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http://gayhomophobe.com/

# days since the last prominent homophobe was caught in a gay sex scandal:
9

Latest winner: Sen. Roberto Arango (R / NPP), August 29, 2011
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    http://gayhomophobe.com/

    # days since the last prominent homophobe was caught in a gay sex scandal:
    9

    Latest winner: Sen. Roberto Arango (R / NPP), August 29, 2011

    I did not know that their are gay homophobes
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    Kind of on a Hot streak right now
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,433
    aerial wrote:
    http://gayhomophobe.com/

    # days since the last prominent homophobe was caught in a gay sex scandal:
    9

    Latest winner: Sen. Roberto Arango (R / NPP), August 29, 2011

    I did not know that their are gay homophobes

    If these guys bashed gays in anyway or denounced homosexuality, then that would make them gay homophobes. I'm assuming that's a correct assumption with these men.

    My advice to these fellows- be honest with yourself, be honest with your words. Kind of like "If you hate something, don't you do it too" but more like "If you do something, don't hate it too."
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  • Most homophobes are hiding something. They are insecure about something. They feel ashamed of what they might be.

    When I see an adult male acting homophobic, I usually think they might be gay or bi. Most straight people or gay people who are comfortable with their sexuality are accepting of others sexual preferances.. Some very straight men even go to gay bars to pick up women.
  • aerial wrote:
    http://gayhomophobe.com/

    # days since the last prominent homophobe was caught in a gay sex scandal:
    9

    Latest winner: Sen. Roberto Arango (R / NPP), August 29, 2011

    I did not know that their are gay homophobes

    I'm not convinced there are many straight ones.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    would one of you please define " homophobe "..
    no offense man but the gay thing just gives me the hebie jebies thinking about it so does that make a man a homophobe ?...or just an old set in his ways redneck :lol:


    Godfather.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Gob wrote:
    Most homophobes are hiding something. They are insecure about something. They feel ashamed of what they might be.

    When I see an adult male acting homophobic, I usually think they might be gay or bi. Most straight people or gay people who are comfortable with their sexuality are accepting of others sexual preferances.. Some very straight men even go to gay bars to pick up women.

    That's why I can feel complete comfort in saying on most days are try to be as gay as possible but some times it doesn't turn out that way. I have to also add more amd more these days I'm feeling a huge connection with the gay community. My fellow train friends you'll never imagine how connected that situation and situations really is.... :D

    Peace
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    http://gayhomophobe.com/

    # days since the last prominent homophobe was caught in a gay sex scandal:
    9

    Latest winner: Sen. Roberto Arango (R / NPP), August 29, 2011

    Not sure they are afraid of homosexuals... threatened that is ...
    if that is what homophobe means.... that word is used by the gay community... yes?
    in kind of a derogatory way towards straight people...yes/no? for those who do
    not understand nor embrace homosexuality.

    I'd say they are threatened about losing their status in their professional lives....
    No different then countless performers, professionals, religious leaders, etc etc
    So many not comfortable coming out for fear of losing what they have wanted
    and worked hard for in their lives.

    Not sure whose fault that is, we have but one life here, live it openly and honestly.

    That is the way of change.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Godfather. wrote:
    would one of you please define " homophobe "..
    no offense man but the gay thing just gives me the hebie jebies thinking about it so does that make a man a homophobe ?...or just an old set in his ways redneck :lol:


    Godfather.
    To most folks, it means "racism" toward gays or the gay community. Think of it like this: take the sentence you wrote above (or any sentence that might depict gays in a negative light) and insert "blacks". If the new sentence smacks of racism, then it probably smacks of homophobia as well. So for example:

    "No offense man but the black thing just gives me the hebie jebies."

    Kinda racist, so, there you go.

    For the above logic to have strength, you have to agree that homosexuality is as pre-determined and genetic as race. I think most people these days agree it's not a "choice" to be gay, but whether it's as ingrained in DNA as race, I don't know. I'm willing to be educated.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    I like this saying/meaning which speaks of the fear which leads to hate...

    The wise man teaches that fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate, but fear and hate aren't the same thing. "Phobia" still means fear, but in some of its compounds, -phobia's meaning has split between fear and hate. And homophobia has a three-way split, including that fear or loathing of one's own homosexual leanings. Why not use autohomophobia for that third sense? The word is out there. It's not in dictionaries yet, but it should be. Every society seems to produce both gays and those with antipathy to all things gay. Inevitably, they sometimes overlap.

    Homophobe

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    MotoDC wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    would one of you please define " homophobe "..
    no offense man but the gay thing just gives me the hebie jebies thinking about it so does that make a man a homophobe ?...or just an old set in his ways redneck :lol:


    Godfather.
    To most folks, it means "racism" toward gays or the gay community. Think of it like this: take the sentence you wrote above (or any sentence that might depict gays in a negative light) and insert "blacks". If the new sentence smacks of racism, then it probably smacks of homophobia as well. So for example:

    "No offense man but the black thing just gives me the hebie jebies."

