fire Set-List". There's a few rockers sprinkled in there, just not the familiar ones.
There are a lot of tracks from Binaural, Riot Act, S/T that are relevant to a particular time in our recent history. Unfortunately, it seems we didn't learn from our mistakes, and we've found ourselves right back in the same exact situation ~10 years later. I think a lot of these songs might find some traction if they were 'revived' and played alongside Getaway, My Father's Son & Infallible.
To Dirty Frank Z's point, I'd really like to hear Big Wave or Amongst the Waves turned into extended Porch-like jams.
The fade out ending has been a reason why I have trouble getting into the last few albums. The fades outs on Life Wasted and Lightning Bolt are just studio laziness, imo. "Can't think of an ending. Meh, just fade it out, Brendan."
I remember going to watch my friends' band practice. They spent more time trying to figure out the intro/outro than writing the actual verse/chorus of their songs. Starting/stopping song must be the most difficult part. Once everyone locks into the groove, you're golden. The studio fade out seems lazy, and must make it tricky to end a song live.
I, for one, would leave completely overwhelmed by CM's setlist! It's one of those where I'd find myself saying "woooow!" at the beginning of each song! A little more Yield would make it absolutely killer, IMO.
The thing I don't get with the fade outs is if they can end them awesomely in a live setting, why can't they do that in the studio? I've never been a fan of fade endings, so maybe it's just me. hahaha. I love virtually all your songs, PJ, just a gripe on my behalf. :-)
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
I, for one, would leave completely overwhelmed by CM's setlist! It's one of those where I'd find myself saying "woooow!" at the beginning of each song! A little more Yield would make it absolutely killer, IMO.
I, for one, would leave completely overwhelmed by CM's setlist! It's one of those where I'd find myself saying "woooow!" at the beginning of each song! A little more Yield would make it absolutely killer, IMO.
Thx! It was a lot fun. Moving songs around and whatnot. You should try it. I'd love to see what you some up with!
My two cents: you really do need some of those "cornerstone" songs and no, it's not for the casual fans. What too many PJ fans are afraid to admit is that without the big, anthemic, zeppelin-esque stuff (I'm thinking Ten and vs. in particular), the rest of their set would sound really flat. Tremor Christ might be a fun song in theory, but in concert, it's extremely flat, and that's when the band IS playing their hits in the same set list. Relying on TC, Speed of Sound, Oceans etc to carry the energy of the show? Yikes.
No disrespect at all (this is purely a merry hypothetical, right?), but the first five and first encore of CM's set would be, in my opinion, really boring live.
I completely understand wanting less hits, and more b-sides etc. I'm all for that. But I think it's utter lunacy to pretend that a show without PJ's quintessential sound (e.g. Ten, vs. Vitalogy) would be very interesting.
...which of course reinforces what a good frontman EV is. I think he does a great job of putting together a setlist.
1998-06-30 Minneapolis
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2 2018-06-18 London 1 2018-08-18 Wrigley 1 2018-08-20 Wrigley 2 2022-09-16 Nashville 2023-08-31 St. Paul 2023-09-02 St. Paul 2023-09-05 Chicago 1 2024-08-31 Wrigley 2 2024-09-15 Fenway 1 2024-09-27 Ohana 1 2024-09-29 Ohana 2
I just received my hard tickets for the St. Paul show, 'An Evening with Pearl Jam', yes.
2000 - Chicago, IL 2003 - Champaign, IL 2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza 2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2 2010 - St. Louis, MO 2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT 2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK 2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI) 2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2018 - Seattle, WA (Safeco Field 2), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2), Boston, MA (Fenway Park 2)
2020 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, ?? 2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV 2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2024 - Portland, OR and Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2012 - Temple of the Dog East Troy, WI (PJ20 Destination Weekend) 2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2014 - Alice in Chains Davenport, IA
2016 - Chris Cornell Solo Madison, WI and Peoria, IL (official hometown show)
2016 - Temple of the Dog San Francisco, CA (both shows) 2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2018 - Smashing Pumpkins Chicago, IL (first show)
2019 - Alice in Chains Milwaukee, WI
2022 - Jerry Cantrell Chicago, IL 2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
RIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris Cornell
RIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)
Yea, you have to give the people what they want to a sizable degree. They are playing arenas BECAUSE of the songs off the first three albums. To deny these songs from fans would be sort of disrespectful from a casual fan pov.
