Yeah so all the rich f*cks who can afford to pay 1500/ticket on stubhub get to be up front. Or the people with some computer hacking skills that buy 20 tickets and sell 19 of them.
thanks to joining the fan club back in 94ish and some luck I have been in the first few rows many times...no computer hacking necessary. and I have NEVER paid over face value for a ticket, I abhor scalpers AND the people who buy tickets from them.
It's just a matter of security controlling the crowds. It hasn't been a problem elsewhere. That was an isolated event and I'm sure there were factors other than the show just being "general admission" that led to it.
if you think it is JUST a matter of security, you have never been in that position. There were times I feared for my life, most notably Randall's Island and Buffalo '96
Sure, having a few GA shows per tour is nice, and gives fans who wouldn't otherwise have it a chance in the front...but a full GA tour mean that the ONLY way to be up front means sleeping out the night before and standing all day long only to fight for your spot allllll night. As a short girl, anything but the very front in GA is pointless, im staring at someones shoulders and i am fighting against men who think they can push me out of the way all night.
I'm not a yuppie, I just like to be able to enjoy the show instead of fight all night.
I guess I view seated floor seats the trademark of older not in there prime bands like The Stones, Who, Police etc.
I still think PJ can reach a younger fan base that like the energy of GA shows. I do see everyone's point about having your own personal space that you can count on if you get a beer or take a piss.
I always viewed it as RNR and you should take care of that stuff before the headliner comes on. Once PJ comes on I don't move for 3 hours because I don't want to miss a moment.
why would they want to reach that fan base? if i want to see meatheads at a show I'd buy a ticket to see Nickelback....
Nobody sits...chairs are simply device to define your space.
GA sucks for sooo many reasons with no benefits.
Exactly! I like my personal space and seats define that space. I hate GA. I spend the entire night trying not to get knocked over by the assholes behind me who are pushing up against me all night trying to get a "better" spot.
No time to be void or save up on life. You got to spend it all.
Nobody sits...chairs are simply device to define your space.
GA sucks for sooo many reasons with no benefits.
Age has nothing to do with it...has to do with wanting to be in a civilized space...and as many humans aren't civilized....
Sir, I like the way you think.
Let's face it, the majority of PJ fans/10c members are 30-somethings now. I was in high school when Ten came out as were, I'm guessing, A LOT of 10c members.
We are an educated, young, but still aging fan base that loves the band but wants a few finer comforts in life that being in your 30's affords us.
I've been in mosh pits when I was in college and it was fun and living in the moment. I don't want that at 32. I want to jump up and down and sing along and have a drink and enjoy the vibe. Not come out with a black eye (which I did at aforementioned mosh pit -- but at 19, who cares).
The single reason why General Admission doesn't work...
People are assholes.
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Like the comment about the selfish being on the rail. SELFISH? They got to the venue hours before it opened... sat on the sidewalk... some even spent the night on the sidewalk... got to the railing and stayed there... all fucking night... no hanging out in the lobby... looking over the merch table... having a beer... skipping out on the opening band... holding in their piss. and they are being selfish to the punk that took his sweet time getting to the venue and hanging out in the lobby during the opening act.
General admission does NOT grant you rights or permission to come in late and bully your way to the front by shoving the little girls out of your way. If you want the front... then invest the time and effort in getting it.
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And as for the seated gigs. I think they are GREAT. I don't have to deal with assholes who think they deserve my seat more than I do because they are self-proclaimed 'Bigger Fans' than me.
and if I find myself in the front row... I'm seriously thinking about sitting in my seat just to piss off you assholes who think you can dictate to me how I'm supposed to act.
Let the kids rock? If it'll make them quit their whinning and crying about they entitlements... then, I'm all for it.
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I'm a tall guy so having a seat in front and back of me makes it hard to rock out. Anytime I try to jump up and down I end up banging my knee or something else. Since we all stand anyways why do we need a seat. If you have to go take a piss thats your fault. I would never leave a PJ performance.
