The Eddie Vedder LIE (WM3)

Blockhead

The last thread was locked/closed (for bringing eddies family into it)

This was written in the June 17th East Coast/Far west Sniper (playbill)
"came after 12 hours of Interrogation"

http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jmtl.html

8:00am: Squad meeting/discussed attempting to pick up Jessie Misskelley Jr in reference to his being a member of cult that Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin are said to be members of. Check possibility of his being a witness to homicide or any statements he may have overheard from Damien or anyone concerning the homicide.

9:13am: Detective Sgt. Mike Allen checked into service.

Detective Allen went to the residence of Jessie Misskelley Jr. to attempt to make contact. Contacted the female who was at the residence who informed that Jessie Jr was not at the residence. She informed Allen that he could go to Jim’s Diesel Repair and meet with Jessie Misskelley Sr.

9:45am: Allen went to Jim’s repair and met with Jessie Sr who went and picked up Jessie Misskelley Jr. Jessie Misskelley Jr then went with Detective Sgt Allen to the West Memphis Police Department.

10:00am: Detective Sgt Allen filled out the subject description form and the interview began with the questions or any knowledge he had of the homicide and his whereabouts on the day of the homicide.

11:00am: Detective Sgt Allen read Jessie Misskelley Jr his rights according to the Miranda Rule with Detective Ridge being a witness to the procedure. It was determined that it would be necessary for Misskelley Sr to sign a consent to allow Jessie Jr. to submit to a polygraph examination.

11:15am: Detective Sgt Allen went with Jessie Misskelley Jr to find his father to obtain consent to take a polygraph examination. Sgt. Allen had Jessie riding as a unsecured passenger in the front seat at which time he met Jessie at or near Missouri Street and Shopping Way. Sgt. Allen met with Jessie Misskelley Sr at Chief's Auto Parts where he explained the upcoming procedure and obtained a written consent for Jessie Misskelley Jr to take a polygraph examination.

11:30am: Jessie Misskelley Jr was read his rights according to the Miranda Rule by Bill Durham prior to his administering a polygraph examination.

# 006047

11:55am: First chart was completed during polygraph examination.

12:03pm: Second chart completed during polygraph examination

12:11pm: Third chart completed during polygraph examination. After the test about 15 minutes were spent in the post test interview.

12:30pm: Bill Durham advised detective ridge, Inspector Gitchell, and Sgt Mike Allen that Jessie Misskelley Jr was being deceptive in his responses to the relevant questions asked during the polygraph examination.

12:40pm: It was decided that detective ridge and Inspector Gitchell would continue the interview.

2:20pm: Jessie states to Inspector Gitchell that he was present when the three boys were killed. Preparations were begun to tape the rest of the interrogation when it was determined that Jessie was a direct witness or a participant of the homicide.

2:44pm: The taped confession began with Jessie Misskelley Jr being questioned by Detective Ridge and Inspector Gitchell.

3:18pm: The taped confession was completed. Work was started in reference to obtaining search warrants and arrest warrants for the persons named as participants in the homicide.

3:22pm: Jessie Jr offered food which he declined and was given two cigarettes.

[the word "incorrect" is written in margin] 3:45pm Inspector Gitchell conducted a second interview with Jessie Misskelley Jr to clear up some discrepancies concerning time and events in the first interview.

5:05pm: Jessie Jr asked if he wanted any food to eat.

6:15pm: Jessie Jr was fed.

6:30pm: Jessie Jr was asked if he want to relieve himself.

9:06pm: Ridge, Gitchell, Fogelman present for a probable cause hearing with Judge P Rainey presiding.

9:14pm: Testimony was given concerning the probable cause for the search warrants and arrest warrants for those involved in the homicide.

Any sort of interrogation was over by 5pm. If my math is correct 10am to 5pm is 7 hours. Taped confession was complete by 3:18 pm.
I see alot of people post about Eddie being some sort of expert on this case, and many people saying they trust his judgement.
Any reason why he would lie, and why do you continue to support him on this case?

cincybearcat

You don't need 3 different threads (one that gets locked). Really? Let it go before they let you go.

