O'Reilly would make them look like fools hence one reason Obama wont go near him
O'Reilly gets his butt kicked half the time by the viewers that come on to debate him. You might not have noticed because he just starts shouting at them when he starts losing the debate.
O'Reilly gets his butt kicked half the time by the viewers that come on to debate him. You might not have noticed because he just starts shouting at them when he starts losing the debate.
Bruce and Ed would make him cry.
is that O'Reilly the sorry excuse of a 'journalist' in Outfoxed?
the guy ranting, propagandising and insulting his hosts?
description seems to fit...I couldn't believe that this could remotely be considered news!
even our political adverts are more objective!
I've never really understood why Fox is considered such a joke for leaning to the right when every other news outlet in the country goes left....explain to me how that's not true if it isn't.
And those who speak their minds whether it be Ed, the Boss or O'Reilly should never shy away from the opportunity to debate with folks who aren't their "choir". O'Reilly makes the rounds on the talk shows, why shouldn't folks who disagree with him go on his show and answer the tough questions, give their opinions. Now doing that would supposedly go a lot further toward changing attitudes and opinions than grandstanding at a concert
O'Reilly's show is there for everyone to watch if they so choose with little effort....a Bruce Springsteen concert is, however, not readily accessible to everyone, so, yes, pontificiating at a concert is preaching to the choir in large because most everyone at a show has the same views. Unwllingness to debate in public or on a TV show that frequently expresses viewpoints opposing those one holds and believes in makes no sense to me....wouldn't one who truly believes in what they say relish the opportunity to do that?
All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
I've never really understood why Fox is considered such a joke for leaning to the right when every other news outlet in the country goes left....explain to me how that's not true if it isn't.
well, from what I've seen of it, Fox isn't 'leaning' to the right, it's a pure propaganda machine for the extreme right.
And always makes me laugh when I hear what Americans call 'left'.. which is moderately conservative at best by the rest of the world standards..
well, from what I've seen of it, Fox isn't 'leaning' to the right, it's a pure propaganda machine for the extreme right.
Exactly.
I've worked in the media and the journalists I knew were serious about getting the story right and guarded against their own biases, as did their editors.
Fox sets out to tell their version of a story. Their radio news spots are actually worse than Fox News if you can believe it.
well, from what I've seen of it, Fox isn't 'leaning' to the right, it's a pure propaganda machine for the extreme right..
Whatever, maybe "leaning" wasn't the best way to describe it, but Fox "leans" one way just as hard as all the other networks "lean" the other way....that was my point which still stands
All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
right and left is a control system,divide and conquer if you will.
O' Reilly doesn't want to debate he just wants to shout his masters orders.none of these shows are a forum for truth anyway and just because Ed or Bruce or anyone for that matter wants to talk about the war or incite thought,doesn't make it "preaching to the choir"
dissent & questioning authority is as American as it gets(more than apple pie)whether I'm doing it at a bar or they do it on a stage makes no difference.
O' Reilly doesn't want to debate he just wants to shout his masters orders.none of these shows are a forum for truth anyway and just because Ed or Bruce or anyone for that matter wants to talk about the war or incite thought,doesn't make it "preaching to the choir"
dissent & questioning authority is as American as it gets(more than apple pie)whether I'm doing it at a bar or they do it on a stage makes no difference.
No, talking about war or inciting thought doesn't necessarily make it "preaching to the choir" but limiting such talk to concerts certainly wouldn't be as fruitful in getting those viewpoints across or inciting though (and thus possibly changes in thought) as appearing on a show which has an audience that largely holds opposing views....one might say preaching to the non-believers. At concerts, more often than not, they are preaching to the believers. O'Reilly's show or Anderson Cooper's or any other show might not be a forum for truth, but they are damn sure vehicles for sharing opinions whether everyone agrees with those viewpoints or not. I can't stand Hillary Clinton but if I turned the TV off every time she came on and never listened to a word she said wouldn't I be missing out...only listening to the viewpoints of your favorite "preacher" creates a pretty narrow view of things in my opinion
And I don't believe I or anyone else said dissent and questioning authority was a bad thing...it's a damn nice right to have!!
