Why not make it profitable for a company to be green?
That would be an excellent start and green markets are starting up- the question is- how fast? And yes, people want stuff but when what they really need is food, most "stuff" will seem just what it is, stuff. Peak oil will cure us of our addiction to so many non-essentials. Asia will not continue endlessly producing these things either- they too will run short of cheap energy (oil) and, sadly, many Asian countries have already trashed their environment. Hopefully they too will get on board with greening before it's too late. Again, why EVERYBODY isn't is beyond me. :(
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they cheered when cain repeated "if you don't have a job and you aren't rich it is your fault" postion...
the crowd was predominantly white middle aged folks.
perry and romney had a few testy exchanges....romney dissed perry saying "rick is coming off a couple of bad debates" and my reply while watching it on tv was "WOOT!!"
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
But reality aside, what makes him and his people think this is a good message to win an election?
He's playing to the base right now to get the nomination. He will change his tune if he gets the nom and ends up going toe to toe with Obama-- he even mostly agreed with Ron Paul's response to that question, so he's already given himself an out. Politics is all about the art of doublespeak. I don't see Herman staying the frontrunner for much longer. I'm hoping for a scenario where all of the neo-cons up there just beat themselves up to the point of implosion and my man Ron sneaks in and steals it-- or, he makes The GOP the ultimatum: nominate me, or I run third party. He knows for damn sure that the country will likely be no better off with any of those other clowns in office, nor Obama, so if he doesn't get the nomination it's likely to be status quo for another 4 years no matter what. He's retiring from politics if he doesn't get the nomination, so he doesn't owe The Republican Party or anyone else anything come November of next year-- unless he gets elected
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Have you seen their competition? This is still very winnable.
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Have you seen their competition? This is still very winnable.
I'd rather see Obama get another shot at this than give the steering wheel to one of these fools ...Really you could see your self voting for one ....
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Have you seen their competition? This is still very winnable.
I'd rather see Obama get another shot at this than give the steering wheel to one of these fools ...Really you could see your self voting for one ....
Yes, a couple of them. I've dumped all but Mitt, Ron Paul, and John Huntsman from my list though.
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Calling a lack of willingness to make at least some cuts in military spending "economic suicide," Paul stated: "We have enough weapons to blow up the world about 20, 25 times. We have more weapons than all the other countries put together essentially. And we want to spend more and more, and you can't cut a penny? I mean, this is why we are at an impasse." Rep. Paul then challenged his opponents to come up with some genuine spending cuts: "I want to hear somebody up here willing to cut something, something real. This budget is in bad shape, and the financial calamity is going to be much worse than anybody ever invading this country."
"Foreign aid, it should be the easiest thing to cut. It's not authorized in the Constitution," Paul countered. "To me, foreign aid is taking money from poor people in this country and giving it to rich people in poor countries." Paul proposed a budget plan this week that would zero out foreign aid in year one,
what about these statements makes Paul a clown and unfit to lead.
what exactly do you disagree with here?
You may not like Bachmann and you may think all of the neocons are nuts...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...I challenge anyone to read about Paul's policies and his record and tell me he is anything like the others on that stage...
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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- Joe Rogan
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Calling a lack of willingness to make at least some cuts in military spending "economic suicide," Paul stated: "We have enough weapons to blow up the world about 20, 25 times. We have more weapons than all the other countries put together essentially. And we want to spend more and more, and you can't cut a penny? I mean, this is why we are at an impasse." Rep. Paul then challenged his opponents to come up with some genuine spending cuts: "I want to hear somebody up here willing to cut something, something real. This budget is in bad shape, and the financial calamity is going to be much worse than anybody ever invading this country."
"Foreign aid, it should be the easiest thing to cut. It's not authorized in the Constitution," Paul countered. "To me, foreign aid is taking money from poor people in this country and giving it to rich people in poor countries." Paul proposed a budget plan this week that would zero out foreign aid in year one,
what about these statements makes Paul a clown and unfit to lead.
what exactly do you disagree with here?
You may not like Bachmann and you may think all of the neocons are nuts...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...I challenge anyone to read about Paul's policies and his record and tell me he is anything like the others on that stage...
i agree with paul in this regard, but will the people whose votes really matter, the congress who will vote on his budget, go along with it? i seriously doubt it.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Have you seen their competition? This is still very winnable.
