Pleasure Theory

decides2dream

The idea that both men's and women's main motivation for sex is based on pleasure. According to a new report in the journal of personality and psychology, women, like men, are more likely to get their freak on with one night stand prospects who seem to have sexual prowess. Pleausre theory rejects the idea that men are evolved to desire many partners while women are evolved to be monogamous, and claims instead that both genders are motivated by the same basic principle.



Firstly, a big DUH.
Secondly, a very big HELL YES.




As re written in Women's Health magazine, July issue.

small town beck

mmmmmm pleasure

RKCNDY

pleasure? pleasure can be so subjective...I get pleasure from eating ice cream, and I get pleasure from going shopping...I could get pleasure out of meeting Eddie Vedder...all totally different pleasures.

I think they should have said 'satisfaction' or 'gratification' if that is truly what they mean.

decides2dream

RKCNDY wrote:

pleasure? pleasure can be so subjective...I get pleasure from eating ice cream, and I get pleasure from going shopping...I could get pleasure out of meeting Eddie Vedder...all totally different pleasures.

I think they should have said 'satisfaction' or 'gratification' if that is truly what they mean.

Pleasure is pleasure...whether from multiple orgasms or chunky monkey.
Not saying they are the same, just that it's all pleasure.
Satisfaction and gratification, I can get from other things outside of sexual encounters as well. It's merely semantics. What I appreciate is the recognition that we women too want and enjoy. Sex for sexs sake, just like men. Finally, some fucking honesty.

small town beck

And pleasure from getting your freak on is the best ... add chocolate and you've got double pleasure.

decides2dream

small town beck wrote:

And pleasure from getting your freak on is the best ... add chocolate and you've got double pleasure.

Don't forget the red wine!
Bliss!

small town beck

decides2dream wrote:

small town beck wrote:

And pleasure from getting your freak on is the best ... add chocolate and you've got double pleasure.

Don't forget the red wine!
Bliss!

josevolution

Not one guy commented on this ok let me be the 1st , Winning :!:

norm

ladies, i'm available for any and all pleasure needs...will bring chocolate & wine

:P



:wave:

paysonites

What's that one saying. One must pleasure one's self before pleasuring others. Just kidding.

small town beck

norm wrote:

ladies, i'm available for any and all pleasure needs...will bring chocolate & wine

:P



:wave:

Look at you willing to step up, Norm.

mca47

I tend to subscribe to the evolutionary biologist's theory on sexual reproduction.
The pleasure aspect (release if you will...) has simply evolved as additional motivation to procreate and thereby allowing your DNA to pass on to the next generation. Remove pleasure, and every lifeform would still reproduce. As humans we have the intellect to understand and grasp this concept, but its interesting to see how simple organisms are "programmed" to reproduce despite the fact that they receive no pleasure in it...and in certain organisms, the simple act of reproduction actually causes death...yet they do it anyways.
The power to pass on your genes to the next generation is the greatest feature...the foundation of evolution.
It also ties in sexual selection as "desire" does not stem from the ability to have pleasure/an orgasm, rather the evolution of our brains to seek and select mates who provide the best opportunity to sucessfully reproduce. There is a reason why men seek certain features, and there are also reasons why women find certain men attractive. The "tall dark and handsome" features that so many women look for really has a much deeper level than what's perceived on the surface. Those features, of health, strength and the ablility to protect ones self, and the offspring are rooted in the behavioral apsects that derive from one's DNA.
There is also the anatomical aspect of it as well. Most women have approximately 20-25 years with the ability to have children. Do the math, that that amounts to 240-300 oportunities (years x montly ovulation) in one's life to actually conceive. Evolution has allowed them to be more selective of mates because they also have far more invested in reproduction then men. Men can produce viable sperm from puberty to their death, and it's impossible to run out. Men have little investment/required resources in reproduction, and despite the millions of sperm per ejaculation, the odds are still against successful insemination. It's in men's best interest to "spread the seed" as much as possible.

So, while the pleasure thing is pretty much awesome ...the overwhelming majority of organisms and species receive no benefit of reproduction (other than passing on their DNA), yet it still occurs.

norm

small town beck wrote:

norm wrote:

ladies, i'm available for any and all pleasure needs...will bring chocolate & wine

:P



:wave:

Look at you willing to step up, Norm.

what can i say? i'm a giver

decides2dream

I tend t agree with science overall as well. However, as far as human sexuality goes, I DO believe we have evolved considerably.....whether it's actually evolution or simply cultural change. Plenty of people choose.....choose.....not to reproduce nowadays....and yet....still fuck copiously, hopefully. . And yes, we women desire that as much as our male counterpoints. Carry on....

mca47 wrote:

I tend to subscribe to the evolutionary biologist's theory on sexual reproduction.
The pleasure aspect (release if you will...) has simply evolved as additional motivation to procreate and thereby allowing your DNA to pass on to the next generation. Remove pleasure, and every lifeform would still reproduce. As humans we have the intellect to understand and grasp this concept, but its interesting to see how simple organisms are "programmed" to reproduce despite the fact that they receive no pleasure in it...and in certain organisms, the simple act of reproduction actually causes death...yet they do it anyways.
The power to pass on your genes to the next generation is the greatest feature...the foundation of evolution.
It also ties in sexual selection as "desire" does not stem from the ability to have pleasure/an orgasm, rather the evolution of our brains to seek and select mates who provide the best opportunity to sucessfully reproduce. There is a reason why men seek certain features, and there are also reasons why women find certain men attractive. The "tall dark and handsome" features that so many women look for really has a much deeper level than what's perceived on the surface. Those features, of health, strength and the ablility to protect ones self, and the offspring are rooted in the behavioral apsects that derive from one's DNA.
There is also the anatomical aspect of it as well. Most women have approximately 20-25 years with the ability to have children. Do the math, that that amounts to 240-300 oportunities (years x montly ovulation) in one's life to actually conceive. Evolution has allowed them to be more selective of mates because they also have far more invested in reproduction then men. Men can produce viable sperm from puberty to their death, and it's impossible to run out. Men have little investment/required resources in reproduction, and despite the millions of sperm per ejaculation, the odds are still against successful insemination. It's in men's best interest to "spread the seed" as much as possible.

