I understand where you are coming from but not many Cypriots are as sentimental as you these days and the truth is that things have changed after the 2003-2004 events.
Croats living in serbia were genocided
Serbians living in Croatia the same thing
very wrong on all sides
Mothers are mothers
fathers are fathers
son and daughters are sons and daughters
where ever they come from everyone is the same. WE JUST PUT STUPID FUCKING LABELS ON EACH OTHER
I understand where you are coming from but not many Cypriots are as sentimental as you these days and the truth is that things have changed after the 2003-2004 events.
maybe you talk with Cypriots are in college...i live there 2 years...i wish that i was sentimental...but the truth is different..cos media dont show the pain,that doesnt mean that isnt there...and its a fuckin European country...but has oranges and bananas..not oil..if was oil..now will be a free country..cos now,,,its NOT
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Croats living in serbia were genocided
Serbians living in Croatia the same thing
very wrong on all sides
Mothers are mothers
fathers are fathers
son and daughters are sons and daughters
where ever they come from everyone is the same. WE JUST PUT STUPID FUCKING LABELS ON EACH OTHER
exactly
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Croats living in serbia were genocided
Serbians living in Croatia the same thing
very wrong on all sides
Mothers are mothers
fathers are fathers
son and daughters are sons and daughters
where ever they come from everyone is the same. WE JUST PUT STUPID FUCKING LABELS ON EACH OTHER
What genocide did we commit?!!!! :x
Defending our country which was being invaded? :x
According to your interpretation any country that defends itself is committing genocide. :roll:
Watch all 6 parts, A to F then get back to me once you have learned a bit before labeling my people guilty of genocide, the same goes for all you others that are uneducated on what happened, don't let those idiots at the Hague tell you what to believe. :roll:
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
maybe you talk with Cypriots are in college...i live there 2 years...i wish that i was sentimental...but the truth is different..cos media dont show the pain,that doesnt mean that isnt there...and its a fuckin European country...but has oranges and bananas..not oil..if was oil..now will be a free country..cos now,,,its NOT
Όχι βρε Δημήτρη ....probably a misunderstanding but I am from Cyprus & speak from personal experience!
maybe you talk with Cypriots are in college...i live there 2 years...i wish that i was sentimental...but the truth is different..cos media dont show the pain,that doesnt mean that isnt there...and its a fuckin European country...but has oranges and bananas..not oil..if was oil..now will be a free country..cos now,,,its NOT
Όχι βρε Δημήτρη ....probably a misunderstanding but I am from Cyprus & speak from personal experience!
ok.got it,πατριδα
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The man was such a genocidal monster that Pope John Paul met with him.....
The pope has audiences with lots of 'heads of states' and others. Peres... Netanyahu... Also looking at the history of the Vatican (closest to us WWII), it's VERY murky (remember 'ratlines, Pavelic'?). An audience with the Pope really doesn't mean anything.
Look, it would seem you have a very personal 'tie' to this subject. But one needs to be a bit more objective... a crime is a crime - whoever commits it. Once needs to be held accountable.
The man was such a genocidal monster that Pope John Paul met with him.....
The pope has audiences with lots of 'heads of states' and others. Peres... Netanyahu... Also looking at the history of the Vatican (closest to us WWII), it's VERY murky (remember 'ratlines, Pavelic'?). An audience with the Pope really doesn't mean anything.
Look, it would seem you have a very personal 'tie' to this subject. But one needs to be a bit more objective... a crime is a crime - whoever commits it. Once needs to be held accountable.
I don't think the Pope would want to meet a criminal.
Could you please tell me what crime Gotovina committed?
Defending his homeland from forces that invaded, raped and murdered many innocent Croatian civilians?
And all under the watch of the USA, they helped Croatia prepare for the offensive and they kept a watchful eye as it happened.
Please do not let the media tell you what to believe, watch that documentary I posted earlier then get back to me.
And yes I do have a very personal tie to this subject.
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
And all under the watch of the USA, they helped Croatia prepare for the offensive and they kept a watchful eye as it happened..
