The PLAY MINNESOTA Thread!

vant0037

evenflow82 wrote:

I call BS on that. None of those dates work with other events already scheduled. Also, why would the band play cities four months after they just played them?

finally, we would have heard the inevitable, "My friend works at this venue and heard...." rumors already. Complete fake info.

The sentiment remains the same. Play Minnesota, pearl jam!!!

I agree.

But here's one idea I've kicked around with myself (and dismissed, only to resurrect it a few days later):

What if 2014 is the return of the super tour for the band? I know I know, their touring history over the last 6 years suggests otherwise, but what if Lightning Bolt is different? What if they truly intended all along to really promote the hell out of this thing? What if the band really is as rejuvenated as they sound live and on the new album? The most curious possibility: what if Matt's hiatus really is an indication that they will be touring - a lot?

Maybe not 70 dates, but what about 30-40 total? Is that so unbelievable? As far as I can tell, they're booked through February 2, 2014. That's all we know. It's possible that Europe will get shows, so maybe block out June and July (that's their recent history over there). Would Matt really take an entire year off from Soundgarden for only 3 months of shows?

Fuck. This is getting exciting...

AndySlash

yeah, beerbarons toronto rumor thread from last night got my attention and piqued my excitement. damn rumors...

someone in that thread hoped for bonnaroo, too, which would be most excellent. however, it occurred to me that were a midwest tour to happen, there may be a possibility they would hit up mpls/st. paul just before or after the fest, meaning a possibility that i wouldn't be able to go because of the travel aspect. man, would that suck.

vant0037

AndySlash wrote:

yeah, beerbarons toronto rumor thread from last night got my attention and piqued my excitement. damn rumors...

someone in that thread hoped for bonnaroo, too, which would be most excellent. however, it occurred to me that were a midwest tour to happen, there may be a possibility they would hit up mpls/st. paul just before or after the fest, meaning a possibility that i wouldn't be able to go because of the travel aspect. man, would that suck.

The one thing I would say about Bonnaroo is that, while I could be wrong, outside of Europe they don't tend to repeat festivals often. They've done Jazz Fest once, Outside Lands Fest once, Lollapalooza once (not including 90s stuff), Bonnaroo once. Would they go again?

Hope so, because that means a 2014 US tour...

CM189191

vant0037 wrote:

AndySlash wrote:

yeah, beerbarons toronto rumor thread from last night got my attention and piqued my excitement. damn rumors...

someone in that thread hoped for bonnaroo, too, which would be most excellent. however, it occurred to me that were a midwest tour to happen, there may be a possibility they would hit up mpls/st. paul just before or after the fest, meaning a possibility that i wouldn't be able to go because of the travel aspect. man, would that suck.

The one thing I would say about Bonnaroo is that, while I could be wrong, outside of Europe they don't tend to repeat festivals often. They've done Jazz Fest once, Outside Lands Fest once, Lollapalooza once (not including 90s stuff), Bonnaroo once. Would they go again?

Hope so, because that means a 2014 US tour...

I hope for no more festival shows, too!

Unfortunately, it's my understanding festivals are easy money for bands. Headliners get a big chunk of cash to play a shortened set. And they don't have to pay as much $$$ to set up their equipment since most of the stage/lights/sound are already in place.

That said, I think Chicago's been pretty spoiled lately. I'm hoping they skip Chicago this time around and do 2 night stands in Milwaukee/St Paul/Denver to make up for shortened sets we got when they opened for Tom Petty. Don't get me wrong - those were great shows!

Maybe a return to Summerfest & Red Rocks?!

vant0037

So February 2014 is out. Ed solo shows in Australia.

CM189191

vant0037 wrote:

So February 2014 is out. Ed solo shows in Australia.

hmph....didn't see that coming!

Dirty Frank Z

I feel out of the loop.

So, I'll jump right in. ...

I don't understand or believe in the idea that Pearl Jam doesn't do big tours anymore. Just because they haven't doesn't mean 2014 wont be the year they do decide to tour the hell out of the US. I mean, it's kind of how they make a living. It's up to them. Other big, older bands (Petty, Springsteen, the Rolling goddamn Stones) have toured the hell out of one album after being a band 20+ years. Why not PJ?

Also, just watched Fargo.

Play MN. Go Bears!

Out of My Mind and Time

Dirty Frank Z wrote:

Play MN. Go Bears!

:thumbup:

AndySlash

vant0037 wrote:

Bonnaroo- Would they go again?

i have to think they would IF they wanted to. bonnaroo would certainly have them back, as bands like radiohead, dave matthews, and phish have all done the repeat headliner thing. pretty sure pearl jam have doubled up on some of the euro fests, so it's not unprecedented for them- it just hasn't happened in the us.

AndySlash

speaking of dave matthews, i believe our good friend cardoso is going to the show in porto alegre this evening.

