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aclu can kiss my ass !

Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
edited May 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/17/ac ... t-dispute/

F-em !!!!!
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    This is a good example Political Correctness taking a turn for the retarded.
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    I agree with the theory behind much of the aclu's actions however it looks like they could pick their battles more wisely sometimes. However i'll have to look into this independently since we have fox news bringing us this story.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    edited May 2011
    Your strong response to a relatively minor issue reflects how fox news attempts to manipulate others. Sorry you buy into it. Their conservative agenda underlies nearly every story. Listen to the words hannity chooses when talking about something. It's interesting, because he's intentionally twisting stories and choosing specific words to push an agenda, but on the surface, tries to make it look like he's just a regular guy, a straight talker, standing up for common sense and good ol' traditional American values.
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  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    you got that right.......

    One person was offended. One!
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,436
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Your strong response to a relatively minor issue reflects how fox news attempts to manipulate others. Sorry you buy into it. Their conservative agenda underlies nearly every story. Listen to the words hannity chooses when talking about something. It's interesting, because he's intentionally twisting stories and choosing specific words to push an agenda, but on the surface, tries to make it look like he's just a regular guy, a straight talker, standing up for common sense and good ol' traditional American values.

    Good points all around, Go Beavers!

    And let's face it, not everything ACLU does works even for all of it's members- you can't please everybody. But rather than a quick verbal jab such as "kiss my ass", you would gain more by recognizing the valuable work they've done and becoming a member and voicing your concerns constructively. They do listen to members!
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  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    brianlux wrote:
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Your strong response to a relatively minor issue reflects how fox news attempts to manipulate others. Sorry you buy into it. Their conservative agenda underlies nearly every story. Listen to the words hannity chooses when talking about something. It's interesting, because he's intentionally twisting stories and choosing specific words to push an agenda, but on the surface, tries to make it look like he's just a regular guy, a straight talker, standing up for common sense and good ol' traditional American values.

    Good points all around, Go Beavers!

    And let's face it, not everything ACLU does works even for all of it's members- you can't please everybody. But rather than a quick verbal jab such as "kiss my ass", you would gain more by recognizing the valuable work they've done and becoming a member and voicing your concerns constructively. They do listen to members!

    Good points both :thumbup:
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    I wouldn't go to a graduation ceremony if it was held in a church and I had to stare at electric propaganda signs glaring in my face.

    My loss, I guess.. or theirs.

    That said.. this is Fox News. And they seldom actually report the news honestly. So I have a feeling that this is just more "GET ANGRY AT SOMETHING UNIMPORTANT AND VOTE FOR THE GUY WHO ALSO WANTS TO TAX YOU MORE SO THE OIL COMPANIES CAN MAKE A FEW BILLION MORE THIS YEAR!!!!"
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    yuck. I wouldn't go to graduation there either.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    I wouldn't go to a graduation ceremony if it was held in a church and I had to stare at electric propaganda signs glaring in my face.

    My loss, I guess.. or theirs.

    That said.. this is Fox News. And they seldom actually report the news honestly. So I have a feeling that this is just more "GET ANGRY AT SOMETHING UNIMPORTANT AND VOTE FOR THE GUY WHO ALSO WANTS TO TAX YOU MORE SO THE OIL COMPANIES CAN MAKE A FEW BILLION MORE THIS YEAR!!!!"
    Very good point. Those that think it is offensive stay home and let those that enjoy graduation in a building with history alone. Damn these people act as though this is a strip club or something....
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    I wouldn't go to a graduation ceremony if it was held in a church and I had to stare at electric propaganda signs glaring in my face.

    My loss, I guess.. or theirs.

    That said.. this is Fox News. And they seldom actually report the news honestly. So I have a feeling that this is just more "GET ANGRY AT SOMETHING UNIMPORTANT AND VOTE FOR THE GUY WHO ALSO WANTS TO TAX YOU MORE SO THE OIL COMPANIES CAN MAKE A FEW BILLION MORE THIS YEAR!!!!"

    This IS important to those that want there grad. to be part of a tradition that has been going on for years. This is part of there culture and traditon and they want to keep it.
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Here is an NBC report on the story, as I know quite a few dislike going to the Fox website.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Fight-Over-Religious-Symbol-Could-Stall-NJ-Graduation-Ceremony-121698814.html

    They report that their was one complaint by a woman last year who attended the graduation services. It also reports that she doesn't even live in the school district.

    I can only imagine the emotional damage and suffering that was dealt upon her by seeing a total of four religious artifacts while visiting from out of town to attend a high school graduation. Thank the Lord that the ACLU has stepped in to prevent countless (if you can only count to 20) future victims from suffering the same emotional fate.

