So my view on Napster. The reason you have Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and whatever the hell else u use to stream is because of them. So THANK Metallica for that.
Also remember at the time bands made a ton on music sales.
This was also the beginning of bands getting huge deals and most bands weren't getting anything like the deals that Madonna and U2 made. You can also thank Napster for your high priced concert tix too.
What I was upset with was the ability to download any song from the site. I searched PJ and found a ton of songs I'd never heard before like Won't Back Down for example. Also songs that were long lost by other bands and out of print. It was GREAT to get these.
Well, now we have Youtube and you can find almost anything and everything unless the band is a dickhead and takes it down.
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
I don't think it is that easy. Metallica seem to do a lot for their fans too, like now during Corona. And when they tour they tour a lot. So if you are fan, it is almost like a service of them touring close to you. I guess it's only Africa they do not tour regularly on their long ass tours
They are not expecting every fan to fly to Berlin.
And I don't think them going against Napster was wrong. I don't remember the details though, so maybe Lars did something shitty back then. But stopping a software solely built around sharing stolen property... what's not to try and stop.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
I don't think it is that easy. Metallica seem to do a lot for their fans too, like now during Corona. And when they tour they tour a lot. So if you are fan, it is almost like a service of them touring close to you. I guess it's only Africa they do not tour regularly on their long ass tours
They are not expecting every fan to fly to Berlin.
And I don't think them going against Napster was wrong. I don't remember the details though, so maybe Lars did something shitty back then. But stopping a software solely built around sharing stolen property... what's not to try and stop.
Lars' big misstep was getting the names of users that had downloaded Metallica (I was actually one of the ones that swiped the rough mix of "I Disappear") and making them (us) seem like enemies, when we're all just fans and it's really the people that made the software that he should've been going after. Which he did...afterward.
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
I don't think it is that easy. Metallica seem to do a lot for their fans too, like now during Corona. And when they tour they tour a lot. So if you are fan, it is almost like a service of them touring close to you. I guess it's only Africa they do not tour regularly on their long ass tours
They are not expecting every fan to fly to Berlin.
And I don't think them going against Napster was wrong. I don't remember the details though, so maybe Lars did something shitty back then. But stopping a software solely built around sharing stolen property... what's not to try and stop.
Lars' big misstep was getting the names of users that had downloaded Metallica (I was actually one of the ones that swiped the rough mix of "I Disappear") and making them (us) seem like enemies, when we're all just fans and it's really the people that made the software that he should've been going after. Which he did...afterward.
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
I don't think it is that easy. Metallica seem to do a lot for their fans too, like now during Corona. And when they tour they tour a lot. So if you are fan, it is almost like a service of them touring close to you. I guess it's only Africa they do not tour regularly on their long ass tours
They are not expecting every fan to fly to Berlin.
And I don't think them going against Napster was wrong. I don't remember the details though, so maybe Lars did something shitty back then. But stopping a software solely built around sharing stolen property... what's not to try and stop.
Lars' big misstep was getting the names of users that had downloaded Metallica (I was actually one of the ones that swiped the rough mix of "I Disappear") and making them (us) seem like enemies, when we're all just fans and it's really the people that made the software that he should've been going after. Which he did...afterward.
I figured it was something like this. Him going after regular folks first.
At the same time, from their perspective - why would a fan download stuff that has been stolen and leaked from them. Is that really a fan. Etc.
now I'm gonna listen to that Limp Bizkit MI2 song.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
I don't think it is that easy. Metallica seem to do a lot for their fans too, like now during Corona. And when they tour they tour a lot. So if you are fan, it is almost like a service of them touring close to you. I guess it's only Africa they do not tour regularly on their long ass tours
They are not expecting every fan to fly to Berlin.
And I don't think them going against Napster was wrong. I don't remember the details though, so maybe Lars did something shitty back then. But stopping a software solely built around sharing stolen property... what's not to try and stop.
Lars' big misstep was getting the names of users that had downloaded Metallica (I was actually one of the ones that swiped the rough mix of "I Disappear") and making them (us) seem like enemies, when we're all just fans and it's really the people that made the software that he should've been going after. Which he did...afterward.
