So sad, she was in such a fragile and troubled state,
and her family or friends couldn't save her. Perhaps she never should have been left alone. May she finally find peace.
the only person that could save her was herself and she didn't want the help and thusly she killed herself
an addict will never realize that till they hit rock bottom
I agree somewhat. I don't know any addicts. It's just too bad, she did not have a full-time guardian. Sadly, my cousin, 33, killed himself last year and I can't help but think ~ everyone knew he had problems. He never should have been left alone! And, if my sister had a drug problem, I'd make sure she did not die from an overdose. I would make it my life's mission to see to it. p.s. I also think the media probably made Amy Winehouse feel worse. People with problems need support, not ridicule. Everyone has feelings, drug addicts included.
Another thought ~ aren't drug dealers partially to blame.
My last message to you ~
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
Another thought ~ aren't drug dealers partially to blame.
To some extent yes, one of the real downsides of being famous is that drugs are that much more accessible. But given her addictive personality, no sooner had she come out of rehab for drug addiction and she was on to the booze.
Another thought ~ aren't drug dealers partially to blame.
To some extent yes, one of the real downsides of being famous is that drugs are that much more accessible. But given her addictive personality, no sooner had she come out of rehab for drug addiction and she was on to the booze.
There's where a full-time guardian would help ~ remove the alcohol, water it down, whatever it takes. Again, that is what I would do, if say, my husband drank too much. Even if someone has an addictive personality or refuses help, I still feel you can get through to them or at least protect them from harm.
My last message to you ~
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
Another thought ~ aren't drug dealers partially to blame.
To some extent yes, one of the real downsides of being famous is that drugs are that much more accessible. But given her addictive personality, no sooner had she come out of rehab for drug addiction and she was on to the booze.
There's where a full-time guardian would help ~ remove the alcohol, water it down, whatever it takes. Again, that is what I would do, if say, my husband drank too much. Even if someone has an addictive personality or refuses help, I still feel you can get through to them or at least protect them from harm.
I don't know, the other down side of being famous is that you can afford to do exactly as you please, you can shut out family and friends and surround yourself with 'yes men'. The other thing with addicts is how devious and deceptive they become to hide their addiction.
I don't know, the other down side of being famous is that you can afford to do exactly as you please, you can shut out family and friends and surround yourself with 'yes men'. The other thing with addicts is how devious and deceptive they become to hide their addiction.
don't forget how much life they can suck outta you weather money wise or living wise or both
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
I don't know, the other down side of being famous is that you can afford to do exactly as you please, you can shut out family and friends and surround yourself with 'yes men'. The other thing with addicts is how devious and deceptive they become to hide their addiction.
I see your point. I guess I wasn't thinking about the fame part. Sad, but true.
My last message to you ~
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
please don't make fun of denial and protection. Of course, people know that's not the case, but, still..respect...not trying to be a mod...just how I feel.. what do you expect them to say??
please don't make fun of denial and protection. Of course, people know that's not the case, but, still..respect...not trying to be a mod...just how I feel.. what do you expect them to say??
The thing is, junkie or not, it's still sad... Not only that she may have succumbed to the drugs/alcohol, but more so that they destroyed her life to begin with. Addiction is addiction, until any of us have gone through it (which I haven't, thankfully) it's just so easy to say 'oh well she shouldn't have gotten hooked on drugs'.
When I see a junkie downtown lying on the street while paramedics try to revive him, I feel sorry that his life became that way, I see how tragic it is that addiction led him down that path. Just because he is a junkie doesn't make it any less sad... The situation in its entirety is tragic - and millions of people suffer from it every day.
Another thought ~ aren't drug dealers partially to blame.
Correction: I meant partly not partially. :oops:
is the government partly to blame for all the alcoholics in the world for supplying it? no.
I'm a fucking alcoholic and I only blame myself. just because it's there doesn't mean i have to buy it. Just like you can't blame Mount Kilimanjaro for all the morons that have tried to climb it.
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Another thought ~ aren't drug dealers partially to blame.
Correction: I meant partly not partially. :oops:
is the government partly to blame for all the alcoholics in the world for supplying it? no.
I'm a fucking alcoholic and I only blame myself. just because it's there doesn't mean i have to buy it. Just like you can't blame Mount Kilimanjaro for all the morons that have tried to climb it.
