"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
my "you wanna freak out" is incomplete if anyone can rectify that.
otherwise, fantastic album.
Yes, on both.
yes as in yes you can rectify that? if you can, send some "info" my way.
Sorry, my bad, by skim reading, I translated it in my head with 'confirm' that, as in - it seems everyones' copy is incomplete. I even wrote that first. :oops: I wish I had it.
This album is weaksauce . Hopefully the songs translate better live. The Fleet Foxes have now made 2 studio albums that are better than any mmj studio album. Not necessarily better songs. Just better albums. How is that? They are currently one of the top 3 live bands but there sound doesn't translate in the studio. Where is the raw energy. This album still doesn't sound like it's recorded live and alot of the band is not utilized. It's a lil better than Evil Urges(not saying alot) but doesn't have a Touch Me 2 moment. Don't write this band off until you see them live though. That's where they shine.
This album is weaksauce . Hopefully the songs translate better live. The Fleet Foxes have now made 2 studio albums that are better than any mmj studio album. Not necessarily better songs. Just better albums. How is that? They are currently one of the top 3 live bands but there sound doesn't translate in the studio. Where is the raw energy. This album still doesn't sound like it's recorded live and alot of the band is not utilized. It's a lil better than Evil Urges(not saying alot) but doesn't have a Touch Me 2 moment. Don't write this band off until you see them live though. That's where they shine.
I understand your love for the Fleet Foxes but to say that they have made 2 albums better than any My Morning Jacket album is comical. I know it all comes down to personal preference but really??? It Still Moves and Z don't stand up to the fleet fox albums?
This album is weaksauce . Hopefully the songs translate better live. The Fleet Foxes have now made 2 studio albums that are better than any mmj studio album. Not necessarily better songs. Just better albums. How is that? They are currently one of the top 3 live bands but there sound doesn't translate in the studio. Where is the raw energy. This album still doesn't sound like it's recorded live and alot of the band is not utilized. It's a lil better than Evil Urges(not saying alot) but doesn't have a Touch Me 2 moment. Don't write this band off until you see them live though. That's where they shine.
I understand your love for the Fleet Foxes but to say that they have made 2 albums better than any My Morning Jacket album is comical. I know it all comes down to personal preference but really??? It Still Moves and Z don't stand up to the fleet fox albums?
The Fleet Foxes Studio albums just showcase their band better. I prefer My Morning Jacket's songs on those albums but alot of them sound flat in the studio. Any live version of Dondante>studio version. Same with Steam Engine, Run Thru or countless others. Just my .02. Yim's lyrics can also be a bit cheesy at times :? *cough Sec Walkin,Librarian*. Thanks for understanding my love though
It's a very chill album. Not a lot of heavy rockers, not a lot of guitars. But, I have no doubt that it will translate well live. I've listened twice now and really enjoy it. Really looking forward to the webcast on 5/31.
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can someone please explain to me the relation between fleet foxes and my morning jacket? sawyerjam, you keep talking about fleet foxes here. what's up with that? these are two completely different bands. mmj rocks, fleet foxes does not.
anyway, this album is fantastic, and on the contrary to some opinion, i think they managed to capture their 2010 live sound perfectly on this album. over time, i think some of you who aren't digging it will jump on board. this is way better than evil urges and will go down as a classic. up there with "the people's key" as my favorite album of the year so far.
can someone please explain to me the relation between fleet foxes and my morning jacket? sawyerjam, you keep talking about fleet foxes here. what's up with that? these are two completely different bands. mmj rocks, fleet foxes does not.
All I WAS SAYING WAS THAT THE FLEET FOXES CAPTURE THEIR MAGIC IN THE STUDIO AND MY MORNING JACKET CAPTURE IT LIVE. That is all. I paid 400.00 to see MMJ In Portland Maine last October and drove 4 hrs. They are worth it live. The fleet Foxes come up because they are maxing out their potential which mmj should have more of for the studio. The Fleet Foxes do rock btw.
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
can someone please explain to me the relation between fleet foxes and my morning jacket? sawyerjam, you keep talking about fleet foxes here. what's up with that? these are two completely different bands. mmj rocks, fleet foxes does not.
