Not even remotely close to how sick his crimes were. And if he's worried or anxious over his fate... his anxiety is not even in the same hemisphere as his victims' was during his reign of terror.
That being said: there's likely a better way to send him where he needs to go. Use Plan B, but for gawds sakes... enough oatmeal and scrambled eggs for breakfast coupled with a laundry service and Netflix.
This guy's living the life in federal prison! The guy makes cash, watches sitcoms and movies, stays in touch with his kids, and follows politics. His victims have decomposed by now, but how lovely for him!
Having followed the last couple of death penalty matters out there, its got me scratching my head. Especially the one last night, if Im reading things right there was a refusal to have a hearing at every juncture on the guys mental disability because it wasnt raised at the right time. Overwhelming evidence that the guy was a very very uneducated and childlike man in terms of his capacity, and they killed him regardless.
Biden may just be the breath of fresh air needed to stop these horrible occurences
Convicted murderer executed in Arkansas and now someone else's DNA calls the conviction into question. But, you know, a small price to pay to get that sweet retribution.
I don't know whether he did it or not. But this can obviously happen...
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Convicted murderer executed in Arkansas and now someone else's DNA calls the conviction into question. But, you know, a small price to pay to get that sweet retribution.
Well, because you know, the method wouldn’t make anyone a little bit concerned, knowing history and all? Why not just transport them from death row to the gas chamber in a cattle car?
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So the 8th attempt to execute Richard Glossip approaches next month, 8th date. That is just plainly absurd.
So we have no evidence as to his guilt, only circumstantial evidence and the testimony of a confessed murderer who offered said testimony to spare his own life.
I appreciate there is a little more to it, however having read the case and the evidence available, and the views of hard line death penalty proponents who believe it is plainly wrong, not to mention the documents now presented by Richard's legal team is it me or is it absolutely batshit crazy that it is all going to come down again to the plea for clemency? Is this really 2023?
So, maybe we should just move on to cranes in Walmart parking lots, lifting them by their neck until dead and having the local sheriff round up the spectators, eh? A la Iran?
Or maybe, just maybe, that old, abandoned race track or airfield with grandstands can be repurposed? You know? Gangnam style? Like Little Rocket Man with a 105mm howitzer? Right? Neck and face tats bring out the lust, yo!
Now, let’s do the fucking maths, shall we? 20% = 0, yo! But not really, maybe it’s “a few”? Maybe it’s “a couple”? Maybe it has something to do with fishing and whether you have friends? Or not? Maybe it’s just slang for the majority is for, opposed, or has moved on? But sure, scroll on by as you YELL. But do the maths, whether it’s “nobody” or 3% to 20% and show your work, yo!
And if face and neck tattoos and trans surgery paid by taxpayers gets you so triggered, maybe get yourself “death qualified” and send pics, please.
Turtle, help us all from ourselves, hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……
U.S. reaches 1,600 executions since death penalty was reinstated
Alan Eugene Miller’s execution was the fifth in the last week, drawing national scrutiny to convictions and execution processes.
The United States reached a grim milestone Thursday for opponents of the death penalty.
The milestone has been a particularly sobering reflection point for death penalty researchers and those who advocate for abolition. But the 1,600 tally is a data point that may not tell the whole story, said Robin M. Maher, the executive director of the nonpartisan Death Penalty Information Center.
“The issue with executions is that they’re always a lagging indicator,” Maher said. “They measure past attitudes about the death penalty and decisions jurors made many years ago that are not reflective of what we’re seeing in public opinion today.”
Since 1976, considered the start of the “modern era” of the death penalty when the U.S. Supreme Court allowed most state executions to resume, the death penalty saw a quarter-century boom followed by another quarter-century of steady decline.
The death penalty peaked in 1999 with 279 death sentences and 98 executions, according to data tracked by the DPIC. By the end of 2023, there were 21 new death sentences and 24 executions. These days, the annual tally of executions are driven by just a handful of states, including Florida and Texas. In 35 states, the death penalty has either been abolished or not used in more than a decade.
To Maher and other researchers, the most telling data point that indicates the American public’s true feelings on the death penalty are the number of new death sentences, which has dropped sharply.
