So let me get this straight... the WWE Champ beats Cena once, only with the help of Jon Stewart, and then within a month Cena beats the champ twice clean!?!?!
So let me get this straight... the WWE Champ beats Cena once, only with the help of Jon Stewart, and then within a month Cena beats the champ twice clean!?!?!
Brilliant booking!
it's what's best for business
also Bipolar Kane and Xavier Woods with the trombone are pretty funny
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
was out and missed the NXT takeover. will watch it probably sometime this weekend
The main event was good but not as good as NXT Brooklyn. Some of the spots last night looked really forced to me.
And what's up with fans crying over wrestling? I really don't get it. These people make a great living doing what they love it's not like they are war veterans or something.
Coming from someone who wants to watch periodically, but really cant get into it... it wont work.
WWE framed as serious competition/sport is dumb.
What they need is to frame it as they have all the 'intention' of having a legitimate competition, but all the heels keep cheating and doing evil things from keeping actual fair competition from taking place. The envelope needs to be pushed, and a partnership with ESPN certainly wont result in that.
Its very tough. There is limited to no competitor to WWE. A lot of these guys seem to have more ability to walk away if they want and not be lifetime slaves to the McMahons. 95% of ex wrestlers dying so early has taken a lot of wind out of sails and is probably a wake-up call to participants and potential participants... the old guard who carried the thing from the 80s into the 90s and 00s is almost completely gone now. The new guys just dont have the history, nastalgia, or excitement.
Raw is un-watchable to me. I read the results and instead watch the WWE Network (old PPVs, countdowns, Table for 3, Legends w/ JBL and Rivalries are all really good).
My predictions: Rusev, King Barret and Sheamus over Cesaro, Neville, and Dolph Ziggler Roman Reigns over Bray Wyatt (HIAC match) Brock Lesnar over The Undertaker (HIAC match) Seth Rollins over Kane Dudley Boyz over New Day (don't think this will happen though, more of a hope) Charlotte over Nikki Bella Kevin Owens over Ryback John Cena over mystery opponent. I think it might be someone from NXT like Tyler Breeze or maybe Finn Balor.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
My predictions: Rusev, King Barret and Sheamus over Cesaro, Neville, and Dolph Ziggler Roman Reigns over Bray Wyatt (HIAC match) Brock Lesnar over The Undertaker (HIAC match) Seth Rollins over Kane Dudley Boyz over New Day (don't think this will happen though, more of a hope) Charlotte over Nikki Bella Kevin Owens over Ryback John Cena over mystery opponent. I think it might be someone from NXT like Tyler Breeze or maybe Finn Balor.
Not sure about that six man tag. For main show, I'm going: Reigns BROCK by destruction Rollins in a shitty match (I love the guy, but he's book pretty terribly) Dudleys (they can't have New Day win every time. I think they drop it tonight and win it back in a month or two) Charlotte Owens and then he can move on to someone worthwhile Cena loses to mystery opponent which I hope is Kofi or DB
JBL said Hogan when he was talking about past champions. Other than Edge and Christian saying he was their favorite wrestler. I don't think I've heard his name mentioned. Hopefully that's a good sign
My predictions: Rusev, King Barret and Sheamus over Cesaro, Neville, and Dolph Ziggler Roman Reigns over Bray Wyatt (HIAC match) Brock Lesnar over The Undertaker (HIAC match) Seth Rollins over Kane Dudley Boyz over New Day (don't think this will happen though, more of a hope) Charlotte over Nikki Bella Kevin Owens over Ryback John Cena over mystery opponent. I think it might be someone from NXT like Tyler Breeze or maybe Finn Balor.
Not sure about that six man tag. For main show, I'm going: Reigns BROCK by destruction Rollins in a shitty match (I love the guy, but he's book pretty terribly) Dudleys (they can't have New Day win every time. I think they drop it tonight and win it back in a month or two) Charlotte Owens and then he can move on to someone worthwhile Cena loses to mystery opponent which I hope is Kofi or DB
- Daniel Bryan- who vacates due to injury - John Cena- DB replacement who no one wanted to watch have the belt again - Brock Lesnar- barely shows up - Seth Rollins- who vacates due to injury
Comments
Brilliant booking!
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
also Bipolar Kane and Xavier Woods with the trombone are pretty funny
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
Looking forward to Brock taking the Big Show to Suplex City.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
And what's up with fans crying over wrestling? I really don't get it. These people make a great living doing what they love it's not like they are war veterans or something.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
Hopefully it works, but i dunno.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
WWE framed as serious competition/sport is dumb.
What they need is to frame it as they have all the 'intention' of having a legitimate competition, but all the heels keep cheating and doing evil things from keeping actual fair competition from taking place. The envelope needs to be pushed, and a partnership with ESPN certainly wont result in that.
Its very tough. There is limited to no competitor to WWE. A lot of these guys seem to have more ability to walk away if they want and not be lifetime slaves to the McMahons. 95% of ex wrestlers dying so early has taken a lot of wind out of sails and is probably a wake-up call to participants and potential participants... the old guard who carried the thing from the 80s into the 90s and 00s is almost completely gone now. The new guys just dont have the history, nastalgia, or excitement.
3 hour Raws are untenable too.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
My predictions:
Rusev, King Barret and Sheamus over Cesaro, Neville, and Dolph Ziggler
Roman Reigns over Bray Wyatt (HIAC match)
Brock Lesnar over The Undertaker (HIAC match)
Seth Rollins over Kane
Dudley Boyz over New Day (don't think this will happen though, more of a hope)
Charlotte over Nikki Bella
Kevin Owens over Ryback
John Cena over mystery opponent. I think it might be someone from NXT like Tyler Breeze or maybe Finn Balor.
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
For main show, I'm going:
Reigns
BROCK by destruction
Rollins in a shitty match (I love the guy, but he's book pretty terribly)
Dudleys (they can't have New Day win every time. I think they drop it tonight and win it back in a month or two)
Charlotte
Owens and then he can move on to someone worthwhile
Cena loses to mystery opponent which I hope is Kofi or DB
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly
Good PPV overall. RAW was really good too.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
There goes Rollins/Triple H at Mania.
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
- Daniel Bryan- who vacates due to injury
- John Cena- DB replacement who no one wanted to watch have the belt again
- Brock Lesnar- barely shows up
- Seth Rollins- who vacates due to injury
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17