Alcohol is legal, so, you're right, there is only one person to blame. Whereas, drugs are illegal and if dealers didn't exist, well, I think you get my point.
p.s. I hope you can find help through a program such as AA. Take care.
My last message to you ~
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
Alcohol is legal, so, you're right, there is only one person to blame. Whereas, drugs are illegal and if dealers didn't exist, well, I think you get my point.
p.s. I hope you can find help through a program such as AA. Take care.
legal or illegal is irrelevant (and plus, it's not illegal everywhere, and alcohol was once illegal). the provider is not to blame IMO. the consumer is.
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That's bizarre. I wonder what happened then. RIP Amy. If nothing was wrong with her heart, lungs, etc., and no drugs..seems like she just fell asleep and stopped breathing. Oohh...but it said 'illegal' substances.. maybe that wouldn't count prescription meds.
That's bizarre. I wonder what happened then. RIP Amy. If nothing was wrong with her heart, lungs, etc., and no drugs..seems like she just fell asleep and stopped breathing. Oohh...but it said 'illegal' substances.. maybe that wouldn't count prescription meds.
Good point.. I recon we will find out more soon enough.
It's actually the truth. Alcohol withdrawal can be lethal. The body is physically dependent on it, and a fatal reaction can occur (the "DTs" or tremors, leading up to life-threatening seizures). When I worked in the emergency department, we had to be hyper vigilant of alcoholic-dependent patients. If they were admitted, we started them on a protocol where they received regular doses of benzos to keep them from seizing.
Detoxing from alcohol is a very serious matter and requires medical oversight.
The thing that always struck me as weird, physiologically, is that heroin withrawal _ although uncomfortable _ is not in itself lethal.
Another thought ~ aren't drug dealers partially to blame.
To some extent yes, one of the real downsides of being famous is that drugs are that much more accessible. But given her addictive personality, no sooner had she come out of rehab for drug addiction and she was on to the booze.
There's where a full-time guardian would help ~ remove the alcohol, water it down, whatever it takes. Again, that is what I would do, if say, my husband drank too much. Even if someone has an addictive personality or refuses help, I still feel you can get through to them or at least protect them from harm.
it's clear that you've never known an addict. it's certainly not that easy. you are discounting the will of an addict to get intoxicated. not only that, but if you've ever tried to help an addict, you'll know that in most cases they are going to hate you for it until they decide to change which is maybe never. it takes a lot of mental toughness to deal with, especially if you really care about the person you are trying to help.
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She is a bit of a mystery... the deep pain and insecurity she was apparently self-medicating over, I haven't seen/read/heard anything about what it was based in. On the surface her family seems to have been supportive to her, but you never really know for sure about that when you are only judging on public statements and Amy herself, I never saw her talk about why she drank/used.
Will never forget a unique viewpoint I had, pretty sure it was Lollapalooza '07 (same year PJ played), and Amy Winehouse played too. I was adamant about getting to her stage early and seeing her set, and my viewpoint ended up allowing me to see into backstage as she arrived with her boyfriend and walked up to the stage. I was SO STRUCK by how fragile, frightened and resistant to going onstage she looked. Maybe that's not what she was feeling at all, but my gosh she looked terrified. Once she got onstage she seemed ok, although still a bit awkward. It was just so striking how fragile she looked. And probably was. Such a talent...
Amy Winehouse has been found dead at her home in London, it has been reported.
The Back To Black singer was apparently found at the property at around 4pm this afternoon and her death is believed to be treated as 'unexplained' by police.
It is thought her father Mitch has yet to find out about his daughter's untimely passing, as he is currently on his way to America to perform at a jazz festival.
Amy Winehouse has been found dead at her home in London, it has been reported.
The Back To Black singer was apparently found at the property at around 4pm this afternoon and her death is believed to be treated as 'unexplained' by police.
It is thought her father Mitch has yet to find out about his daughter's untimely passing, as he is currently on his way to America to perform at a jazz festival.
what???
another one gone too soon.
RIP
uh, this was 3 three years ago.
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I know this thread is old but bumping it all the same. Just went the the "Amy" movie. Amazing & so sad. Such a talent.
Does anyone know how to get a copy of her MTV Unplugged set? I've found it on youtube + my fiance(works in a record shop & can usually find something if anyone can) has checked but can't find it.
