aclu can kiss my ass !

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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I guess the ACLU should start issuing lawsuits to children in public schools that are wearing or displaying religious symbols as well. Technically, the state is funding their education, much like they are paying for this graduation site.


    No, it's just fine for students to wear things that represent them and their faith. But it's NOT ok for the school to display religious symbols or endorse one religion over another.

    Exactly.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    And I don't believe that this case falls under that restriction. This is like going after a school for organizing a field trip to the Alamo ... technically it's a Christian mission and students would be forced to endure seeing religious symbols on the taxpayer's dime, even though that is clearly not the intention of the field trip.
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    Jason P wrote:
    And I don't believe that this case falls under that restriction. This is like going after a school for organizing a field trip to the Alamo ... technically it's a Christian mission and students would be forced to endure seeing religious symbols on the taxpayer's dime, even though that is clearly not the intention of the field trip.

    Interesting point.
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  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    Jason P wrote:
    And I don't believe that this case falls under that restriction. This is like going after a school for organizing a field trip to the Alamo ... technically it's a Christian mission and students would be forced to endure seeing religious symbols on the taxpayer's dime, even though that is clearly not the intention of the field trip.

    One could argue though that because the graduation ceremony is a rite of passage, it holds a different meaning than a field trip to an historical site which also is a christian mission.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    markin ball wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    And I don't believe that this case falls under that restriction. This is like going after a school for organizing a field trip to the Alamo ... technically it's a Christian mission and students would be forced to endure seeing religious symbols on the taxpayer's dime, even though that is clearly not the intention of the field trip.

    One could argue though that because the graduation ceremony is a rite of passage, it holds a different meaning than a field trip to an historical site which also is a christian mission.
    Perhaps ... but I think we can at least agree that the choosen venue beats having it in a stinky H.S. gym ... like mine :( .

    Anyway, most these kids are more concerned with the after-parties anyway rather then where the graduation is held. :D

    Damn you ACLU for making me waste mental energy on this issue!
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jason P wrote:
    markin ball wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    And I don't believe that this case falls under that restriction. This is like going after a school for organizing a field trip to the Alamo ... technically it's a Christian mission and students would be forced to endure seeing religious symbols on the taxpayer's dime, even though that is clearly not the intention of the field trip.

    One could argue though that because the graduation ceremony is a rite of passage, it holds a different meaning than a field trip to an historical site which also is a christian mission.
    Perhaps ... but I think we can at least agree that the choosen venue beats having it in a stinky H.S. gym ... like mine :( .

    Anyway, most these kids are more concerned with the after-parties anyway rather then where the graduation is held. :D

    Damn you ACLU for making me waste mental energy on this issue!


    :lol::lol::lol:
  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    Jason P wrote:
    markin ball wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    And I don't believe that this case falls under that restriction. This is like going after a school for organizing a field trip to the Alamo ... technically it's a Christian mission and students would be forced to endure seeing religious symbols on the taxpayer's dime, even though that is clearly not the intention of the field trip.

    One could argue though that because the graduation ceremony is a rite of passage, it holds a different meaning than a field trip to an historical site which also is a christian mission.
    Perhaps ... but I think we can at least agree that the choosen venue beats having it in a stinky H.S. gym ... like mine :( .

    Anyway, most these kids are more concerned with the after-parties anyway rather then where the graduation is held. :D

    Damn you ACLU for making me waste mental energy on this issue!

    Ain't that the truth. Those gyms seldom have a/c.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Now here is an issue that the ACLU should have their panties in a bunch over.

    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/05/20/biblical-theme-park-coming-kentucky-government-assistance/
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  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    Jason P wrote:
    Now here is an issue that the ACLU should have their panties in a bunch over.

    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/05/20/biblical-theme-park-coming-kentucky-government-assistance/

    Reminds me of a stat I saw recently that showed Jerry Falwell's Liberty University (a private evangelical christian school) was receiving 10x more money from the federal government than public broadcasting was.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Jason P wrote:
    Now here is an issue that the ACLU should have their panties in a bunch over.

    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/05/20/biblical-theme-park-coming-kentucky-government-assistance/

    Well no..

    The ACLU doesn't concern themselves with dumb-ass Christianazi politicians doing backward ass things like that.

    If they infringe on someone's rights... then the ACLU steps in.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Now here is an issue that the ACLU should have their panties in a bunch over.

    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/05/20/biblical-theme-park-coming-kentucky-government-assistance/

    Well no..

    The ACLU doesn't concern themselves with dumb-ass Christianazi politicians doing backward ass things like that.

    If they infringe on someone's rights... then the ACLU steps in.

    like cross' on a building or on a piece of land.......F-em !

    Godfather.
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Godfather. wrote:
    like cross' on a building or on a piece of land.......F-em !

    Godfather.


    Don't be silly. There are buildings with crosses on them all over the place. There are also religious symbols all over the country on pieces of land.

    That's just fine. Private property that doesn't use public funds can push any religion or ideology they want, whether anyone agrees with it or not.

    But advocating one religion over another using public funds is where we get into the grey area.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    and F-em they can still kiss my ass and go to hell !!!!
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/26/ne ... ompromise/

    Godfather.
  • markin ball
    markin ball Posts: 1,076
    Godfather. wrote:
    and F-em they can still kiss my ass and go to hell !!!!
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/26/ne ... ompromise/

    Godfather.

    Seems like a very appropriate and reasonable solution to me.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Oh OK wait...