    Godspeed, ACLU, godspeed.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,436
    Jason P wrote:
    Here is an NBC report on the story, as I know quite a few dislike going to the Fox website.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Fight-Over-Religious-Symbol-Could-Stall-NJ-Graduation-Ceremony-121698814.html

    They report that their was one complaint by a woman last year who attended the graduation services. It also reports that she doesn't even live in the school district.

    I can only imagine the emotional damage and suffering that was dealt upon her by seeing a total of four religious artifacts while visiting from out of town to attend a high school graduation. Thank the Lord that the ACLU has stepped in to prevent countless (if you can only count to 20) future victims from suffering the same emotional fate.

    Godspeed, ACLU, godspeed.
    So like I said, become a member and voice your opinion so that you can do something actively. Just don't disclude in your thinking the many positive things the ACLU has done to fight racism, insure civil liberites, etc.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I'm still going with the F-em call,what a bunch of dusch bag's !!! if they think they can force the symbols of a releigen out of a school graduation hall (tradtion of 70 years) whats next ? the cloths you wear,maybe german cars will banned from your neighborhood because it's past affilation with hitler..again I say F-em ! and the friggin horse they rode in on. :twisted: :lol:

    Godfather.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    brianlux wrote:
    So like I said, become a member and voice your opinion so that you can do something actively. Just don't disclude in your thinking the many positive things the ACLU has done to fight racism, insure civil liberites, etc.
    I only have enough free time to post ramblings on Pearl Jam message board, less yet join a group of scum-sucking lawyers in debate. :)

    My biggest problem is that the ACLU operates on the theory of "slippery slope" and will defend anybody, even if it defies common sense. Perhaps the world needs this type of group to maintain balance, but I have big issues in their inability to operate outside of black-and-white guidelines.
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  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    I feel for the people losing out on their tradition but maybe their tradition is illegal. Public school...public money...public building. Having religious symbols present is not appropriate.

    I think there would be a whole lot of hooting and hollering if a public school, funded by tax dollars, had its rite of passage graduation ceremony in an Islamic temple.

    If their tradition is so important perhaps these citizens would like to hold an additional ceremony at this church on their own dime.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    America has always held the thought of Gods love and the teachings of Jesus Christ..right from the start..not islam not hindu not anything but God and the teaching of Jesus,and everybody has been able to worship their own way or God
    so now some dusch group want's to change what this country has been for over 200 years....F-em !

    Godfather.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    Godfather. wrote:
    America has always held the thought of Gods love and the teachings of Jesus Christ..right from the start..not islam not hindu not anything but God and the teaching of Jesus,and everybody has been able to worship their own way or God
    so now some dusch group want's to change what this country has been for over 200 years....F-em !

    Godfather.

    You can't be serious on this post.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    Godfather. wrote:
    I'm still going with the F-em call,what a bunch of dusch bag's !!! if they think they can force the symbols of a releigen out of a school graduation hall (tradtion of 70 years) whats next ? the cloths you wear,maybe german cars will banned from your neighborhood because it's past affilation with hitler..again I say F-em ! and the friggin horse they rode in on. :twisted: :lol:

    Godfather.

    Yes, that's what's next. No German cars! You need to be afraid because soon you will have no freedoms whatsoever. You need to listen to people who know who the enemy is, buy their books, their t-shirts, their DVD's, see them on tour, and watch their news shows. If you don't listen to those people, you wont know who the enemies are that threaten your very existence, and then what will you do?
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    Godfather. wrote:
    America has always held the thought of Gods love and the teachings of Jesus Christ..right from the start..not islam not hindu not anything but God and the teaching of Jesus,and everybody has been able to worship their own way or God
    so now some dusch group want's to change what this country has been for over 200 years....F-em !

    Godfather.

    Many things change. Mistakes are made, wrongs are righted. Segregation/slavery are good examples of ways of American life that were around from the very beginning but are now unacceptable.

    Besides, this is a taxation issue at the heart of it. Your god will not be taken away from you, they just don't want to contribute to his advertising budget.
    "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."

    "With our thoughts we make the world"
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    I'm still going with the F-em call,what a bunch of dusch bag's !!! if they think they can force the symbols of a releigen out of a school graduation hall (tradtion of 70 years) whats next ? the cloths you wear,maybe german cars will banned from your neighborhood because it's past affilation with hitler..again I say F-em ! and the friggin horse they rode in on. :twisted: :lol:

    Godfather.