These jurors who are called to serve must be death-qualified — they have to agree they’d be willing to sentence someone to death to sit on the jury in the first place,” Maher added. “Importantly, when jurors are asked if someone should live or die, they’re answering that death is not appropriate.”
The cluster of executions this past week drew national scrutiny to the death penalty. All five of the cases raised varying issues that have long concerned abolition advocates, including executions that were allowed to proceed despite strong claims of innocence and methods that might be unconstitutionally cruel and unusual.
Miller, convicted of murder in a 1999 workplace shooting spree, was executed Thursday evening in Alabama with a nitrogen gas method that has only been used once before. The Associated Press reported that Miller trembled on the gurney for about two minutes, followed by about six minutes of gasping breathing. During the nitrogen gas execution of Kenneth Eugene Smith in January, Smith was conscious for several minutes before violently thrashing and heaving while tied to a gurney with an improvised mask strapped to his face, according to reporters who witnessed the execution.
Problems with death penalty convictions and executions that have gone unchanged for decades are slowly proving to be the death penalty’s undoing, according to Jim and Nancy Petro, advisory board members of the National Registry of Exonerations and co-authors of the book “False Justice: Eight Myths that Convict the Innocent.”
Jim Petro, a Republican former Ohio state lawmaker and former state attorney general, said he began his career a supporter of death penalty legislation.
“I thought, ‘This is appropriate. People committed these wicked crimes, and this punishment, as accorded by law, is appropriate punishment,'” he said.
The biggest shift for Petro came when he became involved in the case of Clarence Elkins, a man who was convicted of murder and rape but later exonerated with the help of DNA evidence. Though Elkins was never on death row, his exoneration was eye-opening for Petro.
“It made me realize the system wasn’t 100 percent perfect,” he said.
Death penalty experts say fear of wrongful convictions is one of the key reasons people do not support the death penalty. Since 1973, at least 200 people on death row have been exonerated, according to the DPIC.
More than half of those exonerees are Black, a data point that Nancy Petro said shows the death penalty is highly susceptible to racial bias.
The United States has a long history of respecting the finality of a jury’s decision, Nancy Petro said, but 200 death row exonerations reveal the fallibility of jury verdicts.
“We all think jurors make the right decision for the most part,” she said. “But what we’ve learned is that jurors aren’t always prepared to always discriminate between valid and invalid evidence.”
Antoinette Jones in Oklahoma said the 1,600th execution milestone felt “gut-wrenching.”
The milestone would have been reached sooner had things gone another way for her brother, Julius Jones, whose death sentence was commuted to life in prison just hours before his scheduled execution in 2021.
While Antoinette Jones is appreciative of efforts to improve how the death penalty is used — to make it fairer, less arbitrary and less error-prone — none of those efforts can change the fatal flaw of what she said is its inhumanity.
“You can’t humanely execute somebody,” Jones said. “That’s just not a reality.”
i thought this thread was closed. i looked for it a few nights ago when missouri executed an innocent man.
Glossip's case is in front of the Supreme Court next month......
Having appointed an advisor clearly hell bent on executing the man, who has already expressed it doesnt matter if he is innocent as the system has ruled otherwise, its a worry that his fate is already sealed.
However having AG Drummond openly backing a retrial and insisting that the state must not proceed with the execution is in itself unprecedented.
The attitude of two of the Justices presiding over the case currently before SCROTUS is genuinely jaw droppingly frightening/terrifying
They are seriously more concerned about the reputation of prosecutors than the value of a potentially innocent man. It is in simple terms unreconcilable
Admittedly, I was not familiar with this case. A quick look tells me not only that the death penalty can kill a potentially innocent person* but that some people are genuinely gleeful about that. And that Clarence Thomas has no soul.
*I don't have enough history to know if Glossip is guilty but I do know that prosecutors appear to have put their thumb on the scale in order to get the "win" and rushing a guy to the chair is not the right approach.
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Admittedly, I was not familiar with this case. A quick look tells me not only that the death penalty can kill a potentially innocent person* but that some people are genuinely gleeful about that. And that Clarence Thomas has no soul.
*I don't have enough history to know if Glossip is guilty but I do know that prosecutors appear to have put their thumb on the scale in order to get the "win" and rushing a guy to the chair is not the right approach.
