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Um, Are We About To Be In A Third War?

Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
edited March 2011 in A Moving Train
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... ed-nations

Seems that way
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    i hope so. that freak needs to get his head blown off.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    Our never-ending cycle of WAR continues, is there not some other way this country can avoid a third conflict? Aren't we spread thin enough already militarily?

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    CH156378 wrote:
    i hope so. that freak needs to get his head blown off.

    What then? Are we responsible for the side we take? And why now, why not in congo? What's next?
  • SomethingCreativeSomethingCreative Kazoo, MI Posts: 3,396
    there goes the neighborhood
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  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:
    i hope so. that freak needs to get his head blown off.

    What then? Are we responsible for the side we take? And why now, why not in congo? What's next?

    good points. thanks.
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    i guess this is why the war in vietnam, iraq, ect has hurt the US so much. when military action is needed to do the right thing we'll always be second guessed and people will always question our motives.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I don't know why the USA needs to play world-cop.
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    CH156378 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:
    i hope so. that freak needs to get his head blown off.

    What then? Are we responsible for the side we take? And why now, why not in congo? What's next?

    good points. thanks.

    And don't get me wrong, the guy is a lunatic and needs to go, I am just having a tough time with this.
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know why the USA needs to play world-cop.

    so we can have pearl jam message boards i guess?
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know why the USA needs to play world-cop.
    You mean the U.N.?


    Come on people, Iraq was a mistake, but it would just take minimal effort to get this asshole out of power and hand it back to the people. We don't need troops. The population themselves can do that.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know why the USA needs to play world-cop.
    You mean the U.N.?


    Come on people, Iraq was a mistake, but it would just take minimal effort to get this asshole out of power and hand it back to the people. We don't need troops. The population themselves can do that.

    No troops? Sounds like they are already talking about sending troops to train rebels. Sound familiar?
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know why the USA needs to play world-cop.
    You mean the U.N.?


    Come on people, Iraq was a mistake, but it would just take minimal effort to get this asshole out of power and hand it back to the people. We don't need troops. The population themselves can do that.

    No troops? Sounds like they are already talking about sending troops to train rebels. Sound familiar?
    I don't agree with sending troops, but if we keep them from bombing people with a no fly zone, I'm for it.

    If a few missiles cant do the trick, it's not worth it.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    I agree 100% with every word in this. What's next?

    http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama/2011/03/war.html
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,952
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    I don't agree with sending troops, but if we keep them from bombing people with a no fly zone, I'm for it.

    If a few missiles cant do the trick, it's not worth it.

    I agree that this guy needs to be gone and I also agree if we can help quickly and without spending a lot, it may make sense but I wish our President would explain this, how does it end? When does it end? Like I said, are we responsible for the rebels once this is over? There are a lot of questions.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    I agree 100% with every word in this. What's next?

    http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama/2011/03/war.html
    Is it ironic that while reading this thread and the link you provided, Hendrix's "Machine Gun" came on my iPod while in shuffle?

    I don't want any more wars, but this lunatic in Libya wants us to.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know why the USA needs to play world-cop.


    Only when it suits our intrests.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    This might actually be a war I can get behind, because the rebels are being slaughtered by this madman and the savages whose loyalty he has bought. Unlike in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Libyans want us there, from what I've seen.
  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    kenny olav wrote:
    This might actually be a war I can get behind, because the rebels are being slaughtered by this madman and the savages whose loyalty he has bought. Unlike in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Libyans want us there, from what I've seen.
    The Libyan rebels are happy about the no-fly zone.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/03 ... tml?hpt=T1
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    This is the best approach the U.S could have taken. This is a UN led implementation of a No-Fly Zone. I do not think, and I hope that I am right, that this will escalate into another Iraq or Afghanistan. Obama did the right thing by taking this to the UN and being a part of a plan instead of rushing into a situation without a solid game plan.
  • ONCE DEVIDEDONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    People the middle east are rising up to take out the dictators who rule them
    I say stand behind people who want freedom
    gaddafi needs a 7.62 between the eyes or a rope around his neck
    any other dictator as well
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    We should not be involved.

    If people actually want us to stop meddling in foreign affairs they need to vote

    RON PAUL 2012
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    unsung wrote:
    We should not be involved.

    If people actually want us to stop meddling in foreign affairs they need to vote

    RON PAUL 2012
    my heart is with the libyan people and i fear they may lose if no one helps... but i can't help but agree with this. how can no one be suspicious of this? i mean why did the U.S. not impose a no-fly zone when the people in gaza were being massacred before the weight of the might israeli army (only "mighty" thanks to our aid)? and where is the U.S. in bahrain, where their allies, the Saudis, have invaded and are massacring its people with the oppressive bahraini government? the U.S. has not uttered a word. i cannot help but be completely suspicious of any foreign intervention by western forces. i guess the egyptians and tunisians should be thankful they did not have any oil.

    And Ron Paul is the man.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    ONCE DEVIDED wrote:
    People the middle east are rising up to take out the dictators who rule them
    I say stand behind people who want freedom
    gaddafi needs a 7.62 between the eyes or a rope around his neck
    any other dictator as well
    What about Saudi Arabia?
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  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    CH156378 wrote:
    i hope so. that freak needs to get his head blown off.

    What then? Are we responsible for the side we take? And why now, why not in congo? What's next?

    The answer is obvious.
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    BinauralJam wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know why the USA needs to play world-cop.


    Only when it suits our intrests.


    it is the UN
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  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    keeponrockin wrote:
    What about Saudi Arabia?

    The U.N. looked for approval from the Arab League, and the Arab League was on board for Libya.
    What about Saudi Arabia ? Well, what about them ? No one is going to interfere with what they do. They own this fuckin' joint.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87b4a4a2wmY

    This seems typical but is it enough for the youth of the population who are looking towards a fruitful future ?
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    war ... political unrest ... business is good ...
  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    polaris_x wrote:
    war ... political unrest ... business is good ...

    yep!!
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    BinauralJam wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I don't know why the USA needs to play world-cop.


    Only when it suits our intrests.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,165
    I would only support this if the US doesn't have to hang around for the rebuilding. The military has proven they are quite capable of blowing shit up effectively ... it's the re-fixing part that they are not so good at.

    I just wonder how long the road will be if the UN approves of an attack. Will they focus on Bahrain next? Yeman? The Congo? Canada? How far does this extend?
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