Every Candidate provides documentation/paperwork that proves they are eligible to run for president. Obama provided the legal documentS and only one Hawaii provides.
Only one president was continually questioned about his birthplace.
who just happens to be black.....with a funny Muslim name.
I find it funny that people make such a big deal about this topic yet fail to mention the fact that he is now the only US President to ever have to actually provide the document. It's in the text to do, but has never been enforced...ever.
As for the people who have and will continue to complain, it would have been much easier to type - "I do not like Obama and will therefore take things into exception to hold against him that I probably would not if my candidate or party had been in office".
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I find it funny that people make such a big deal about this topic yet fail to mention the fact that he is now the only US President to ever have to actually provide the document. It's in the text to do, but has never been enforced...ever.
Thanks For proving your Innocence President Obama. :roll:
He should never have had to. End of story. All the other presidents didn't have to publicly do it. Now that he has done it, every president after should have to, also. What's good for one, is good for all. :think:
As for the people who have and will continue to complain, it would have been much easier to type - "I do not like Obama and will therefore take things into exception to hold against him that I probably would not if my candidate or party had been in office".
of course it's about race. what else would it be about? they fear this guy because they think since his name rhymes with Osama that he's going to walk into the white house one day with a bomb strapped to his chest and blow everyone up.
the fear these people exhibit out of pure ignorance is staggering. if he produced a fucking video tape of him sliding out of his mother's pelvis they'd say it was a newborn actor protraying the future president.
there's wackos that claim shit during every presidency, it just so happens that it's easier to claim that he is actually "with the enemy" this time around because it's visual. people are stupid that way.
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and I think releasing it is a mistake. he shouldn't have had to. he just added fuel to his own fire. paying attention and giving credence to the asses out there only breeds more assy behaviour.
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i posted this in the other thread to make sure everyone sees it, but didn't want to offend the thread police by making another thread that would be on the front page at the same time as the other two... :roll:
i agree with this. turnabout is fair play. be sure to watch the video on the link....it is pretty good...
Donald Trump Should Receive The Same Scrutiny He Sought For Barack Obama
O tempora, o mores, what a day, what a day, right? This morning's tilt-a-whirl news conference, in which President Barack Obama decided to release his long form birth certificate, to satiate some pure-bred American nutters in thrall to the President's most disingenuous -- or paranoid -- opponents, was an event I never thought would come, because I just figured that the White House had the eminent good sense to know that conspiracists should not be negotiated with - just like terrorists.
But here we are today. The President of the United States has brandished documentation that only proved that there was never a compelling reason to brandish it in the first place, seeing as it only proved what he and every relevant official and the documents that were publicly available had already confirmed: that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, a pure citizen of these United States.
Chances are it was a confluence of dumb events that brought the White House to this point. A nearly-enacted law in Arizona that wouldn't have been satisfied with the clear proof already available. A campaign season on the horizon. Ed Henry's idiotic questions, posed a day after his own network decided to actually debunk the nonsense once and for all. Franklin Graham's paranoid assertions going unchallenged on a Sunday Morning political show. I think I understand Obama's mindset when he said this:
"We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We have better stuff to do. I have got better stuff to do. We have got big problems to solve...We are not going to be able to do it if we are distracted, we are not going to be able to do it if we spend time vilifying each other ... if we just make stuff up and pretend that facts are not facts, we are not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by side shows and carnival barkers.
Of course, lately, the biggest barker in this barmy carny show has been Donald Trump. Admittedly, he's been the gift that keeps on giving -- the guy who's been telling America that he's going to stick it to China, even while his clothing line is manufactured there. He literally doesn't say much of anything. He rarely even tries: his campaign rhetoric is typically confined to empty bromides and tautological assertions of his great value. But if there's an issue Trump had exerted effort to put into the public square, it's this idiotic birtherism. And today, he claims to be "honored" by the fact that the nation was dragged into this trench.
