we did it! Pearl Jam in Sweet 16 vs The Beatles!!!!! VOTE!!!

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  • RedMosquito22
    RedMosquito22 Posts: 8,158
    Grunge100 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    When it comes to rock music that isn't far off. They pretty much are the holy grail

    Oh come on.... The Beatles were lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. If the Beatles never existed, it would have been the Stones or someone else. They influenced a lot of musicians because they were the first main stream rock band.

    Listen to the early Rolling Stones and tell me exactly who they sounded like.
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  • Grunge100
    Grunge100 Posts: 178
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    Grunge100 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    When it comes to rock music that isn't far off. They pretty much are the holy grail

    Oh come on.... The Beatles were lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. If the Beatles never existed, it would have been the Stones or someone else. They influenced a lot of musicians because they were the first main stream rock band.

    Listen to the early Rolling Stones and tell me exactly who they sounded like.

    Agreed. Many Ice Hockey players tried to play like Howe during the 50's and 60's. Is Gordie the greatest Hockey player to grace the game (or the holy grail of hockey players)????

    A style, fad, movement, or genre has to begin somewhere, it does not mean that the creator of said style was, is, and will forever be the best.

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  • WeBelongTogether
    WeBelongTogether Posts: 340
    Grunge100 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    When it comes to rock music that isn't far off. They pretty much are the holy grail

    Oh come on.... The Beatles were lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. If the Beatles never existed, it would have been the Stones or someone else. They influenced a lot of musicians because they were the first main stream rock band.

    You have to be kidding me. How old are you? First of all, Elvis was around long before the Beatles - they weren't just "lucky" to be in the right place and the first "main stream rock band. The Beatles also evolved immensely in their style. John Lennon and Paul McCartney are, without question, two of the greatest song writers of all time. They are each in the RnR HoF as solo artists - for their years AFTER the Beatles. Two of the greatest song writers to ever live, and they happened to be in the same band. I am guessing you have never listened to Revolver or Sgt. Peppers to proclaim that they just happened to be "the first mainstream rock band." That really is laugh out loud hilarity.

    And by the way, obviously PJ is my favorite band. But you have to be kidding yourself if you think they were going to get more votes than the greatest rock band of all time on a mainstream website like espn.com.
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  • Given to...
    Given to... Wyoming Posts: 5,007
    The Eagles suck.
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Why does everyone shit on the early Beatles records? Some great great tunes (including one Eddie covers...)
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  • fox_mulderX
    fox_mulderX Posts: 1,134
    comparing the beatles to pearl jam is a little unfair. sorry pj, i voted for the beatles.
  • glb
    glb Posts: 356
    I enjoy PJ's music much more than the Beatles. Therefore, I voted for PJ! :mrgreen:
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  • fox_mulderX
    fox_mulderX Posts: 1,134
    Grunge100 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    When it comes to rock music that isn't far off. They pretty much are the holy grail

    Oh come on.... The Beatles were lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. If the Beatles never existed, it would have been the Stones or someone else. They influenced a lot of musicians because they were the first main stream rock band.

    although i think this is a troll, i still feel the need to respond.

    buddy holly, elvis, chuck berry.... all before the beatles. the reason why they influence a lot of musicians is because they were amazing at what they did. they understood music.
  • AtlantaJammer
    AtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    Newch91 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    They are the only band with 6 diamond albums, meaning sales of 10 million each: Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road, The Beatles 1962-1966, The Beatles 1967-1970, The White Album, The Beatles 1.

    The Beatles are the best-selling group of all time, estimated to have sold over one billion records worldwide. They have had more #1 singles and albums than any other musical group, and had the fastest selling single and of all time with "I Want To Hold Your Hand" and 1 respectively. They also spent the highest number of weeks at #1 in the album charts - 174 weeks in the UK and 132 weeks in the US.

    In the US, they had 20 #1 hits, 43 top-20 and 53 top-40 hits.

    On Rolling Stone's list of the 500 Greatest Albums of all time, The Beatles hold the #1 spot with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, as well as the #3 and 5 spots with Revolver and Rubber Soul.The White Album was listed as #10 and Abbey Road was 14. That's 3 albums in the top 5, 4 albums in the top 10 and 5 albums in the top 15.