I'd rather see Obama get another shot at this than give the steering wheel to one of these fools ...Really you could see your self voting for one ....
Yes, a couple of them. I've dumped all but Mitt, Ron Paul, and John Huntsman from my list though.
I saw one of the earlier debates and Huntsman seems like the only one who can express a cohesive thought and he gave the impression that he put some effort into how an idea translates to reality. Of course, he also has very little support amongst Republicans.
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Calling a lack of willingness to make at least some cuts in military spending "economic suicide," Paul stated: "We have enough weapons to blow up the world about 20, 25 times. We have more weapons than all the other countries put together essentially. And we want to spend more and more, and you can't cut a penny? I mean, this is why we are at an impasse." Rep. Paul then challenged his opponents to come up with some genuine spending cuts: "I want to hear somebody up here willing to cut something, something real. This budget is in bad shape, and the financial calamity is going to be much worse than anybody ever invading this country."
"Foreign aid, it should be the easiest thing to cut. It's not authorized in the Constitution," Paul countered. "To me, foreign aid is taking money from poor people in this country and giving it to rich people in poor countries." Paul proposed a budget plan this week that would zero out foreign aid in year one,
what about these statements makes Paul a clown and unfit to lead.
what exactly do you disagree with here?
You may not like Bachmann and you may think all of the neocons are nuts...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...I challenge anyone to read about Paul's policies and his record and tell me he is anything like the others on that stage...
i agree with paul in this regard, but will the people whose votes really matter, the congress who will vote on his budget, go along with it? i seriously doubt it.
I really think that he would have enough support in congress to get much of what he wants...Right now the person who would gain the most bi partisan political support for foreign policy would be Paul. More democrats would support his policies over President Obama's. At least that is my opinion. I think if Paul were to get elected, much of the reason why would be his economic plan and budget responsibility. Congress would be certainly hard pressed to disagree with him, and it would be an even harder sell to the American people as to why they disagree with someone like Paul in office consistently calling them on their bs. I just don't see him wilting like Obama has in regards to what he wants.
I think with Paul being willing to take the political heat that comes with tough decisions, they wouldn't be that disagreeable. I just don't see him making decisions solely to get re-elected like most presidents...and that alone sets him apart in my mind.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Calling a lack of willingness to make at least some cuts in military spending "economic suicide," Paul stated: "We have enough weapons to blow up the world about 20, 25 times. We have more weapons than all the other countries put together essentially. And we want to spend more and more, and you can't cut a penny? I mean, this is why we are at an impasse." Rep. Paul then challenged his opponents to come up with some genuine spending cuts: "I want to hear somebody up here willing to cut something, something real. This budget is in bad shape, and the financial calamity is going to be much worse than anybody ever invading this country."
"Foreign aid, it should be the easiest thing to cut. It's not authorized in the Constitution," Paul countered. "To me, foreign aid is taking money from poor people in this country and giving it to rich people in poor countries." Paul proposed a budget plan this week that would zero out foreign aid in year one,
what about these statements makes Paul a clown and unfit to lead.
what exactly do you disagree with here?
You may not like Bachmann and you may think all of the neocons are nuts...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...I challenge anyone to read about Paul's policies and his record and tell me he is anything like the others on that stage...
You know what i do like some of the things he has to offer i really do , i just wish he would come off a bit more stern specially in the debates it always seems like he just gets brushed away ...Good luck to him ..
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Calling a lack of willingness to make at least some cuts in military spending "economic suicide," Paul stated: "We have enough weapons to blow up the world about 20, 25 times. We have more weapons than all the other countries put together essentially. And we want to spend more and more, and you can't cut a penny? I mean, this is why we are at an impasse." Rep. Paul then challenged his opponents to come up with some genuine spending cuts: "I want to hear somebody up here willing to cut something, something real. This budget is in bad shape, and the financial calamity is going to be much worse than anybody ever invading this country."
"Foreign aid, it should be the easiest thing to cut. It's not authorized in the Constitution," Paul countered. "To me, foreign aid is taking money from poor people in this country and giving it to rich people in poor countries." Paul proposed a budget plan this week that would zero out foreign aid in year one,
what about these statements makes Paul a clown and unfit to lead.
what exactly do you disagree with here?