    Yes, that's what's next. No German cars! You need to be afraid because soon you will have no freedoms whatsoever. You need to listen to people who know who the enemy is, buy their books, their t-shirts, their DVD's, see them on tour, and watch their news shows. If you don't listen to those people, you wont know who the enemies are that threaten your very existence, and then what will you do?

    I'll crack open a beer light a cig then throw the spent butt and empty can on the grassy knoll by the book building...and then......read gone with the wind while I listen to somewhere over the rainbow on my I-Pod. ;)

    Godfather.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    I don't really know where this thread is heading, but i want to make one thing clear, i am NOT giving up my Volkswagen, that little fuckers a Tank!!!
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,430
    any adult that is offended or uses the word fair.....can kiss my ass.

    i know....i am insensitive and evil.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • aerialaerial Posts: 2,319
    markin ball wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    America has always held the thought of Gods love and the teachings of Jesus Christ..right from the start..not islam not hindu not anything but God and the teaching of Jesus,and everybody has been able to worship their own way or God
    so now some dusch group want's to change what this country has been for over 200 years....F-em !

    Godfather.

    Many things change. Mistakes are made, wrongs are righted. Segregation/slavery are good examples of ways of American life that were around from the very beginning but are now unacceptable.

    Besides, this is a taxation issue at the heart of it. Your god will not be taken away from you, they just don't want to contribute to his advertising budget.


    One person does not want to contribute.
    The rest of the tax payers want what they paid for. The trouble maker does not have to attend or at least practice some Tolerance.
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ajedigecko wrote:
    any adult that is offended or uses the word fair.....can kiss my ass.

    i know....i am insensitive and evil.

    ooohhh CRAP !!! I just spit mashed patatos on my lap :lol:

    and VW tank I love it !!!!! :lol:

    Godfather.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,436
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    America has always held the thought of Gods love and the teachings of Jesus Christ..right from the start..not islam not hindu not anything but God and the teaching of Jesus,and everybody has been able to worship their own way or God
    so now some dusch group want's to change what this country has been for over 200 years....F-em !

    Godfather.

    You can't be serious on this post.

    I think Godfather is serious, Go Beavers, which is why I'm grabbing my ACLU card and jumping off this thread quick as I can! ;)
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  • bgivens33bgivens33 Posts: 290
    This separation of church and state issue has gotten out of control. If you don't like it, then legislate something to that effect... but stop running to the courts. And I am definitely an ACLU fan, I just think they need to pick better fights.
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    edited May 2011
    aerial wrote:
    This IS important to those that want there grad. to be part of a tradition that has been going on for years. This is part of there culture and traditon and they want to keep it.


    hm. Same argument used against gay marriage and for whites-only water fountains.
    Post edited by Prince Of Dorkness on
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Godfather. wrote:
    America has always held the thought of Gods love and the teachings of Jesus Christ..right from the start..not islam not hindu not anything but God and the teaching of Jesus,and everybody has been able to worship their own way or God
    so now some dusch group want's to change what this country has been for over 200 years....F-em !

    Godfather.

    Actually, that's a total lie. A big bag of bullshit that Christianazis have been trying to shove down our throats but it's a lie. Very few of the founding fathers were Christians. Most agreed it was what was wrong with the world.

    This country was founded by people trying to escape religious persecution. Not institutionalize it.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,436
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    America has always held the thought of Gods love and the teachings of Jesus Christ..right from the start..not islam not hindu not anything but God and the teaching of Jesus,and everybody has been able to worship their own way or God
    so now some dusch group want's to change what this country has been for over 200 years....F-em !

    Godfather.

    Actually, that's a total lie. A big bag of bullshit that Christianazis have been trying to shove down our throats but it's a lie. Very few of the founding fathers were Christians. Most agreed it was what was wrong with the world.

    This country was founded by people trying to escape religious persecution. Not institutionalize it.

    I know... I said I was outa here, but this comment reminded me of this quote:

    "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies."

    (Benjamin Franklin, in_"Toward The Mystery")

    For more evidence that few Founding Fathers were practicing Christians check this out:
    http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    America has always held the thought of Gods love and the teachings of Jesus Christ..right from the start..not islam not hindu not anything but God and the teaching of Jesus,and everybody has been able to worship their own way or God
    so now some dusch group want's to change what this country has been for over 200 years....F-em !

    Godfather.

    Actually, that's a total lie. A big bag of bullshit that Christianazis have been trying to shove down our throats but it's a lie. Very few of the founding fathers were Christians. Most agreed it was what was wrong with the world.

    This country was founded by people trying to escape religious persecution. Not institutionalize it.

    I thought we we were escaping huge tax's....looks like that bit us in the ass. :lol: and still living the lie. ;)

    Godfather.
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