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I'd rather be tall and bang my knees on the seats than short and be staring at someone's back all night cause I am being pressed against them by the 10,000 people behind me.
and it' not about having to take a piss even, its about wanting to focus on the show instead of focusing on not being trampled.
And before you think that I just don't have the "guts" for GA...I have punched, bit and kicked to keep my spot in the front from men who think they can push a girl out of the way.
Wow....i'm sorry, but i see alot of old lazy people who's lost all sense of rock n' roll in this thread.
I slept outside on the street in San Fran in 06 for all 3 nights *waves to all the other crazy people* in order to get my place on the rail...but I prefer a seated tour....really think I'm lazy?
sorry for the multiple posts but I'm taking this personally.
yes i LOVE GA shows, they can be exhillarating, give me a couple per tour where I can get my ya-yas out...for the rest, give me a place to stand that is mine, my little 2ft x 2ft space to claim, thanks. I can still rock out from there.
I slept outside on the street in San Fran in 06 for all 3 nights *waves to all the other crazy people* in order to get my place on the rail...but I prefer a seated tour....really think I'm lazy?
sorry for the multiple posts but I'm taking this personally.
yes i LOVE GA shows, they can be exhillarating, give me a couple per tour where I can get my ya-yas out...for the rest, give me a place to stand that is mine, my little 2ft x 2ft space to claim, thanks. I can still rock out from there.
There are buttloads of space on GA floors. Butt loads. I mean come on, people trying to compare the experience to seated resevred floors are intellectually dishonest. Imagine, sneaking over to the Mike side to hear him whale, then checking out Stone for a few songs all at your own leisure. It is like having a remote control, while seated floors is like being stuck on the same station. Good show still, but GA is total freedom.
if you think it is JUST a matter of security, you have never been in that position. There were times I feared for my life, most notably Randall's Island '96
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by far an away the most ferocious pit I have ever been in
There are buttloads of space on GA floors. Butt loads. I mean come on, people trying to compare the experience to seated resevred floors are intellectually dishonest. Imagine, sneaking over to the Mike side to hear him whale, then checking out Stone for a few songs all at your own leisure. It is like having a remote control, while seated floors is like being stuck on the same station. Good show still, but GA is total freedom.
butt loads of space....lol..anyone? anyone have "butt loads" of space around them at a GA PJ show? lol..oh that made me laugh..
and how exactly do you "sneak over to the Mike side" without pushing other people out of the way exactly?
is the GA experience the same at the seated one? no, I never said so. Being in the GA crowd, I have acknowledged can be more exhilarating. If you could exclude every asshole that tries to push his way to the front in order to "sneak over to Mike side" yeah they'd be great. Obviously, people like you think its ok to push people out of the way to see Stone "at your own leisure"...at "your leisure" is my "getting pissed off at being pushed out of the way".
Also the seats help prevent crowd surfers from getting going. Nothing is worse then somebody landing on top of you during a concert without any warning. At least with seats you can watch the concert without having to watch out for the same guy trying to crowd surf for the 20th time.
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There are buttloads of space on GA floors. Butt loads. I mean come on, people trying to compare the experience to seated resevred floors are intellectually dishonest. Imagine, sneaking over to the Mike side to hear him whale, then checking out Stone for a few songs all at your own leisure. It is like having a remote control, while seated floors is like being stuck on the same station. Good show still, but GA is total freedom.
what planet is this on?
I'm not talking club shows, but big arena or outdoor shows with GA? You get forced into some little spot just by the will of the crowd where your head will remain pinned in some guy's armpit for the rest of the night. You can't move, and you can't see anything. I don't what you're saying about checking out mike then checking out stone...when I saw PJ GA I could barely tell if PJ was on stage. Not only was it literally like I had a blindfold on, I could barely HEAR anything down there.
Wow....i'm sorry, but i see alot of old lazy people who's lost all sense of rock n' roll in this thread. Soon you'll want intermission to go take a piss and buy a hot dog too. May this attitude never make it's way overseas to europe. I have no idea how to behave this summer when im going to MSG2...WTF am i going to do if they play, i dont know, lets say Lukin. Sit on my ass?? Cant do it. Its all about respecting your fellow fan, looking out for eachother and not waving your elbows all around.