Ed knows this and probably begins with five to seven "given" or "automatic" songs then adds a few moderately known tunes, rarities and then covers. It's like a recipe sort of.
Thanks again for playing MN, PJ. :-)
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
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Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16
Wrigley - 8/18/18
Wrigley - 8/20/18
St. Louis - 9/18/22
St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23
St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23
Chicago 1 - 9/5/23
Chicago 2 - 9/7/23
Wrigley - 8/29/24
Wrigley - 8/31/24
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
At any rate, I found the time to assemble a dream set-list. Or what I'm referring to as the "Selfish Set-List". I registered with livefootsteps.org and ran my stats. This set-list is totally assembled from album tracks that I've not seen live, that have been performed live. Singles & B-Sides omitted. If you've got Spotify, you can listen here. Comes in at 40 songs. Kind of a sleeper, but good to listen to while I type my day away...
I’m Open
Pendulum
Sometimes
Speed of Sound
Can’t Keep
Let the Records Play
Johnny Guitar
Evacuation
Getaway
Ghost
Rival
Green Disease
Unemployable
Bu$hleaguer
My Father’s Son
Get Right
½ Full
Cropduster
Swallowed Whole
Tremor Christ
Oceans
Amongst the Waves
Big Wave
Encore 1 / Acoustic seated set:
All or None
All Those Yesterdays
Thin Air
Parachutes
Sirens
Sleeping by Myself
The End
Arc
Encore 2:
Soon Forget
Guaranteed
Yellow Moon
Infallible
Gonna See My Friend
Leash
Encore 3:
Inside Job
Nothing As It Seems
Immortality
Not a fan of the first three albums are you!
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
I remember an interview with Ed saying he couldn't find a record shop in europe that had binuaral and riot act and realized the band had withdrawn too much from the spotlight. You can only grow something you water, guys. :-)
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Grow the newer songs into something live. Telling me they can't find room to jam on songs from Riot Act, Avocado, Backspacer or Lightning Bolt?
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
There are a lot of tracks from Binaural, Riot Act, S/T that are relevant to a particular time in our recent history. Unfortunately, it seems we didn't learn from our mistakes, and we've found ourselves right back in the same exact situation ~10 years later. I think a lot of these songs might find some traction if they were 'revived' and played alongside Getaway, My Father's Son & Infallible.
To Dirty Frank Z's point, I'd really like to hear Big Wave or Amongst the Waves turned into extended Porch-like jams.
The fades outs on Life Wasted and Lightning Bolt are just studio laziness, imo. "Can't think of an ending. Meh, just fade it out, Brendan."
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Also, this: http://www.stereogum.com/1682908/every-pharrell-song-starts-the-same-way/news/
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
No disrespect at all (this is purely a merry hypothetical, right?), but the first five and first encore of CM's set would be, in my opinion, really boring live.
I completely understand wanting less hits, and more b-sides etc. I'm all for that. But I think it's utter lunacy to pretend that a show without PJ's quintessential sound (e.g. Ten, vs. Vitalogy) would be very interesting.
...which of course reinforces what a good frontman EV is. I think he does a great job of putting together a setlist.
2003-06-16 St. Paul
2006-06-26 St. Paul
2007-08-05 Chicago
2009-08-23 Chicago
2009-08-28 San Francisco
2010-05-01 NOLA (Jazz Fest)
2011-07-02 EV Minneapolis
2011-09-03 PJ20
2011-09-04 PJ20
2011-09-17 Winnipeg
2012-06-26 Amsterdam
2012-06-27 Amsterdam
2013-07-19 Wrigley
2013-11-21 San Diego
2013-11-23 Los Angeles
2013-11-24 Los Angeles
2014-07-08 Leeds, UK
2014-07-11 Milton Keynes, UK
2014-10-09 Lincoln
2014-10-19 St. Paul
2014-10-20 Milwaukee
2016-08-20 Wrigley 1
2016-08-22 Wrigley 2
2018-06-18 London 1
2018-08-18 Wrigley 1
2018-08-20 Wrigley 2
2022-09-16 Nashville
2023-08-31 St. Paul
2023-09-02 St. Paul
2023-09-05 Chicago 1
2024-08-31 Wrigley 2
2024-09-15 Fenway 1
2024-09-27 Ohana 1
2024-09-29 Ohana 2
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
Ed knows this and probably begins with five to seven "given" or "automatic" songs then adds a few moderately known tunes, rarities and then covers. It's like a recipe sort of.
Thanks again for playing MN, PJ. :-)
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert