Really Alpine?

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  • PissBottleMan
    PissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    patrickredeyes wrote:

    Don't loose any sleep over those comments.

    They really don't bother me at all...I'm not going. Just debating the issue. When you are dealing with paying customers, a more sensible head should prevail.

    Enjoy the weekend at AV.

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  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    PillowPants wrote:

    hopefully the person is in the know and it's not Crazy Breed bored at work ;)
    hope not... :lol:
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  • patrickredeyes
    patrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    PillowPants wrote:
    what does facebook have to do with this?


    i think it's refreshing to get actual answers with the PR spin

    it won't last if someone reports this up through the ranks... but i find it valuable


    like i said... we're getting answers

    hopefully the person is in the know and it's not Crazy Breed bored at work ;)


    Whoever is doing the PR over at Alpine's fb page they know what's going on 100%. :P
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,840
    I don't blame the Alpine Valley person for getting snippy. He/she has to deal with overzealous fans who think they know more then the actual promoter who has expertise in the field.

    Odds are, AV has reasons for what they allow/disallow based on prior experience.
  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    and in the end....seriously..someone plan a whole weekend to see pj..in the middle of nowhere as they say..
    pay hotel,gas,rent car,tickets...if is like me travel from the other side of the planet for this..
    and all will be ruled..for a poster tube?????????? if u get it out,or in the venue??????? :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    ..

    :lol:
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  • rick1zoo2
    rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    I don't blame the Alpine Valley person for getting snippy. He/she has to deal with overzealous fans who think they know more then the actual promoter who has expertise in the field.

    Odds are, AV has reasons for what they allow/disallow based on prior experience.


    yes, it seems to me he/she was responding to a few people that were just posting negative comments and he/she was just pointing out that they weren't contributing anything to the thread.

    and yes, they have very good reasons for allowing/disallowing things. and actually I think they have a much, much more liberal policy as compared to a lot of other places I have been to.

    the bottle caps are so that if the full, closed bottle is thrown it is like a solid object and it will hurt people. without the cap, the liquid comes out as it travels in the air, won't hurt so bad.

    poster tubes - people can smuggle things in to venue, too much for security to check them all
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,437
    I can imagine a PR rep is one of the toughest jobs out there. When you know people are spouting lies, spreading slander, being rude and insulting; your job is to bite your tongue and do damage control, and often aren't allowed to tell all of the details that would cover your own ass. This guy had a few slips, but generally, he has answered valid complaints with valid reasons.
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  • CloneOfASon
    CloneOfASon Madison, WI Posts: 1,080
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    the bottle caps are so that if the full, closed bottle is thrown it is like a solid object and it will hurt people. without the cap, the liquid comes out as it travels in the air, won't hurt so bad.
    They said bottle caps are fine didn't they? Not trying to bitch but it would really suck having to carry around a bunch of open water all day.
  • rick1zoo2
    rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    CloneOfASon wrote:
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    the bottle caps are so that if the full, closed bottle is thrown it is like a solid object and it will hurt people. without the cap, the liquid comes out as it travels in the air, won't hurt so bad.
    They said bottle caps are fine didn't they? Not trying to bitch but it would really suck having to carry around a bunch of open water all day.


    not sure what Alpine's policy is on caps. I just know that is the reason a lot of places don't allow them. At a show at the New Meadowlands in NJ this summer, you were allowed to bring in a bottle of water, but on the way in security opened it and poured into a big paper cup. at least we had water, it was extremely hot
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,725
    tremors wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    and in the end....seriously..someone plan a whole weekend to see pj..in the middle of nowhere as they say..
    pay hotel,gas,rent car,tickets...if is like me travel from the other side of the planet for this..
    and all will be ruled..for a poster tube?????????? if u get it out,or in the venue??????? :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    ..

    :lol:
    its like , u have the best dinner,drink the best wine ever,go to a suite of 7 stars hotel ,you have Monica bellucci in bed naked
    and you dont like the color of your condom... :lol::lol::lol:
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  • tremors
    tremors Posts: 8,051
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    tremors wrote:
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    and in the end....seriously..someone plan a whole weekend to see pj..in the middle of nowhere as they say..
    pay hotel,gas,rent car,tickets...if is like me travel from the other side of the planet for this..
    and all will be ruled..for a poster tube?????????? if u get it out,or in the venue??????? :lol::lol::lol::lol:
    ..

    :lol:
    its like , u have the best dinner,drink the best wine ever,go to a suite of 7 stars hotel ,you have Monica bellucci in bed naked
    and you dont like the color of your condom... :lol::lol::lol:


    hehehe - you crack me up sometimes dimi :lol:
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  • Jim Tressel
    Jim Tressel Posts: 138
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    CloneOfASon wrote:
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    the bottle caps are so that if the full, closed bottle is thrown it is like a solid object and it will hurt people. without the cap, the liquid comes out as it travels in the air, won't hurt so bad.
    They said bottle caps are fine didn't they? Not trying to bitch but it would really suck having to carry around a bunch of open water all day.


    not sure what Alpine's policy is on caps. I just know that is the reason a lot of places don't allow them. At a show at the New Meadowlands in NJ this summer, you were allowed to bring in a bottle of water, but on the way in security opened it and poured into a big paper cup. at least we had water, it was extremely hot

    I wonder as well...some people I hear are interested in maybe disguising their water as vodka by screwing the cap back on...I wonder how thorough their searches are....just wondering for those other people of course
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    I have no problem whatsoever with the Alpine comments.

    It says you cant bring a tube into the venue. Probably dont want you hiding drugs, alcohol, knives, fireworks...yes I have seen people try to smuggle all this stuff in there. I saw a guy try to smuggle his snake into a concert there once. So I have no problem with them not allowing tubes.
    I am also thankful they will allow you to buy one. But if you dont want that, you can keep your tube in your car, buy a poster from the outside merch table, and bring your poster back to your car and put it into your tube.

    I dont see what the problem is. And I dont think he/she was being all thatrude either.

    Its crazy how the customer can be as rude as they like, but the business has to be polite. I dont get it.
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    Jim Tressel wrote:

    I wonder as well...some people I hear are interested in maybe disguising their water as vodka by screwing the cap back on...I wonder how thorough their searches are....just wondering for those other people of course


    They do this so you cant throw a bottle of water/beer at the stage. A beer in a cup wont go as far, because the beer spills out....

    That being said, they are allowing people to bring in their own water because of the length of the show. They just want it factory sealed so you dont bring in a gallon of vodka or tequila. Or something even more flammable.
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  • cherrycoke
    cherrycoke Posts: 72
    CloneOfASon wrote:
    I wanna know what I'm supposed to do with my pig carcass?! :lol::lol:


    HAHA!

    Anyway, it's not whine-y to hold a discussion. I worked at the cable company, and dealt with assholes day in and out. But, I NEVER got snippy with my customers, even if they did "deserve" it.


    They can be as in-polite as they want, but its only going to hurt their own image to go on snide FB rants.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,610
    cherrycoke wrote:

    Anyway, it's not whine-y to hold a discussion. I worked at the cable company, and dealt with assholes day in and out. But, I NEVER got snippy with my customers, even if they did "deserve" it.


    They can be as in-polite as they want, but its only going to hurt their own image to go on snide FB rants.


    Agreed. I would LOVE to go off on some of my customers but the day I do is the day I'll be looking for a new job. It just is not good business to let yourself get into a pissing contest with paying customers. When that contest is taking place in a public forum like Facebook it is even worse.
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  • CloneOfASon
    CloneOfASon Madison, WI Posts: 1,080
    Jim Tressel wrote:
    I wonder as well...some people I hear are interested in maybe disguising their water as vodka by screwing the cap back on...I wonder how thorough their searches are....just wondering for those other people of course

    At Lollapalooza this year they didn't even bother to look at seals let alone what color the fluid was, just kinda felt it was plastic through the backpack. This is AV though... Realistically there is no way that security can check every seal on every bottle for everyone unless they had a shit ton of security or they want people waiting in line forever. So the cap thing seemed to make sense, but I suppose that would take time to unscrew all those caps.

    Now that I'm thinking about it, what about empty water bottles? They can't possible make people get rid of the caps from a Nalgene bottle or similar.

    Oh well. I've got more important things to worry about, like how I'm gonna dispose of my pig carcass ;)
  • ItIsAllAboutPJ
    ItIsAllAboutPJ S.B., CA Posts: 829
    Oh well. I've got more important things to worry about, like how I'm gonna dispose of my pig carcass ;)

    I agree, this is of the ut most importance!! :lol:
  • DS1119
    DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    CloneOfASon wrote:
    Oh well. I've got more important things to worry about, like how I'm gonna dispose of my pig carcass ;)


    You can probably find some help here:

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  • voodoopug
    voodoopug Posts: 1,011
    I agree with the venues statements. a small percentage of drunk idiots tend to ruin future good times for everyone else. They must be firm, but fair and it seems they are.

    We live in a world that is overpacked with negative people who will just complain to make themselves feel better about their own shortcomings.
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