Ill be honest though, never seen a rock concert sitting down, cause it doesnt happen in europe. GA is the only way to watch a rock concert. But im not worse than ill admit if it was good after this summer, but i doubt it.
The security reasons for not having GA don't hold, you just need to have different sections and not put in to many people in each one...just as they have in roskilde and other big arena shows that ive been to.
For me, PJ is not about sitting on my ass...
dude, no one is sitting on their asses...if you've never been to an assigned seating show, you have no idea what you are talking about. the chair just marks the spot- do you HONESTLY think people actually sit in them for the whole show? there's just as much rocking out as at GA, you just get to rock out in the same spot.
There are buttloads of space on GA floors. Butt loads.
You should tell that to the girl that I had to catch from falling and help to carry her off of the floor at the Vic last August... people pushing, packed in like sardines, heat... she completely passed out. And I was on the left side of the stage (Mike side) where it was more "open".
The only "buttloads" of space on a GA floor is back behind the soundboard.
dude, no one is sitting on their asses...if you've never been to an assigned seating show, you have no idea what you are talking about. the chair just marks the spot- do you HONESTLY think people actually sit in them for the whole show? there's just as much rocking out as at GA, you just get to rock out in the same spot.
Maybe he goes to shows in China... I saw a Wham! video once when I was a kid and it was filmed in China and they just sat in their seats and clapped and smiled. Very polite.
You should tell that to the girl that I had to catch from falling and help to carry her off of the floor at the Vic last August... people pushing, packed in like sardines, heat... she completely passed out. And I was on the left side of the stage (Mike side) where it was more "open".
yeah that's the kinda thing I thought was cool in high school, but when I really think about it, only for bands I didn't really care about. even back then, if I went through the trouble/expense of a pj show, and since I really want to actually enjoy the music, I wasn't even down with it then.
oh i forgot to mention me and my friends slammed a crowd surfer on his head at randalls island ,,we couldnt take it anymore
in the rain boom on his head
had to get taken out in a stretcher,,,we felt bad but he wouldnt stop ,,
so he wanted to surf and mosh...he got it
I can't believe crowd surfing and moshing still happens...I haven't seen it since 1994 except for 2 instances 1) those circle things at a bad religion show and 2) about 3 people tried to surf at foo fighters, which was GA on the floor, but nobody held them up and they were promptly removed by venue security after they fell on their heads.
Did he seriously think that? Is he picturing us sitting in our chairs with our legs crossed sipping brandy while talking about the state of the economy in between songs?
Jesus.
I think the only time I have ever sat in my chair during a PJ show is to rest my back a little during an encore. And even then, it is usually just the first minute or so after they leave the stage and then I am back on my feet screaming for them to return.
I think a lot of this thread has turned in to Europeans not really understanding what is going on at these shows and shoving an elitist attitude down our throats.
In 2006, yes at an assigned seating show, I almost passed out, literally. I was soooo dehydrated, but I just kept rocking out. probably not a good idea, but I would have rathered pass out than sit down .
You should tell that to the girl that I had to catch from falling and help to carry her off of the floor at the Vic last August... people pushing, packed in like sardines, heat... she completely passed out. And I was on the left side of the stage (Mike side) where it was more "open".
The only "buttloads" of space on a GA floor is back behind the soundboard.
I agree let's get rid of club shows why we are it, too dangerous. If "that girl was falling" my guess she was pushing her way round as well. Tell her move 5 feet in either direction she will be fine. No more absurd fear mongering.
I think the only time I have ever sat in my chair during a PJ show is to rest my back a little during an encore. And even then, it is usually just the first minute or so after they leave the stage and then I am back on my feet screaming for them to return.
what?!?!?! you sit for a whole minute!!!! how dare you! you fat, lazy, Starbucks latte drinking yuppy!!!!!
why would they want to reach that fan base? if i want to see meatheads at a show I'd buy a ticket to see Nickelback....
Not all young people are meatheads. Cmon now don't you remember when you were 20 and had a ton of energy?
It didn't mean that you liked Nickleback or the equivalent of the time.