You may not like Bachmann and you may think all of the neocons are nuts...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...I challenge anyone to read about Paul's policies and his record and tell me he is anything like the others on that stage...
This was my favorite moment in the debate. He made Rick Santorum look like an absolute fool.
No matter what none of these clowns are getting my vote they are totally incompetent to lead , i mean really GOP this the best you have to offer ? really ....
Calling a lack of willingness to make at least some cuts in military spending "economic suicide," Paul stated: "We have enough weapons to blow up the world about 20, 25 times. We have more weapons than all the other countries put together essentially. And we want to spend more and more, and you can't cut a penny? I mean, this is why we are at an impasse." Rep. Paul then challenged his opponents to come up with some genuine spending cuts: "I want to hear somebody up here willing to cut something, something real. This budget is in bad shape, and the financial calamity is going to be much worse than anybody ever invading this country."
"Foreign aid, it should be the easiest thing to cut. It's not authorized in the Constitution," Paul countered. "To me, foreign aid is taking money from poor people in this country and giving it to rich people in poor countries." Paul proposed a budget plan this week that would zero out foreign aid in year one,
what about these statements makes Paul a clown and unfit to lead.
what exactly do you disagree with here?
You may not like Bachmann and you may think all of the neocons are nuts...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...I challenge anyone to read about Paul's policies and his record and tell me he is anything like the others on that stage...
This was my favorite moment in the debate. He made Rick Santorum look like an absolute fool.
Santorum is beyond pathetic at this point. All he did was attack other people on the stage last night, and the only one he even came close to getting the best of was Rick Perry. This guy needs to leave the race the first chance he gets. He looks like he's in pain when he talks.
One thing. Herman Cain, I don't want to go to your damn website and read about 9-9-9. Explain it to people, you should know how to do that since it's YOUR plan.
One thing. Herman Cain, I don't want to go to your damn website and read about 9-9-9. Explain it to people, you should know how to do that since it's YOUR plan.
One thing. Herman Cain, I don't want to go to your damn website and read about 9-9-9. Explain it to people, you should know how to do that since it's YOUR plan.
Dude can't explain it. No one can explain it. So state taxes aren't going to go away but you are going at add a 9% sales tax and people aren't going to pay a 17% sales tax? Possibly the easiest question of the plan if the plan made any sense.
One thing. Herman Cain, I don't want to go to your damn website and read about 9-9-9. Explain it to people, you should know how to do that since it's YOUR plan.
Dude can't explain it. No one can explain it. So state taxes aren't going to go away but you are going at add a 9% sales tax and people aren't going to pay a 17% sales tax? Possibly the easiest question of the plan if the plan made any sense.
dude, that's an orange and you just presented an apple, what the hell is wrong w/you, its all apples n oranges or ball bearings these days (fletch reference). this is seriously the gang that could not shoot straight.
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One thing. Herman Cain, I don't want to go to your damn website and read about 9-9-9. Explain it to people, you should know how to do that since it's YOUR plan.
Dude can't explain it. No one can explain it. So state taxes aren't going to go away but you are going at add a 9% sales tax and people aren't going to pay a 17% sales tax? Possibly the easiest question of the plan if the plan made any sense.
dude, that's an orange and you just presented an apple, what the hell is wrong w/you, its all apples n oranges or ball bearings these days (fletch reference). this is seriously the gang that could not shoot straight.
that window has filth muck all over it...
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
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That would be an excellent start and green markets are starting up- the question is- how fast? And yes, people want stuff but when what they really need is food, most "stuff" will seem just what it is, stuff. Peak oil will cure us of our addiction to so many non-essentials. Asia will not continue endlessly producing these things either- they too will run short of cheap energy (oil) and, sadly, many Asian countries have already trashed their environment. Hopefully they too will get on board with greening before it's too late. Again, why EVERYBODY isn't is beyond me. :(
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i love a good spectacle!
the crowd was predominantly white middle aged folks.
perry and romney had a few testy exchanges....romney dissed perry saying "rick is coming off a couple of bad debates" and my reply while watching it on tv was "WOOT!!"
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
:roll:
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
He's not all wrong, and certainly not all right.
But reality aside, what makes him and his people think this is a good message to win an election?
