Any one here about the "Leap Of Faith" Guy That is going to save the world by jumping off some Mountain in 2012.
Yeah he's taking donations and every thing First of all he picked a Mountain on Federal land (I'm pretty sure). Plus he advertised that he's going to jump. Does he realy think that the police will let him any where near that mountain on that date? :? His family would have a major lawsuit
“Acceptance is not submission; it is acknowledgement of the facts of a situation. Then deciding what you're going to do about it.” ~ Kathleen Casey Theisen
I could not have said it better myself.
Basically, "dealing with" situations, rather than choosing denial.
“Acceptance is not submission; it is acknowledgement of the facts of a situation. Then deciding what you're going to do about it.” ~ Kathleen Casey Theisen
I could not have said it better myself.
Basically, "dealing with" situations, rather than choosing denial.
:wave: Yes...like I said before in another thread...I see this world that is a spectrum of acceptance to denial, not just "right or wrong"/"good or bad". Where you are on the scale, and only you can really know where you are, determines you how open you are to what you spiritually need. Once I was open...everything else fell into place.
Any one here about the "Leap Of Faith" Guy That is going to save the world by jumping off some Mountain in 2012.
Yeah he's taking donations and every thing First of all he picked a Mountain on Federal land (I'm pretty sure). Plus he advertised that he's going to jump. Does he realy think that the police will let him any where near that mountain on that date? :? His family would have a major lawsuit
I did not hear about this man... Sounds like he's planning to get his 15 minutes doing something that will not help anyone really, not even himself...especially if he dies. "Just a paragraph in the newspaper."
Tree of Life - Sacred Geometry a really cool series of 43 articles in a subsection of this really neat site by Stephen M. Phillips . I dunno. cool-i-o.
Have fun.
Knock yourselves out.
This.....almost :ugeek:
Is this what the movie you were talking about with the same name, is about?
Mayan tablet does not predict end of the world in 2012, says expert
A reference to 2012 on a Mayan tablet denotes a transition to a new era, not the apocalypse, according to Sven Gronemeyer
Guardian.co.uk, Thursday 1 December 2011
The end is not quite nigh. At least that is the conclusion of a German expert who says his decoding of a Mayan tablet with a reference to a 2012 date denotes a transition to a new era and not a possible end of the world as others have read it.
The interpretation of the hieroglyphs by Sven Gronemeyer of La Trobe University in Australia was presented for the first time on Wednesday at the archaeological site of Palenque in southern Mexico.
His comments came less than a week after Mexico's archaeology institute acknowledged there was a second reference to the 2012 date in Mayan inscriptions, touching off another round of talk about whether it predicts the end of the world.
Gronemeyer has been studying the stone tablet, which was found years ago at the archaeological site of Tortuguero in Mexico's Gulf coast state of Tabasco.
He said the inscription described the return of the mysterious Mayan god Bolon Yokte at the end of a 13th period of 400 years, known as Baktuns, on the equivalent of 21 December 2012. Mayans considered 13 a sacred number. There is nothing apocalyptic in the date, he said.
The text was carved about 1,300 years ago. The stone has cracked, which has made the end of the passage almost illegible.
Gronemeyer said the inscription referred to the end of a cycle of 5,125 years since the beginning of the Mayan Long Count calendar in 3113 BC.
The fragment was a prophecy of the then ruler Bahlam Ajaw, who wanted to plan the passage of the god, Gronemeyer said.
"For the elite of Tortuguero, it was clear they had to prepare the land for the return of the god and for Bahlam Ajaw to be the host of this initiation," he said.
Bolon Yokte, the god of creation and war, was to prevail that day in a sanctuary of Tortuguero.
"The date acquired a symbolic value because it is seen as a reflection of the day of creation," Gronemeyer said. "It is the passage of a god and not necessarily a great leap for humanity."
Last week, Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology said a second inscription mentioning the 2012 date was on the carved or moulded face of a brick found at the Comalcalco ruin, near the Tortuguero site. It is being kept at the institute and is not on display.
Many experts doubt the second inscription is a definite reference to the date cited as the possible end of the world, saying there is no future tense marking like there is in the Tortuguero tablet.