    Kinda racist, so, there you go.

    For the above logic to have strength, you have to agree that homosexuality is as pre-determined and genetic as race. I think most people these days agree it's not a "choice" to be gay, but whether it's as ingrained in DNA as race, I don't know. I'm willing to be educated.

    I'm learning more and more these it's not a choice from my past and current experiences. I'm not exactly sure what it is but it's something from within that IS there that brings forth a life in the gay community. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Yoda wrote:
    The wise man teaches that fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate...
    Haha, I'm pretty sure that wise man was Yoda, but it still has some truth to it. :D
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    g under p wrote:
    I like this saying/meaning which speaks of the fear which leads to hate...

    The wise man teaches that fear leads to anger, and anger leads to hate, but fear and hate aren't the same thing. "Phobia" still means fear, but in some of its compounds, -phobia's meaning has split between fear and hate. And homophobia has a three-way split, including that fear or loathing of one's own homosexual leanings. Why not use autohomophobia for that third sense? The word is out there. It's not in dictionaries yet, but it should be. Every society seems to produce both gays and those with antipathy to all things gay. Inevitably, they sometimes overlap.

    Homophobe

    Peace

    i believe homophobia is more born out of ignorance than a fear ...
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    g under p wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    would one of you please define " homophobe "..
    no offense man but the gay thing just gives me the hebie jebies thinking about it so does that make a man a homophobe ?...or just an old set in his ways redneck :lol:


    Godfather.
    To most folks, it means "racism" toward gays or the gay community. Think of it like this: take the sentence you wrote above (or any sentence that might depict gays in a negative light) and insert "blacks". If the new sentence smacks of racism, then it probably smacks of homophobia as well. So for example:

    "No offense man but the black thing just gives me the hebie jebies."

    Kinda racist, so, there you go.

    For the above logic to have strength, you have to agree that homosexuality is as pre-determined and genetic as race. I think most people these days agree it's not a "choice" to be gay, but whether it's as ingrained in DNA as race, I don't know. I'm willing to be educated.

    I'm learning more and more these it's not a choice from my past and current experiences. I'm not exactly sure what it is but it's something from within that IS there that brings forth a life in the gay community. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

    Peace
    I have some close friends who are bisexual but live the gay lifestyle as their choice...
    I'm sure it can just as well work the other way and does.

    We are who we are.... and find beauty in what we find attractive.
    I never saw choice there.... more instinct on a most basic level mixed with a spiritual response.


    You know what I think though.... been through this ....
    it's evolution baby
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    MotoDC wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    would one of you please define " homophobe "..
    no offense man but the gay thing just gives me the hebie jebies thinking about it so does that make a man a homophobe ?...or just an old set in his ways redneck :lol:


    Godfather.
    To most folks, it means "racism" toward gays or the gay community. Think of it like this: take the sentence you wrote above (or any sentence that might depict gays in a negative light) and insert "blacks". If the new sentence smacks of racism, then it probably smacks of homophobia as well. So for example:

    "No offense man but the black thing just gives me the hebie jebies."

    Kinda racist, so, there you go.

    For the above logic to have strength, you have to agree that homosexuality is as pre-determined and genetic as race. I think most people these days agree it's not a "choice" to be gay, but whether it's as ingrained in DNA as race, I don't know. I'm willing to be educated.


    sometimes gay is a choice having a skin color at birth is not but I get your point thanks for the reply.


    Godfather.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    http://gayhomophobe.com/

    # days since the last prominent homophobe was caught in a gay sex scandal:
    9

    Latest winner: Sen. Roberto Arango (R / NPP), August 29, 2011


    they should just form their own party...they could use this man as their "Reagan"
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  • Godfather. wrote:
    would one of you please define " homophobe "..
    no offense man but the gay thing just gives me the hebie jebies thinking about it so does that make a man a homophobe ?...or just an old set in his ways redneck :lol:


    Godfather.


    Quite honestly, a lot of people find me personally to be a bit threatening. I do look kinda mean. Even gay people say I scare them a bit.

    But we're talking about the guys who actively campaign against equal rights and protections for gay people. We're talking about guys like George Rekkers who ran an ex-gay "treatment center" and actually testified before congress against the gay community and then was found hiring rent boys to "carry his bag" to France.

    Read some of the other stories and you'll see what a bunch of hypocrites these guys are.

    If you are uncomfortable about my being gay, it's not something that I really understand (it's not like you're going to accidentally blow me, right?) but as long as you don't actively fight against my rights, you're entitled to your own feelings. I just hope that with time you can see that I'm no threat to you.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    it's called social construct prince ... he doesn't have the heebie jeebies because of anything tangible ... it's the way he was brought up ... the societal forces that has formed his opinion ...
  • Godfather. wrote:
    sometimes gay is a choice having a skin color at birth is not but I get your point thanks for the reply.


    Godfather.


    Being gay is NEVER a "choice."

    Deciding whether to live out as your self or hidden in accordance with the social rules of your community IS.

