uhhh OK montreal?

Drop The Leash 10

Big Drop wrote:

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

IT'S FUCKING HOCKEY. SHIT HAPPENS! you really honestly think chara would do that intentionally? no! simple answer. i never thought i'd see the day where canadian hockey fans would cry about a hit.

Well, that's where you're wrong, because that's not part of the game. It's the players responsibility to make sure shit doesn't happen. I'm sure Pacioretty's parents are taking solace in knowing that their son is a vegetable because shit happens. Hope you never have a love one get clipped by a drunk driver. . . because shit happens.

i see where you're coming from. i completely get it. but hard plays are going to be made and players get injured. this sport is lethal if you truly think about it and yes players should use a little more caution. i can almost guarantee chara felt like shit after the hit. anyone would. it was just a shit luck play. nothing more.


and seriously, get that thing out of there or come up with something safer. it's a miracle shit like this doesn't happen more often.

Phantom Pain

Big Drop wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Using the term vegetable is a bit ridiculous...there are people that are actually in that state thats not a term you should just throw around to make a joke

He's got a fractured vertebrae, a broken neck, and a severe concussion, and you're calling me out for sensationalism?

I can't blame you, Chara would fit in just great with the Flyers.

Yes I am calling you out...the term vegetable is a horrible term..maybe you should think about things before you spew your mockery of someone in that state...have you had a loved one in that state ? Its not fun. To compare someone in that state to this kid is a bit ridiculous.

You have an issue with the Flyers being dirty maybe take a look at the Sabres history

Break The Sky

Yeah, and I'm not here to bust your ball bud, I just get taken away on a whim.

I just don't understand the free pass for Chara. I just don't.

James Wisniewski gets a 2 game suspension for mimicking Phallacio and Chara gets nothing.

I just don't see where the hurry is to make this game safer for the guys on the ice.

Drop The Leash 10

Big Drop wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Using the term vegetable is a bit ridiculous...there are people that are actually in that state thats not a term you should just throw around to make a joke

He's got a fractured vertebrae, a broken neck, and a severe concussion, and you're calling me out for sensationalism?

I can't blame you, Chara would fit in just great with the Flyers.

please associate a boston bruin with the flyers :P.

in phantoms defense he was moving his extremeties shortly after.

Break The Sky

Phantom Pain wrote:

Big Drop wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Using the term vegetable is a bit ridiculous...there are people that are actually in that state thats not a term you should just throw around to make a joke

He's got a fractured vertebrae, a broken neck, and a severe concussion, and you're calling me out for sensationalism?

I can't blame you, Chara would fit in just great with the Flyers.

Yes I am calling you out...the term vegetable is a horrible term..maybe you should think about things before you spew your mockery of someone in that state...have you had a loved one in that state ? Its not fun. To compare someone in that state to this kid is a bit ridiculous.

You have an issue with the Flyers being dirty maybe take a look at the Sabres history

That's a joke right? This guy could have legitimately died on the ice and you want to argue semantics? I'll send an apology your way when Chara sends one the way of Pacioretty.

And for the record, the Flyers are the dirtiest, gooniet, most cheating downright horrible team in the history of any sport. Ever.

The Flyers managed to take an alter boy like Danny Briere and got him to slash Franz Nielson in the face on a faceoff. Then the NHL only hands him a 3 game suspension.

Phantom Pain

The real issue is with Colon Campbell and his decisions

It's the most unbalanced I have seen the league when it comes to disciplinary actions

This Chara hit I didn't think had malice behind it...but who knows what a player is thinking when he's on the ice ?

Filing charges that's a whole other can of worms I don't think the league should deal with

I can't remember if charges were filed in that Bertuzzi suspension on Moore or not ?

Break The Sky

Phantom Pain wrote:

The real issue is with Colon Campbell and his decisions

It's the most unbalanced I have seen the league when it comes to disciplinary actions

This Chara hit I didn't think had malice behind it...but who knows what a player is thinking when he's on the ice ?

Filing charges that's a whole other can of worms I don't think the league should deal with

I can't remember if charges were filed in that Bertuzzi suspension on Moore or not ?

Bertuzzi is STILL paying Moore money and will be for a very very long time.

keeponrockin

The hand on the head says it all for me. Chara was one of my favourite players, now I view him as scum.

Phantom Pain

Big Drop wrote:

That's a joke right? This guy could have legitimately died on the ice and you want to argue semantics? I'll send an apology your way when Chara sends one the way of Pacioretty.

And for the record, the Flyers are the dirtiest, gooniet, most cheating downright horrible team in the history of any sport. Ever.