All I WAS SAYING WAS THAT THE FLEET FOXES CAPTURE THEIR MAGIC IN THE STUDIO AND MY MORNING JACKET CAPTURE IT LIVE. That is all. I paid 400.00 to see MMJ In Portland Maine last October and drove 4 hrs. They are worth it live. The fleet Foxes come up because they are maxing out their potential which mmj should have more of for the studio. The Fleet Foxes do rock btw.
i understand what you are trying to say, i don't agree with it, but i get it. not sure what they could do to capture their magic in the studio? i didn't like evil urges much either, but the first four albums were all incredible. z and it still moves in particular sound pretty close to what they do live....and i think the new one is no different in that regard.
i guess i just get annoyed when fleet foxes come up in a discussion about mmj. they seem to be wrongfully compared way too much. really, the only similarities in their music is that both lead singers use reverb...and they both have bass, drums, and guitars and stuff.
can someone please explain to me the relation between fleet foxes and my morning jacket? sawyerjam, you keep talking about fleet foxes here. what's up with that? these are two completely different bands. mmj rocks, fleet foxes does not.
All I WAS SAYING WAS THAT THE FLEET FOXES CAPTURE THEIR MAGIC IN THE STUDIO AND MY MORNING JACKET CAPTURE IT LIVE. That is all. I paid 400.00 to see MMJ In Portland Maine last October and drove 4 hrs. They are worth it live. The fleet Foxes come up because they are maxing out their potential which mmj should have more of for the studio. The Fleet Foxes do rock btw.
i understand what you are trying to say, i don't agree with it, but i get it. not sure what they could do to capture their magic in the studio? i didn't like evil urges much either, but the first four albums were all incredible. z and it still moves in particular sound pretty close to what they do live....and i think the new one is no different in that regard.
i guess i just get annoyed when fleet foxes come up in a discussion about mmj. they seem to be wrongfully compared way too much. really, the only similarities in their music is that both lead singers use reverb...and they both have bass, drums, and guitars and stuff.
I just want the T5 Boxset already. The Tennessee Fire and At Dawn are played soooooo much better now. Especially War Begun and They Ran. This album sounds a lil too much like Evil Urges 2 for me. They'll probably still kill the songs live though. I do wish Backspacers strings were mixed more like Wonderful in the studio.
“I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
I just want the T5 Boxset already. The Tennessee Fire and At Dawn are played soooooo much better now. Especially War Begun and They Ran. This album sounds a lil too much like Evil Urges 2 for me. They'll probably still kill the songs live though. I do wish Backspacers strings were mixed more like Wonderful in the studio.
i'm with you on the t5 boxset. can't wait for that.....speaking of backspacer/pearl jam....that's a band we are all familiar with that i would say has never been able to capture their live sound in the studio...aside from maybe ten which isn't even my favorite pj album.
I've had more time to listen and i will soften my stance that it is bad.
I think some of the songs will sound better live, but a lot of these songs could be a jim james solo album. The band seems underutilized.
It has some good moments, but i'm not blown away buy it. I don't see me giving this album to a friend that wants to get into them and saying this music will make you a fan. It won't be near one of my fav albums of the year either.
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I've had more time to listen and i will soften my stance that it is bad.
I think some of the songs will sound better live, but a lot of these songs could be a jim james solo album. The band seems underutilized.
It has some good moments, but i'm not blown away buy it. I don't see me giving this album to a friend that wants to get into them and saying this music will make you a fan. It won't be near one of my fav albums of the year either.
Exactamundo. I'm sad that Black Metal isn't the worst song. It's actually one of the best. The cheese factor is up to 11 on some of these songs. I can't believe I'd say EU is better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXig7XhEyOM
i hate to come back here and agree with some of you....but i've listened to this album about 20 times now. it's pretty much all i've played since i got my hands on it....anyway, i loved evil urges when it came out, but that enthusiasm quickly faded away. i'm starting to think that same thing is going on here. i just love my morning jacket and jim james so much, that everytime i hear something new from them i am able to convince myself that it is perfect. i've had similar experiences with pearl jam's last two albums, and i hope i'm wrong, but i'm starting to get over this new stuff already. i still really like it, but it doesn't seem like it's as great as i initially thought.