And...?
'We' are actively 'helping' the rebels in Libya. Should the rebels commit crimes whilst taking cities/towns loyal to Gaddafi, is that OK because the population may be loyal to a dictator? No.
What else has been done 'under the watch of the USA'? Hmmm......
You mean to say that all those people deserved to die just because they were Serbs?
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What else has been done 'under the watch of the USA'? Hmmm......
nice on Rita...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
And all under the watch of the USA, they helped Croatia prepare for the offensive and they kept a watchful eye as it happened..
And...?
'We' are actively 'helping' the rebels in Libya. Should the rebels commit crimes whilst taking cities/towns loyal to Gaddafi, is that OK because the population may be loyal to a dictator? No.
What else has been done 'under the watch of the USA'? Hmmm......
And....point being that USA is then guilty of genocide am I right?
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
And....point being that USA is then guilty of genocide am I right?
You raise a valid point and this was also raised amongst a number of groups as to why no US official was even implicated in the judgement (under the same 'rules' as others). A line of thought is saying they should have been.
You disgust me, stop talking about what you have no idea about in effect pissing me off.
What did you want, us to sit there and watch our towns be taken over, houses occupied, churches burned to the ground, women get raped and beaten, men shot in the head?
Maybe one day if your country gets invaded you will understand why such a military operation is necessary to liberate your country and your people. I hope you don't have to experience it but until then shut the f*** up.
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
And....point being that USA is then guilty of genocide am I right?
You raise a valid point and this was also raised amongst a number of groups as to why no US official was even implicated in the judgement (under the same 'rules' as others). A line of thought is saying they should have been.
Have you watched that documentary on Youtube yet???
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
You disgust me, stop talking about what you have no idea about in effect pissing me off.
What did you want, us to sit there and watch our towns be taken over, houses occupied, churches burned to the ground, women get raped and beaten, men shot in the head?
Maybe one day if your country gets invaded you will understand why such a military operation is necessary to liberate your country and your people. I hope you don't have to experience it but until then shut the f*** up.
i dont like the propaganda from any side,,i dont have problem with croatians or serbs...
if u open a thread you will have answers and others opinions,..you dont respect others opinions different than yours..thats the problem. and you can find in internet about my country wars and how many times others attack us....and the man that will tell me to shut the fuck up isnt born yet...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
And....point being that USA is then guilty of genocide am I right?
You raise a valid point and this was also raised amongst a number of groups as to why no US official was even implicated in the judgement (under the same 'rules' as others). A line of thought is saying they should have been.
Have you watched that documentary on Youtube yet???
As soon as I saw it was a Sedlar film, I didn't - I've seen 'in four rows'. Unfortunately, his films are propaganda (and are well known as such), which was well favoured by Tudman (who, by the way, if he were still alive, would have been tried with the others). Really, not a way to 'educate' yourself as to the conflict in former Yugoslavia, as much as you may wish to think so.
I am not going to sit back and let my country and my people be dragged through the mud.
I cannot believe the Hague and many others consider what happened to be a 'civil war'.
Hang on, we declared independence, the UN, USA, Germany, Australia and other nations recognized Croatia as an independent country, soon after the Serbs attacked us, so how is this a civil war?
For General Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markac to be made out to be just as guilty as Milosevic, Karadzic, Mladic is an absolute sick joke. Did Gotovina and Markac order mass executions and rapes?
The whole of Croatia see them as heroes, my mum shed tears when the sentences were handed out and so did many others around the world. I attended a rally in the city on Sunday night and there are more being organised around the world.
I am not going to sit back and let my country and my people be dragged through the mud.
No one is dragging your country or your people through the mud. Just holding a couple of people accountable for their crimes. Their actions have been judged by a court.
Not Guilty!
All Croats are protesting, I guess we are all supporting criminals according to all you guys.
Ex President Mesic sold Gotovina to the Hague so Croatia can be granted entry into the EU.
Mesic is married to a Serb, his father was a Partizan who murdered Croats.
