Silverchair - Young Modern

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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Loved Young Modern. The new track is not that difficult to understand if you really listened to that record. Good for him for exploring new horizons. That early sound they had could only continue for so long before they became like Nickleback.
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,253
    Yeah .... I don't follow that at all. Israels son was absolutely nothing like nickleback nor was madman or in fact anything off frog stomp

    I don't really understand your point there unless they would all sound the same which is to me a pointless theory. Most bands don't leave their genre and yet still leave a great musical legacy. Let's looks at rem, RATM, SOAD, slipknot, gaslight, etc etc ... Whilst the sounds have evolved they didn't at any point ever leave their original genre and 'bracket'. I don't believe any of them became nickleback.

    Silverchair evolved pretty well from the debut to diorama ... I would hardly say they stayed still. I guess what I'm saying is I haven't a clue what your point is or was.

    Yet ditching your rock talent and history to release a piss poor rnb timberlake rip off is more than a little eyebrow raising and judging by the online reaction I'm not entirely alone ....he's succeeded very nicely in alienating a massive fanbase. But then if you can make money producing something bland and generic for the radio masses and earn a ton of cash whilst its played as background music for years to come then why ever not.

    Paul mac IMO has a lot to answer for ;)
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Allow me to clarify. I'm not saying their first record was like Nickleback. I was saying they released dynamic new stuff to avoid releasing the same kind of record over and over, like Nickleback. Not a stylistic comparison by any means.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,499
    I gotta agree with Paul on this subject. It's one thing to expand your horizons and experiment, but it's another if that experimentation sounds like shit.

    I was a really big Silverchair fan and then Daniel got a bit too holier-than-thou about it. No one would even know who they are if Diorama was their first album.
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  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,841
    This track is to Silverchair what Chris Cornell's 'Scream' was to Soundgarden. Maybe that means we'll see a King-Animal-style reunion for Silverchair in a few years...
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  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,253
    goldrush wrote: »
    This track is to Silverchair what Chris Cornell's 'Scream' was to Soundgarden. Maybe that means we'll see a King-Animal-style reunion for Silverchair in a few years...

    lets hope you are right, but honestly I doubt it. Chris Cornell never belittled his earlier work, and I imagine remained proud of each chapter. The same cannot be said of Daniel

    And with the new track sounding like just the kind of crap the radio loves these days it'll probably be a mass hit destined for supermarket speakers and dance remixes for years to come.
  • pdalowsky
    pdalowsky Doncaster,UK Posts: 15,253
    2-feign-reluctance wrote: »
    Allow me to clarify. I'm not saying their first record was like Nickleback. I was saying they released dynamic new stuff to avoid releasing the same kind of record over and over, like Nickleback. Not a stylistic comparison by any means.

    I still don't understand, Silverchair evolved pretty solidly within the rock bracket throughout their careers, always within the same genre, pretty much like the majority of bands do. This solo effort is just baffling however to a fan who has enjoyed pretty much everything he has made, of course its his right to do so, and I would hope he continues to experience success. I accepted a long time ago Silverchair are long gone, much in the way I did Powderfinger also..... At least Fannings solo record wasn't a terrible departure.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Fair enough. Guess I'm not explaining myself all that well. Carry on....
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  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    Ariel Love proves Daniel Johns has huge balls
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  • FrankY59
    FrankY59 Posts: 1,052
    Soooooo what just happened?!
  • WaveRyder
    WaveRyder Posts: 1,128
    edited March 2015
    In the 8 or 9 years since YM, he said he's written like 300 tracks, of all genres. Prepare for more weird off the wall sounds coming from him. He's got chops and courage. I dig his creativity and willingness to experiment and put himself out there.
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  • FrankY59
    FrankY59 Posts: 1,052
    I actually dug his Dissociative's material with Paul Mac. I think people mistake changing one's sound as a bad thing...it's just evolving. Frogstomp is written in the eyes of a 15 year old whereas Young Modern is completely different people ie matured.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,499
    I have no qualms with changing one's sound... but when that change isn't good...
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,499
    That said, I really enjoyed Straight Lines, Those Thieving Birds (etc), and Low. The rest of the album is just not my taste whatseover.
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  • Champagne Breakfast
    Champagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    20 years of Silverchair special -- article on alternative nation today...
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,025
    Daniel is simply amazing ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • FrankY59
    FrankY59 Posts: 1,052
    I am listening to Young Modern past few days after a multi year hiatus...it really is a very good album.  I liked it then and still now.  I can’t even describe it, just...quirky.  Anything new from Daniel as of late?! 
  • No Coder
    No Coder Brisbane Posts: 1,126
    He has done a song with a producer, What So Not, but I wasn't impressed, unless you liked his solo album, I can't see Silverchair fans liking it. 
    Young Modern is  great album though - completely agree
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Great reminder to get this album out again 
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  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,562
    edited February 2018
    It would nearly be my favourite Silverchair album. Still dig a lot of their early stuff but Young Modern set a pretty high bar! I remember listening to it the first time and when If You Keep Losing Sleep came on I just smiled. Those
    Thieving Birds is also right up there! 
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