I figured it was something like this. Him going after regular folks first.
At the same time, from their perspective - why would a fan download stuff that has been stolen and leaked from them. Is that really a fan. Etc.
now I'm gonna listen to that Limp Bizkit MI2 song.
Yeah that's fair. I think what also ruffled their feathers was I Disappear wasn't even finished yet, and the rough mix was somehow leaked and available on Napster. That sort of thing would piss off any artist.
Side note, anyone else think the main riff from "I Disappear" sounds a lot like "Just A Girl" by PJ? That was my first thought when listening to the rough mix on Napster.
As for you being in Mission Impossible 2 Soundtrack mode now, I love the remix of Chris Cornell's "Mission" on that soundtrack. It was remixed as "Mission 2000." I've read that Chris hated the remix, but I love it. Movie soundtracks were awesome back in the day.
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Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
I don't think it is that easy. Metallica seem to do a lot for their fans too, like now during Corona. And when they tour they tour a lot. So if you are fan, it is almost like a service of them touring close to you. I guess it's only Africa they do not tour regularly on their long ass tours
They are not expecting every fan to fly to Berlin.
And I don't think them going against Napster was wrong. I don't remember the details though, so maybe Lars did something shitty back then. But stopping a software solely built around sharing stolen property... what's not to try and stop.
Lars' big misstep was getting the names of users that had downloaded Metallica (I was actually one of the ones that swiped the rough mix of "I Disappear") and making them (us) seem like enemies, when we're all just fans and it's really the people that made the software that he should've been going after. Which he did...afterward.
I figured it was something like this. Him going after regular folks first.
At the same time, from their perspective - why would a fan download stuff that has been stolen and leaked from them. Is that really a fan. Etc.
now I'm gonna listen to that Limp Bizkit MI2 song.
Yeah that's fair. I think what also ruffled their feathers was I Disappear wasn't even finished yet, and the rough mix was somehow leaked and available on Napster. That sort of thing would piss off any artist.
Side note, anyone else think the main riff from "I Disappear" sounds a lot like "Just A Girl" by PJ? That was my first thought when listening to the rough mix on Napster.
As for you being in Mission Impossible 2 Soundtrack mode now, I love the remix of Chris Cornell's "Mission" on that soundtrack. It was remixed as "Mission 2000." I've read that Chris hated the remix, but I love it. Movie soundtracks were awesome back in the day.
OH, never heard that one.
I just remember from the MTV days, that when the Metallica song came on feeling "Oh... this one really falls in the shadow of the Limp Bizkit song that is a huge hit". But using the MI theme will do that I guess.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
I don't think it is that easy. Metallica seem to do a lot for their fans too, like now during Corona. And when they tour they tour a lot. So if you are fan, it is almost like a service of them touring close to you. I guess it's only Africa they do not tour regularly on their long ass tours
They are not expecting every fan to fly to Berlin.
And I don't think them going against Napster was wrong. I don't remember the details though, so maybe Lars did something shitty back then. But stopping a software solely built around sharing stolen property... what's not to try and stop.
Lars' big misstep was getting the names of users that had downloaded Metallica (I was actually one of the ones that swiped the rough mix of "I Disappear") and making them (us) seem like enemies, when we're all just fans and it's really the people that made the software that he should've been going after. Which he did...afterward.
I figured it was something like this. Him going after regular folks first.
At the same time, from their perspective - why would a fan download stuff that has been stolen and leaked from them. Is that really a fan. Etc.
now I'm gonna listen to that Limp Bizkit MI2 song.
Yeah that's fair. I think what also ruffled their feathers was I Disappear wasn't even finished yet, and the rough mix was somehow leaked and available on Napster. That sort of thing would piss off any artist.
Side note, anyone else think the main riff from "I Disappear" sounds a lot like "Just A Girl" by PJ? That was my first thought when listening to the rough mix on Napster.