Blockhead

cincybearcat wrote:

You don't need 3 different threads (one that gets locked). Really? Let it go before they let you go.

Why would this get locked?
I though PJ/Eddie were for the Truth...

Godfather.

Blockhead wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

You don't need 3 different threads (one that gets locked). Really? Let it go before they let you go.

Why would this get locked?
I though PJ/Eddie were for the Truth...

I agree with all you have popsted except the lieing by EV part I believe he had a gut feeling about these 3 and wanted to help(bad idea) but with all the links and doc's you have posted I believe these 3 guys were involved with the murders in some way or killed the little boys them selfs.

Godfather.

Wilds

I don't follow this case very closely. I have read however numerous blogs, posts, and articles over the years.

I have seen multiple versions of what happened. It is highly disputed all over the web.

I don't think anything written by E.V. would constitute a lie.

As it goes in politics people glob onto their version of the truth. Just like in politics these truths are often blurred, but it doesn't mean that the author or regurgitator doesn't believe these things strongly.

Let us dwell on a few paragraphs written by "Ed" based on a giant case that has everyone confused as to what happened, how it happened, when it happened, who was involved, and who mishandled evidence, botched the investigation, was pressured into a sloppy witch hunt, etc.

Or Not.

Guilty or not they were not given a fair trial IMO.

I think that is what this all comes down to.

Eddie feels strongly in this so he expresses himself as such.

I respect that stance.

maj4e

Who gives a shit. How many lies were told by the other side?

Just get up go to work and live your life. Relax.

Blockhead

Godfather. wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

cincybearcat wrote:

You don't need 3 different threads (one that gets locked). Really? Let it go before they let you go.

Why would this get locked?
I though PJ/Eddie were for the Truth...

I agree with all you have popsted except the lieing by EV part I believe he had a gut feeling about these 3 and wanted to help(bad idea) but with all the links and doc's you have posted I believe these 3 guys were involved with the murders in some way or killed the little boys them selfs.

Godfather.

Why would he put in his playbill something that is not true?
Why not present the information truthfully and let people make up their own minds?
If this quote was from a politician people would be all over it, but since its Eddie, everyone is being defensive about it.
I don't understand, do people want the truth, or do they just want to agree with who they support?

Blockhead

Wilds wrote:

I don't follow this case very closely. I have read however numerous blogs, posts, and articles over the years.

I have seen multiple versions of what happened. It is highly disputed all over the web.

If you are an intelligent thinking person then I don't think anything written by E.V. would constitute a lie.

As it goes in politics people glob onto their version of the truth. Just like in politics these truths are often blurred, but it doesn't mean that the author or regurgitator doesn't believe these things strongly.

Let us dwell on a few paragraphs written by "Ed" based on a giant case that has everyone confused as to what happened, how it happened, when it happened, who was involved, and who mishandled evidence, botched the investigation, was pressured into a sloppy witch hunt, etc.

Or Not.

Guilty or not they were not given a fair trial IMO.

I think that is what this all comes down to.

Eddie feels strongly in this so he expresses himself as such.

I respect that stance.

Or you could just read what I posted and see that It was a LIE...

Blockhead

maj4e wrote:

Who gives a shit. How many lies were told by the other side?

Just get up go to work and live your life. Relax.

I give a shit.
PJ has been a big influence/part of my life, and my favorite band.
One of that reasons is their stance (especially Eddie's) on truth.
I don't agree with them on everything (political) but I respect it.
But to be as influential as Eddie is and write something to your fans that is not true is saddening.
Why not let your fan base make up with own minds and present the information without twisting it?

BinauralJam

Blockhead, have you ever been arrested?

