Debate Tonight!!!!!!!

CH156378

Enjoy the show everyone. I'm looking forward to seeing Rick. I know I will be thouroughly entertained.

My favorite vice. Enjoying a bowl of green while watching a debate. Good Times!

Godfather.

do you mean a bowl Andersens split pea soup ?....yes good stuff !!!


Godfather.

RFTC

perry is struggling, lacks coherency and depth.

Smellyman

I would watch a bit for the entertainment value. What a train wreck of a lineup.

However, I would probably get annoyed in about 10 seconds.....

CH156378

:yawn:

gimmesometruth27

i watched for about 15 minutes and had to turn it off.

it is just not worth the effort to try to digest their message when they say they want to cut everything. especially corporate taxes and taxes on the rich/job creators, and roll back everything, free market, evil oversized government blah blah, with no other solutions. it is the same things being said that have been said since obama won the election.

since pj20 i realize that arguing on here about this stuff is pretty pointless and is a waste of my life.

brianlux

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i watched for about 15 minutes and had to turn it off.

it is just not worth the effort to try to digest their message when they say they want to cut everything. especially corporate taxes and taxes on the rich/job creators, and roll back everything, free market, evil oversized government blah blah, with no other solutions. it is the same things being said that have been said since obama won the election.

since pj20 i realize that arguing on here about this stuff is pretty pointless and is a waste of my life.

I missed the debate due to my work schedual but your summation, gimmesometruth27, is pretty much what I 'd have guessed it would be all about. I had an acceptionally difficult work day but I'll take that over being nausiated by watching this fiasco so I guess I can't complain!

Godfather.

9-9-9 across the board ?

Godfather.

Jason P

My thoughts:

* Herman Cain was the only one that actually offered logical solutions to problems ... too bad he is a bigot

* Rick Santorum is capable of rattling off in-depth answers similar to Will Ferrell when he debated James Carville in the movie Old School (What happened? I blacked out)

* Perry was batted around by everyone after Ron Paul lit into him for his HPV Vaccine Policy (a policy that seems more socialist then anything Obama has yet to do)

* Bachmann is fading away. Get the fork ready.

* Mitt Romney is boring as hell .... he will probably be the GOP pick. His strategy is to let the other candidates kill each other while he sits back and watches.

* Jon Huntsman looked like he caked his face with Spray n' Tan

* Worst showing for Ron Paul. The crowd was small and his supporters were a minority. Got nailed at the end when asked why he voiced dissent against Reagan in the late 80's ... never good when you are debating on Reagan's home turf.

* Newt Gingrich is not going to win but he made some brownie points with fellow republicans for going after MSNBC

* Speaking of MSNBC, the moderators were a bunch of wussies and could not control the debate. I think only about 5% of the questions were actually answered. Fox News was 20x more aggressive in their questions in the last debate. Perry benefited the most due to their lack of aggressiveness and I can see him getting pummeled in future debates.

CH156378

Jason P wrote:

My thoughts:

* Herman Cain was the only one that actually offered logical solutions to problems ... too bad he is a bigot

* Rick Santorum is capable of rattling off in-depth answers similar to Will Ferrell when he debated James Carville in the movie Old School (What happened? I blacked out)

* Perry was batted around by everyone after Ron Paul lit into him for his HPV Vaccine Policy (a policy that seems more socialist then anything Obama has yet to do)

* Bachmann is fading away. Get the fork ready.

* Mitt Romney is boring as hell .... he will probably be the GOP pick. His strategy is to let the other candidates kill each other while he sits back and watches.

* Jon Huntsman looked like he caked his face with Spray n' Tan

* Worst showing for Ron Paul. The crowd was small and his supporters were a minority. Got nailed at the end when asked why he voiced dissent against Reagan in the late 80's ... never good when you are debating on Reagan's home turf.

* Newt Gingrich is not going to win but he made some brownie points with fellow republicans for going after MSNBC

* Speaking of MSNBC, the moderators were a bunch of wussies and could not control the debate. I think only about 5% of the questions were actually answered. Fox News was 20x more aggressive in their questions in the last debate. Perry benefited the most due to their lack of aggressiveness and I can see him getting pummeled in future debates.

+1

pandora

Jason P wrote:

My thoughts:

* Herman Cain was the only one that actually offered logical solutions to problems ... too bad he is a bigot

* Rick Santorum is capable of rattling off in-depth answers similar to Will Ferrell when he debated James Carville in the movie Old School (What happened? I blacked out)

* Perry was batted around by everyone after Ron Paul lit into him for his HPV Vaccine Policy (a policy that seems more socialist then anything Obama has yet to do)

* Bachmann is fading away. Get the fork ready.

* Mitt Romney is boring as hell .... he will probably be the GOP pick. His strategy is to let the other candidates kill each other while he sits back and watches.

* Jon Huntsman looked like he caked his face with Spray n' Tan

* Worst showing for Ron Paul. The crowd was small and his supporters were a minority. Got nailed at the end when asked why he voiced dissent against Reagan in the late 80's ... never good when you are debating on Reagan's home turf.