The institute has tried to dispel talk of a 2012 apocalypse, the subject of numerous postings and stories on the internet. Its latest step was to arrange a special round table of Mayan experts this week at Palenque, which is where Gronemeyer made his comments.
“The positive thinker sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible.”
I feel it will be positive.
Great quote, pandora. :thumbup:
Thanks ShimmyMommy
I think it will be as well...
perhaps a new perception, a new ability will be born to the human race
to insure our longevity and preserve our faith in each other
Hopefully this Bolon Yokte dude is gonna come back and sort a lot of shit out. I can't see anyone else about to do it any time soon, so I'm feeling a slight surge of optimism, having just read Byrnzie's post
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Send my credentials to the house of detention
I think it will be as well...
perhaps a new perception, a new ability will be born to the human race
to insure our longevity and preserve our faith in each other
a kinder gentler world
You are very welcome, pandora. I agree that it will be a change in perception. It's amazing how a different perspective can make everything better.
Hopefully this Bolon Yokte dude is gonna come back and sort a lot of shit out. I can't see anyone else about to do it any time soon, so I'm feeling a slight surge of optimism, having just read Byrnzie's post
Maybe it's supposed to be recreated within each of us, in small ways, with a simple act of kindness paid forward. That's my opinion, of course.
Mayan tablet does not predict end of the world in 2012, says expert
Ya know, I've heard various opinions that there will be a shift in consciousness soon, but this is the first article that actually dispels the Mayan Prophesy saying that the world will end. Good stuff!
Hopefully this Bolon Yokte dude is gonna come back and sort a lot of shit out. I can't see anyone else about to do it any time soon, so I'm feeling a slight surge of optimism, having just read Byrnzie's post
Maybe it's supposed to be recreated within each of us, in small ways, with a simple act of kindness paid forward. That's my opinion, of course.
Yeah, I've been trying that - and it doesn't seem to be working too well. I think I'm gonna go with this Bolon Yokte character - he might have a bit more power
Cancel my subscription to the Ressurection
Send my credentials to the house of detention
Hopefully this Bolon Yokte dude is gonna come back and sort a lot of shit out. I can't see anyone else about to do it any time soon, so I'm feeling a slight surge of optimism, having just read Byrnzie's post
Maybe it's supposed to be recreated within each of us, in small ways, with a simple act of kindness paid forward. That's my opinion, of course.
Yeah, I've been trying that - and it doesn't seem to be working too well. I think I'm gonna go with this Bolon Yokte character - he might have a bit more power
Sure, one should always do what works for best for them.
Sure, one should always do what works for best for them.
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Hey... I'm glad this thread popped up when I was logged on. I was thinking about things... you know, spiritually and religion as stuff and thought...
Maybe our spiritual evolution occurs when we set God Free and the religions that plant their flags in Him. We can no longer hold God responsible for our actions. There is no devine intervention... no predetermined destiny. That the reason a young mother recovers from a horrible trauma is because her will to live was too strong to allow her to leave her young child motherless... or the reason why the Dodgers beat the A's in 1988 was because they had a talented group of players who gelled as team at the end of the season. That we look inwards for those things that make us human. We are the ones who decide our fates. We must face our decisions and carry our sins.
That does not mean that we shirk our duties as part of a society of humans. We should consider ourselves as part of a greater society.
Example: I work as a voluenteer of 2 and 3 day walks for breast cancer research. In our little village, we lose our sense of self and look for the greater good of all. That means I work hard at my task, so the walkers don't have to do everything themselves. I give to all... and I am supported by all. My concern is not for my best interests it is for the other 4,000 people.... because i have 4,000 people looking out for my best interests. I love doing these events because it proves to me, how great we can be.
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Maybe... in the absense of God... we find Him within us.
Anyway... I'm glad to see this again... I hope I'm on track with the discussion.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Sure, one should always do what works for best for them.
...
Hey... I'm glad this thread popped up when I was logged on. I was thinking about things... you know, spiritually and religion as stuff and thought...