Yeah I have been invested in Richards case for a good 14 years or more and its been a hell of a journey - that fact he is still alive is a miracle. Sadly some are hell bent in stopping his chest.
the fact Richard had the balls to maintain his innocence and not take a deal for life inside could ultimately be his downfall. Its an incredibly fucked up situation, that if it was happening in any other country those in power in the states would be shouting from the rooftops.
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Not even remotely close to how sick his crimes were. And if he's worried or anxious over his fate... his anxiety is not even in the same hemisphere as his victims' was during his reign of terror.
That being said: there's likely a better way to send him where he needs to go. Use Plan B, but for gawds sakes... enough oatmeal and scrambled eggs for breakfast coupled with a laundry service and Netflix.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/convicted-murderer-drew-peterson-says-hes-living-the-dream-in-prison/ar-BBVEWjG?ocid=spartanntp
Bottom line (it's a common theme): a fate far too great for him given what he did.
https://trib.al/8Ys7GKB?fbclid=IwAR0dykt-JWw3izGBUeZH03lsP7BjY-xaukkaG21-ayuJNJdlUMeQmaoTy6U
She can fucking go...Evil bitch...who the fuck would do that to a child should see the gallows...
ITV played 'The End' at the time they were outsdie the chamber and the guy was taking his last breath. The song seemed extremely appropriate.
Well worth a watch anyway, and just struck me as PJ never feature on shows in the UK.
How on earth is that guy still in prison? That is complete bullshit.
OKC are now trying to have an appropriate gas mask created to use nitrogen gas after failing to source anything suitable so far.......absolute joke.
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not to be outdone, alabama is bringing back the guillotine, and florida is bringing back the catherine wheel.
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So we have no evidence as to his guilt, only circumstantial evidence and the testimony of a confessed murderer who offered said testimony to spare his own life.
I appreciate there is a little more to it, however having read the case and the evidence available, and the views of hard line death penalty proponents who believe it is plainly wrong, not to mention the documents now presented by Richard's legal team is it me or is it absolutely batshit crazy that it is all going to come down again to the plea for clemency? Is this really 2023?
Or maybe, just maybe, that old, abandoned race track or airfield with grandstands can be repurposed? You know? Gangnam style? Like Little Rocket Man with a 105mm howitzer? Right? Neck and face tats bring out the lust, yo!
Now, let’s do the fucking maths, shall we? 20% = 0, yo! But not really, maybe it’s “a few”? Maybe it’s “a couple”? Maybe it has something to do with fishing and whether you have friends? Or not? Maybe it’s just slang for the majority is for, opposed, or has moved on? But sure, scroll on by as you YELL. But do the maths, whether it’s “nobody” or 3% to 20% and show your work, yo!
And if face and neck tattoos and trans surgery paid by taxpayers gets you so triggered, maybe get yourself “death qualified” and send pics, please.
Turtle, help us all from ourselves, hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……
U.S. reaches 1,600 executions since death penalty was reinstated
Alan Eugene Miller’s execution was the fifth in the last week, drawing national scrutiny to convictions and execution processes.
The United States reached a grim milestone Thursday for opponents of the death penalty.
Alan Eugene Miller was executed byAlabama’s controversial new nitrogen gas method. Miller’s death marks the fifth execution in the nation in the past week and the United States’ 1,600th in the modern era.
The milestone has been a particularly sobering reflection point for death penalty researchers and those who advocate for abolition. But the 1,600 tally is a data point that may not tell the whole story, said Robin M. Maher, the executive director of the nonpartisan Death Penalty Information Center.
“The issue with executions is that they’re always a lagging indicator,” Maher said. “They measure past attitudes about the death penalty and decisions jurors made many years ago that are not reflective of what we’re seeing in public opinion today.”
Since 1976, considered the start of the “modern era” of the death penalty when the U.S. Supreme Court allowed most state executions to resume, the death penalty saw a quarter-century boom followed by another quarter-century of steady decline.
The death penalty peaked in 1999 with 279 death sentences and 98 executions, according to data tracked by the DPIC. By the end of 2023, there were 21 new death sentences and 24 executions. These days, the annual tally of executions are driven by just a handful of states, including Florida and Texas. In 35 states, the death penalty has either been abolished or not used in more than a decade.