The Flyers managed to take an alter boy like Danny Briere and got him to slash Franz Nielson in the face on a faceoff. Then the NHL only hands him a 3 game suspension.

No its not FUCKIN Joke !

Yeah once they put on a Flyers Jersey their brains stop working and become goons

Wow, you are clueless not surprised as a Sabres fan though

And the Flyers have the 2nd best winning pct all time behind the Canadians..Sabres not so much

Sabres fan complaining about dirty players is hilarious (Brad May,Barnaby,Rob Ray) should I continue ?

Phantom Pain

Big Drop wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

The real issue is with Colon Campbell and his decisions

It's the most unbalanced I have seen the league when it comes to disciplinary actions

This Chara hit I didn't think had malice behind it...but who knows what a player is thinking when he's on the ice ?

Filing charges that's a whole other can of worms I don't think the league should deal with

I can't remember if charges were filed in that Bertuzzi suspension on Moore or not ?

Bertuzzi is STILL paying Moore money and will be for a very very long time.

I remember the lawsuit but I don't know if they had charges against Bertuzzi ?

Maybe it was thrown out of court ?

Break The Sky

Phantom Pain wrote:

Big Drop wrote:

That's a joke right? This guy could have legitimately died on the ice and you want to argue semantics? I'll send an apology your way when Chara sends one the way of Pacioretty.

And for the record, the Flyers are the dirtiest, gooniet, most cheating downright horrible team in the history of any sport. Ever.

The Flyers managed to take an alter boy like Danny Briere and got him to slash Franz Nielson in the face on a faceoff. Then the NHL only hands him a 3 game suspension.

No its not FUCKIN Joke !

Yeah once they put on a Flyers Jersey their brains stop working and become goons

Wow, you are clueless not surprised as a Sabres fan though

And the Flyers have the 2nd best winning pct all time behind the Canadians..Sabres not so much

Sabres fan complaining about dirty players is hilarious (Brad May,Barnaby,Rob Ray) should I continue ?

Recognize this? I wouldn't expect you to. It's the Lady Byng. A Flyer has never won it.

Phantom Pain

Drop The Leash 10 wrote:

Big Drop wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Using the term vegetable is a bit ridiculous...there are people that are actually in that state thats not a term you should just throw around to make a joke

He's got a fractured vertebrae, a broken neck, and a severe concussion, and you're calling me out for sensationalism?

I can't blame you, Chara would fit in just great with the Flyers.

please associate a boston bruin with the flyers :P.

in phantoms defense he was moving his extremeties shortly after.

Yeah...it was a nasty hit but he was moving and is coherent moments after the hit

Its horrible what heppened to him

Phantom Pain

Big Drop wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

Big Drop wrote:

That's a joke right? This guy could have legitimately died on the ice and you want to argue semantics? I'll send an apology your way when Chara sends one the way of Pacioretty.

And for the record, the Flyers are the dirtiest, gooniet, most cheating downright horrible team in the history of any sport. Ever.

The Flyers managed to take an alter boy like Danny Briere and got him to slash Franz Nielson in the face on a faceoff. Then the NHL only hands him a 3 game suspension.

No its not FUCKIN Joke !

Yeah once they put on a Flyers Jersey their brains stop working and become goons

Wow, you are clueless not surprised as a Sabres fan though

And the Flyers have the 2nd best winning pct all time behind the Canadians..Sabres not so much

Sabres fan complaining about dirty players is hilarious (Brad May,Barnaby,Rob Ray) should I continue ?

Recognize this? I wouldn't expect you to. It's the Lady Byng. A Flyer has never won it.

Thankfully

Maybe Rob Ray won one when he was not hooking his shoulder pads on so when he fought his jersey and pads came right off so the guy he was fighting couldn't hold on to anything...classy

Break The Sky

Everyone knows Ray did that. I'm not going to say it's wasn't a tactic to help him win fights. . . but who was it he was fighting? Donald Brashier? Tie Domi? Claude Lemioux?

The reason we needed guys like Ray and Playfair was because of teams like the Flyers.

The NHL was different back then, and that's the reason you didn't see anyone jump Chara after the hit, mostly because Brian Gianta is 5'2 1/2.

Claude Lemioux and Darcy Tucker got what was coming to them when they played dirty. Enforcers are a dying breed and the NHL won't take any action.

You tell me what the real crime was. Rob Ray wearing an XXL jersey when his size was an XL or Claude Lemioux putting Kris Draper face first into the boards?

Gibson72

Ok here is my opinion:

The hit was interference for sure cuz chara got burned on the play.
It's unfortunate what happened but the is only 1 truth:

Only chara knows if he did it on purpose or not. He is the only one that can say yes I did or no I didn't.