Maybe our spiritual evolution occurs when we set God Free and the religions that plant their flags in Him. We can no longer hold God responsible for our actions. There is no devine intervention... no predetermined destiny. That the reason a young mother recovers from a horrible trauma is because her will to live was too strong to allow her to leave her young child motherless... or the reason why the Dodgers beat the A's in 1988 was because they had a talented group of players who gelled as team at the end of the season. That we look inwards for those things that make us human. We are the ones who decide our fates. We must face our decisions and carry our sins.
That does not mean that we shirk our duties as part of a society of humans. We should consider ourselves as part of a greater society.
Example: I work as a voluenteer of 2 and 3 day walks for breast cancer research. In our little village, we lose our sense of self and look for the greater good of all. That means I work hard at my task, so the walkers don't have to do everything themselves. I give to all... and I am supported by all. My concern is not for my best interests it is for the other 4,000 people.... because i have 4,000 people looking out for my best interests. I love doing these events because it proves to me, how great we can be.
...
Maybe... in the absense of God... we find Him within us.
Anyway... I'm glad to see this again... I hope I'm on track with the discussion.
You are on track, we just started back up again.
I feel I am the only one that can accept the good and bad I have done. I spiritually grow or shrink with each choice. I am responsible for all my choices. When I realized that others go through that same process, I realized then that we were all universally connected, even though the choices are different. It's was what I needed to embrace the whole picture, the greater society, as you said. It was also the moment that I became aware that I am always in charge of the energy I wanted to bring into the whole picture. I am in charge of how I put my choices out there, how I choose to react (or not to react) the outcome of those choices. I did not find this through the confines of religion. I learned this through all of humanity, the good, the bad and everything in between. That's just what worked for me, what works for another is entirely up to them.
Great work on helping all those people. Understanding how you impact a community really is life-changing. It speaks volumes on how you want the world to be for you, and those that succeed you. :thumbup:
Maybe our spiritual evolution occurs when we set God Free and the religions that plant their flags in Him.
If you read deep enough in to most religions, you can find that they have a common core, or at least, that a large portion of their precepts match up. What do you mean when you say "set God Free"?
There is no devine intervention... no predetermined destiny
"Common sense" ( ) would dictate that even God is not above the immutable laws of the universe that "he" set in place. There is plenty of space within the fabric of the "real world" for miracles to happen, though.
Maybe... in the absense of God... we find Him within us.
According to "the ancient religion" (ie. The Mysteries) that is EXACTLY where we find god, although to be fair, their exact physical cosmo-conception iterates a God both WITHIN whom we lie, and whom lies within US. It is only "common sense", Commy.
If god made all of creation, and all of creation is finite, "common sense" would tell us that God would not "stand" OUTside of creation, but that all of creation would be within the body of god. That "god" would be a "fabric" that interweaves everything. In reading illuminist writings this is how "god" is described, and why (according to them) it can accurately be stated that god is both within you and without you.
I may have taken some artistic liberty in recounting that cosmology, but if you want concrete textual references to that concept, i can provide them.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Hey... I'm glad this thread popped up when I was logged on. I was thinking about things... you know, spiritually and religion as stuff and thought...
Maybe our spiritual evolution occurs when we set God Free and the religions that plant their flags in Him. We can no longer hold God responsible for our actions. There is no devine intervention... no predetermined destiny. That the reason a young mother recovers from a horrible trauma is because her will to live was too strong to allow her to leave her young child motherless... or the reason why the Dodgers beat the A's in 1988 was because they had a talented group of players who gelled as team at the end of the season. That we look inwards for those things that make us human. We are the ones who decide our fates. We must face our decisions and carry our sins.
That does not mean that we shirk our duties as part of a society of humans. We should consider ourselves as part of a greater society.
Example: I work as a voluenteer of 2 and 3 day walks for breast cancer research. In our little village, we lose our sense of self and look for the greater good of all. That means I work hard at my task, so the walkers don't have to do everything themselves. I give to all... and I am supported by all. My concern is not for my best interests it is for the other 4,000 people.... because i have 4,000 people looking out for my best interests. I love doing these events because it proves to me, how great we can be.
...
Maybe... in the absense of God... we find Him within us.
Anyway... I'm glad to see this again... I hope I'm on track with the discussion.