To Maher and other researchers, the most telling data point that indicates the American public’s true feelings on the death penalty are the number of new death sentences, which has dropped sharply.
These jurors who are called to serve must be death-qualified — they have to agree they’d be willing to sentence someone to death to sit on the jury in the first place,” Maher added. “Importantly, when jurors are asked if someone should live or die, they’re answering that death is not appropriate.”
The cluster of executions this past week drew national scrutiny to the death penalty. All five of the cases raised varying issues that have long concerned abolition advocates, including executions that were allowed to proceed despite strong claims of innocence and methods that might be unconstitutionally cruel and unusual.
Last Friday in South Carolina, Freddie Owens was executed only days after a key prosecution witness said he had lied on the stand decades earlier. On Tuesday, Travis Mullis was executed in Texas after giving up his appeals in what he referred to as “assisted suicide.”That same day, Marcellus Williams was executed in Missouri even though prosecutors from the office that convicted him admitted to errors in his case and joined the fight to free him from death row. Thursday morning, Oklahoma executed Emmanuel Littlejohn despite the state’s pardon and parole board recommending clemency.
Miller, convicted of murder in a 1999 workplace shooting spree, was executed Thursday evening in Alabama with a nitrogen gas method that has only been used once before. The Associated Press reported that Miller trembled on the gurney for about two minutes, followed by about six minutes of gasping breathing. During the nitrogen gas execution of Kenneth Eugene Smith in January, Smith was conscious for several minutes before violently thrashing and heaving while tied to a gurney with an improvised mask strapped to his face, according to reporters who witnessed the execution.
Problems with death penalty convictions and executions that have gone unchanged for decades are slowly proving to be the death penalty’s undoing, according to Jim and Nancy Petro, advisory board members of the National Registry of Exonerations and co-authors of the book “False Justice: Eight Myths that Convict the Innocent.”
Jim Petro, a Republican former Ohio state lawmaker and former state attorney general, said he began his career a supporter of death penalty legislation.
“I thought, ‘This is appropriate. People committed these wicked crimes, and this punishment, as accorded by law, is appropriate punishment,'” he said.
The biggest shift for Petro came when he became involved in the case of Clarence Elkins, a man who was convicted of murder and rape but later exonerated with the help of DNA evidence. Though Elkins was never on death row, his exoneration was eye-opening for Petro.
“It made me realize the system wasn’t 100 percent perfect,” he said.
Death penalty experts say fear of wrongful convictions is one of the key reasons people do not support the death penalty. Since 1973, at least 200 people on death row have been exonerated, according to the DPIC.
More than half of those exonerees are Black, a data point that Nancy Petro said shows the death penalty is highly susceptible to racial bias.
The United States has a long history of respecting the finality of a jury’s decision, Nancy Petro said, but 200 death row exonerations reveal the fallibility of jury verdicts.
“We all think jurors make the right decision for the most part,” she said. “But what we’ve learned is that jurors aren’t always prepared to always discriminate between valid and invalid evidence.”
Antoinette Jones in Oklahoma said the 1,600th execution milestone felt “gut-wrenching.”
The milestone would have been reached sooner had things gone another way for her brother, Julius Jones, whose death sentence was commuted to life in prison just hours before his scheduled execution in 2021.
While Antoinette Jones is appreciative of efforts to improve how the death penalty is used — to make it fairer, less arbitrary and less error-prone — none of those efforts can change the fatal flaw of what she said is its inhumanity.
“You can’t humanely execute somebody,” Jones said. “That’s just not a reality.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/26/executions-death-penalty-alan-eugene-miller-emmanuel-littlejohn/
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Having appointed an advisor clearly hell bent on executing the man, who has already expressed it doesnt matter if he is innocent as the system has ruled otherwise, its a worry that his fate is already sealed.
However having AG Drummond openly backing a retrial and insisting that the state must not proceed with the execution is in itself unprecedented.
https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/richard-glossip-execution-supreme-court-oklahoma-death-row-rcna166928
They are seriously more concerned about the reputation of prosecutors than the value of a potentially innocent man. It is in simple terms unreconcilable
*I don't have enough history to know if Glossip is guilty but I do know that prosecutors appear to have put their thumb on the scale in order to get the "win" and rushing a guy to the chair is not the right approach.
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