**** Toronto 2 Fanviews Here 9/12/11 ****

Lindsay

PeterED wrote:

Lindsay wrote:

I was the one ejected in tears right at the end... I was so beyond angry!!

Which row were you in? I was in 21 right on the aisle and security was really on a few people ahead of us also on the aisle.

Right aisle of 13th row centre - when facing the stage. Security had to lie to the cops saying I was 'belligerent, intentionally defiant of their orders, and looking at them and flipping them the bird' everytime they looked over. Really?! I think I had other things on my mind than trying to piss off security. It was ridiculous... I've never seen anything like it! We were all just trying to enjoy the show...

PillowPants

brunobell wrote:

Hahaha, I never checked. I think it was the second one he threw (the first one over his head, backwards to nobody). So I don't think it was one of the ones with blood on it.

But yea, I'm sure some psycho WOULD pay top dollar for that. But it would mean more to us...

i saw the second one literally just slam off a crate behind the stage. wonder who ended up with that?

you could bring it to a preparty and let people become blood brothers with ed for a fee $$$... for charity of course

Lukin of the Hour

Absolutely incredible....there are no words to explain the events...both nights, incredible st lists, great friends, and amazing music.

Eraserhead

Lindsay wrote:

Eraserhead wrote:

Following up the previous night was going to be tough, but this was a cracking set. Really enjoyed my stay in Toronoto!

There were some people being ejected by security from the floor near the end. one guy had 3 security people forcibly remove him. Anyone know why? seems abit OTT for smoking (if that's what he was doing). also, some girl got ejected right at the end too and was in tears. :?

I was the one ejected in tears right at the end... I was so beyond angry!! To be in the fan club for 15 years, attending my 15th Pearl Jam show and to be escorted out by the cops for having a foot in the aisle... ClIfton the security guard is lucky I didn't attack him! I laugh now, since he was such an overzealous, power hungry douchebag that it's kinda funny... But I really don't think I've ever been that angry in my life! Security's job is to keep the crowd safe and controlled, not to be fun nazis! Yes, I was a "repeat offender" but where I'm standing is the last place I'm looking when my focus is on the stage! And really?! The last song?! I'm just thankful that it was the last song and Cornell didn't walk out as I was being escorted out!

Here's to hoping there Ottawa is a bit more relaxed tonight!

People on power trips suck. Damn. Sucks to see that kind of thing at a gig and glad you're OK. :thumbup:

oona left

Are there any videos of "Ole"?

So many people commented that it was great live (which I certainly believe).

mattmarv

Just amazing. Show 6 for my wife and I. Got tix that afternoon at 3:30 on Ticketmaster 5th row side stage, Stones side, right behind Ed's wife. It was cool when Ed used his guitar to reflect the spot light right at her for a second and then see the little grin he gave her after. She seemed to be having a good time, which i'm sure he's happy about.

People complain so much on songs being repeated and so on. We've been to many other concerts before by other bands, and I would never have gone to back to back nights to hear them like we just did for PJ. We as fans, no matter how many times we've seen them, from once to 30+ should ever complain. They so totally accomodate us it's ridiculous. They could just cash it in but they really seem to show that they are interested in pleasing everyone there.

Can't wait to see them again.

http://flic.kr/ps/22Hc29

satanman

Lindsay wrote:

PeterED wrote:

Lindsay wrote:

I was the one ejected in tears right at the end... I was so beyond angry!!

Which row were you in? I was in 21 right on the aisle and security was really on a few people ahead of us also on the aisle.

Right aisle of 13th row centre - when facing the stage. Security had to lie to the cops saying I was 'belligerent, intentionally defiant of their orders, and looking at them and flipping them the bird' everytime they looked over. Really?! I think I had other things on my mind than trying to piss off security. It was ridiculous... I've never seen anything like it! We were all just trying to enjoy the show...

I brought a date to the show and security wouln't let us in because she tripped just as she was going inside the ACC. They were oh you can't get in because your intoxicated. What a fucking bunch of loosers. Needless to say my night was ruined and only got to see 4 songs

Tully305

Security was ridiculous all night (we were right by Mikes dad). They threw a couple out three songs in for taking pictures. One guy accosted the bass player for Mudhoney when he and Mark Arm were sitting in are area to watch the show. Yet, they did nothing to the drunk asshole who kept dancin up and down the stairs.

cinnamon_girl_jax

Jack Straw wrote:

Pretty disappointed actually... 6 repeats from night 1 plus "Last Kiss". But my real complaint is not a single song from "Riot Act" or "Pearl Jam" between the two nights. I just don't get how you can completely neglect those albums while repeating so many songs over a two night run in a city. The fact that yesterday was so amazing could be contributing to my disappointment as well... I mean, how do you top that? Just my two cents though, which is worth about exactly that. I heard plenty of people saying what a great show it was. Still the greatest band on Earth. As for the security, I got into it with one guy during "Yellow Ledbetter" because he made a 5 year old kid get off of a guys shoulders. This poor kid probably couldn't see shit the whole night and the guy in front of him was nice enough to put him up at the end and this dick comes and ruins it.