Awesome post, Cosmo. I'm convinced that in taking care of others, or looking externally for spirituality rather than internally, is where you find it. We're all connected. Have you seen "I Am"?
I feel I am the only one that can accept the good and bad I have done. I spiritually grow or shrink with each choice. I am responsible for all my choices. When I realized that others go through that same process, I realized then that we were all universally connected, even though the choices are different. It's was what I needed to embrace the whole picture, the greater society, as you said. It was also the moment that I became aware that I am always in charge of the energy I wanted to bring into the whole picture. I am in charge of how I put my choices out there, how I choose to react (or not to react) the outcome of those choices. I did not find this through the confines of religion. I learned this through all of humanity, the good, the bad and everything in between. That's just what worked for me, what works for another is entirely up to them.
Great work on helping all those people. Understanding how you impact a community really is life-changing. It speaks volumes on how you want the world to be for you, and those that succeed you. :thumbup:
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Sounds like we are on the same page. I feel that religions segregate people, instead of integrate us as one species of animal in the natural world. That is what I mean by 'Setting God Free'... release Him of the bonds of religion... to choose ALL of us, instead of some of us. It doesn't mean foresake God... just let Him be.
And i agree with the whole responsible and accountable for my life... including all of my wrong doings. I do not wish to burden Jesus with my bad choices... I like Him too much to do that to Him. I'm certainly not a 'Christian', but, I do love His teachings. That whole zombie thing... I don't know. Sounds kinda creepy. To me... Jesus' lessons are what make Him immortal. I may not trust the Bible, but I like the parts that include Jesus' teachings.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
I just wanted to also add that I don' think the world is coming to an end literally. I think there's going to be a paradigm shift that will change our consciousness in a way we can never have fathomed.
Thats a possibility, also lines up well with the New World Order, one eye, one consciousness. The only way out? We need to wake up from our sleep.
Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, does anyone remember when the Black monolith first appears and the apes go nuts? they can't understand what it is, where it came from. Soon after one of the apes sits and it seems to be wondering, at this point he eventually discovers the use of weapons, in this case a bone which he uses (as a club) to over power and control another group. This all started with the Black Monolith, something they saw and could not comprehend. What was our Black Monolith?
At what point did we decide that we would not move out of Africa like the Neanderthals did, but stay and evolve. One group stays behind and turns into what eventually is modern man and the other becomes extinct. What was our trigger?
I'm sure it was very tempting to go wandering off, but we stayed in Africa until we were ready to branch off and expand.
and of course the ending, which more of less goes into who/what we are..If anyone has not seen the movie and don't want it spoiled for them, rather not watch the vid below,
I feel I am the only one that can accept the good and bad I have done. I spiritually grow or shrink with each choice. I am responsible for all my choices. When I realized that others go through that same process, I realized then that we were all universally connected, even though the choices are different. It's was what I needed to embrace the whole picture, the greater society, as you said. It was also the moment that I became aware that I am always in charge of the energy I wanted to bring into the whole picture. I am in charge of how I put my choices out there, how I choose to react (or not to react) the outcome of those choices. I did not find this through the confines of religion. I learned this through all of humanity, the good, the bad and everything in between. That's just what worked for me, what works for another is entirely up to them.
Great work on helping all those people. Understanding how you impact a community really is life-changing. It speaks volumes on how you want the world to be for you, and those that succeed you. :thumbup:
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Sounds like we are on the same page. I feel that religions segregate people, instead of integrate us as one species of animal in the natural world. That is what I mean by 'Setting God Free'... release Him of the bonds of religion... to choose ALL of us, instead of some of us. It doesn't mean foresake God... just let Him be.
And i agree with the whole responsible and accountable for my life... including all of my wrong doings. I do not wish to burden Jesus with my bad choices... I like Him too much to do that to Him. I'm certainly not a 'Christian', but, I do love His teachings. That whole zombie thing... I don't know. Sounds kinda creepy. To me... Jesus' lessons are what make Him immortal. I may not trust the Bible, but I like the parts that include Jesus' teachings.
Yes, I think we are on the same page.