Well, turnabout is fair play. And if members of the press actually want to end the sideshow, they have a choice: they can be the audience member, or they can be the critic. They can treat the carny barker as an object of ridicule, or better yet, start treating him as if he were a serious candidate. Either way works for me. But they have to quit the circus. They have to stop dancing Trump's dance, and stop performing to his beck and call.
Greg Sargent suggests a great place to start:
George Stepanopoulos reminds us that he recently asked Trump in an interview if he'd release his tax returns if Obama released the birth certificate Trump has been demanding. Trump responded:
"Maybe I'm going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate. I may tie my tax returns. I'd love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama's birth certificate."
Story continues below
I've asked a Trump spokesperson whether he will now release his tax returns in light of this morning's development
The question of whether Trump will follow through no this suggestion goes directly to the heart of whether Trump's presidential flirtation has been a big fraud all along. Those who say it's a ruse argue that Trump will never run for president, because he'd have to reveal that his net worth is far less than he's claimed. Trump, who bristles at this suggestion, sought to dispel such talk by suggesting to Stephanopoulos that he'd release his tax returns if Obama released his birth certificate -- apparently thinking he was secure in the knowledge that Obama would never do this. Now Trump's bluff has been called.
Show us the money, Donald. Show us your grades. Show us the invoices from your crack team of birthernaut investigators that haven't delivered proof, that Obama was born elsewhere or of their existence. Show me a guy from your old neighborhood who even remembers you were around.
And memo to Juli Weiner at Vanity Fair and Justin Elliott at Salon: put those media criticism doodles you got from Trump up on eBay. Let's see what the real world value of Donald Trump's opinion is.
I'll leave you with the thoughts of The Onion's Baratunde Thurston, who basically just went off today when he heard what was happening. Of Trump's birther binge, Thurston says, "It's embarrassing to the entire nation that we would sit and let this happen. We have all been debased by this incident. By this charlatan, by this con man, by this mere promoter of himself."
"No one has ever asked [Trump] to prove anything," Thurston points out. That should change!
watch the video...
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I find it funny that people make such a big deal about this topic yet fail to mention the fact that he is now the only US President to ever have to actually provide the document. It's in the text to do, but has never been enforced...ever.
Hard to imagine you'd get very far in this country without possessing a birth certificate, right? I wouldn't have gotten my driver's license or my passport without my birth certificate. I wouldn't even think to question if Obama was born in this country or not. It's not like it fucking matters. That requirement should have never been put in the Constitution to begin with. If the majority of Americans want you to be their President, that seems like enough of a qualifier to me.
Donald Trump Should Receive The Same Scrutiny He Sought For Barack Obama
I could care less about Trumps grades, birth certificate, and tax returns. I really just want to know what the fuck that thing on his head is. My guess:
* Dead muskrat
* Dryer lint (after drying 5 loads of towels)
* One of Duran Duran's stolen wigs from the 80's
* A mail order hair-piece (4 payments of $29.95 + S&H)
* Dead mus... damn, already listed that
* Hair plugs from a golden retriever
Why doesn't he just give Tom Brady a call and find out who restored his hair?
Donald Trump Should Receive The Same Scrutiny He Sought For Barack Obama
I could care less about Trumps grades, birth certificate, and tax returns. I really just want to know what the fuck that thing on his head is. My guess:
* Dead muskrat
* Dryer lint (after drying 5 loads of towels)
* One of Duran Duran's stolen wigs from the 80's
* A mail order hair-piece (4 payments of $29.95 + S&H)
* Dead mus... damn, already listed that
* Hair plugs from a golden retriever
Why doesn't he just give Tom Brady a call and find out who restored his hair?
Here's something even funnier...Oprah wants to make him over for her last show...hair and all!! what would happen then...his asshat will be exposed!!
of course it's about race. what else would it be about? they fear this guy because they think since his name rhymes with Osama that he's going to walk into the white house one day with a bomb strapped to his chest and blow everyone up.
the fear these people exhibit out of pure ignorance is staggering. if he produced a fucking video tape of him sliding out of his mother's pelvis they'd say it was a newborn actor protraying the future president.
there's wackos that claim shit during every presidency, it just so happens that it's easier to claim that he is actually "with the enemy" this time around because it's visual. people are stupid that way.