As for you being in Mission Impossible 2 Soundtrack mode now, I love the remix of Chris Cornell's "Mission" on that soundtrack. It was remixed as "Mission 2000." I've read that Chris hated the remix, but I love it. Movie soundtracks were awesome back in the day.
OH, never heard that one.
I just remember from the MTV days, that when the Metallica song came on feeling "Oh... this one really falls in the shadow of the Limp Bizkit song that is a huge hit". But using the MI theme will do that I guess.
Check it out. It's pretty cool. I prefer it to the Euphoria Morning version. But like I said, Chris didn't....
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S&M2 looks and feel as having as much heart and energy put into it as Superman IV: Quest for Peace.
And as forgettable as The Hobbit trilogy
Don’t see the point ot it.
They should have recorded in a cool looking classy place. They should have played a Unforgiven suite and Lars should not wear a fucking ball cap.
and how do you really feel?
Berlin '06 tonight. Looking at the setlist, pretty solid. Played Master of Puppets in it's entirety
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S&M2 looks and feel as having as much heart and energy put into it as Superman IV: Quest for Peace.
And as forgettable as The Hobbit trilogy
Don’t see the point ot it.
They should have recorded in a cool looking classy place. They should have played a Unforgiven suite and Lars should not wear a fucking ball cap.
and how do you really feel?
Berlin '06 tonight. Looking at the setlist, pretty solid. Played Master of Puppets in it's entirety
The Berlin show was pretty great I must say. Besides playing Master in it's entirety, They actually did a new song that they called "The New Song" which was pretty good
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tonights show they are showing one from his birthday in Dallas in 2000
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Drive in theater concert on 8/29. $115.00 a car, hard pass.
very hard pass. nearest drive in near me is like over an hour away. Plus too expensive. I'll just watch their Monday night shows on youtube which have been pretty good. Last night was a show in Munich, Germnay from 2004 i think
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We have a pop up drive in my town, so its easy to get to, but not paying $115.00 to sit in the car and basically watch a concert film. From what I gather its not even actually going to be live, shot and recorded ahead of time.
i will NEVER have an issue with metallica suing napster. they were stealing their product. i dont' give a shit if they were rich or poor. stealing is stealing. that's not being an asshole. that's wanting to be compensated for your work.
guess you are not a fan of the song Hunger Strike then?
lol, sure. let me know when soundgarden or pearl jam announce they are ok with fans stealing their music.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
so supposed greed is an excuse to steal now? so every time you go to walmart or starbucks, you walk out without paying?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
Why is everyone so mad at an artist/group being mad their music was being stolen? So they didn't want to give away stuff they(with their label) spent millions producing/distributing makes them bad? This wasn't like dubbing a cassette, not even close, millions of records not being sold, but being obtained illegally, oh sorry "shared". Every artist should have been pissed. Pearl Jam never gave albums away for free, they just didnt care people ripped them off and stole it. Then everyone was like it isnt Napstets fault...they just made a platform, but gun companies just make guns they dont kill people is the same argument.
It is against the law, they didn't like their product being stolen. The mob loved free shit, so it was the bands as bad guys....typical bassakwards thinking.
Metallica are dicks for a bunch of reasons. Who is “so mad” about it. It’s just typically Metallica who goes the extra mile to be that way. Rolling Stones sell tickets for outrageous prices, but at least you know it’s happening. Metallica buys up its own tickets, colluding with Live Nation to do so, after they set the prices. Did they decide they were too cheap after announcing or did they not want to reinforce the asshole image by having high prices to start? Who can say, only Lars and James. Dicks.
so supposed greed is an excuse to steal now? so every time you go to walmart or starbucks, you walk out without paying?
Yeah that's what I do and what I meant. Nailed it.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Watched For Whom the Bell Tolls from S&M2 on youtube.
Looks so fucking uninspired. The venue (a regular arena and not a cool, classy concert hall like the first one). The shots of the crowd. The band playing in that round stage setting and walking around. And that the camera-team doesn't seem to really have gone through shooting on a round stage beforehand, so a lot of the shots are messy. And all the ugly shot-in-shot stuff done in editing. Juck.