    Nobody has ever decided to be gay. It has never happened. The people who say it has are the ones trying to come up with a good excuse for denying us basic human rights.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Prince how do you feel about obvious famous gay people, who are still in the closet? For example:
    11684_prince_l.jpg
    or
    Brian%20Williams.jpg
    Do you think they have a responsiblity to come out and champion equality or do you respect there right to stay in the closet?
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Prince how do you feel about obvious famous gay people, who are still in the closet? For example:
    11684_prince_l.jpg
    or
    Brian%20Williams.jpg
    Do you think they have a responsiblity to come out and champion equality or do you respect there right to stay in the closet?

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Being gay is NEVER a "choice."

    Deciding whether to live out as your self or hidden in accordance with the social rules of your community IS.

    Nobody has ever decided to be gay. It has never happened. The people who say it has are the ones trying to come up with a good excuse for denying us basic human rights.
    Perhaps not a choice, but do you believe that outside factors can physiologically influence someone in their adolescence?
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Jason P wrote:
    Being gay is NEVER a "choice."

    Deciding whether to live out as your self or hidden in accordance with the social rules of your community IS.

    Nobody has ever decided to be gay. It has never happened. The people who say it has are the ones trying to come up with a good excuse for denying us basic human rights.
    Perhaps not a choice, but do you believe that outside factors can physiologically influence someone in their adolescence?


    influence them to hide it, yes...influence whether or not they turn out gay...no.


    it is more likely that you are gay and choose to act or "be" straight, than it is you are straight and choose to be gay
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    rush limbaugh always preaches or did anyway on how terrible drug addicts are then gets found out that he is a raging drug addicted pill popper himself, purchasing drugs in parking lots in the shadows behind trash dumpsters.

    i am sure he has bashed homosexuals with no care for the negativities he's spread on the air.

    it would be safe to say, by carefully weighing the odds, that rush limbaugh would in fact smoke a pole vs' not smoking a pole.

    that's just how i see things. i could be wrong, but im not ;)
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    sometimes gay is a choice having a skin color at birth is not but I get your point thanks for the reply.


    Godfather.


    Being gay is NEVER a "choice."

    Deciding whether to live out as your self or hidden in accordance with the social rules of your community IS.

    Nobody has ever decided to be gay. It has never happened. The people who say it has are the ones trying to come up with a good excuse for denying us basic human rights.

    so this gal I used to hang with swung both ways and enjoyed men more than women just a bit ,so was that a choice or a guilty pleasure she couldn't resist ?
    I believe for some it was / is a choice but others I would agree not a choice, I watched my friends kid grow up and we knew he was gay very early in life..and yes he is today.

    Godfather.
  • Prince how do you feel about obvious famous gay people, who are still in the closet? For example:


    Do you think they have a responsiblity to come out and champion equality or do you respect there right to stay in the closet?


    Prince is straight. He was assumed to be gay in the 80s because he dressed in a way that was meant to be provocative and shocking. But he's not gay. Although quite supportive of gay people.

    Brain Williams I believe is also straight. Just soft-spoken.

    However, there are different kinds of closet, aren't there?


    Let's talk about the ones who ARE gay and not out like Anderson Cooper, Jodie Foster... they are openly gay in their private lives, very supportive of the community and just don't publicly talk about their private lives. That's fine... they harm no one and their careers of choice aren't about them.

    Then there's the vaguely anti-gay people like Charlie Crist, former governor of Florida or Tom Cruise. Gay in his private life but keeps a beard... claims to be straight in public and often says anti-gay things or supports anti-gay causes.

    Then there's people like Marcus Bachmann, George Rekkers, Larry Craig. They did everything in their power to hurt the gay community, won cheap political points by attacking the gay community, voted against basic rights for gay families and yet were all full-on pole smokers.

    To be fair... Marcus Bachmann hasn't been caught red-handed. Yet. But girl... she's gayer than Christmas.
  • Jason P wrote:
    Perhaps not a choice, but do you believe that outside factors can physiologically influence someone in their adolescence?

    No.

    I knew I was gay from the time I was about 4. My father insists he knew from the time I was 2 hours old. He took one look at me and said "Jasun's gay. OK."

    Considering how I had heterosexuality rammed down my throat for my whole life and it never turned me straight... no amount of watching Captain Jack Harkness kissing Ianto Jones will turn straight teenagers into anything but supportive straight friends.
  • Godfather. wrote:
    so this gal I used to hang with swung both ways and enjoyed men more than women just a bit ,so was that a choice or a guilty pleasure she couldn't resist ?
    Godfather.

    Bisexuality is also something that you just are or aren't.

    no choice is given.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    I don't know,Captain Jack Harkness gives me thoughts..., But anyway, Anderson Cooper, that's what it is about him! Can we also agree that Jodi Foster is atleast Bi, i've had a serious crush on her my whole life.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Price is gay, but he's a serious Jesus Freak and i think his own religous veiws won't let him admit to himself, But he's Flaming, Assless pants? Come On, that's not a publicity stunt. That's his inner gay crying for freedom.
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