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doc2rockdoc2rock Posts: 6
edited April 2008 in The Porch
I posted this in another thread but no one seems to be answering it soooo

I want to get VA beach tickets this week. It is an outdoor venue, yet there is supposedly reserved seating with lawn tix behind it.

I saw them in Albany at the Pepsi Arena a couple years ago and I couldn't believe how we had to stand in place at our seats on the FLOOR.
Whyyyyyyyy are they doing this now when other bands are still allowing general admission? If it is because of rowdiness and safety, why aren't bands like Nine Inch Nails doing it too? NIN at VA beach about 2 years ago was standing general admission with an option for cheaper lawn tickets behind the amphitheatre.

Why are the kids not free to rock out!? I'm not trying to see an opera or symphony....I'm trying to see PEARL JAM.
Thanks for any info/insight.
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    some of us are getting to old to be throwing elbows all night at drunk fuckers who try and push on in


    im there to enjoy not beef with the frat girls

    plus if i need to piss,i know my beautiful seat will be waiting
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    Roskilde incident.... NIN and most other bands have never had 9 people die at their shows...

    It also gives seniority in the club a bit more meaning.
  • mjbmjb Posts: 1,315
    the band simply changed their views on GA on the floor after the Rokslide...seem to be a little more open to the idea of a GA floor - someone can confirm but I believe there were a few shows in 06' and all the festivals.
  • GratefulJamGratefulJam Posts: 1,803
    "plus if i need to piss,i know my beautiful seat will be waiting"
    "thru extensive negotiations we managed to get the curfew moved back..... we still don't have any time to fu&k around...."

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  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    mjb wrote:
    the band simply changed their views on GA on the floor after the Rokslide...seem to be a little more open to the idea of a GA floor - someone can confirm but I believe there were a few shows in 06' and all the festivals.

    yeah... they were...

    I think it's good, I dunno if I'd wanna be on the floor if it were GA, I feel I can enjoy myself more staying in 1 spot and not bouncing all over the place...

    Irving plaza was the only GA PJ show I've been to and it wasn't that bad as far as crowd.
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    I personally like seats. Sure, in GA you can get your ass all the way to the front without having to buy front row seats. But, with seats, you get your own personal space to rock out in, which I personally think is really nice.
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  • GratefulJamGratefulJam Posts: 1,803
    When stone told them to cool it or as ED chimed in

    "you do not want us to play a bunch of slow songs.. this is a sad song but not a slow song its called ....SAD
    "thru extensive negotiations we managed to get the curfew moved back..... we still don't have any time to fu&k around...."

    LA II 06, SB 06, SF III 06, Kokua 07 Ed and Jack, Grant Park 07, EV Berk1 & LA 1 (nice job 10c), 08 DC, MSG1 &2, VH1 rocks, EV Bos II, EV NYC I & II, Milwaukee, EV Maui, EV Hono I & II, Chicago 09 I & II, LA 09 I & II & IV, SD 09 (my girlfriend hit the lottery, best concert of my life 10C rocks)KC 2010, STL 2010, Hartford. Boston, and MSG I & II "who goes around skinning cats anyway", PJ 20 2011 , Portland, Spokane, Seattle LA 2013, Home Shows + Missoula (fatal 👌)
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,168
    I hate GA shows and with very very few exceptions, wont go to them

    unfortunately, too many rude people ruin the experience everytime
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    I saw Primus in NYC last time they were around...

    Worst GA experience of my life... then again Primus has some pretty crazy/terrible/big/trucker fans... and I literally thought I was gonna get crushed to death the moment they came out... my shirt was ripped my hat was gone... and I was bruised up pretty good... great show but a pain in the ass to just try and enjoy it.

    Me and my buddy after the show agreed that we're thankful not having to deal w/ that shit when seeing PJ.
  • Moonlight ChefMoonlight Chef Posts: 24
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    some of us are getting to old to be throwing elbows all night at drunk fuckers who try and push on in


    im there to enjoy not beef with the frat girls

    plus if i need to piss,i know my beautiful seat will be waiting


    Amen sir.
    Laura Michelé Stevens
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    some of us are getting to old to be throwing elbows all night at drunk fuckers who try and push on in


    im there to enjoy not beef with the frat girls

    plus if i need to piss,i know my beautiful seat will be waiting

    That about sums it up...
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  • kurtdiedforyoursinskurtdiedforyoursins Posts: 149
    chromiam wrote:
    That about sums it up...

    yes. and, as someone who was on the floor for one of their last domestic GA shows (Vegas, Yield Tour), it is definitely the right call.
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  • doc2rockdoc2rock Posts: 6
    Yeah so all the rich f*cks who can afford to pay 1500/ticket on stubhub get to be up front. Or the people with some computer hacking skills that buy 20 tickets and sell 19 of them.