Godfather.

all that goes back to what I have been saying about using celeb statis to influance the public about a case like this,so so wrong and to print it on a play bill is just crazy in my opinion..but hay you don't see my name on the marque "live tonight only Godfather." on the final leg of his "free all ax murders tour"

Godfather.

Blockhead

BinauralJam wrote:

Blockhead, have you ever been arrested?

Huh?

Byrnzie

Godfather. wrote:

I agree with all you have popsted except the lieing by EV part I believe he had a gut feeling about these 3 and wanted to help(bad idea) but with all the links and doc's you have posted I believe these 3 guys were involved with the murders in some way or killed the little boys them selfs.

Godfather.

So you think Eddie Vedder would risk his career and reputation based on a gut feeling? Not to mention the insult to the families of the three murdered boys?


This place never ceases to amaze me.

Wilds

Blockhead wrote:

Wilds wrote:

I don't follow this case very closely. I have read however numerous blogs, posts, and articles over the years.

I have seen multiple versions of what happened. It is highly disputed all over the web.

If you are an intelligent thinking person then I don't think anything written by E.V. would constitute a lie.

As it goes in politics people glob onto their version of the truth. Just like in politics these truths are often blurred, but it doesn't mean that the author or regurgitator doesn't believe these things strongly.

Let us dwell on a few paragraphs written by "Ed" based on a giant case that has everyone confused as to what happened, how it happened, when it happened, who was involved, and who mishandled evidence, botched the investigation, was pressured into a sloppy witch hunt, etc.

Or Not.

Guilty or not they were not given a fair trial IMO.

I think that is what this all comes down to.

Eddie feels strongly in this so he expresses himself as such.

I respect that stance.

Or you could just read what I posted and see that It was a LIE...

If I say I'm going to meet you at 5pm and I don't show up until 5:30 I'm not lying. I'm relaying information I thought to be true.

That is what I'm saying. In the 'Two of the West Memphis Three to be released' other posters dispute that time frame.

I'm not disputing it, I don't know, I'm just saying E.V. seems to have stated a different version of that time line.

Since those investigators (who wrote the above timeline) seem to have come under scrutiny, and the entire case is under scrutiny, I don't think it is a lie to believe in a different truth than you have written.

If that timeline as stated by you is off by a few minutes, IS THAT A LIE?

Godfather.

BinauralJam wrote:

Blockhead, have you ever been arrested?

wow Bro tha's kind of a personal question.......I have once or twice..

Godfather.

Byrnzie

Blockhead wrote:

But to be as influential as Eddie is and write something to your fans that is not true is saddening.

The only person who's been lying about the case here on this message board is you.

Godfather.

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

I agree with all you have popsted except the lieing by EV part I believe he had a gut feeling about these 3 and wanted to help(bad idea) but with all the links and doc's you have posted I believe these 3 guys were involved with the murders in some way or killed the little boys them selfs.

Godfather.

So you think Eddie Vedder would risk his career and reputation based on a gut feeling? Not to mention the insult to the families of the three murdered boys?


This place never ceases to amaze me.

he already has man...read the doc's Bro.

Godfather.

Blockhead

Byrnzie wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

But to be as influential as Eddie is and write something to your fans that is not true is saddening.

The only person who's been lying about the case here on this message board is you.

Why don't you address the OP...

Byrnzie

Blockhead wrote:

The last thread was locked/closed (for bringing eddies family into it)

This was written in the June 17th East Coast/Far west Sniper (playbill)
"came after 12 hours of Interrogation"

http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jmtl.html

8:00am: Squad meeting/discussed attempting to pick up Jessie Misskelley Jr in reference to his being a member of cult that Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin are said to be members of. Check possibility of his being a witness to homicide or any statements he may have overheard from Damien or anyone concerning the homicide.

9:13am: Detective Sgt. Mike Allen checked into service.

Detective Allen went to the residence of Jessie Misskelley Jr. to attempt to make contact. Contacted the female who was at the residence who informed that Jessie Jr was not at the residence. She informed Allen that he could go to Jim’s Diesel Repair and meet with Jessie Misskelley Sr.