Personally, I can't believe people are still talking about this issue. It's been over 3 years!! The "secret Muslim" stuff gets me even more. The same people that accuse him of being a secret Muslim are the same people who criticized him for being a member of a baptist congregation on the south side with Jeremiah Wright as it's pastor! last time I checked, Muslims dint attend church...
And so WHAT if he was Muslim?!? There are a lot of idiots and whackjobs in every religion. This country is too damn obsessed with the idea that Muslim people are all razor blade wielding hijackers. (What about Tim McVeigh?? He wasn't a Muslim)
Makes much more sense...
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So if it's a race issue than I guess that would make Hillary Clinton a racist since it was her and her lawyers that started this whole thing. I myself thought it was odd that he wouldn't release it. Also I think a lot of you still have your head in the sand when it comes to Obama and his past or you just don't care which I find even more troublesome.
Barack Obama's eligibilty was first brought to the fore by lawyers acting on behalf of Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008
Forgotten Truth: "Hillary Clinton Mother of all birthers"
Nearly all liberals, as well as a few misguided conservatives, have sought to dismiss the “birther” movement as the product of right-wing retards barking up the wrong tree.
However, the entire issue of Barack Obama’s eligibility was first brought to the fore by lawyers acting on behalf of Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008.
Specifically, Phil J. Berg, hardly a member of any vast right wing conspiracy, was an ardent supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, and her candidacy for the presidency.
Notwithstanding his liberal pedigree, Phil J. Berg was hot on the trail of one Barack Obama, because Berg wished to protect the American people from electing a non-citizen to the most powerful office in the world.
In August 2008, before Obama was officially nominated by the Democrat party, Mr. Berg filed a legal challenge to Obama’s constitutional eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.
On October 23, Mr. Berg filed a Motion to Expedite Resolution of Berg V. Obama, summarized directly below:
” This motion argues that the facts have been established that Barack Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be elected or serve as President of the United States, and that the Court should issue a summary judgment as follows:
That Barack Hussein Obama a/k/a Barry Hussein Obama a/k/a Barack Dunham a/k/a Barry Dunham a/k/a Barack Soetoro a/k/a Barry Soetoro is not a “natural born” or “naturalized” United States citizen.
That he is ineligible to run for and/or serve as President of the United States.
That the Democratic National Committee be enjoined from naming Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the Democratic Presidential Candidate on the ballot.
That the Democratic National Committee and Barack Hussein Obama, et al are enjoined from any further campaigning on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama, et al for Office of the Presidency.
That Barack Hussein Obama’s, et al name be removed from any and all ballots for the Office of the President of the United States.”
the race card is pulled everytime,It's just an ez defense to create a smoke screen to avoid the real issue.
btw I don't care where obama was born and I'm glad he produced one just so this crap can come to some sort of rest....and I think trumph is acting like an ass also, so we have a president that has no business being in office and wealthy ass with dieherria of the mouth threating to run for office what next ????? justin bieber for his running mate or how about Kieth Richards as house speaker.
the race card is pulled everytime,It's just an ez defense to create a smoke screen to avoid the real issue.
btw I don't care where obama was born and I'm glad he produced one just so this crap can come to some sort of rest....and I think trumph is acting like an ass also, so we have a president that has no business being in office and wealthy ass with dieherria of the mouth threating to run for office what next ????? justin bieber for his running mate or how about Kieth Richards as house speaker.
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Keith Richards might be kind of cool...he probably can't be worse...he might succeed in finally getting the marijuana laws reformed .
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Only one president was continually questioned about his birthplace.
who just happens to be black.....with a funny Muslim name.
this obviously has NOTHING to do with race.
As for the people who have and will continue to complain, it would have been much easier to type - "I do not like Obama and will therefore take things into exception to hold against him that I probably would not if my candidate or party had been in office".
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
I did mention that on page 2...