CM189191

CM189191 wrote:

vant0037 wrote:

So February 2014 is out. Ed solo shows in Australia.

hmph....didn't see that coming!

I mean, this opens up a whole 'nother bag of worms!

PJ plays MN late summer/fall. Then EV returns next winter/spring for solo shows?

I'm guessing he'll play Papa Charlie's...

evenflow82

The band and Ed seem to be booking places right and left...but still no MN. :x

As for the band really touring hard, I just don't buy it. They play where they want and when they want, which for the last decade or so has been few places and few times.

Getting five people with families who would rather be doing something else in the same room at the same time is like herding cats.

Dirty Frank Z

evenflow82 wrote:

The band and Ed seem to be booking places right and left...but still no MN. :x

As for the band really touring hard, I just don't buy it. They play where they want and when they want, which for the last decade or so has been few places and few times.

Getting five people with families who would rather be doing something else in the same room at the same time is like herding cats.

A bit of a stretch. :shock:

vant0037

You did not have to be at a show this year to see that the band is having fun again...

evenflow82

I think it's a lot harder for the band to play gigs now than it ever has been. I remember reading an interview where Stone said something along the lines of, "We don't play any more shows than what we want to play." If the last almost ten years shows us anything, it's that the band doesn't want to play many shows.

Maybe I'm off and putting too much stock in his statement, but the question asked was why the band plays so few shows....

AndySlash

vant0037 wrote:

Let's talk Pearl Jam. What are your show "weird stats?"

sweet. i love setlist nerd stuff.

i'll keep your format since we have a lot in common and i can just save my fingers from typing what you already done did.



1. Covers - 53 unique covers seen. I saw the last time they played "My Generation" (6/30/98 MPLS, MN). The most covers I've seen in a show is 7 (7 of 24 songs, Boston I, 2004). I've seen all of the Pink Floyd covers they do twice over (and all in one show!). I've seen "Whip It" (once, 1x only), "I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts" (once, 2x total), "The Needle and The Damage Done" (once, 3x total), "Here's To the State of Mississippi" (once, 3x total), "Public Image" (once, 7x total), "Bleed For Me" (once, 8x total), "Driven To Tears" (twice, 12x total), and, wait for it, "Happy Birthday" (twice, 7x total)!

2. States- I've seen them in 10 states (CA 6x, IL 5x, KS 1x, MA 1x, MN 4x, MT 1x, ND 1x, PA 1x, TN 1x, WI 2x).

3. Countries - I've seen them in 2 countries (Canada, USA).

4. Months - I've seen PJ in the following months (May: 3 times, June: 6 times, July: 4 times, August: 2 times, September: 6 times, October 1 times, November 3 times).

5. Albums - I've seen live: 100% of Ten (11 of 11), 100% of Vs. (12 of 12), 79% of Vitalogy (11 of 14, 3 of which have never been played), 92% of No Code (12 of 13), 100% of Yield (12 of 13), 77% of Binaural (10 of 13), 80% of Riot Act (12 of 15), 92% of self-titled/Avocado (12 of 13), 82% of Backspacer (9 of 11), 92% of Lightning Bolt (11 of 12), and 43% of Lost Dogs (13 of 30).

6. Rarities (originals, <=10x played) - All The Way (played 2x total, seen once), Bugs (played 3x total, seen twice), Hold On (played 4x total, seen once), Sweet Lew (played 2x, seen once), In The Moonlight (played 2x total, seen once), Education (played 7x total, seen twice), Help Help (played 10x, seen twice), Speed of Sound (played 5x total, seen twice), I'm Open (played 9x total, seen twice), Arc (played 9x total, seen once), Out of My Mind (played 3x, seen once)

7. Openers - 17 unique openers. The "rarest" opener I've seen is Arc (Fargo). I've gotten Release 5x, Oceans 2x, Why Go 2x, Pendulum 2x, Of the Girl 2x, 12 songs at 1x each (Present Tense, Betterman, Worldwide Suicide, Interstellar Corduroy, Last Exit, Severed Hand, Hard To Imagine, Long Road, Wash, Elderly Woman, Sometimes, Arc).

8. Closers - 8 unique closers. The "rarest" closer I've seen is All Along the Watchtower (Bonnaroo). I've gotten YL 10x, RITFW 7x, Alive 2x, Indifference 2x, All Along the Watchtower 1x, Kick Out The Jams 1x, Porch 1x, Baba O'Riley 1x.

9. Seats - I've been all over. I think I tend to get Mike's side.

evenflow82

I can't even remember all the stats and I've only been to ten shows.

evenflow82

It's a heat wave in MN...18 degree high today!

AndySlash

evenflow82 wrote:

It's a heat wave in MN...18 degree high today!

man, with the way it's been it feels like it's 50 out. t-shirt weather!

mr.mac

If PJ plays Minnesota in 2014 will this thread die or will it just continue on in preparation of them coming back in 2015 and beyond?