Another amazing Pearl Jam show, loved the setlist, I agree that it would have been nice to hear some off those albums but regardless it was a great night! This was my 14th show but it was my sons 1st. He was the boy that the very kind man in front of us held on his shoulders. Security was brutal but I have always said that Pearl Jam fans are the best and Monday night did nothing but prove me right. Every single person we saw either gave him a high five or a fist bump. We were in row 20 and everyone around us did everything they could to make sure he could see and made sure he had a great time. Proud to say he made it through the whole show and he loved the concert. Also, never been more proud to be a part of the group that is Pearl Jam fans, I want to say thank you to all the amazing people we met that night. You all came to see an amazing show and you all took the time to make sure his experience was a great one! He's wanted to go for a while and I know that this will not be his last show! Thank you all so much!

Barrie /98, Toronto /00, Toronto /03, Buffalo /03, Kitchener /05, Hamilton /05, Toronto /05, Toronto 1 & 2 /06, EV Toronto/08, Toronto /09, Vancouver /09, Buffalo /10, Toronto/11

Cinnamon Girl

sharptoe wrote:

Couple of quick pics that I took:

I'm gonna steal this one for my fb pic (I wont take credit for its awesomeness)...Seriously, great shots!!! thanks!

redpoint

My thoughts on the show:

-PJ was great! Awesome to hear Light Years, I got Shit, Present Tense, and Up in my Tree.

-I'm from the states and everyone in Canada was super nice!

-Am I the only one who thought Mudhoney was terrible? Part of me respects that they were an original band from that era of the Seattle music scene and they haven't changed their sound... but the majority of me thinks they haven't grown at all as muscians and turn their amps up way to loud to compensate for crappy music. Every song sounded like each person in the band was playing a different song...

-This was my first 10C show, I joined just over a year ago despite being a fan from early on (I litterally bought Ten the day it was released and have loved everything since). I think I'm done with the whole 10C thing because it's been a poor experience pretty much the whole way through. Obviously my number is pretty high so I didn't expect front row seats, but I got section 120 which was on the side near the back of the arena. I paid my $20 to be a member, spent hours online dealing with server crashes then had to use ticketmaster the next day anyhow to get the 10C tickets, waited over an hour in a ridiculous will call line that was poorly managed, then got mediocre seats... I saw quite a few other disappointed faces walking away from the will call windows as well. All in all, I definitely won't stop loving PJ's music, but the 10C thing is pretty ridiculous. I'm hearing that people were still able to get tickets 5 rows back the same day of the show on ticketmaster...

kid canada

redpoint wrote:

-This was my first 10C show, I joined just over a year ago despite being a fan from early on (I litterally bought Ten the day it was released and have loved everything since). I think I'm done with the whole 10C thing because it's been a poor experience pretty much the whole way through. Obviously my number is pretty high so I didn't expect front row seats, but I got section 120 which was on the side near the back of the arena. I paid my $20 to be a member, spent hours online dealing with server crashes then had to use ticketmaster the next day anyhow to get the 10C tickets, waited over an hour in a ridiculous will call line that was poorly managed, then got mediocre seats... I saw quite a few other disappointed faces walking away from the will call windows as well. All in all, I definitely won't stop loving PJ's music, but the 10C thing is pretty ridiculous. I'm hearing that people were still able to get tickets 5 rows back the same day of the show on ticketmaster...

1. The server was a disaster for tickets this year but it's never been that bad in the past.

2. The arena holds back tickets for every show for VIPs, season ticket holders, the Queen (in Canada, that's actually true) and then if they don't get claimed they release them later on. That's not 10c's fault, that happens at every venue for any show.

3. Toronto had a TON of Ten Club fan seats, way more than at most shows. I'm sure people thought they'd be closer than they were in some circumstances. If you only signed up this year I'm sure they weren't the 15th row floors you were hoping for. That's not what's promised. You get access before they go on sale to the general public. You weren't sitting in the nosebleeds. You didn't pay a premium for tickets or have to hammer Ticketmaster with the general public onsale.

4. The Will Call line was also managed by the venue, not 10c itself. You may have noticed the guy in an Air Canada Centre shirt who was incredulous that having one window for everyone from N-Z in the alphabet was stupid.

5. Enjoy fighting with the general public for tickets the next time around.

rebornFixer

Re. Mudhoney:

Haven't heard Mudhoney yet this tour, but I think one of the things that makes PJ stand apart from the other "Seattle scene" bands is their ability to embrace subtlety and intricate textures in their music. Jazz it ain't, but there is a decent degree of technical competence. Steve Turner is actually a great guitarist but this is not apparent live, and Mudhoney is a loud, messy wall of sound in the live setting. Its fun, but does become old.

blueandwhite

redpoint wrote:

I saw quite a few other disappointed faces walking away from the will call windows as well. All in all, I definitely won't stop loving PJ's music, but the 10C thing is pretty ridiculous. I'm hearing that people were still able to get tickets 5 rows back the same day of the show on ticketmaster...