9:45am: Allen went to Jim’s repair and met with Jessie Sr who went and picked up Jessie Misskelley Jr. Jessie Misskelley Jr then went with Detective Sgt Allen to the West Memphis Police Department.

10:00am: Detective Sgt Allen filled out the subject description form and the interview began with the questions or any knowledge he had of the homicide and his whereabouts on the day of the homicide.

11:00am: Detective Sgt Allen read Jessie Misskelley Jr his rights according to the Miranda Rule with Detective Ridge being a witness to the procedure. It was determined that it would be necessary for Misskelley Sr to sign a consent to allow Jessie Jr. to submit to a polygraph examination.

11:15am: Detective Sgt Allen went with Jessie Misskelley Jr to find his father to obtain consent to take a polygraph examination. Sgt. Allen had Jessie riding as a unsecured passenger in the front seat at which time he met Jessie at or near Missouri Street and Shopping Way. Sgt. Allen met with Jessie Misskelley Sr at Chief's Auto Parts where he explained the upcoming procedure and obtained a written consent for Jessie Misskelley Jr to take a polygraph examination.

11:30am: Jessie Misskelley Jr was read his rights according to the Miranda Rule by Bill Durham prior to his administering a polygraph examination.

# 006047

11:55am: First chart was completed during polygraph examination.

12:03pm: Second chart completed during polygraph examination

12:11pm: Third chart completed during polygraph examination. After the test about 15 minutes were spent in the post test interview.

12:30pm: Bill Durham advised detective ridge, Inspector Gitchell, and Sgt Mike Allen that Jessie Misskelley Jr was being deceptive in his responses to the relevant questions asked during the polygraph examination.

12:40pm: It was decided that detective ridge and Inspector Gitchell would continue the interview.

2:20pm: Jessie states to Inspector Gitchell that he was present when the three boys were killed. Preparations were begun to tape the rest of the interrogation when it was determined that Jessie was a direct witness or a participant of the homicide.

2:44pm: The taped confession began with Jessie Misskelley Jr being questioned by Detective Ridge and Inspector Gitchell.

3:18pm: The taped confession was completed. Work was started in reference to obtaining search warrants and arrest warrants for the persons named as participants in the homicide.

3:22pm: Jessie Jr offered food which he declined and was given two cigarettes.

[the word "incorrect" is written in margin] 3:45pm Inspector Gitchell conducted a second interview with Jessie Misskelley Jr to clear up some discrepancies concerning time and events in the first interview.

5:05pm: Jessie Jr asked if he wanted any food to eat.

6:15pm: Jessie Jr was fed.

6:30pm: Jessie Jr was asked if he want to relieve himself.

9:06pm: Ridge, Gitchell, Fogelman present for a probable cause hearing with Judge P Rainey presiding.

9:14pm: Testimony was given concerning the probable cause for the search warrants and arrest warrants for those involved in the homicide.

Any sort of interrogation was over by 5pm. If my math is correct 10am to 5pm is 7 hours. Taped confession was complete by 3:18 pm.
I see alot of people post about Eddie being some sort of expert on this case, and many people saying they trust his judgement.
Any reason why he would lie, and why do you continue to support him on this case?

He was in police custody for at least eleven hours the day of the first so-called 'confession'.

So this makes Ed Vedder a liar?

Pathetic.

Byrnzie

Godfather. wrote:

read the doc's Bro.

Godfather.

I already have.

So where's your smoking gun?

Blockhead

Byrnzie wrote:

Blockhead wrote:

The last thread was locked/closed (for bringing eddies family into it)

This was written in the June 17th East Coast/Far west Sniper (playbill)
"came after 12 hours of Interrogation"

http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/jmtl.html

8:00am: Squad meeting/discussed attempting to pick up Jessie Misskelley Jr in reference to his being a member of cult that Damien Echols and Jason Baldwin are said to be members of. Check possibility of his being a witness to homicide or any statements he may have overheard from Damien or anyone concerning the homicide.