"Just let Him Be"... :think: :thumbup:
I must say that my definition of God has changed over the years. God has now become the all-embracing Universe, instead of a singular entity I must please with my actions. Why? Because they both let us be. They let us decide what we want to learn from the trials and tribulations of this life. They let us decide what perception we want have about the lives we have. The let us learn what way works for us to find our spirituality.
It's not that I dislike the message that religion teaches when it comes to empathy, compassion and love. It's the rigidity and exclusivity of religion that I dislike. It divides humanity on the premise of which Religion is the "correct" way to spirituality. Which, in my opinion, is the opposite of spirituality. Finding your spiritual way is as individual as your fingerprint. It's in all those individual paths do each of us find a connection to the Spiritual. Kind of like a puzzle. When all the all the pieces are there, we can see the whole picture. But then, again, that is just my opinion based on my experiences.
Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, does anyone remember when the Black monolith first appears and the apes go nuts? they can't understand what it is, where it came from. Soon after one of the apes sits and it seems to be wondering, at this point he eventually discovers the use of weapons, in this case a bone which he uses (as a club) to over power and control another group. This all started with the Black Monolith, something they saw and could not comprehend. What was our Black Monolith?
At what point did we decide that we would not move out of Africa like the Neanderthals did, but stay and evolve. One group stays behind and turns into what eventually is modern man and the other becomes extinct. What was our trigger?
I'm sure it was very tempting to go wandering off, but we stayed in Africa until we were ready to branch off and expand.
and of course the ending, which more of less goes into who/what we are..If anyone has not seen the movie and don't want it spoiled for them, rather not watch the vid below,
It's not that I dislike the message that religion teaches when it comes to empathy, compassion and love. It's the rigidity and exclusivity of religion that I dislike. It divides humanity on the premise of which Religion is the "correct" way to spirituality. Which, in my opinion, is the opposite of spirituality. Finding your spiritual way is as individual as your fingerprint. It's in all those individual paths do each of us find a connection to the Spiritual. Kind of like a puzzle. When all the all the pieces are there, we can see the whole picture. But then, again, that is just my opinion based on my experiences.
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I think religions carry a great message... problems pop up when that message is projected upon others. I think faith and hope are beautiful human characteristics until faith is transformed into conflict.
My take, if you want to belive in burning bushes, talking snakes or spaceships and volcanoes... GREAT!!! Just don't try to nail your salvation to the souls of others.
And yes... everyone weaves their way through this life... in search of answers. Answers that may not even exist. It's the journey, where we discover.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
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Yeah he's taking donations and every thing
Basically, "dealing with" situations, rather than choosing denial.
:wave: Yes...like I said before in another thread...I see this world that is a spectrum of acceptance to denial, not just "right or wrong"/"good or bad". Where you are on the scale, and only you can really know where you are, determines you how open you are to what you spiritually need. Once I was open...everything else fell into place.
I did not hear about this man...
Seen it yet?
*looks at watch impatiently and taps foot*
*only to realize, moments later, I have no watch on*
Watch? Whaaaa, just look at the sun.
The sun's taking a recess...it's cloudy in my area right now...
and don't you mean, "WAAAAAHHHHH!"
noooo I don't mean that... :P
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=whaaaa
u funny shimmy,
Mayan tablet does not predict end of the world in 2012, says expert
A reference to 2012 on a Mayan tablet denotes a transition to a new era, not the apocalypse, according to Sven Gronemeyer
Guardian.co.uk, Thursday 1 December 2011
The end is not quite nigh. At least that is the conclusion of a German expert who says his decoding of a Mayan tablet with a reference to a 2012 date denotes a transition to a new era and not a possible end of the world as others have read it.
The interpretation of the hieroglyphs by Sven Gronemeyer of La Trobe University in Australia was presented for the first time on Wednesday at the archaeological site of Palenque in southern Mexico.
His comments came less than a week after Mexico's archaeology institute acknowledged there was a second reference to the 2012 date in Mayan inscriptions, touching off another round of talk about whether it predicts the end of the world.
Gronemeyer has been studying the stone tablet, which was found years ago at the archaeological site of Tortuguero in Mexico's Gulf coast state of Tabasco.
