bowling for columbine

nothing_man_92
nothing_man_92 Canberra, Australia Posts: 347
edited May 2011 in A Moving Train
Just watched bowling for columbine and it really scared me. America is such a powerful country and they have ALOT of problems. Someone really needs to do something about it.
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  • force-10
    force-10 Posts: 794
    Its not about the united states. It also occured in countries like finland and most recently, brasil. You can´t stop it, no matter what governments do to prevent it. A man, a woman, a child will kill another human being any time of any given day. Guns help, but you can kill someone without one as well.
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  • nothing_man_92
    nothing_man_92 Canberra, Australia Posts: 347
    The gun laws aren't what scared me the most its how the country seems so brainwashed by the media how they are led to believe that they need deadly weapons to protect themselves against petty burglars.
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    happiness is warm gun.
  • nothing_man_92
    nothing_man_92 Canberra, Australia Posts: 347
    Bang bang shoot shoot
  • force-10
    force-10 Posts: 794
    CH156378 wrote:
    happiness is warm gun.

    did you post this as you serious personal statement, using the beatles songtitle?

    or do you share what john lennon meant on the song?
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    force-10 wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:
    happiness is warm gun.

    did you post this as you serious personal statement, using the beatles songtitle?

    or do you share what john lennon meant on the song?

    i have never even held a gun. i hate them. although i am glad someone shot bin laden in the face.
  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    so what lennon meant.
  • force-10
    force-10 Posts: 794
    CH156378 wrote:
    i have never even held a gun. i hate them. although i am glad someone shot bin laden in the face.

    are you glad those kids shot the other kids at school? My guess is not.

    I sincerely don´t think you are a bad person and I don´t want to directly attack you, but...

    posting "happiness is a warm gun" in a bowling for columbine thread is stupid, disrespectful, and shameless from your part.

    The beatles song is about sex, btw.
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    i apologize. i also didn't know that about the beatles song. i thought it was an anti gun song. i kind of like it better that way. again sorry for any disrespect i can be a real "carnival barker."
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Was a good documentary. Accessibility to weapons makes matters worse. From bad to terrible. Add in societal pressures or issues,it's a disaster waiting to happen. And in this case..did.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    force-10 wrote:
    Its not about the united states. It also occured in countries like finland and most recently, brasil. You can´t stop it, no matter what governments do to prevent it. A man, a woman, a child will kill another human being any time of any given day. Guns help, but you can kill someone without one as well.

    There have been the odd shooting incidents in practically every country in the world at one time or another, but this doesn't change the fact that gun crime in the U.S isn't a masive problem. Every other week someone goes into a school in the U.S and shoots a bunch of people. This doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.

    The U.S has a problem with the proliferation of guns. This is not debatable, it's a fact.
  • threefish10
    threefish10 Posts: 7,392
    force-10 wrote:
    Its not about the united states. It also occured in countries like finland and most recently, brasil. You can´t stop it, no matter what governments do to prevent it. A man, a woman, a child will kill another human being any time of any given day. Guns help, but you can kill someone without one as well.


    Yes, but a gun is a very impersonal weapon. A lot of the problem is these multiple shootings of random people. A gunman just walks through a crowd mowing people down with out really seeing the damage done, you give the same person a knife or tell the to choke their victims to death they would not have the balls to do it.

    After a mass shooting in Australia we change our gun laws a lot and gun crime has gone down dramatically, but knife crime and other weapon crimes have not gone up to compensate, they have stayed the same as before gun reform.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    As a gun owner, I'm in favor of passing restrictions on handguns and making them more difficult to obtain to help make sure that responsible people are buying them, but I'm in the minority of people that are pro-gun / higher restrictions. The NRA has done a very good job projecting their views upon the pro-gun majority.

    I don't see much changing as the politicians are scared shitless of the pro-gun lobby.
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  • butterjam
    butterjam Posts: 221
    Byrnzie wrote:

    Every other week someone goes into a school in the U.S and shoots a bunch of people.


    Every other week? Where do you get your "news" from?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    311jj wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:

    Every other week someone goes into a school in the U.S and shoots a bunch of people.


    Every other week? Where do you get your "news" from?

    Yeah, every other week. In a school, or shopping centre, or some other public place. Every other week someone in the U.S picks up a gun and kills a bunch of people.

    Feel free to post the statistics.
  • butterjam
    butterjam Posts: 221
    Byrnzie wrote:
    311jj wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:

    Every other week someone goes into a school in the U.S and shoots a bunch of people.


    Every other week? Where do you get your "news" from?

    Yeah, every other week. In a school, or shopping centre, or some other public place. Every other week someone in the U.S picks up a gun and kills a bunch of people.

    Feel free to post the statistics.


    You want me to post statistics of something I think doesn't happen? I'm asking you where you get this information that every other week there is a shootout. I think the burden of doubt lies on you to prove this.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    311jj wrote:
    You want me to post statistics of something I think doesn't happen? I'm asking you where you get this information that every other week there is a shootout. I think the burden of doubt lies on you to prove this.


    In 2005 there were 10,100 homicides committed using firearms in the United States.
    There are 365 days in the year.
    Do the math.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,431
    i will back up byrnzie on this. last year i was going to make a thread called "gun violence" dedicated only to news articles of mass shootings in the united states. i asked a few posters if i should do it and ask to have it "stickied" but then i thought better of that idea. it is almost pointless to point out all of the incidents because it is not going to change anything and the 2nd ammendment is not going anywhere anytime soon. maybe it would be a good time to revisit that idea since we seem to be so numb to it as a culture.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://thegreenman.net.au/mt/gun_deaths_in_usa.htm

    In 2001 there were 11,671 homicides caused by firearms in the U.S.

    There are just 365 days in a year. So maybe I should edit my post above from 'every other day' to 'every hour.'
  • butterjam
    butterjam Posts: 221
    What I was calling into question was that schools were getting shot up every other week.

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