So, while the pleasure thing is pretty much awesome ...the overwhelming majority of organisms and species receive no benefit of reproduction (other than passing on their DNA), yet it still occurs.

locked

this thread is useless without video!

81

this thread has Ziggy written all over it. i will sit back, relax and wait for jellybean to spill the beans on her thoughts.

rafie

Someone needs to let my wife read this study.....

Claireack

The 81 wrote:

this thread has Ziggy written all over it. i will sit back, relax and wait for jellybean to spill the beans on her thoughts.

Sssssh .....

Claireack

Ummmmm ....

I think some people have sex to fulfil their emotional needs. Does a woman hit the big 'O' every time? Isn't their pleasure in just giving someone else pleasure.

I think I'll shut up, I don't really know where I'm going.

Dru_Cortez

locked wrote:

this thread is useless without video!

Winner-winner!
Some good ol' fashioned
blue cinema,
consarn it!
Cheers.

RKCNDY

Claireack wrote:

Ummmmm ....

I think some people have sex to fulfil their emotional needs. Does a woman hit the big 'O' every time? Isn't their pleasure in just giving someone else pleasure.

I think I'll shut up, I don't really know where I'm going.

YES claire! that was what I was trying to get at!...usually the 'pleasure session' ends up with the man being pleasured and he is all , but the woman is like.... :? :x

how would you guys like it if a woman is.....ummmm...we need Ziggy...

Claireack

I don't know if it's conditioning, but I feel odd if I 'you know' and he doesn't. Happened recently and I felt really guilty (I will say it was voluntarily on his part). Didn't feel right at all. However, that doesn't seem to be the case other way round. To be honest, I don't mind if he does and I don't. Just as long as it isn't all of the time.

I do wish there was a nudge, nudge, wink, wink smilie.

of.the.girl

Claireack wrote:

I don't know if it's conditioning, but I feel odd if I 'you know' and he doesn't. Happened recently and I felt really guilty (I will say it was voluntarily on his part). Didn't feel right at all. However, that doesn't seem to be the case other way round. To be honest, I don't mind if he does and I don't. Just as long as it isn't all of the time.

I do wish there was a nudge, nudge, wink, wink smilie.

my other half pulls that "conditioning" shit out all the time....I say bullshit. Plus, do you think a guy feels guilty when he's and we get the :( :? i doubt it...but then again I can be wrong. There might be that one or select few men.

RKCNDY

sometimes I'd rather...'you know' he's almost ...and I just say 'oh! I'm done! nighty night!' roll over and go to sleep....leave him feeling... :evil:

of.the.girl

RKCNDY wrote:

sometimes I'd rather...'you know' he's almost ...and I just say 'oh! I'm done! nighty night!' roll over and go to sleep....leave him feeling... :evil:

I've done that...and let me tell you...They think twice when they do it to us. at least sometimes in my case.

of.the.girl

here's a question....are there men out there that can "keep it going" and hold off on their until the other party has their and then have their own
just curious.

of.the.girl

I should clarify that the is their "O" face.

decides2dream

Claireack wrote:

Ummmmm ....

I think some people have sex to fulfil their emotional needs. Does a woman hit the big 'O' every time? Isn't their pleasure in just giving someone else pleasure.

I think I'll shut up, I don't really know where I'm going.

sure.
isn't that, for some anyway, a part of pleasure?
i think the whole point is simply pointing out, men, women, we go for it for pleasure....not the old attitude. or at least, that is the theory brought up, and i personally agree to it....b/c yes, it is exactly how i am. haha.

and errr, well.......yes. every time. otherwise, what's the point? hahahahahaha. (eh, in a lifetime of it, sure, not. every. single. time.....but......damn near close to it. think too that shows we all have different things/ideas of what constitutes 'pleasure'....thing is tho, we're still persuing pleasure when going for sex. and sure, making someone else happy is a pleasure....but giving and getting is even better.

mca47

sheila0225 wrote:

here's a question....are there men out there that can "keep it going" and hold off on their until the other party has their and then have their own
just curious.

Indeed.
I've got pretty good control over most of the time...well, some of the time.
After a couple of drinks, the can be delayed for a good amount of time.

small town beck

mca47 wrote:

sheila0225 wrote:

here's a question....are there men out there that can "keep it going" and hold off on their until the other party has their and then have their own
just curious.

Indeed.
I've got pretty good control over most of the time...well, some of the time.
After a couple of drinks, the can be delayed for a good amount of time.

How you doin'?

RKCNDY

small town beck wrote:

mca47 wrote:

sheila0225 wrote:

here's a question....are there men out there that can "keep it going" and hold off on their until the other party has their and then have their own
just curious.

Indeed.
I've got pretty good control over most of the time...well, some of the time.
After a couple of drinks, the can be delayed for a good amount of time.

How you doin'?

nice to know some guys actually do 'care' about their partner!