He said the inscription described the return of the mysterious Mayan god Bolon Yokte at the end of a 13th period of 400 years, known as Baktuns, on the equivalent of 21 December 2012. Mayans considered 13 a sacred number. There is nothing apocalyptic in the date, he said.
The text was carved about 1,300 years ago. The stone has cracked, which has made the end of the passage almost illegible.
Gronemeyer said the inscription referred to the end of a cycle of 5,125 years since the beginning of the Mayan Long Count calendar in 3113 BC.
The fragment was a prophecy of the then ruler Bahlam Ajaw, who wanted to plan the passage of the god, Gronemeyer said.
"For the elite of Tortuguero, it was clear they had to prepare the land for the return of the god and for Bahlam Ajaw to be the host of this initiation," he said.
Bolon Yokte, the god of creation and war, was to prevail that day in a sanctuary of Tortuguero.
"The date acquired a symbolic value because it is seen as a reflection of the day of creation," Gronemeyer said. "It is the passage of a god and not necessarily a great leap for humanity."
Last week, Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology said a second inscription mentioning the 2012 date was on the carved or moulded face of a brick found at the Comalcalco ruin, near the Tortuguero site. It is being kept at the institute and is not on display.
Many experts doubt the second inscription is a definite reference to the date cited as the possible end of the world, saying there is no future tense marking like there is in the Tortuguero tablet.
The institute has tried to dispel talk of a 2012 apocalypse, the subject of numerous postings and stories on the internet. Its latest step was to arrange a special round table of Mayan experts this week at Palenque, which is where Gronemeyer made his comments.
That's how I see it...as a huge change/shift. It'll be interesting to see how it changes.
“The positive thinker sees the invisible, feels the intangible, and achieves the impossible.”
I feel it will be positive.
Great quote, pandora. :thumbup:
I think it will be as well...
perhaps a new perception, a new ability will be born to the human race
to insure our longevity and preserve our faith in each other
a kinder gentler world
Send my credentials to the house of detention
You are very welcome, pandora. I agree that it will be a change in perception. It's amazing how a different perspective can make everything better.
Maybe it's supposed to be recreated within each of us, in small ways, with a simple act of kindness paid forward. That's my opinion, of course.
I couldn't agree more :thumbup:
Ya know, I've heard various opinions that there will be a shift in consciousness soon, but this is the first article that actually dispels the Mayan Prophesy saying that the world will end. Good stuff!
Yeah, I've been trying that - and it doesn't seem to be working too well. I think I'm gonna go with this Bolon Yokte character - he might have a bit more power
Send my credentials to the house of detention
Sure, one should always do what works for best for them.
Hey... I'm glad this thread popped up when I was logged on. I was thinking about things... you know, spiritually and religion as stuff and thought...
Maybe our spiritual evolution occurs when we set God Free and the religions that plant their flags in Him. We can no longer hold God responsible for our actions. There is no devine intervention... no predetermined destiny. That the reason a young mother recovers from a horrible trauma is because her will to live was too strong to allow her to leave her young child motherless... or the reason why the Dodgers beat the A's in 1988 was because they had a talented group of players who gelled as team at the end of the season. That we look inwards for those things that make us human. We are the ones who decide our fates. We must face our decisions and carry our sins.
That does not mean that we shirk our duties as part of a society of humans. We should consider ourselves as part of a greater society.
Example: I work as a voluenteer of 2 and 3 day walks for breast cancer research. In our little village, we lose our sense of self and look for the greater good of all. That means I work hard at my task, so the walkers don't have to do everything themselves. I give to all... and I am supported by all. My concern is not for my best interests it is for the other 4,000 people.... because i have 4,000 people looking out for my best interests. I love doing these events because it proves to me, how great we can be.
...
Maybe... in the absense of God... we find Him within us.
Anyway... I'm glad to see this again... I hope I'm on track with the discussion.
Hail, Hail!!!
You are on track, we just started back up again.
I feel I am the only one that can accept the good and bad I have done. I spiritually grow or shrink with each choice. I am responsible for all my choices. When I realized that others go through that same process, I realized then that we were all universally connected, even though the choices are different. It's was what I needed to embrace the whole picture, the greater society, as you said. It was also the moment that I became aware that I am always in charge of the energy I wanted to bring into the whole picture. I am in charge of how I put my choices out there, how I choose to react (or not to react) the outcome of those choices. I did not find this through the confines of religion. I learned this through all of humanity, the good, the bad and everything in between. That's just what worked for me, what works for another is entirely up to them.