All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
the listing on TM says 8pm for the shows, doesn't that normally mean the time the opener starts?
did it say that for the show that Liam started at 7.30?
just wondering because the person I'm picking up the ticket from is meeting me at 7.30pm only..I'd like to see Liam though.
You're right...TM says 8pm....that's when Liam will go on. I'm guessing doors will be open at 7. The Wiltern is all GA, right? I wonder how long people will be waiting in line to get up front.
For the Santa Cruz and Berkeley shows, Liam went on at 7:30, doors opened at 6:30.
You're right...TM says 8pm....that's when Liam will go on. I'm guessing doors will be open at 7. The Wiltern is all GA, right? I wonder how long people will be waiting in line to get up front.
For the Santa Cruz and Berkeley shows, Liam went on at 7:30, doors opened at 6:30.
is it GA?? (not standing I know...if only!)
I thought the seats were assigned...pretty certain I saw seat numbers on ebay and shit.
No, talking about war or inciting thought doesn't necessarily make it "preaching to the choir" but limiting such talk to concerts certainly wouldn't be as fruitful in getting those viewpoints across or inciting though (and thus possibly changes in thought) as appearing on a show which has an audience that largely holds opposing views....one might say preaching to the non-believers. At concerts, more often than not, they are preaching to the believers. O'Reilly's show or Anderson Cooper's or any other show might not be a forum for truth, but they are damn sure vehicles for sharing opinions whether everyone agrees with those viewpoints or not. I can't stand Hillary Clinton but if I turned the TV off every time she came on and never listened to a word she said wouldn't I be missing out...only listening to the viewpoints of your favorite "preacher" creates a pretty narrow view of things in my opinion
And I don't believe I or anyone else said dissent and questioning authority was a bad thing...it's a damn nice right to have!!
Ed or Bruce going on O Reilly wouldn't be better than them talking at a concert.at the concert are people who love/respect them,people who would be more inclined to listen as a opposed to O Reilly's audience who would have nothing but contempt for anything they say.
like i said,those shows are not about debate they are about sellout assholes shouting over any intelligence that may dare to contradict the propaganda they get paid so much to spew.
at the concert are people who love/respect them,people who would be more inclined to listen
Hence, preaching to the choir. Obviously you aren't getting the point I am making. Maybe going on O'Reilly would be a waste, but it would damn sure be an opportunity to make him look like the fool some many believe he is....plus they could share opinions with people that might not necessarily LOVE/RESPECT them soooooo very very much and maybe, just maybe, change the way a few of those people think.....hell, they might even get one of those people to LOVE/RESPECT them too!!!
All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
You're right...TM says 8pm....that's when Liam will go on. I'm guessing doors will be open at 7. The Wiltern is all GA, right? I wonder how long people will be waiting in line to get up front
the wiltern is NOT ga for ed's shows....all seated.....
Ed or Bruce going on O Reilly wouldn't be better than them talking at a concert.at the concert are people who love/respect them,people who would be more inclined to listen as a opposed to O Reilly's audience who would have nothing but contempt for anything they say.
like i said,those shows are not about debate they are about sellout assholes shouting over any intelligence that may dare to contradict the propaganda they get paid so much to spew.
Maybe that's a risk that they should be willing to take, then: going onto a show or something similar where they do not neccesairly have the popular support. Who knows, they might change peoples minds. Talking to people who "love and respect" them, that's cool and it can certinally inspire people. But at the end of the day, it's really 'preaching to the choir' isn't it? I mean, in the long run, what does that really achieve?
I'm not just talking about that O Reily show, because I do agree that the man is quite manipulative and has a habit of blowing things out of proportion. But there are other shows.