    The most #1 albums in the US chart by a group is 19, by The Beatles. Their chart-topping tally is more than double the number of those held by Elvis Presley and The Rolling Stones, with 9. Their latest chart-topping album was aptly entitled 1 and was released in 2001 which sold 13.5 million copies around the world in its first month, making it the fastest-selling album.
    I just want to add one more thing:

    The week of April 4, 1964, The Beatles held the top 5 spots of the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart; no other band or artist has done that. The songs were, in order:

    1. Can't Buy Me Love
    2. Twist and Shout
    3. She Loves You
    4. I Want to Hold Your Hand
    5. Please Please Me

    Can I add something... those songs are dated as shit. Who the Hell is rocking to I wanna hold your hand... only gays and chicks I believe.... Also, you mentioned they were "one of the first" bands to write and perform their own music. SO???? What's the relevancy in that? If they hadn't started that trend you honestly think bands wouldn't be doing that today? I get it, you love The Beatles. And so do a fuuuuck load of people. But in reality, when's it comes to the music, maybe they were tooooo early in rock because they're music may have been GREAT back then, but its not nearly that good today. Maybe they are the best band ever, just not the best music.
  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    Newch91 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    They are the only band with 6 diamond albums, meaning sales of 10 million each: Sgt. Pepper, Abbey Road, The Beatles 1962-1966, The Beatles 1967-1970, The White Album, The Beatles 1.

    The Beatles are the best-selling group of all time, estimated to have sold over one billion records worldwide. They have had more #1 singles and albums than any other musical group, and had the fastest selling single and of all time with "I Want To Hold Your Hand" and 1 respectively. They also spent the highest number of weeks at #1 in the album charts - 174 weeks in the UK and 132 weeks in the US.

    In the US, they had 20 #1 hits, 43 top-20 and 53 top-40 hits.

    On Rolling Stone's list of the 500 Greatest Albums of all time, The Beatles hold the #1 spot with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, as well as the #3 and 5 spots with Revolver and Rubber Soul.The White Album was listed as #10 and Abbey Road was 14. That's 3 albums in the top 5, 4 albums in the top 10 and 5 albums in the top 15.

    The most #1 albums in the US chart by a group is 19, by The Beatles. Their chart-topping tally is more than double the number of those held by Elvis Presley and The Rolling Stones, with 9. Their latest chart-topping album was aptly entitled 1 and was released in 2001 which sold 13.5 million copies around the world in its first month, making it the fastest-selling album.
    I just want to add one more thing:

    The week of April 4, 1964, The Beatles held the top 5 spots of the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart; no other band or artist has done that. The songs were, in order:

    1. Can't Buy Me Love
    2. Twist and Shout
    3. She Loves You
    4. I Want to Hold Your Hand
    5. Please Please Me

    Can I add something... those songs are dated as shit. Who the Hell is rocking to I wanna hold your hand... only gays and chicks I believe.... Also, you mentioned they were "one of the first" bands to write and perform their own music. SO???? What's the relevancy in that? If they hadn't started that trend you honestly think bands wouldn't be doing that today? I get it, you love The Beatles. And so do a fuuuuck load of people. But in reality, when's it comes to the music, maybe they were tooooo early in rock because they're music may have been GREAT back then, but its not nearly that good today. Maybe they are the best band ever, just not the best music.

    like i said before, the scene was deprived of music back then. That's why they were able to have those five spots. The God's of music are more pleased with Pearl Jam than The Beatles, I just know it.
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  • PJ_Lukin
    PJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    As someone who was around the 60's and the 70's, I can not in good conscience vote against the Beatles. Love Pearl Jam, but this is the Beatles. They changed everything.