Carla Del Ponte's husband is Serb, I wonder why she is so hot on the Croats case :roll:
Both wolves in sheeps clothing....
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
Croats living in serbia were genocided
Serbians living in Croatia the same thing
very wrong on all sides
Mothers are mothers
fathers are fathers
son and daughters are sons and daughters
where ever they come from everyone is the same. WE JUST PUT STUPID FUCKING LABELS ON EACH OTHER
What genocide did we commit?!!!! :x
Defending our country which was being invaded? :x
According to your interpretation any country that defends itself is committing genocide. :roll:
not really.
i know very little about the Croatian/serbian conflict so i won't go into that, but by what you are saying the Taliban are technically "only defending their country" which was invaded by the coalition, so does it make it right for them to kidnap u.n workers or private contractors driving trucks full of supplies and decapitate them??
no. i don't know what these two did that the news story is talking about, but if they ordered these type of acts then yes, they should serve jail time, like the ones from the other side who as you say "raped and murder and planted land mines" to kill innocent parties should also be put to trial and serve jail time.
but yeah, that's all i got to say as in know none of the history of this particular war.
Croats living in serbia were genocided
Serbians living in Croatia the same thing
very wrong on all sides
Mothers are mothers
fathers are fathers
son and daughters are sons and daughters
where ever they come from everyone is the same. WE JUST PUT STUPID FUCKING LABELS ON EACH OTHER
What genocide did we commit?!!!! :x
Defending our country which was being invaded? :x
According to your interpretation any country that defends itself is committing genocide. :roll:
not really.
i know very little about the Croatian/serbian conflict so i won't go into that, but by what you are saying the Taliban are technically "only defending their country" which was invaded by the coalition, so does it make it right for them to kidnap u.n workers or private contractors driving trucks full of supplies and decapitate them??
no. i don't know what these two did that the news story is talking about, but if they ordered these type of acts then yes, they should serve jail time, like the ones from the other side who as you say "raped and murder and planted land mines" to kill innocent parties should also be put to trial and serve jail time.
but yeah, that's all i got to say as in know none of the history of this particular war.
The Taliban and Croats you cannot compare.
We were living in peace when we declared our independence, the Taliban do horrible things to their own people thus leaving the world with no other choice other than to step in.
The power hungry Serbs decided to invade, we took military action to drive them back and for that we are now guilty in the Hagues eyes.
Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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I understand where you are coming from but not many Cypriots are as sentimental as you these days and the truth is that things have changed after the 2003-2004 events.
Serbians living in Croatia the same thing
very wrong on all sides
Mothers are mothers
fathers are fathers
son and daughters are sons and daughters
where ever they come from everyone is the same. WE JUST PUT STUPID FUCKING LABELS ON EACH OTHER
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
What genocide did we commit?!!!! :x
Defending our country which was being invaded? :x
According to your interpretation any country that defends itself is committing genocide. :roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATrKdsnc ... ture=share
Watch all 6 parts, A to F then get back to me once you have learned a bit before labeling my people guilty of genocide, the same goes for all you others that are uneducated on what happened, don't let those idiots at the Hague tell you what to believe. :roll:
Όχι βρε Δημήτρη ....probably a misunderstanding but I am from Cyprus & speak from personal experience!
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The pope has audiences with lots of 'heads of states' and others. Peres... Netanyahu... Also looking at the history of the Vatican (closest to us WWII), it's VERY murky (remember 'ratlines, Pavelic'?). An audience with the Pope really doesn't mean anything.
Look, it would seem you have a very personal 'tie' to this subject. But one needs to be a bit more objective... a crime is a crime - whoever commits it. Once needs to be held accountable.
I don't think the Pope would want to meet a criminal.
Could you please tell me what crime Gotovina committed?
Defending his homeland from forces that invaded, raped and murdered many innocent Croatian civilians?
And all under the watch of the USA, they helped Croatia prepare for the offensive and they kept a watchful eye as it happened.
