Worst Show of The Tour.... Guesses

wwfairfield
wwfairfield Posts: 216
edited June 2008 in The Porch
Which show , aside from bonnaroo , do you believe will have the weakest setlist/ weakest show ??
Who will get the shaft? and why
back to back, first show, travel, strain, venue, city....etc....
give reasons

don't give me that "every pj show is great" crap

we all know that some sets are better than other (some sets mothers are better than other sets mothers...)

let me hear from ya america
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  • Chris1401
    Chris1401 Posts: 354
    Both MSG's. :)
  • Why would anyone really want to consider that whatever show(s) they are going to could be on the weak side? Wait till they've happened to analyze them.
    2003: Toronto
    2005: Kitchener/Hamilton/Toronto
    2006: Toronto 1 & 2
    2008: Hartford/EV Toronto 1 & 2
    2009: Toronto/Philadelphia 3 & 4
    2010: Buffalo
    2011: Montreal/Toronto 1 & 2/Hamilton
    2013: London/Buffalo/Vancouver/Seattle
    2016: Toronto 1 & 2
    2022: Hamilton/Toronto
    2023: EV Seattle 1&2
  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    Why would anyone really want to consider that whatever show(s) they are going to could be on the weak side? Wait till they've happened to analyze them.


    that is like waiting to give birth before giving up heroin
    or something...
  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,119
    Which show , aside from bonnaroo , do you believe will have the weakest setlist/ weakest show ??
    Who will get the shaft? and why
    back to back, first show, travel, strain, venue, city....etc....
    give reasons

    don't give me that "every pj show is great" crap

    we all know that some sets are better than other (some sets mothers are better than other sets mothers...)

    let me hear from ya america
    Why do you always have to be so negative on here?
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    2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
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    2012: Music Midtown
    2014: Memphis
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Jacksonville, JazzFest
    2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
    2022: Nashville
    2023: Ft. Worth II
    2024: Baltimore
    2025: Hollywood II
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,442
    Which show , aside from bonnaroo , do you believe will have the weakest setlist/ weakest show ??
    Who will get the shaft? and why
    back to back, first show, travel, strain, venue, city....etc....
    give reasons

    don't give me that "every pj show is great" crap

    we all know that some sets are better than other (some sets mothers are better than other sets mothers...)

    let me hear from ya america

    whatever show you're going to... way to be a downer..
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
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    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    look holmes, it is a simple question
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,442
    and i'm just kidding around..
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    and i'm just kidding around..


    thanks bro

    screen name = singles reference
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    Washington DC, Virginia, and Hartford are most likely to be not as good.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,442
    thanks bro

    screen name = singles reference

    how observant of you.
    Reading 2004
    Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    I think they will all be good

    for one they haven't played the south in 5 years..so they will do their best to make up for the wait..the bigger city shows are always good anyway.

    You know whats funny though is they could go to Va Beach and play a 24 song setlist of all hits and throw in 'No Way' and everyone on here will be jizzin over how great a setlist it was and how great a show was.
  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    Which show , aside from bonnaroo , do you believe will have the weakest setlist/ weakest show ??
    Who will get the shaft? and why
    back to back, first show, travel, strain, venue, city....etc....
    give reasons

    don't give me that "every pj show is great" crap

    we all know that some sets are better than other (some sets mothers are better than other sets mothers...)

    let me hear from ya america



    Every show is unique in it's own way.
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    Every show is unique in it's own way.

    Yeah, some are unique in that they aren't as good.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
    -Reagan
  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    thunderDAN wrote:
    I think they will all be good

    for one they haven't played the south in 5 years..so they will do their best to make up for the wait..the bigger city shows are always good anyway.

    You know whats funny though is they could go to Va Beach and play a 24 song setlist of all hits and throw in 'No Way' and everyone on here will be jizzin over how great a setlist it was and how great a show was.


    great post
    that is the type of thoughtful response i was fishing for
  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    MattyJoe wrote:
    Yeah, some are unique in that they aren't as good.


    Well what is a good show for you?

    It's different for everybody and come on they always put on a great show. Is it a bad show cause you didn't get to hear a certain you wanted to hear. A good show for me is when they don't play Last Kiss. LOL
  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    Well what is a good show for you?


    a complete absence of the first two albums and that last POS album

    random selections, tagged heavily, from albums 3-7 with some lost dogs & b sides
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    A good show is a dynamic show, a show that brings you on a journey.

    1. Start off with a bang, playing really rockin songs
    2. Ease it down a little, play some more laid back songs, a few rarities
    3. Bring it back up for the end of the set
    4. Finish off with a bang (like Rearviewmirror or Porch)

    Encore:
    1. Start off with some very quiet songs, acoustic
    2. Do some more rarities, slowly building up again
    3. End with a bang

    (Possible 2nd totally hard rock Encore)

    That is the structure of many of their shows but sometimes it doesn't work based on the song choices. And sometimes they don't even stick to that structure and just go all out and play hard stuff the whole night (they do that a lot at the outdoor amphitheater shows, and at festivals, mostly because of the environment and what people are expecting).

    A good example of a good show for me is 7-10-06 LA Forum.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
    -Reagan
  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    you know what though, arguably the best show of the 2006 tour didn't have a spectacular setlist. San Diego's setlist was decent at best, but I think it was the best show because of Ed's interactions and how well the show was played. That show is often regarded as the best of the 06 tour (myself included) but it really only contained 2 'epic' songs- if you wanna call them that- Leash and Crown of Thorns. I think Grand Rapids and even Cleveland may have had better setlists.

    Plus, Grand Rapids was the smallest town on the 2006 tour and still produced a great show so you can't always go by that.

    Also, Cleveland was the night after Grand Rapids and Cleveland was a top 5 show from the 2006 tour so travel isn't always something you can measure..as I rate:

    1. San Diego
    2. Albany
    3. Boston 2
    4. Cleveland
    5. Grand Rapids
  • thunderDAN
    thunderDAN Posts: 2,094
    I chose to go to the Virginia Beach show because it is the last they are doing with KOL. If there is any chance for a KOL sighting during the 2nd encore it will be at Va. Beach. I'm holding out hope Caleb knows the song Hunger Strike.
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    a complete absence of the first two albums and that last POS album

    random selections, tagged heavily, from albums 3-7 with some lost dogs & b sides


    if you judge a show solely by the setlist (which you are) then that's just weak...


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