    I was in the front of the 2nd section in albany and I could barely see anything and couldn't distinguish half the notes slurring out of the speakers from that far back. And those were "mid-grade" seats. Such a diminished concert experience.

    I understand that 9 people died but the point is, NIN is waaaay rowdier... I was at a primus show too and that was fine. It's just a matter of security controlling the crowds. It hasn't been a problem elsewhere. That was an isolated event and I'm sure there were factors other than the show just being "general admission" that led to it.

    Since when did pearl jam fans turn into a bunch of yuppies?
    You may get old but that doesn't mean you should lose your soul.

    Sorry if you spilled your starbucks low-fat mocha latte venti in the pit or you can't chance ruining your favorite prada sling-backs.
    LET THE KIDS ROCK.
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    rockadoc wrote:
    Yeah so all the rich f*cks who can afford to pay 1500/ticket on stubhub get to be up front. Or the people with some computer hacking skills that buy 20 tickets and sell 19 of them.

    I was in the front of the 2nd section in albany and I could barely see anything and couldn't distinguish half the notes slurring out of the speakers from that far back. And those were "mid-grade" seats. Such a diminished concert experience.

    I understand that 9 people died but the point is, NIN is waaaay rowdier... I was at a primus show too and that was fine. It's just a matter of security controlling the crowds. It hasn't been a problem elsewhere. That was an isolated event and I'm sure there were factors other than the show just being "general admission" that led to it.

    Since when did pearl jam fans turn into a bunch of yuppies?
    You may get old but that doesn't mean you should lose your soul.

    Sorry if you spilled your starbucks low-fat mocha latte venti in the pit or you can't chance ruining your favorite prada sling-backs.
    LET THE KIDS ROCK.


    ummmmmmmmmm k

    we rock out fine every show
  • Stephen FlowStephen Flow Posts: 3,327
    rockadoc wrote:
    Yeah so all the rich f*cks who can afford to pay 1500/ticket on stubhub get to be up front. Or the people with some computer hacking skills that buy 20 tickets and sell 19 of them.

    I was in the front of the 2nd section in albany and I could barely see anything and couldn't distinguish half the notes slurring out of the speakers from that far back. And those were "mid-grade" seats. Such a diminished concert experience.

    I understand that 9 people died but the point is, NIN is waaaay rowdier... I was at a primus show too and that was fine. It's just a matter of security controlling the crowds. It hasn't been a problem elsewhere. That was an isolated event and I'm sure there were factors other than the show just being "general admission" that led to it.

    Since when did pearl jam fans turn into a bunch of yuppies?
    You may get old but that doesn't mean you should lose your soul.

    Sorry if you spilled your starbucks low-fat mocha latte venti in the pit or you can't chance ruining your favorite prada sling-backs.
    LET THE KIDS ROCK.

    I deem this post ignorant.
  • cat72cat72 Oxford, MA Posts: 2,993
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    ummmmmmmmmm k

    we rock out fine every show

    and those in the front have NOT paid a ton of money to be there. Same price as everyone else.
  • merlin2600merlin2600 Posts: 63
    rockadoc wrote:
    Yeah so all the rich f*cks who can afford to pay 1500/ticket on stubhub get to be up front. Or the people with some computer hacking skills that buy 20 tickets and sell 19 of them.

    I was in the front of the 2nd section in albany and I could barely see anything and couldn't distinguish half the notes slurring out of the speakers from that far back. And those were "mid-grade" seats. Such a diminished concert experience.

    I understand that 9 people died but the point is, NIN is waaaay rowdier... I was at a primus show too and that was fine. It's just a matter of security controlling the crowds. It hasn't been a problem elsewhere. That was an isolated event and I'm sure there were factors other than the show just being "general admission" that led to it.

    Since when did pearl jam fans turn into a bunch of yuppies?
    You may get old but that doesn't mean you should lose your soul.

    Sorry if you spilled your starbucks low-fat mocha latte venti in the pit or you can't chance ruining your favorite prada sling-backs.
    LET THE KIDS ROCK.


    Message board tip #1:

    Don't let your 4th post be one that knocks almost everyone else in the thread.