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I'm not talking club shows, but big arena or outdoor shows with GA? You get forced into some little spot just by the will of the crowd where your head will remain pinned in some guy's armpit for the rest of the night. You can't move, and you can't see anything. I don't what you're saying about checking out mike then checking out stone...when I saw PJ GA I could barely tell if PJ was on stage. Not only was it literally like I had a blindfold on, I could barely HEAR anything down there.
Ha! Total insanity I love it. Couldn't even hear the show during a GA show, or even see the band on stage. I get it.
Not all young people are meatheads. Cmon now don't you remember when you were 20 and had a ton of energy?
It didn't mean that you liked Nickleback or the equivalent of the time.
I realize this, I was just making the point that I'm not sure the band is still interested in bringing in a young, rowdy crowd to the shows these days...
Ha! Total insanity I love it. Couldn't even hear the show during a GA show, or even see the band on stage. I get it.
get what?
are you like 6'4" or something? when you are 5'3" you are literally pressed up against taller people. you're like in a whole with your face smushed into the guy infront of you's back. the sound gets all messed up down there. seriously I had no idea what song they were playing half the time.
Also PJ could divide up the GA space so that there is room for everyone. Similar to what U2 do on there tours. People who want there precious seat can request side stage seats. Everyone wins.
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All bands similar in age and aggression to PJ with similar fan bases. What makes PJ so different that we have to have Reserved seats on the floor?
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I agree let's get rid of club shows why we are it, too dangerous. If "that girl was falling" my guess she was pushing her way round as well. Tell her move 5 feet in either direction she will be fine. No more absurd fear mongering.
She was in front of me the whole night. Didn't push her way in at all. Problem was, everyone else was so hell-bent on getting up close that there wasn't 5 feet to move. I thought they oversold the Vic, but maybe those last 2 tickets were for me and my friend, so take that for what it's worth.
I'm not saying get rid of club shows... I'm not fear mongering... just bringing up the other side of the argument. I don't boycott GA shows (going to see the Drive-By Truckers next month at a small club around here) and I think they have their moments, but GA at a large venue these days is something I'd rather not have to fuck with, and *personally*, I'm glad PJ avoids it whenever possible.
There are buttloads of space on GA floors. Butt loads. I mean come on, people trying to compare the experience to seated resevred floors are intellectually dishonest. Imagine, sneaking over to the Mike side to hear him whale, then checking out Stone for a few songs all at your own leisure. It is like having a remote control, while seated floors is like being stuck on the same station. Good show still, but GA is total freedom.
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This statement tells me one of 2 things...
Either:
1. You have NEVER been to a General Admisiion show... OR
2. The only General Admission Show you have been to was a Kevin Federline concert.
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On planet Earth... if you get the rail at a General Admission show... and you leave it to get a beer or take a leak... you forfeit your spot. I have NEVER been able to roam to any spot on the floor at a G.A. show... but, then again... i never been to a Kevin Federline show.
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There are buttloads of space on GA floors. Butt loads. I mean come on, people trying to compare the experience to seated resevred floors are intellectually dishonest. Imagine, sneaking over to the Mike side to hear him whale, then checking out Stone for a few songs all at your own leisure. It is like having a remote control, while seated floors is like being stuck on the same station. Good show still, but GA is total freedom.
...
This statement tells me one of 2 things...
Either:
1. You have NEVER been to a General Admisiion show... OR
2. The only General Admission Show you have been to was a Kevin Federline concert.
...
On planet Earth... if you get the rail at a General Admission show... and you leave it to get a beer or take a leak... you forfeit your spot. I have NEVER been able to roam to any spot on the floor at a G.A. show... but, then again... I never been to a Kevin Federline show.
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thanks to joining the fan club back in 94ish and some luck I have been in the first few rows many times...no computer hacking necessary. and I have NEVER paid over face value for a ticket, I abhor scalpers AND the people who buy tickets from them.
if you think it is JUST a matter of security, you have never been in that position. There were times I feared for my life, most notably Randall's Island and Buffalo '96
Sure, having a few GA shows per tour is nice, and gives fans who wouldn't otherwise have it a chance in the front...but a full GA tour mean that the ONLY way to be up front means sleeping out the night before and standing all day long only to fight for your spot allllll night. As a short girl, anything but the very front in GA is pointless, im staring at someones shoulders and i am fighting against men who think they can push me out of the way all night.