He's playing to the base right now to get the nomination. He will change his tune if he gets the nom and ends up going toe to toe with Obama-- he even mostly agreed with Ron Paul's response to that question, so he's already given himself an out. Politics is all about the art of doublespeak. I don't see Herman staying the frontrunner for much longer. I'm hoping for a scenario where all of the neo-cons up there just beat themselves up to the point of implosion and my man Ron sneaks in and steals it-- or, he makes The GOP the ultimatum: nominate me, or I run third party. He knows for damn sure that the country will likely be no better off with any of those other clowns in office, nor Obama, so if he doesn't get the nomination it's likely to be status quo for another 4 years no matter what. He's retiring from politics if he doesn't get the nomination, so he doesn't owe The Republican Party or anyone else anything come November of next year-- unless he gets elected
Have you seen their competition? This is still very winnable.
I'd rather see Obama get another shot at this than give the steering wheel to one of these fools ...Really you could see your self voting for one ....
Yes, a couple of them. I've dumped all but Mitt, Ron Paul, and John Huntsman from my list though.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/po ... t-ron-paul
Calling a lack of willingness to make at least some cuts in military spending "economic suicide," Paul stated: "We have enough weapons to blow up the world about 20, 25 times. We have more weapons than all the other countries put together essentially. And we want to spend more and more, and you can't cut a penny? I mean, this is why we are at an impasse." Rep. Paul then challenged his opponents to come up with some genuine spending cuts: "I want to hear somebody up here willing to cut something, something real. This budget is in bad shape, and the financial calamity is going to be much worse than anybody ever invading this country."
"Foreign aid, it should be the easiest thing to cut. It's not authorized in the Constitution," Paul countered. "To me, foreign aid is taking money from poor people in this country and giving it to rich people in poor countries." Paul proposed a budget plan this week that would zero out foreign aid in year one,
what about these statements makes Paul a clown and unfit to lead.
what exactly do you disagree with here?
You may not like Bachmann and you may think all of the neocons are nuts...but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater...I challenge anyone to read about Paul's policies and his record and tell me he is anything like the others on that stage...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I saw one of the earlier debates and Huntsman seems like the only one who can express a cohesive thought and he gave the impression that he put some effort into how an idea translates to reality. Of course, he also has very little support amongst Republicans.
I really think that he would have enough support in congress to get much of what he wants...Right now the person who would gain the most bi partisan political support for foreign policy would be Paul. More democrats would support his policies over President Obama's. At least that is my opinion. I think if Paul were to get elected, much of the reason why would be his economic plan and budget responsibility. Congress would be certainly hard pressed to disagree with him, and it would be an even harder sell to the American people as to why they disagree with someone like Paul in office consistently calling them on their bs. I just don't see him wilting like Obama has in regards to what he wants.
I think with Paul being willing to take the political heat that comes with tough decisions, they wouldn't be that disagreeable. I just don't see him making decisions solely to get re-elected like most presidents...and that alone sets him apart in my mind.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
You know what i do like some of the things he has to offer i really do , i just wish he would come off a bit more stern specially in the debates it always seems like he just gets brushed away ...Good luck to him ..
This was my favorite moment in the debate. He made Rick Santorum look like an absolute fool.
Santorum is beyond pathetic at this point. All he did was attack other people on the stage last night, and the only one he even came close to getting the best of was Rick Perry. This guy needs to leave the race the first chance he gets. He looks like he's in pain when he talks.
I agree with some of what Paul says, but for gods sake, get a fucking suit that fits.
thats an orange
Dude can't explain it. No one can explain it. So state taxes aren't going to go away but you are going at add a 9% sales tax and people aren't going to pay a 17% sales tax? Possibly the easiest question of the plan if the plan made any sense.
dude, that's an orange and you just presented an apple, what the hell is wrong w/you, its all apples n oranges or ball bearings these days (fletch reference). this is seriously the gang that could not shoot straight.
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that window has filth muck all over it...
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
What moment was that, the moment Rick stepped onto the stage? Rick's been doing a good job by himself, he doesn't need anyone else to help him.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/perry-says-mistake-him-participate-2012-debates-125805254.html
So, basically his biggest mistake was letting the American public hear him talk without a script.
WOOT!!
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."