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I agree somewhat. I don't know any addicts. It's just too bad, she did not have a full-time guardian. Sadly, my cousin, 33, killed himself last year and I can't help but think ~ everyone knew he had problems. He never should have been left alone! And, if my sister had a drug problem, I'd make sure she did not die from an overdose. I would make it my life's mission to see to it. p.s. I also think the media probably made Amy Winehouse feel worse. People with problems need support, not ridicule. Everyone has feelings, drug addicts included.
Another thought ~ aren't drug dealers partially to blame.
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
At least, I am not a fuck-up! A lying fuck-up!
To some extent yes, one of the real downsides of being famous is that drugs are that much more accessible. But given her addictive personality, no sooner had she come out of rehab for drug addiction and she was on to the booze.
There's where a full-time guardian would help ~ remove the alcohol, water it down, whatever it takes. Again, that is what I would do, if say, my husband drank too much. Even if someone has an addictive personality or refuses help, I still feel you can get through to them or at least protect them from harm.
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
At least, I am not a fuck-up! A lying fuck-up!
I don't know, the other down side of being famous is that you can afford to do exactly as you please, you can shut out family and friends and surround yourself with 'yes men'. The other thing with addicts is how devious and deceptive they become to hide their addiction.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Correction: I meant partly not partially. :oops:
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
At least, I am not a fuck-up! A lying fuck-up!
I see your point. I guess I wasn't thinking about the fame part. Sad, but true.
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
At least, I am not a fuck-up! A lying fuck-up!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainme ... 6103696855
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When I see a junkie downtown lying on the street while paramedics try to revive him, I feel sorry that his life became that way, I see how tragic it is that addiction led him down that path. Just because he is a junkie doesn't make it any less sad... The situation in its entirety is tragic - and millions of people suffer from it every day.
is the government partly to blame for all the alcoholics in the world for supplying it? no.
I'm a fucking alcoholic and I only blame myself. just because it's there doesn't mean i have to buy it. Just like you can't blame Mount Kilimanjaro for all the morons that have tried to climb it.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Alcohol is legal, so, you're right, there is only one person to blame. Whereas, drugs are illegal and if dealers didn't exist, well, I think you get my point.
p.s. I hope you can find help through a program such as AA. Take care.
You're right. You are a monster! You are sick! Get help!
At least, I am not a fuck-up! A lying fuck-up!
legal or illegal is irrelevant (and plus, it's not illegal everywhere, and alcohol was once illegal). the provider is not to blame IMO. the consumer is.
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Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
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oh, and thanks. I'll be ok............
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It sure is, what a stupid theory.
Toxicology results show 'no illegal substances' in singer Amy Winehouse's body at time of death but 'alcohol was present', family says
Good point.. I recon we will find out more soon enough.
It's actually the truth. Alcohol withdrawal can be lethal. The body is physically dependent on it, and a fatal reaction can occur (the "DTs" or tremors, leading up to life-threatening seizures). When I worked in the emergency department, we had to be hyper vigilant of alcoholic-dependent patients. If they were admitted, we started them on a protocol where they received regular doses of benzos to keep them from seizing.
Detoxing from alcohol is a very serious matter and requires medical oversight.
The thing that always struck me as weird, physiologically, is that heroin withrawal _ although uncomfortable _ is not in itself lethal.
But, that's the way it is.
it's clear that you've never known an addict. it's certainly not that easy. you are discounting the will of an addict to get intoxicated. not only that, but if you've ever tried to help an addict, you'll know that in most cases they are going to hate you for it until they decide to change which is maybe never. it takes a lot of mental toughness to deal with, especially if you really care about the person you are trying to help.
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I forgot how rough she looked near the end. I don't know enough of the entire story. Is there a book worth reading about her?
Will never forget a unique viewpoint I had, pretty sure it was Lollapalooza '07 (same year PJ played), and Amy Winehouse played too. I was adamant about getting to her stage early and seeing her set, and my viewpoint ended up allowing me to see into backstage as she arrived with her boyfriend and walked up to the stage. I was SO STRUCK by how fragile, frightened and resistant to going onstage she looked. Maybe that's not what she was feeling at all, but my gosh she looked terrified. Once she got onstage she seemed ok, although still a bit awkward. It was just so striking how fragile she looked. And probably was. Such a talent...
I am sad for her family.
another one gone too soon.
RIP
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Does anyone know how to get a copy of her MTV Unplugged set? I've found it on youtube + my fiance(works in a record shop & can usually find something if anyone can) has checked but can't find it.
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