* Newt Gingrich is not going to win but he made some brownie points with fellow republicans for going after MSNBC

* Speaking of MSNBC, the moderators were a bunch of wussies and could not control the debate. I think only about 5% of the questions were actually answered. Fox News was 20x more aggressive in their questions in the last debate. Perry benefited the most due to their lack of aggressiveness and I can see him getting pummeled in future debates.

nice review .... thanks

I didn't watch but I think Herman Cain could be a good choice to beat Obama.
Didn't know he was prejudice....

cincybearcat

I liked a lot of what Jon Huntsman was saying. He did look like he visited the Jersey Shore just prior to the debate with that fake tan. I was expecting him to bust out "It's T-Shirt Time!!!!" and tear off the suit at any moment.

Mitt seemed like he had a tough time communicating. Stumbling, etc, but that's ok really, no one is perfect.

Ron Paul said some good things, but also had a hard time communicating his thoughts some times which made him seem like he was rambling.

Those are the only 3 I really listen to much at all. Perry seems like a figure head type and not a true leader or idea guy. Bachmann isn't always crazy, but she has her moments.

Bottom line - Hunstman won the debate for me. I really wish this was where the GOP was headed.

VINNY GOOMBA

pandora wrote:

Jason P wrote:

My thoughts:

* Herman Cain was the only one that actually offered logical solutions to problems ... too bad he is a bigot

* Rick Santorum is capable of rattling off in-depth answers similar to Will Ferrell when he debated James Carville in the movie Old School (What happened? I blacked out)

* Perry was batted around by everyone after Ron Paul lit into him for his HPV Vaccine Policy (a policy that seems more socialist then anything Obama has yet to do)

* Bachmann is fading away. Get the fork ready.

* Mitt Romney is boring as hell .... he will probably be the GOP pick. His strategy is to let the other candidates kill each other while he sits back and watches.

* Jon Huntsman looked like he caked his face with Spray n' Tan

* Worst showing for Ron Paul. The crowd was small and his supporters were a minority. Got nailed at the end when asked why he voiced dissent against Reagan in the late 80's ... never good when you are debating on Reagan's home turf.

* Newt Gingrich is not going to win but he made some brownie points with fellow republicans for going after MSNBC

* Speaking of MSNBC, the moderators were a bunch of wussies and could not control the debate. I think only about 5% of the questions were actually answered. Fox News was 20x more aggressive in their questions in the last debate. Perry benefited the most due to their lack of aggressiveness and I can see him getting pummeled in future debates.

nice review .... thanks

I didn't watch but I think Herman Cain could be a good choice to beat Obama.
Didn't know he was prejudice....

Herman Cain was formerly on the board of Governors for the Fed in Atlanta, and to my knowledge really doesn't criticize the Fed publicly. He loves to talk about free markets and getting government out of the way of business, but I believe him to be disingenuous. As far as him being a bigot, he made some sort of statement about people of islamic faith not being permitted in his cabinet until they somehow proved their loyalty to America. He went on to clarify that he would hold everyone to that same standard.

Ron was NOT on point last night-- he wasn't bad, but he blew an opportunity to stand out from the pack. He's too used to having to rush his answers out. He should just take a deep breath and not try to squeeze it all in there. Speak a little louder and over top of the moderators if need be. Everyone else does it. Once again, he was not given the same amount of speaking time as everyone else, nor asked the same amount of questions, and was only asked questions that are aimed to make him appear "socially darwinist"-- getting rid of federally-funded school lunch programs, getting rid of FEMA, etc... They asked everyone else a question about the Fed. Why not ask the guy who wrote a book called "End The Fed"? Again, there is an incredible bias against this guy, and I think at some point it's going to boil over and help him more than it hurts him.

And once again, no Gary Johnson. This is complete bullshit. The guy is a legitimate contender and has more pollish and poise than Ron Paul, with identical ideas. He is getting the Ron Paul '08 treatment probably because he is just as dangerous to the establishment. The debates would be so much different if there were 2 people up there coming from that viewpoint.

VINNY GOOMBA

cincybearcat wrote:

I liked a lot of what Jon Huntsman was saying. He did look like he visited the Jersey Shore just prior to the debate with that fake tan. I was expecting him to bust out "It's T-Shirt Time!!!!" and tear off the suit at any moment.

Mitt seemed like he had a tough time communicating. Stumbling, etc, but that's ok really, no one is perfect.

Ron Paul said some good things, but also had a hard time communicating his thoughts some times which made him seem like he was rambling.

Those are the only 3 I really listen to much at all. Perry seems like a figure head type and not a true leader or idea guy. Bachmann isn't always crazy, but she has her moments.

Bottom line - Hunstman won the debate for me. I really wish this was where the GOP was headed.

Perry really is starting to become a caricature of himself.