Agreed.
the fear these people exhibit out of pure ignorance is staggering. if he produced a fucking video tape of him sliding out of his mother's pelvis they'd say it was a newborn actor protraying the future president.
there's wackos that claim shit during every presidency, it just so happens that it's easier to claim that he is actually "with the enemy" this time around because it's visual. people are stupid that way.
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i agree with this. turnabout is fair play. be sure to watch the video on the link....it is pretty good...
Donald Trump Should Receive The Same Scrutiny He Sought For Barack Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/2 ... 54583.html
O tempora, o mores, what a day, what a day, right? This morning's tilt-a-whirl news conference, in which President Barack Obama decided to release his long form birth certificate, to satiate some pure-bred American nutters in thrall to the President's most disingenuous -- or paranoid -- opponents, was an event I never thought would come, because I just figured that the White House had the eminent good sense to know that conspiracists should not be negotiated with - just like terrorists.
But here we are today. The President of the United States has brandished documentation that only proved that there was never a compelling reason to brandish it in the first place, seeing as it only proved what he and every relevant official and the documents that were publicly available had already confirmed: that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, a pure citizen of these United States.
Chances are it was a confluence of dumb events that brought the White House to this point. A nearly-enacted law in Arizona that wouldn't have been satisfied with the clear proof already available. A campaign season on the horizon. Ed Henry's idiotic questions, posed a day after his own network decided to actually debunk the nonsense once and for all. Franklin Graham's paranoid assertions going unchallenged on a Sunday Morning political show. I think I understand Obama's mindset when he said this:
"We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We have better stuff to do. I have got better stuff to do. We have got big problems to solve...We are not going to be able to do it if we are distracted, we are not going to be able to do it if we spend time vilifying each other ... if we just make stuff up and pretend that facts are not facts, we are not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by side shows and carnival barkers.
Of course, lately, the biggest barker in this barmy carny show has been Donald Trump. Admittedly, he's been the gift that keeps on giving -- the guy who's been telling America that he's going to stick it to China, even while his clothing line is manufactured there. He literally doesn't say much of anything. He rarely even tries: his campaign rhetoric is typically confined to empty bromides and tautological assertions of his great value. But if there's an issue Trump had exerted effort to put into the public square, it's this idiotic birtherism. And today, he claims to be "honored" by the fact that the nation was dragged into this trench.
Well, turnabout is fair play. And if members of the press actually want to end the sideshow, they have a choice: they can be the audience member, or they can be the critic. They can treat the carny barker as an object of ridicule, or better yet, start treating him as if he were a serious candidate. Either way works for me. But they have to quit the circus. They have to stop dancing Trump's dance, and stop performing to his beck and call.
Greg Sargent suggests a great place to start:
George Stepanopoulos reminds us that he recently asked Trump in an interview if he'd release his tax returns if Obama released the birth certificate Trump has been demanding. Trump responded:
"Maybe I'm going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate. I may tie my tax returns. I'd love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama's birth certificate."
Story continues below
I've asked a Trump spokesperson whether he will now release his tax returns in light of this morning's development
The question of whether Trump will follow through no this suggestion goes directly to the heart of whether Trump's presidential flirtation has been a big fraud all along. Those who say it's a ruse argue that Trump will never run for president, because he'd have to reveal that his net worth is far less than he's claimed. Trump, who bristles at this suggestion, sought to dispel such talk by suggesting to Stephanopoulos that he'd release his tax returns if Obama released his birth certificate -- apparently thinking he was secure in the knowledge that Obama would never do this. Now Trump's bluff has been called.
Show us the money, Donald. Show us your grades. Show us the invoices from your crack team of birthernaut investigators that haven't delivered proof, that Obama was born elsewhere or of their existence. Show me a guy from your old neighborhood who even remembers you were around.
And memo to Juli Weiner at Vanity Fair and Justin Elliott at Salon: put those media criticism doodles you got from Trump up on eBay. Let's see what the real world value of Donald Trump's opinion is.
I'll leave you with the thoughts of The Onion's Baratunde Thurston, who basically just went off today when he heard what was happening. Of Trump's birther binge, Thurston says, "It's embarrassing to the entire nation that we would sit and let this happen. We have all been debased by this incident. By this charlatan, by this con man, by this mere promoter of himself."