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  • AtlantaJammer
    AtlantaJammer Posts: 2,611
    Not to pick on Newch or anyone else that loves The Beatles but please explain to me this.... Let's say The Beatles came out today. And a mainstream song like I wanna hold your hand or Lucy in the Sky or Yellow Submarine came on your local "rock" station. What would the overwhelming majority think? Garbage!!!! Now, let's say someone like Zeppelin just came out and you heard Black Dog or MOST of their main singles came on? Mass hysteria guaranteed. You could put a Ton of other bands in that same category with Zeppelin in those regards. The Beatles are dated. Great musicians for sure. They're music just sucks. Just face the facts....
  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    Not to pick on Newch or anyone else that loves The Beatles but please explain to me this.... Let's say The Beatles came out today. And a mainstream song like I wanna hold your hand or Lucy in the Sky or Yellow Submarine came on your local "rock" station. What would the overwhelming majority think? Garbage!!!! Now, let's say someone like Zeppelin just came out and you heard Black Dog or MOST of their main singles came on? Mass hysteria guaranteed. You could put a Ton of other bands in that same category with Zeppelin in those regards. The Beatles are dated. Great musicians for sure. They're music just sucks. Just face the facts....

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  • Grunge100
    Grunge100 Posts: 178
    fox_mulderX wrote:
    Grunge100 wrote:
    RedMosquito22 wrote:
    When it comes to rock music that isn't far off. They pretty much are the holy grail

    Oh come on.... The Beatles were lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. If the Beatles never existed, it would have been the Stones or someone else. They influenced a lot of musicians because they were the first main stream rock band.

    although i think this is a troll, i still feel the need to respond.

    buddy holly, elvis, chuck berry.... all before the beatles. the reason why they influence a lot of musicians is because they were amazing at what they did. they understood music.

    Sorry dude I am not a troll. Please refrain from name calling----thanks....

    They understood music? Please explain???
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  • Owl
    Owl Posts: 1,062
    Just left my vote, but it looks quite hard... :|
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    Not to pick on Newch or anyone else that loves The Beatles but please explain to me this.... Let's say The Beatles came out today. And a mainstream song like I wanna hold your hand or Lucy in the Sky or Yellow Submarine came on your local "rock" station. What would the overwhelming majority think? Garbage!!!! Now, let's say someone like Zeppelin just came out and you heard Black Dog or MOST of their main singles came on? Mass hysteria guaranteed. You could put a Ton of other bands in that same category with Zeppelin in those regards. The Beatles are dated. Great musicians for sure. They're music just sucks. Just face the facts....
    Dylan would get shit on, wouldn't have a record contract today. I doubt Tom Waits would either.

    And Zeppelin would get their asses sued for their first two records (and I love Zeppelin).
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  • BLACK35
    BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,980
    Just voted, its at 69 Beatles, PJ 28
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  • CantKeepMeHere
    CantKeepMeHere Posts: 2,177
    wow getting SPANKED by the Beatles
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    PJ didn't deserve to beat jimi let alone do they deserve to beat the beatles... it doesn't show "how big PJ is"... it shows how obsessive/obnoxious their fans are :evil:

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  • PJ_Lukin
    PJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    keeponrockin wrote:
    AtlantaJammer wrote:
    Not to pick on Newch or anyone else that loves The Beatles but please explain to me this.... Let's say The Beatles came out today. And a mainstream song like I wanna hold your hand or Lucy in the Sky or Yellow Submarine came on your local "rock" station. What would the overwhelming majority think? Garbage!!!! Now, let's say someone like Zeppelin just came out and you heard Black Dog or MOST of their main singles came on? Mass hysteria guaranteed. You could put a Ton of other bands in that same category with Zeppelin in those regards. The Beatles are dated. Great musicians for sure. They're music just sucks. Just face the facts....
    Dylan would get shit on, wouldn't have a record contract today. I doubt Tom Waits would either.

    And Zeppelin would get their asses sued for their first two records (and I love Zeppelin).
    Neil Young ....Beach Boys.......The Band.......would fit that bill too. If you ask 100 musicians 99 of them will say the Beatles were an influence at some point in their lives. The Beatles are the Babe Ruth of Rock, there have been and will be better, but no one was even close when they were in their prime and no one had the influence they did and still do. In my opinion, a good portion of Ed's solo stuff is definitely influenced by the Beatles.
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