9:13am: Detective Sgt. Mike Allen checked into service.

Detective Allen went to the residence of Jessie Misskelley Jr. to attempt to make contact. Contacted the female who was at the residence who informed that Jessie Jr was not at the residence. She informed Allen that he could go to Jim’s Diesel Repair and meet with Jessie Misskelley Sr.

9:45am: Allen went to Jim’s repair and met with Jessie Sr who went and picked up Jessie Misskelley Jr. Jessie Misskelley Jr then went with Detective Sgt Allen to the West Memphis Police Department.

10:00am: Detective Sgt Allen filled out the subject description form and the interview began with the questions or any knowledge he had of the homicide and his whereabouts on the day of the homicide.

11:00am: Detective Sgt Allen read Jessie Misskelley Jr his rights according to the Miranda Rule with Detective Ridge being a witness to the procedure. It was determined that it would be necessary for Misskelley Sr to sign a consent to allow Jessie Jr. to submit to a polygraph examination.

11:15am: Detective Sgt Allen went with Jessie Misskelley Jr to find his father to obtain consent to take a polygraph examination. Sgt. Allen had Jessie riding as a unsecured passenger in the front seat at which time he met Jessie at or near Missouri Street and Shopping Way. Sgt. Allen met with Jessie Misskelley Sr at Chief's Auto Parts where he explained the upcoming procedure and obtained a written consent for Jessie Misskelley Jr to take a polygraph examination.

11:30am: Jessie Misskelley Jr was read his rights according to the Miranda Rule by Bill Durham prior to his administering a polygraph examination.

# 006047

11:55am: First chart was completed during polygraph examination.

12:03pm: Second chart completed during polygraph examination

12:11pm: Third chart completed during polygraph examination. After the test about 15 minutes were spent in the post test interview.

12:30pm: Bill Durham advised detective ridge, Inspector Gitchell, and Sgt Mike Allen that Jessie Misskelley Jr was being deceptive in his responses to the relevant questions asked during the polygraph examination.

12:40pm: It was decided that detective ridge and Inspector Gitchell would continue the interview.

2:20pm: Jessie states to Inspector Gitchell that he was present when the three boys were killed. Preparations were begun to tape the rest of the interrogation when it was determined that Jessie was a direct witness or a participant of the homicide.

2:44pm: The taped confession began with Jessie Misskelley Jr being questioned by Detective Ridge and Inspector Gitchell.

3:18pm: The taped confession was completed. Work was started in reference to obtaining search warrants and arrest warrants for the persons named as participants in the homicide.

3:22pm: Jessie Jr offered food which he declined and was given two cigarettes.

[the word "incorrect" is written in margin] 3:45pm Inspector Gitchell conducted a second interview with Jessie Misskelley Jr to clear up some discrepancies concerning time and events in the first interview.

5:05pm: Jessie Jr asked if he wanted any food to eat.

6:15pm: Jessie Jr was fed.

6:30pm: Jessie Jr was asked if he want to relieve himself.

9:06pm: Ridge, Gitchell, Fogelman present for a probable cause hearing with Judge P Rainey presiding.

9:14pm: Testimony was given concerning the probable cause for the search warrants and arrest warrants for those involved in the homicide.

Any sort of interrogation was over by 5pm. If my math is correct 10am to 5pm is 7 hours. Taped confession was complete by 3:18 pm.
I see alot of people post about Eddie being some sort of expert on this case, and many people saying they trust his judgement.
Any reason why he would lie, and why do you continue to support him on this case?

He was in police custody for at least eleven hours the day of the first so-called 'confession'.

So this makes Ed Vedder a liar?

Pathetic.

again 11 hours in custody is not 12 of interrogation.
AND he was not interrogated after 5pm.