    Message board tip #2:

    Saying "LET THE KIDS ROCK" in all caps at the end of your post does not make you cool or add clout to your argument

    Call me an old-timer or whatever you want at the whopping old age of 24, but I'm with most other people on this one: I paid good money to see a show, and I don't need some a$$hole shoving me all over the place to get in front of me or feel up the girl a few feet away or whatever. Give me a seat to sit in and a spot where I can stand relatively un-bothered, thank you very much.
  • jammergirljammergirl Posts: 599
    i was at the GA show in san fran. got shut out of the presale, yet still managed to get up front! that part was cool, and i would say about 99% of the crowd was totally cool and looked out for each other. its that 1% of douchebaggery that can totally ruin a good GA show. luckily for the most part it was all right, definitely a night to remember.
  • Moonlight ChefMoonlight Chef Posts: 24
    BeerBaron wrote:
    Personally, I prefer seats. Sure, it is partially because I have a decent 10C number so my seats will never be terrible. But it is also because I want my space to enjoy the show without having to literally fight just to not get pushed over (which was the case at London 07) and because I want my poster to be safe :)

    Crowds make me nuts (I <3 xanax), but I love the vibe at PJ concerts, granted I've been to only 2 shows. I look forward to the energy of the crowd - not getting knocked into. Just stand up and sing a long and get a contact high. Be nice.
    Laura Michelé Stevens
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    cat72 wrote:
    and those in the front have NOT paid a ton of money to be there. Same price as everyone else.


    totally but i cant help that i joined the 10c in 94 and other's did it last year

    senority is the way it is ,, when seating is involved

    i pay the same price as someone 100 rows back
  • merlin2600merlin2600 Posts: 63
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    totally but i cant help that i joined the 10c in 94 and other's did it last year

    senority is the way it is ,, when seating is involved

    i pay the same price as someone 100 rows back

    Most venues only have a few pricing levels anyway for concerts these days. I doubt it would be that different without 10C, considering that all the seats are pretty good. And as far as you joining in '94 and others not, I've got no gripes with the seniority system, but I think the fact that some of us were pretty young in '94 (I was 10) makes for a decent argument for the random seating deal.
  • camaroscamaros Posts: 1,003
    Some People Want To Sit
    i like sound...
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    merlin2600 wrote:
    Most venues only have a few pricing levels anyway for concerts these days. I doubt it would be that different without 10C, considering that all the seats are pretty good. And as far as you joining in '94 and others not, I've got no gripes with the seniority system, but I think the fact that some of us were pretty young in '94 (I was 10) makes for a decent argument for the random seating deal.

    understood that people werent old enough to join the 10c in the early days
    but again me personally ..i cant do anything about that

    the 10c decides senority is the way to go

    at least some people have the chance to be close this mini-tour with the random rows thing

    the fact is this good senority people want to keep it the same
    the others vice versa

    luckily 10c agrees lol
  • PahkTheCahPahkTheCah Posts: 193
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    some of us are getting to old to be throwing elbows all night at drunk fuckers who try and push on in


    im there to enjoy not beef with the frat girls

    plus if i need to piss,i know my beautiful seat will be waiting


    You, my friend, have obviously never heard of the "Stadium Pal"

    http://www.stadiumpal.com/
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    PahkTheCah wrote:
    You, my friend, have obviously never heard of the "Stadium Pal"

    http://www.stadiumpal.com/


    luckily i dont drink beer during shows so im usually ok lol

    i dont think ill buy that anytime soon , but it seems cool
  • merlin2600merlin2600 Posts: 63
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    understood that people werent old enough to join the 10c in the early days
    but again me personally ..i cant do anything about that

    the 10c decides senority is the way to go

    at least some people have the chance to be close this mini-tour with the random rows thing

    the fact is this good senority people want to keep it the same
    the others vice versa

    luckily 10c agrees lol

    The way I see it you had the chance in '94 and you've earned it by keeping your membership up since then. If they go back to the old way after this I won't complain....even with my 1998 number I seem to move up a few rows every show...
  • Moonlight ChefMoonlight Chef Posts: 24
    PahkTheCah wrote:
    You, my friend, have obviously never heard of the "Stadium Pal"

    http://www.stadiumpal.com/

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  • RoeghmannRoeghmann Posts: 968
    mjb wrote:
    the band simply changed their views on GA on the floor after the Rokslide...seem to be a little more open to the idea of a GA floor - someone can confirm but I believe there were a few shows in 06' and all the festivals.

    europe is 90% GA - copenhagen 2007 was GA!

    In my opinion GA is the only way!
    Run away my son. See it all. Oh see the world.
  • GreenTeaDiseaseGreenTeaDisease Posts: 3,359
    I saw PJ GA in 1996 and it was the worst PJ show I've been to date.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,950
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    some of us are getting to old to be throwing elbows all night at drunk fuckers who try and push on in


    im there to enjoy not beef with the frat girls

    plus if i need to piss,i know my beautiful seat will be waiting
    Agreed on all counts (though I make it a point to not leave to piss, one advantage of not drinking).
    This weekend we rock Portland
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