    "The conflict began after the grandmother of one of last year's graduates complained not only about the large white cross adorning the top of the buildings' facade, but of the religious signs inside, and what she felt was a heavily religious tone to the ceremony, which included student-led invocations and the singing of Christian hymns, most notably "Onward Christian Soldiers."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/26/ne ... z1NWrPCojD

    Yeah.. if that's the case... TOTALLY inappropriate.

    Why are Christians always forcing their beliefs down the throats of others?
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    I would like to see the reverse of this, if for whatever reason the venue had been unavailable and been forced to hold it in a mosque or synagogue, would the majority of Christian attendees have not been offended by non-Christian symbols and signs?

    The ACLU can be pretty annoying at times, but they do serve a purpose. They're kind of like the cops, they annoy the hell out of me, but they are necessary and sometimes we need them. The same cop once gave me a speeding ticket, then later the same week helped me out when my car broke down on the side of the road.

    Seems to me all these people had to do was put up a couple of banners to cover up the signs, like they eventually did, and this wouldn't have been a story.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Oh OK wait...

    "The conflict began after the grandmother of one of last year's graduates complained not only about the large white cross adorning the top of the buildings' facade, but of the religious signs inside, and what she felt was a heavily religious tone to the ceremony, which included student-led invocations and the singing of Christian hymns, most notably "Onward Christian Soldiers."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/26/ne ... z1NWrPCojD

    Yeah.. if that's the case... TOTALLY inappropriate.

    Why are Christians always forcing their beliefs down the throats of others?

    ?????? and other groups don't...tell ya what lets try this..
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Jason P wrote:
    Now here is an issue that the ACLU should have their panties in a bunch over.

    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/05/20/biblical-theme-park-coming-kentucky-government-assistance/
    That's a bunch of bullshit.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Godfather. wrote:
    Why are Christians always forcing their beliefs down the throats of others?

    ?????? and other groups don't...

    I've never seen a gay group sponsor a ballot initiative to take away the rights of Christians to marry.

    I've never seen a Buddhist group throw huge fits when people don't want to celebrate with them.

    I've never been to a graduation ceremony for a public school held in a synagogue where students read from the Torah and sang "Let my people go."

    I've never seen a group of deaf people pressure their governor to not allow hearing couples to see each other in the hospital.

    I've never heard of Asian Americans trying to stop non-Asians from adopting children.

    I don't recall a group of Native Americans bombing an abortion clinic or pushing for laws limiting access to women's health care.

    I've never seen a group of red heads trying to make it legal for people with blond hair to be fired from their jobs, evicted from their houses and denied access to their children.

    I've never seen a transgendered group picketing schools because they have books that talk about kids with a mother and a father.

    I don't ever recall a gay person coming to my door asking if I'd like to take their gay propaganda magazines and talk to me about becoming a gay person.

    There is no Wiccan group that spends millions of dollars lobbying the UN to rail against the rights of Christians.

    There is no lesbian collective that has supported politicians in Uganda who are trying to pass a law making heterosexuality punishable by death.

    In Italy, you can't be refused a driver's license because your'e straight but it's happened that gay men are only allowed "disabled" driver's licenses because they're "mentally ill."

    No Gay couple has ever thrown their teenager out on the street once they discover he's straight.

    I've never seen a politician say that a straight teenager killed himself because of his "choice" to have sex with girls.

    Gay people don't have cross-country bus tours whose sole purpose is to overturn legislation that legalizes the marriages of straight people.





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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Why are Christians always forcing their beliefs down the throats of others?

    ?????? and other groups don't...

    I've never seen a gay group sponsor a ballot initiative to take away the rights of Christians to marry.

    I've never seen a Buddhist group throw huge fits when people don't want to celebrate with them.

    I've never been to a graduation ceremony for a public school held in a synagogue where students read from the Torah and sang "Let my people go."

    I've never seen a group of deaf people pressure their governor to not allow hearing couples to see each other in the hospital.

    I've never heard of Asian Americans trying to stop non-Asians from adopting children.

    I don't recall a group of Native Americans bombing an abortion clinic or pushing for laws limiting access to women's health care.

    I've never seen a group of red heads trying to make it legal for people with blond hair to be fired from their jobs, evicted from their houses and denied access to their children.

    I've never seen a transgendered group picketing schools because they have books that talk about kids with a mother and a father.

    I don't ever recall a gay person coming to my door asking if I'd like to take their gay propaganda magazines and talk to me about becoming a gay person.

    There is no Wiccan group that spends millions of dollars lobbying the UN to rail against the rights of Christians.

    There is no lesbian collective that has supported politicians in Uganda who are trying to pass a law making heterosexuality punishable by death.

    In Italy, you can't be refused a driver's license because your'e straight but it's happened that gay men are only allowed "disabled" driver's licenses because they're "mentally ill."

    No Gay couple has ever thrown their teenager out on the street once they discover he's straight.

    I've never seen a politician say that a straight teenager killed himself because of his "choice" to have sex with girls.

    Gay people don't have cross-country bus tours whose sole purpose is to overturn legislation that legalizes the marriages of straight people.





    You want me to keep going?

    ohh yea the gay thing..what ever man.
    and what have you seen ? the gay people trying to adopt kid's
    and having parades screaming "we're queer and we're here"
    save your "silly" yacking for your friend's who care to listen.
    have a nice day. :D

    Godfather.

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