Looks like a chashgrab. Comes off as uninspired and forgettable as Unforgiven III.
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The reason you have Apple Music, Spotify, Pandora and whatever the hell else u use to stream is because of them. So THANK Metallica for that.
Also remember at the time bands made a ton on music sales.
This was also the beginning of bands getting huge deals and most bands weren't getting anything like the deals that Madonna and U2 made. You can also thank Napster for your high priced concert tix too.
What I was upset with was the ability to download any song from the site. I searched PJ and found a ton of songs I'd never heard before like Won't Back Down for example. Also songs that were long lost by other bands and out of print. It was GREAT to get these.
Well, now we have Youtube and you can find almost anything and everything unless the band is a dickhead and takes it down.
Lisbon '06 (x2)
Katowice '07
London '07 '09 (x2), '10
MSG NY '08 (x2)
Manchester '09 '12
Belfast '10
PJ20 Alpine '11 (x2)
Leeds '14
They are not expecting every fan to fly to Berlin.
And I don't think them going against Napster was wrong. I don't remember the details though, so maybe Lars did something shitty back then. But stopping a software solely built around sharing stolen property... what's not to try and stop.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
At the same time, from their perspective - why would a fan download stuff that has been stolen and leaked from them. Is that really a fan. Etc.
now I'm gonna listen to that Limp Bizkit MI2 song.
Side note, anyone else think the main riff from "I Disappear" sounds a lot like "Just A Girl" by PJ? That was my first thought when listening to the rough mix on Napster.
As for you being in Mission Impossible 2 Soundtrack mode now, I love the remix of Chris Cornell's "Mission" on that soundtrack. It was remixed as "Mission 2000." I've read that Chris hated the remix, but I love it. Movie soundtracks were awesome back in the day.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
I just remember from the MTV days, that when the Metallica song came on feeling "Oh... this one really falls in the shadow of the Limp Bizkit song that is a huge hit". But using the MI theme will do that I guess.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Metallica: Live in Bogotá, Colombia - May 2, 1999 (Full Concert)
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
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9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
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5/1/16- NYC
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9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
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9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
And as forgettable as The Hobbit trilogy
Don’t see the point ot it.
They should have recorded in a cool looking classy place. They should have played a Unforgiven suite and Lars should not wear a fucking ball cap.
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
2013-10-30 - Charlotte, NC
2016-04-16 - Greenville, SC
2016-04-20 - Raleigh, NC
2016-04-21 - Columbia, SC
2016-05-01 - New York, NY
2022-09-16 - Nashville, TN
2022-09-17 - Louisville, KY
2023-09-10 - Noblesville, IN
2023-09-13 - Fort Worth, TX
2023-09-15 - Fort Worth, TX
2024-08-26 - Noblesville, IN
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
tonights show they are showing one from his birthday in Dallas in 2000
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
$115.00 a car, hard pass.
very hard pass. nearest drive in near me is like over an hour away. Plus too expensive. I'll just watch their Monday night shows on youtube which have been pretty good. Last night was a show in Munich, Germnay from 2004 i think
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
From what I gather its not even actually going to be live, shot and recorded ahead of time.
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-EV 8/14/93
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
2013-10-30 - Charlotte, NC
2016-04-16 - Greenville, SC
2016-04-20 - Raleigh, NC
2016-04-21 - Columbia, SC
2016-05-01 - New York, NY
2022-09-16 - Nashville, TN
2022-09-17 - Louisville, KY
2023-09-10 - Noblesville, IN
2023-09-13 - Fort Worth, TX
2023-09-15 - Fort Worth, TX
2024-08-26 - Noblesville, IN
Looks so fucking uninspired. The venue (a regular arena and not a cool, classy concert hall like the first one). The shots of the crowd. The band playing in that round stage setting and walking around. And that the camera-team doesn't seem to really have gone through shooting on a round stage beforehand, so a lot of the shots are messy. And all the ugly shot-in-shot stuff done in editing. Juck.
Looks like a chashgrab. Comes off as uninspired and forgettable as Unforgiven III.