Jason P

I particularly enjoyed when Santorum refereed to himself in 3rd person when addressing who did the most to help the poor. Usually, that is a tactic used by heavyweight boxers and NFL players during interviews.

mikepegg44

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I liked a lot of what Jon Huntsman was saying. He did look like he visited the Jersey Shore just prior to the debate with that fake tan. I was expecting him to bust out "It's T-Shirt Time!!!!" and tear off the suit at any moment.

Mitt seemed like he had a tough time communicating. Stumbling, etc, but that's ok really, no one is perfect.

Ron Paul said some good things, but also had a hard time communicating his thoughts some times which made him seem like he was rambling.

Those are the only 3 I really listen to much at all. Perry seems like a figure head type and not a true leader or idea guy. Bachmann isn't always crazy, but she has her moments.

Bottom line - Hunstman won the debate for me. I really wish this was where the GOP was headed.

Perry really is starting to become a caricature of himself.

I may not know all the rules of politics, but the two I do know are, never get involved in a fight about conservative principles with Ron Paul and never get involved in a battle of wits with a Sicilian when death is on the line...
Perry seems like he has thin skin. You wouldn't do this during a commercial break if you were able to handle criticism.

VINNY GOOMBA

mikepegg44 wrote:

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

I liked a lot of what Jon Huntsman was saying. He did look like he visited the Jersey Shore just prior to the debate with that fake tan. I was expecting him to bust out "It's T-Shirt Time!!!!" and tear off the suit at any moment.

Mitt seemed like he had a tough time communicating. Stumbling, etc, but that's ok really, no one is perfect.

Ron Paul said some good things, but also had a hard time communicating his thoughts some times which made him seem like he was rambling.

Those are the only 3 I really listen to much at all. Perry seems like a figure head type and not a true leader or idea guy. Bachmann isn't always crazy, but she has her moments.

Bottom line - Hunstman won the debate for me. I really wish this was where the GOP was headed.

Perry really is starting to become a caricature of himself.

I may not know all the rules of politics, but the two I do know are, never get involved in a fight about conservative principles with Ron Paul and never get involved in a battle of wits with a Sicilian when death is on the line...
Perry seems like he has thin skin. You wouldn't do this during a commercial break if you were able to handle criticism.

Proof that Rick Perry doesn't belive in a hands-off approach! Nyuk nyuk nyuk!

brianlux

A question for those of you who saw the debate: Did any one of these candidates even mention climate change or peak oil? I know this seems almost like a rhetorical question and I hope my bringing these subjects up frequently doesn't offend anyone but to my thinking, if these matters aren't seriously talked about, then I think something huge is missing from the debate. It's like a bunch of liscensed contractors talking about what kind of studs to replace or weather to roof in tile or composite shingle when the whole damn foundation is rotting. Why are these subjects not more the focus?

ComeToTX

brianlux wrote:

A question for those of you who saw the debate: Did any one of these candidates even mention climate change or peak oil? I know this seems almost like a rhetorical question and I hope my bringing these subjects up frequently doesn't offend anyone but to my thinking, if these matters aren't seriously talked about, then I think something huge is missing from the debate. It's like a bunch of liscensed contractors talking about what kind of studs to replace or weather to roof in tile or composite shingle when the whole damn foundation is rotting. Why are these subjects not more the focus?

Perry stated once again that he doesn't belive in science or man -made climate change. And he's not sold on evolution. Electing Perry would be like taking a time machine back to the 50's.

cincybearcat

ComeToTX wrote:

brianlux wrote:

A question for those of you who saw the debate: Did any one of these candidates even mention climate change or peak oil? I know this seems almost like a rhetorical question and I hope my bringing these subjects up frequently doesn't offend anyone but to my thinking, if these matters aren't seriously talked about, then I think something huge is missing from the debate. It's like a bunch of liscensed contractors talking about what kind of studs to replace or weather to roof in tile or composite shingle when the whole damn foundation is rotting. Why are these subjects not more the focus?

Perry stated once again that he doesn't belive in science or man -made climate change. And he's not sold on evolution. Electing Perry would be like taking a time machine back to the 50's.

Jon Huntsman made the comment again about the republican party needing to not be known as the party against science. He basically said that 98% (I think that was what he said) of scientist believe their is a correlation between man-made greenhouse gases and climate change. he really made Rick Perry look like a complete idiot because Perry didn't offer up any alternative scientists that say different. he just said, the science isn't settled.

I, for one, do question how much we really know and understand about climate change and how man effects it (if at all). But I like Jon Huntsman's approach that you go with the best info you got and deal with it. he seemed very practical in a lot of ways and really helped me challenge my own beliefs in some other areas...to try to be more practical.

ComeToTX

I don't know why it's hard to believe that releasing all sorts of shit into the air for 100+ years would have a negative result.

Close the garage door and sit in your car while it's running for an hour and it'll kill you! That's the shit we're pumping in the air. Why is it hard to believe that if it kills us it will kill the planet?