Great work on helping all those people. Understanding how you impact a community really is life-changing. It speaks volumes on how you want the world to be for you, and those that succeed you. :thumbup:
"Common sense" (
According to "the ancient religion" (ie. The Mysteries) that is EXACTLY where we find god, although to be fair, their exact physical cosmo-conception iterates a God both WITHIN whom we lie, and whom lies within US. It is only "common sense", Commy.
If god made all of creation, and all of creation is finite, "common sense" would tell us that God would not "stand" OUTside of creation, but that all of creation would be within the body of god. That "god" would be a "fabric" that interweaves everything. In reading illuminist writings this is how "god" is described, and why (according to them) it can accurately be stated that god is both within you and without you.
I may have taken some artistic liberty in recounting that cosmology, but if you want concrete textual references to that concept, i can provide them.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Awesome post, Cosmo. I'm convinced that in taking care of others, or looking externally for spirituality rather than internally, is where you find it. We're all connected. Have you seen "I Am"?
Sounds like we are on the same page. I feel that religions segregate people, instead of integrate us as one species of animal in the natural world. That is what I mean by 'Setting God Free'... release Him of the bonds of religion... to choose ALL of us, instead of some of us. It doesn't mean foresake God... just let Him be.
And i agree with the whole responsible and accountable for my life... including all of my wrong doings. I do not wish to burden Jesus with my bad choices... I like Him too much to do that to Him. I'm certainly not a 'Christian', but, I do love His teachings. That whole zombie thing... I don't know. Sounds kinda creepy. To me... Jesus' lessons are what make Him immortal. I may not trust the Bible, but I like the parts that include Jesus' teachings.
Hail, Hail!!!
Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey, does anyone remember when the Black monolith first appears and the apes go nuts? they can't understand what it is, where it came from. Soon after one of the apes sits and it seems to be wondering, at this point he eventually discovers the use of weapons, in this case a bone which he uses (as a club) to over power and control another group. This all started with the Black Monolith, something they saw and could not comprehend. What was our Black Monolith?
At what point did we decide that we would not move out of Africa like the Neanderthals did, but stay and evolve. One group stays behind and turns into what eventually is modern man and the other becomes extinct. What was our trigger?
I'm sure it was very tempting to go wandering off, but we stayed in Africa until we were ready to branch off and expand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y15NnGZIBuM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd3-1tcO ... re=related
and of course the ending, which more of less goes into who/what we are..If anyone has not seen the movie and don't want it spoiled for them, rather not watch the vid below,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0Hk ... re=related
What a great movie,
Yes, I think we are on the same page.
"Just let Him Be"... :think: :thumbup:
I must say that my definition of God has changed over the years. God has now become the all-embracing Universe, instead of a singular entity I must please with my actions. Why? Because they both let us be. They let us decide what we want to learn from the trials and tribulations of this life. They let us decide what perception we want have about the lives we have. The let us learn what way works for us to find our spirituality.
It's not that I dislike the message that religion teaches when it comes to empathy, compassion and love. It's the rigidity and exclusivity of religion that I dislike. It divides humanity on the premise of which Religion is the "correct" way to spirituality. Which, in my opinion, is the opposite of spirituality. Finding your spiritual way is as individual as your fingerprint. It's in all those individual paths do each of us find a connection to the Spiritual. Kind of like a puzzle. When all the all the pieces are there, we can see the whole picture. But then, again, that is just my opinion based on my experiences.
I think I have to watch that movie!
I think religions carry a great message... problems pop up when that message is projected upon others. I think faith and hope are beautiful human characteristics until faith is transformed into conflict.
My take, if you want to belive in burning bushes, talking snakes or spaceships and volcanoes... GREAT!!! Just don't try to nail your salvation to the souls of others.
And yes... everyone weaves their way through this life... in search of answers. Answers that may not even exist. It's the journey, where we discover.
Hail, Hail!!!