The criminal investigation is crap.
The NHL made their decision & it won't change.

jimed14

People need to chill out. There is nothing you can do to control this ... unless you want to stop watching, stop going to games, etc ... which you're not going to do.

The league is fucking daft for not suspending Chara for a few games ... yes, I'm a Bruins fan and I'm saying that. Almost feel it's being done to get their league talked about. Any publicity is good publicity, right?

This all said, criminal charges? C'mon, ridiculous.

Phantom Pain

Big Drop wrote:

Everyone knows Ray did that. I'm not going to say it's wasn't a tactic to help him win fights. . . but who was it he was fighting? Donald Brashier? Tie Domi? Claude Lemioux?

The reason we needed guys like Ray and Playfair was because of teams like the Flyers.

The NHL was different back then, and that's the reason you didn't see anyone jump Chara after the hit, mostly because Brian Gianta is 5'2 1/2.

Claude Lemioux and Darcy Tucker got what was coming to them when they played dirty. Enforcers are a dying breed and the NHL won't take any action.

You tell me what the real crime was. Rob Ray wearing an XXL jersey when his size was an XL or Claude Lemioux putting Kris Draper face first into the boards?

Everyone knows he did it but it doesn't make it right..there is a code of honor with fighters in the NHL. Obviously Ray did not heed that code. Illegal hits that you described have no place in the game.

The Flyers were not always a team that fought when they came into the league. You can thank the St.Louis Blues for the Flyers becoming the Bullies. I know you HATE the Flyers but check out the great documentary HBO did on the Broad Street Bullies if you haven't seen it. I'm not justifying the Flyers behavior but you're kidding yourself if you think the Flyers are the sole reason for the fights and dirty hits. The fights and dirty play was around long before the Flyers.

You forgot the biggest 2 pieces of shit to ever play in the NHL IMO..Dale Hunter and Ulf Samuelsson

The instigator rule is what needs to change

jimed14

Phantom Pain wrote:

You forgot the biggest 2 pieces of shit to ever play in the NHL IMO..Dale Hunter and Ulf Samuelsson

No Bruins fan will ever disagree with this statement.

Break The Sky

Phantom Pain wrote:

Big Drop wrote:

Everyone knows Ray did that. I'm not going to say it's wasn't a tactic to help him win fights. . . but who was it he was fighting? Donald Brashier? Tie Domi? Claude Lemioux?

The reason we needed guys like Ray and Playfair was because of teams like the Flyers.

The NHL was different back then, and that's the reason you didn't see anyone jump Chara after the hit, mostly because Brian Gianta is 5'2 1/2.

Claude Lemioux and Darcy Tucker got what was coming to them when they played dirty. Enforcers are a dying breed and the NHL won't take any action.

You tell me what the real crime was. Rob Ray wearing an XXL jersey when his size was an XL or Claude Lemioux putting Kris Draper face first into the boards?

Everyone knows he did it but it doesn't make it right..there is a code of honor with fighters in the NHL. Obviously Ray did not heed that code. Illegal hits that you described have no place in the game.

The Flyers were not always a team that fought when they came into the league. You can thank the St.Louis Blues for the Flyers becoming the Bullies. I know you HATE the Flyers but check out the great documentary HBO did on the Broad Street Bullies if you haven't seen it. I'm not justifying the Flyers behavior but you're kidding yourself if you think the Flyers are the sole reason for the fights and dirty hits. The fights and dirty play was around long before the Flyers.

You forgot the biggest 2 pieces of shit to ever play in the NHL IMO..Dale Hunter and Ulf Samuelsson

The instigator rule is what needs to change

I do hate the flyers, but I'd gladly watch anything that's related to hockey.

It's obvious you know your stuff and I don't get to argue like this about hockey very much. I hope that by the time one of us stops posting on this thread you know that it's nothing against you, or Drop The Leash 10 either. You guys obviously love your hockey and I haven't had this much fun bitching about sports in a long time. I'm going to be sour about the Pacioretty hit because of what Hjalmarsson already did to Pominville this year, and no matter how much I bitch about it, I get that people are going to disagree. I just like when someone can actually make an argument, which you have.

And if I see you at the PJ20 fest, I'd happily buy you a beer and talk more hockey, so long as you drink Labatt :twisted: .

I'd love to have the chance to tell you what I think of Garth Snow in person sometime.

Phantom Pain

jimed14 wrote:

Phantom Pain wrote:

You forgot the biggest 2 pieces of shit to ever play in the NHL IMO..Dale Hunter and Ulf Samuelsson

No Bruins fan will ever disagree with this statement.

Cam Neeley's career

Don't get me wrong hated that Bruins team but no player should have a career ended early