...that said, i still think it's way better than evil urges. "wonderful (the way i feel)" came out perfect, and the album definitely has some really nice moments. i guess time will tell what my official stance is on this one....but i doubt i'll rank it up amongst the first four albums in the long run. still can't wait to see them on the tour. as of now, i have 3 dates that i'll be making.
MMJ...no matter how hard they try...just can't capture the magic in the studio... Whether they claim this album was recorded "live" or not... it does not reflect what they actually do live. They're gonna kill this shit live...and, that is the glory of this band.
Perfect Examples:
Honest Man
Smokin' from Shootin'
Snoozers on the albums, freakin incredible live.
MMJ live is what its all about.
And Lifted - your right about the comparison to PJ"s last 2 albums... totally immersed myself in them when (and a little before ) they came out. Loved them both when they came out (or so I thought). Songs live (Especially Backspacer songs) are miles better than the studio versions (see previous comments made about the strings on Backspacer). Now, after time has passed... Avacado and Backspacer are my least favorite PJ albums. Still love the songs live tho...
Honestly, Im starting to think MMJ does it on purpose. All the articles preceding the new album talked about how this was going to be their most raw/live sounding album...that they wanted to re-create the sound that makes them so great live.... And yet here we are...with the album out there...and it just seems like they're inside a bubble or something. Like they're holding back. Like they want to rock the fuck out and blow your mind...but they're gonna make u wait till they tour.
I feel PJ does, and has been doing the same thing for years. They maybe rush the album (well, maybe just the last two) just to get something out there that they can tour on. Then, live in concert, the songs come to life.
And, for those of you who are gonna flame me cuz At Dawn, It Still Moves and/or Z is/are the best things MMJ has ever done....I'll agree with you...song wise....but you can't ever convince me that those songs are better on the albums than they are live...and THAT is the argument that I think sawyerjam and some others have been making.
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Evil Urges is bad. Circuital is worse. Avacado is bad. Backspacer is worse. I love both bands but Jesus.IMO The King Of Limbs shits all over these records and people hate because u expect more from Radiohead :roll: . The Butcher owns anything on Circuital and that's a free song. Truth. I'd also say Tweedy is a better songwriter than Yim :?
Evil Urges is bad. Circuital is worse. Avacado is bad. Backspacer is worse. I love both bands but Jesus.IMO The King Of Limbs shits all over these records and people hate because u expect more from Radiohead :roll: . The Butcher owns anything on Circuital and that's a free song. Truth. I'd also say Tweedy is a better songwriter than Yim :?
yeah? well that's just like your opinion, man
“I know this song so well, I can smoke a cigarette, have a drink, brush my teeth, take a shit, and mow the lawn while singing it. But I'll only be doing a couple of those things during this version.”
Evil Urges is bad. Circuital is worse. Avacado is bad. Backspacer is worse. I love both bands but Jesus.IMO The King Of Limbs shits all over these records and people hate because u expect more from Radiohead :roll: . The Butcher owns anything on Circuital and that's a free song. Truth. I'd also say Tweedy is a better songwriter than Yim :?
yeah? well that's just like your opinion, man
I don't even like writing that stuff but I'm 28 now and I'm gonna be candid. You can't fluff everything your favorite bands do. Music is their job. If you write a song like Sec Walkin... well... . Left Lane, Right Lane....Red Light , Green Light
this is turning into the "New Radiohead Album" thread all over again
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"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
After a few days and several listens I think it's pretty damn cool.
Kinda silly to gripe about lyrics with MMJ. JJ/YY has always been pretty quirky with the lyrics.
I didn't really read any of the "making of the album" stuff so I was just expecting an MMJ record and this does the trick. I think it could use a couple more tunes, maybe a couple upbeat tunes. After Black Metal could use a little boost.