Maybe that's a risk that they should be willing to take, then: going onto a show or something similar where they do not neccesairly have the popular support. Who knows, they might change peoples minds. Talking to people who "love and respect" them, that's cool and it can certinally inspire people. But at the end of the day, it's really 'preaching to the choir' isn't it? I mean, in the long run, what does that really achieve?
I'm not just talking about that O Reily show, because I do agree that the man is quite manipulative and has a habit of blowing things out of proportion. But there are other shows.
Exactly. Thank you
All I have to do is revel in the everyday....then do it again tomorrow
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
O'Reilly gets his butt kicked half the time by the viewers that come on to debate him. You might not have noticed because he just starts shouting at them when he starts losing the debate.
Bruce and Ed would make him cry.
if Ed could complete a full sentence without an ummmm or an uhhhhh i would consider that a moral victory
Question - How do you feel having a contingency of fans who have different ideologies as all of you?
Ed Vedder's answer - FUCK EM'
Well I guess we summed this all up.
I should add that that was only the first part of Ed's answer, but I loved that answer. I don't think another artist would have had the balls to fire that off.
Maybe going on O'Reilly would be a waste, but it would damn sure be an opportunity to make him look like the fool some many believe he is....plus they could share opinions with people that might not necessarily LOVE/RESPECT them soooooo very very much and maybe, just maybe, change the way a few of those people think.....hell, they might even get one of those people to LOVE/RESPECT them too!!!
i know what you're saying but the radical right are just as brainwashed as the radical left.but there is always a chance that they would reach someone,i guess.even if it's one person it's worth trying.so i agree with you as far as that goes.
Good watch...saw it last year. Check out the comments. Every dumb ass is bitchin about Sean's smoking. F'in waste of time ya morons. Great interview though!
I've never really understood why Fox is considered such a joke for leaning to the right when every other news outlet in the country goes left....explain to me how that's not true if it isn't.
And those who speak their minds whether it be Ed, the Boss or O'Reilly should never shy away from the opportunity to debate with folks who aren't their "choir". O'Reilly makes the rounds on the talk shows, why shouldn't folks who disagree with him go on his show and answer the tough questions, give their opinions. Now doing that would supposedly go a lot further toward changing attitudes and opinions than grandstanding at a concert
O'Reilly's show is there for everyone to watch if they so choose with little effort....a Bruce Springsteen concert is, however, not readily accessible to everyone, so, yes, pontificiating at a concert is preaching to the choir in large because most everyone at a show has the same views. Unwllingness to debate in public or on a TV show that frequently expresses viewpoints opposing those one holds and believes in makes no sense to me....wouldn't one who truly believes in what they say relish the opportunity to do that?
Fox leans to the right and all the other stations lean to the left? WAKE UP
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O'Reilly gets his butt kicked half the time by the viewers that come on to debate him. You might not have noticed because he just starts shouting at them when he starts losing the debate.
Bruce and Ed would make him cry.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me...
the guy ranting, propagandising and insulting his hosts?
description seems to fit...I couldn't believe that this could remotely be considered news!
even our political adverts are more objective!
it's not!! not by anyone with any semblance of common sense.the problem is sense seems to no longer be common.
Isn't O'Reilly having his show on Fox News "preaching to the choir"?
And those who speak their minds whether it be Ed, the Boss or O'Reilly should never shy away from the opportunity to debate with folks who aren't their "choir". O'Reilly makes the rounds on the talk shows, why shouldn't folks who disagree with him go on his show and answer the tough questions, give their opinions. Now doing that would supposedly go a lot further toward changing attitudes and opinions than grandstanding at a concert
O'Reilly's show is there for everyone to watch if they so choose with little effort....a Bruce Springsteen concert is, however, not readily accessible to everyone, so, yes, pontificiating at a concert is preaching to the choir in large because most everyone at a show has the same views. Unwllingness to debate in public or on a TV show that frequently expresses viewpoints opposing those one holds and believes in makes no sense to me....wouldn't one who truly believes in what they say relish the opportunity to do that?