That happens a lot at larger venues. From what I understand, it would have been far worse in Boston, Philly or NY. The 10c doesn't guarantee you the best seats in the house, but you aren't stuck in the nosebleeds either. Before you abandon your membership, I would give a smaller city a go. The Crowds may not be as intense but you will probably move up considerably. People headed out to tonight's Ottawa show are reporting significant movement because of the lower fan club turnout. If there is a US tour next year, pick a smaller city and throw chance to the win. If that fails, there's always the lottery (10c lottery that is).

dimitrispearljam

noahm wrote:

Adam....you saw this????/????/third time for me,Oceans was in the setlist and they didnt play it.. :(

Stoneman21

blueandwhite wrote:

redpoint wrote:

I saw quite a few other disappointed faces walking away from the will call windows as well. All in all, I definitely won't stop loving PJ's music, but the 10C thing is pretty ridiculous. I'm hearing that people were still able to get tickets 5 rows back the same day of the show on ticketmaster...

That happens a lot at larger venues. From what I understand, it would have been far worse in Boston, Philly or NY. The 10c doesn't guarantee you the best seats in the house, but you aren't stuck in the nosebleeds either. Before you abandon your membership, I would give a smaller city a go. The Crowds may not be as intense but you will probably move up considerably. People headed out to tonight's Ottawa show are reporting significant movement because of the lower fan club turnout. If there is a US tour next year, pick a smaller city and throw chance to the win. If that fails, there's always the lottery (10c lottery that is).

I agree....I wouldn't panic or abandon ship just yet. Honestly, there are so many 10C members, I don't know why you think 120 is really that bad in a city like Toronto. I got 107 row 6 night one and I like you am a lifetime fan who only became 10C 2 years ago. Then I hit the jackpot and got 10th row right/center via lottery on Monday night. I couldn't be happier with all the goods, tickets, and such. Sometimes you have to go outside 10C (I had to pull major strings to score side stage behind Mike at MSG1 last year) but hey, it's always better to have options and 10C at least gives you that.

eladder

Was at pj 20 and both toronto and everything was amazing but i dont understand how a pj fan who has been to many shows over the years can compare any show to pj20. It was simply a unique experience that has its own place.

dubq

I went to both shows and they were amazing - the shows themselves. This was the first time I've used the 10c to get tickets, though I have been a member for a few years. We got row 33 and 31 respectively..and I have to say, for the ACC at least, I'll never go that route again. Unless you're in the first 10, or are a giant, it is impossible to see anything. If this were the Ampitheatre, it'd be a different story. But the ACC floors are terrible. After the first night of straining our necks to see a glimpse of the band we decided to sit up in the restaurant, which is at skybox level, and had an awesome view for the entirety of the second show. Definitely had a better time the second night but the music and energy from both nights was outstanding as usual.

Ripley Rules

If you were in the building, then you had good seats. Better than the thousands who didn't have the opportunity to attend.

My 10c number's 438-XXX (why oh why didn't i join way back when? Oh, right, 'cause I never notify anyone when I change addresses...). I wasn't expecting front row, ended up getting 29th row on the floor (mike's side). And you know what? I had a blast there. Sound was good, I could see just fine, and the neighbors were cool. Had to Ticketmaster night 1 (my own fault - can never get those damn anti-spam words right and by the time I got through the audio test night 1 was sold out) and ended up in Section 121. You know what? Had a great time there, too. Sound was good, I could see just fine, and the neighbors were cool.

Focus on the show, and how awesome it was, and it'll all be groovy. 10C will hook you up more often than it will let you down.

dubq

Ripley Rules wrote:

If you were in the building, then you had good seats. Better than the thousands who didn't have the opportunity to attend.

My 10c number's 438-XXX (why oh why didn't i join way back when? Oh, right, 'cause I never notify anyone when I change addresses...). I wasn't expecting front row, ended up getting 29th row on the floor (mike's side). And you know what? I had a blast there. Sound was good, I could see just fine, and the neighbors were cool. Had to Ticketmaster night 1 (my own fault - can never get those damn anti-spam words right and by the time I got through the audio test night 1 was sold out) and ended up in Section 121. You know what? Had a great time there, too. Sound was good, I could see just fine, and the neighbors were cool.

Focus on the show, and how awesome it was, and it'll all be groovy. 10C will hook you up more often than it will let you down.

Well no kidding. My point was that the ACC is a shit venue for floor seats. Well it's a shit venue for anything really. And I was focusing on the show. Or did you miss the part where i said that the music and energy from both nights was amazing as usual? I've heard of selective hearing, but selective message-boarding is kinda ridiculous.