"No one has ever asked [Trump] to prove anything," Thurston points out. That should change!
watch the video...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Hard to imagine you'd get very far in this country without possessing a birth certificate, right? I wouldn't have gotten my driver's license or my passport without my birth certificate. I wouldn't even think to question if Obama was born in this country or not. It's not like it fucking matters. That requirement should have never been put in the Constitution to begin with. If the majority of Americans want you to be their President, that seems like enough of a qualifier to me.
Unless you're Al Gore, or Samuel Tilden.
* Dead muskrat
* Dryer lint (after drying 5 loads of towels)
* One of Duran Duran's stolen wigs from the 80's
* A mail order hair-piece (4 payments of $29.95 + S&H)
* Dead mus... damn, already listed that
* Hair plugs from a golden retriever
Why doesn't he just give Tom Brady a call and find out who restored his hair?
Here's something even funnier...Oprah wants to make him over for her last show...hair and all!! what would happen then...his asshat will be exposed!!
Personally, I can't believe people are still talking about this issue. It's been over 3 years!! The "secret Muslim" stuff gets me even more. The same people that accuse him of being a secret Muslim are the same people who criticized him for being a member of a baptist congregation on the south side with Jeremiah Wright as it's pastor! last time I checked, Muslims dint attend church...
And so WHAT if he was Muslim?!? There are a lot of idiots and whackjobs in every religion. This country is too damn obsessed with the idea that Muslim people are all razor blade wielding hijackers. (What about Tim McVeigh?? He wasn't a Muslim)
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Barack Obama's eligibilty was first brought to the fore by lawyers acting on behalf of Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008
Forgotten Truth: "Hillary Clinton Mother of all birthers"
Nearly all liberals, as well as a few misguided conservatives, have sought to dismiss the “birther” movement as the product of right-wing retards barking up the wrong tree.
However, the entire issue of Barack Obama’s eligibility was first brought to the fore by lawyers acting on behalf of Hillary Rodham Clinton in 2008.
Specifically, Phil J. Berg, hardly a member of any vast right wing conspiracy, was an ardent supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton, and her candidacy for the presidency.
Notwithstanding his liberal pedigree, Phil J. Berg was hot on the trail of one Barack Obama, because Berg wished to protect the American people from electing a non-citizen to the most powerful office in the world.
In August 2008, before Obama was officially nominated by the Democrat party, Mr. Berg filed a legal challenge to Obama’s constitutional eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.
On October 23, Mr. Berg filed a Motion to Expedite Resolution of Berg V. Obama, summarized directly below:
” This motion argues that the facts have been established that Barack Obama is not constitutionally qualified to be elected or serve as President of the United States, and that the Court should issue a summary judgment as follows:
That Barack Hussein Obama a/k/a Barry Hussein Obama a/k/a Barack Dunham a/k/a Barry Dunham a/k/a Barack Soetoro a/k/a Barry Soetoro is not a “natural born” or “naturalized” United States citizen.
That he is ineligible to run for and/or serve as President of the United States.
That the Democratic National Committee be enjoined from naming Barack Hussein Obama, et al as the Democratic Presidential Candidate on the ballot.
That the Democratic National Committee and Barack Hussein Obama, et al are enjoined from any further campaigning on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama, et al for Office of the Presidency.
That Barack Hussein Obama’s, et al name be removed from any and all ballots for the Office of the President of the United States.”
btw I don't care where obama was born and I'm glad he produced one just so this crap can come to some sort of rest....and I think trumph is acting like an ass also, so we have a president that has no business being in office and wealthy ass with dieherria of the mouth threating to run for office what next ????? justin bieber for his running mate or how about Kieth Richards as house speaker.
Godfather.
Keith Richards might be kind of cool...he probably can't be worse...he might succeed in finally getting the marijuana laws reformed
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i can't stop laughing at this. i stole it and put it on facebook... :oops:
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
That's fitting; I stole it from Facebook.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I'm Brian.... maybe we're friends... :P
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