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
And always makes me laugh when I hear what Americans call 'left'.. which is moderately conservative at best by the rest of the world standards..
Exactly.
I've worked in the media and the journalists I knew were serious about getting the story right and guarded against their own biases, as did their editors.
Fox sets out to tell their version of a story. Their radio news spots are actually worse than Fox News if you can believe it.
It's certainly not journalism.
I'll ride the wave where it takes me...
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
O' Reilly doesn't want to debate he just wants to shout his masters orders.none of these shows are a forum for truth anyway and just because Ed or Bruce or anyone for that matter wants to talk about the war or incite thought,doesn't make it "preaching to the choir"
dissent & questioning authority is as American as it gets(more than apple pie)whether I'm doing it at a bar or they do it on a stage makes no difference.
And I don't believe I or anyone else said dissent and questioning authority was a bad thing...it's a damn nice right to have!!
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
You're right...TM says 8pm....that's when Liam will go on. I'm guessing doors will be open at 7. The Wiltern is all GA, right? I wonder how long people will be waiting in line to get up front.
For the Santa Cruz and Berkeley shows, Liam went on at 7:30, doors opened at 6:30.
I thought the seats were assigned...pretty certain I saw seat numbers on ebay and shit.
Ed or Bruce going on O Reilly wouldn't be better than them talking at a concert.at the concert are people who love/respect them,people who would be more inclined to listen as a opposed to O Reilly's audience who would have nothing but contempt for anything they say.
like i said,those shows are not about debate they are about sellout assholes shouting over any intelligence that may dare to contradict the propaganda they get paid so much to spew.
Hence, preaching to the choir. Obviously you aren't getting the point I am making. Maybe going on O'Reilly would be a waste, but it would damn sure be an opportunity to make him look like the fool some many believe he is....plus they could share opinions with people that might not necessarily LOVE/RESPECT them soooooo very very much and maybe, just maybe, change the way a few of those people think.....hell, they might even get one of those people to LOVE/RESPECT them too!!!
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
the wiltern is NOT ga for ed's shows....all seated.....
Maybe that's a risk that they should be willing to take, then: going onto a show or something similar where they do not neccesairly have the popular support. Who knows, they might change peoples minds. Talking to people who "love and respect" them, that's cool and it can certinally inspire people. But at the end of the day, it's really 'preaching to the choir' isn't it? I mean, in the long run, what does that really achieve?
I'm not just talking about that O Reily show, because I do agree that the man is quite manipulative and has a habit of blowing things out of proportion. But there are other shows.
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
if Ed could complete a full sentence without an ummmm or an uhhhhh i would consider that a moral victory
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
I looked on their website and it doesn't say anything about it.
Question - How do you feel having a contingency of fans who have different ideologies as all of you?
Ed Vedder's answer - FUCK EM'
Well I guess we summed this all up.
They say every sin is deadly but I believe they may be wrong...I'm guilty of all seven and I don't feel too bad at all
you know they cut that part out of the replay of Storytellers i just watched it the other day
I should add that that was only the first part of Ed's answer, but I loved that answer. I don't think another artist would have had the balls to fire that off.
i have come across enough people on the train to know it's not preaching to the choir.
i know what you're saying but the radical right are just as brainwashed as the radical left.but there is always a chance that they would reach someone,i guess.even if it's one person it's worth trying.so i agree with you as far as that goes.
let's see you in front of 20,000 people trying to choose your words Mr.Articulate!!
Good watch...saw it last year. Check out the comments. Every dumb ass is bitchin about Sean's smoking. F'in waste of time ya morons. Great interview though!
I'd say tune in Sunday and watch the synopsis to see if he is on this week,like i said I'm only 90% sure it's this week.
but 100% sure he is going to be on 60 minutes.
Fox leans to the right and all the other stations lean to the left? WAKE UP