I'm not a yuppie, I just like to be able to enjoy the show instead of fight all night.
why would they want to reach that fan base? if i want to see meatheads at a show I'd buy a ticket to see Nickelback....
Sir, I like the way you think.
Let's face it, the majority of PJ fans/10c members are 30-somethings now. I was in high school when Ten came out as were, I'm guessing, A LOT of 10c members.
We are an educated, young, but still aging fan base that loves the band but wants a few finer comforts in life that being in your 30's affords us.
I've been in mosh pits when I was in college and it was fun and living in the moment. I don't want that at 32. I want to jump up and down and sing along and have a drink and enjoy the vibe. Not come out with a black eye (which I did at aforementioned mosh pit -- but at 19, who cares).
Be nice people.
People are assholes.
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Like the comment about the selfish being on the rail. SELFISH? They got to the venue hours before it opened... sat on the sidewalk... some even spent the night on the sidewalk... got to the railing and stayed there... all fucking night... no hanging out in the lobby... looking over the merch table... having a beer... skipping out on the opening band... holding in their piss. and they are being selfish to the punk that took his sweet time getting to the venue and hanging out in the lobby during the opening act.
General admission does NOT grant you rights or permission to come in late and bully your way to the front by shoving the little girls out of your way. If you want the front... then invest the time and effort in getting it.
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And as for the seated gigs. I think they are GREAT. I don't have to deal with assholes who think they deserve my seat more than I do because they are self-proclaimed 'Bigger Fans' than me.
and if I find myself in the front row... I'm seriously thinking about sitting in my seat just to piss off you assholes who think you can dictate to me how I'm supposed to act.
Let the kids rock? If it'll make them quit their whinning and crying about they entitlements... then, I'm all for it.
Hail, Hail!!!
I slept outside on the street in San Fran in 06 for all 3 nights *waves to all the other crazy people* in order to get my place on the rail...but I prefer a seated tour....really think I'm lazy?
sorry for the multiple posts but I'm taking this personally.
yes i LOVE GA shows, they can be exhillarating, give me a couple per tour where I can get my ya-yas out...for the rest, give me a place to stand that is mine, my little 2ft x 2ft space to claim, thanks. I can still rock out from there.
There are buttloads of space on GA floors. Butt loads. I mean come on, people trying to compare the experience to seated resevred floors are intellectually dishonest. Imagine, sneaking over to the Mike side to hear him whale, then checking out Stone for a few songs all at your own leisure. It is like having a remote control, while seated floors is like being stuck on the same station. Good show still, but GA is total freedom.
by far an away the most ferocious pit I have ever been in
94 lolla (beasties, pumpkins) second place
butt loads of space....lol..anyone? anyone have "butt loads" of space around them at a GA PJ show? lol..oh that made me laugh..
and how exactly do you "sneak over to the Mike side" without pushing other people out of the way exactly?
is the GA experience the same at the seated one? no, I never said so. Being in the GA crowd, I have acknowledged can be more exhilarating. If you could exclude every asshole that tries to push his way to the front in order to "sneak over to Mike side" yeah they'd be great. Obviously, people like you think its ok to push people out of the way to see Stone "at your own leisure"...at "your leisure" is my "getting pissed off at being pushed out of the way".
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what planet is this on?
I'm not talking club shows, but big arena or outdoor shows with GA? You get forced into some little spot just by the will of the crowd where your head will remain pinned in some guy's armpit for the rest of the night. You can't move, and you can't see anything. I don't what you're saying about checking out mike then checking out stone...when I saw PJ GA I could barely tell if PJ was on stage. Not only was it literally like I had a blindfold on, I could barely HEAR anything down there.
dude, no one is sitting on their asses...if you've never been to an assigned seating show, you have no idea what you are talking about. the chair just marks the spot- do you HONESTLY think people actually sit in them for the whole show? there's just as much rocking out as at GA, you just get to rock out in the same spot.