Slow Slow Tune is the stinker for me. Don't see why JJ couldn't find a better register to sing it in. It's painfully fake sounding to me.
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otherwise, fantastic album.
Yes, on both.
yes as in yes you can rectify that? if you can, send some "info" my way.
Thanks. Nicked the picture from some music website - too funny not to.
Sorry, my bad, by skim reading, I translated it in my head with 'confirm' that, as in - it seems everyones' copy is incomplete. I even wrote that first. :oops: I wish I had it.
:(
Disapointing
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I understand your love for the Fleet Foxes but to say that they have made 2 albums better than any My Morning Jacket album is comical. I know it all comes down to personal preference but really??? It Still Moves and Z don't stand up to the fleet fox albums?
http://youtu.be/2O23EzxT-Ug
BRRRRRRAAAAAAAHHHHH, BRRRRRRAAAAAAAHHHHH
anyway, this album is fantastic, and on the contrary to some opinion, i think they managed to capture their 2010 live sound perfectly on this album. over time, i think some of you who aren't digging it will jump on board. this is way better than evil urges and will go down as a classic. up there with "the people's key" as my favorite album of the year so far.
Hilarious!
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i understand what you are trying to say, i don't agree with it, but i get it. not sure what they could do to capture their magic in the studio? i didn't like evil urges much either, but the first four albums were all incredible. z and it still moves in particular sound pretty close to what they do live....and i think the new one is no different in that regard.
i guess i just get annoyed when fleet foxes come up in a discussion about mmj. they seem to be wrongfully compared way too much. really, the only similarities in their music is that both lead singers use reverb...and they both have bass, drums, and guitars and stuff.
9 is glorious.
overall the album is "pretty good"
i'm with you on the t5 boxset. can't wait for that.....speaking of backspacer/pearl jam....that's a band we are all familiar with that i would say has never been able to capture their live sound in the studio...aside from maybe ten which isn't even my favorite pj album.
I think some of the songs will sound better live, but a lot of these songs could be a jim james solo album. The band seems underutilized.
It has some good moments, but i'm not blown away buy it. I don't see me giving this album to a friend that wants to get into them and saying this music will make you a fan. It won't be near one of my fav albums of the year either.
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...that said, i still think it's way better than evil urges. "wonderful (the way i feel)" came out perfect, and the album definitely has some really nice moments. i guess time will tell what my official stance is on this one....but i doubt i'll rank it up amongst the first four albums in the long run. still can't wait to see them on the tour. as of now, i have 3 dates that i'll be making.
Perfect Examples:
Honest Man
Smokin' from Shootin'
Snoozers on the albums, freakin incredible live.
MMJ live is what its all about.
And Lifted - your right about the comparison to PJ"s last 2 albums... totally immersed myself in them when (and a little before
Honestly, Im starting to think MMJ does it on purpose. All the articles preceding the new album talked about how this was going to be their most raw/live sounding album...that they wanted to re-create the sound that makes them so great live.... And yet here we are...with the album out there...and it just seems like they're inside a bubble or something. Like they're holding back. Like they want to rock the fuck out and blow your mind...but they're gonna make u wait till they tour.
I feel PJ does, and has been doing the same thing for years. They maybe rush the album (well, maybe just the last two) just to get something out there that they can tour on. Then, live in concert, the songs come to life.
And, for those of you who are gonna flame me cuz At Dawn, It Still Moves and/or Z is/are the best things MMJ has ever done....I'll agree with you...song wise....but you can't ever convince me that those songs are better on the albums than they are live...and THAT is the argument that I think sawyerjam and some others have been making.
yeah? well that's just like your opinion, man
Kinda silly to gripe about lyrics with MMJ. JJ/YY has always been pretty quirky with the lyrics.
I didn't really read any of the "making of the album" stuff so I was just expecting an MMJ record and this does the trick. I think it could use a couple more tunes, maybe a couple upbeat tunes. After Black Metal could use a little boost.
Slow Slow Tune is the stinker for me. Don't see why JJ couldn't find a better register to sing it in. It's painfully fake sounding to me.
It's better than King of Limbs.