Please do not let the media tell you what to believe, watch that documentary I posted earlier then get back to me.
And yes I do have a very personal tie to this subject.
You mean to say that all those people deserved to die just because they were Serbs?
Well, I think you need to inform yourself a bit more about the Vatican and the popes.
And...?
'We' are actively 'helping' the rebels in Libya. Should the rebels commit crimes whilst taking cities/towns loyal to Gaddafi, is that OK because the population may be loyal to a dictator? No.
What else has been done 'under the watch of the USA'? Hmmm......
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
They invaded, we fought back, war has casualties believe it or not....
And....point being that USA is then guilty of genocide am I right?
pope pius xii said or did virtually nothing during the holocaust.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... /pius.html
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Why am I not surprised.....
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
You raise a valid point and this was also raised amongst a number of groups as to why no US official was even implicated in the judgement (under the same 'rules' as others). A line of thought is saying they should have been.
Not just 'not intervening'... rather actively protecting and aiding mass murderers such as Pavelic and many others.
You disgust me, stop talking about what you have no idea about in effect pissing me off.
What did you want, us to sit there and watch our towns be taken over, houses occupied, churches burned to the ground, women get raped and beaten, men shot in the head?
Maybe one day if your country gets invaded you will understand why such a military operation is necessary to liberate your country and your people. I hope you don't have to experience it but until then shut the f*** up.
Have you watched that documentary on Youtube yet???
if u open a thread you will have answers and others opinions,..you dont respect others opinions different than yours..thats the problem. and you can find in internet about my country wars and how many times others attack us....and the man that will tell me to shut the fuck up isnt born yet...
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
As soon as I saw it was a Sedlar film, I didn't - I've seen 'in four rows'. Unfortunately, his films are propaganda (and are well known as such), which was well favoured by Tudman (who, by the way, if he were still alive, would have been tried with the others). Really, not a way to 'educate' yourself as to the conflict in former Yugoslavia, as much as you may wish to think so.
I cannot believe the Hague and many others consider what happened to be a 'civil war'.
Hang on, we declared independence, the UN, USA, Germany, Australia and other nations recognized Croatia as an independent country, soon after the Serbs attacked us, so how is this a civil war?
For General Ante Gotovina and Mladen Markac to be made out to be just as guilty as Milosevic, Karadzic, Mladic is an absolute sick joke. Did Gotovina and Markac order mass executions and rapes?
The whole of Croatia see them as heroes, my mum shed tears when the sentences were handed out and so did many others around the world. I attended a rally in the city on Sunday night and there are more being organised around the world.
http://www.freecroatiangenerals.com/
Read the pdf document....
P.S how could you even consider Tudman to be guilty of any crimes?
In the same way as the other two are.
All Croats are protesting, I guess we are all supporting criminals according to all you guys.
Ex President Mesic sold Gotovina to the Hague so Croatia can be granted entry into the EU.
Mesic is married to a Serb, his father was a Partizan who murdered Croats.
Carla Del Ponte's husband is Serb, I wonder why she is so hot on the Croats case :roll:
Both wolves in sheeps clothing....
not really.
i know very little about the Croatian/serbian conflict so i won't go into that, but by what you are saying the Taliban are technically "only defending their country" which was invaded by the coalition, so does it make it right for them to kidnap u.n workers or private contractors driving trucks full of supplies and decapitate them??
no. i don't know what these two did that the news story is talking about, but if they ordered these type of acts then yes, they should serve jail time, like the ones from the other side who as you say "raped and murder and planted land mines" to kill innocent parties should also be put to trial and serve jail time.
but yeah, that's all i got to say as in know none of the history of this particular war.
Nor your country or your people are being dragged through the mud.
What we are saying here is that it has to be acknowledged that people from the other side suffered too.
The Taliban and Croats you cannot compare.
We were living in peace when we declared our independence, the Taliban do horrible things to their own people thus leaving the world with no other choice other than to step in.
The power hungry Serbs decided to invade, we took military action to drive them back and for that we are now guilty in the Hagues eyes.