You should tell that to the girl that I had to catch from falling and help to carry her off of the floor at the Vic last August... people pushing, packed in like sardines, heat... she completely passed out. And I was on the left side of the stage (Mike side) where it was more "open".
The only "buttloads" of space on a GA floor is back behind the soundboard.
in the rain boom on his head
had to get taken out in a stretcher,,,we felt bad but he wouldnt stop ,,
so he wanted to surf and mosh...he got it
Maybe he goes to shows in China... I saw a Wham! video once when I was a kid and it was filmed in China and they just sat in their seats and clapped and smiled. Very polite.
yeah that's the kinda thing I thought was cool in high school, but when I really think about it, only for bands I didn't really care about. even back then, if I went through the trouble/expense of a pj show, and since I really want to actually enjoy the music, I wasn't even down with it then.
I can't believe crowd surfing and moshing still happens...I haven't seen it since 1994 except for 2 instances 1) those circle things at a bad religion show and 2) about 3 people tried to surf at foo fighters, which was GA on the floor, but nobody held them up and they were promptly removed by venue security after they fell on their heads.
In 2006, yes at an assigned seating show, I almost passed out, literally. I was soooo dehydrated, but I just kept rocking out. probably not a good idea, but I would have rathered pass out than sit down
I agree let's get rid of club shows why we are it, too dangerous. If "that girl was falling" my guess she was pushing her way round as well. Tell her move 5 feet in either direction she will be fine. No more absurd fear mongering.
what?!?!?! you sit for a whole minute!!!! how dare you! you fat, lazy, Starbucks latte drinking yuppy!!!!!
Not all young people are meatheads. Cmon now don't you remember when you were 20 and had a ton of energy?
It didn't mean that you liked Nickleback or the equivalent of the time.
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Ha! Total insanity I love it. Couldn't even hear the show during a GA show, or even see the band on stage. I get it.
I realize this, I was just making the point that I'm not sure the band is still interested in bringing in a young, rowdy crowd to the shows these days...
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get what?
are you like 6'4" or something? when you are 5'3" you are literally pressed up against taller people. you're like in a whole with your face smushed into the guy infront of you's back. the sound gets all messed up down there. seriously I had no idea what song they were playing half the time.
Foo Fighters-GA
U2-GA
Queens of the Stoneage-GA
Smashing Pumpkins-GA
Rage-GA
All bands similar in age and aggression to PJ with similar fan bases. What makes PJ so different that we have to have Reserved seats on the floor?
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10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
She was in front of me the whole night. Didn't push her way in at all. Problem was, everyone else was so hell-bent on getting up close that there wasn't 5 feet to move. I thought they oversold the Vic, but maybe those last 2 tickets were for me and my friend, so take that for what it's worth.
I'm not saying get rid of club shows... I'm not fear mongering... just bringing up the other side of the argument. I don't boycott GA shows (going to see the Drive-By Truckers next month at a small club around here) and I think they have their moments, but GA at a large venue these days is something I'd rather not have to fuck with, and *personally*, I'm glad PJ avoids it whenever possible.
This statement tells me one of 2 things...
Either:
1. You have NEVER been to a General Admisiion show... OR
2. The only General Admission Show you have been to was a Kevin Federline concert.
...
On planet Earth... if you get the rail at a General Admission show... and you leave it to get a beer or take a leak... you forfeit your spot. I have NEVER been able to roam to any spot on the floor at a G.A. show... but, then again... i never been to a Kevin Federline show.
Hail, Hail!!!
This statement tells me one of 2 things...
Either:
1. You have NEVER been to a General Admisiion show... OR
2. The only General Admission Show you have been to was a Kevin Federline concert.
...
On planet Earth... if you get the rail at a General Admission show... and you leave it to get a beer or take a leak... you forfeit your spot. I have NEVER been able to roam to any spot on the floor at a G.A. show... but, then again... I never been to a Kevin Federline show.
Hail, Hail!!!