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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,622
    edited January 2014
    Oof. thats going to be a tough one for them to overcome.

    I agree with him and Foley. These "part timers" always coming in for key roles in the big events is stupid. Dont know why they didnt have Bryan. Could have been a good opportunity for Batista to still win, but draw complete ire of WWE fans toward someone. Typical formula. Bryan comes in, clean house, it looks like he is going to win, and a "good guy" they want people to turn on cheats and eliminates Bryan. Then Batista wins. If they didnt want people to hate Batista, you have him challenge/attack the assailant the following night.

    I dont really watch (as it is too predictable and 3 hour Raws are a joke). But these events really caught me and it seems they really botched this one.
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    I'm sure he will be back. Gonna hurt Wrestlemania though
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,413
    Definitely a blow to WM, if it's not a work. Other than that, I think Punk is incredibly overrated. If it is a work, it seems like a desperate rehash to get Punk to reach that peak he had a couple years ago.

    His beef with part timers is fair, but if he got the reaction that The Rock and Lesnar got, maybe WWE wouldn't need them.

    Batista hasn't worked out very well so far, though. He was popular as a wrestler, but never on the level of the others and has had no success outside of WWE to grab the casual fans.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,951
    I get why the current fans are pissed about the part timers, but as a person who loved the WWE up until like 2002, the only reason I will come back and watch it is to see The Rock and Lesnar and Triple H. Never liked Cena, Orton or Batista so it just wasn't worth watching anymore.
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    I get why the current fans are pissed about the part timers, but as a person who loved the WWE up until like 2002, the only reason I will come back and watch it is to see The Rock and Lesnar and Triple H. Never liked Cena, Orton or Batista so it just wasn't worth watching anymore.

    Orton is insufferable. Just the absolute worst. And really, they need so-called "part-timers" from the past because Wrestlemania is unwatchable without them. Undertaker is a part-timer at this point, but take away his matches at the last 5 WMs and the cards are trash. Rock is a part-timer but his presence popped the Wrestlemania buyrates huge the last three years. If Batista is anywhere near the final match of the night, it'll suck. If they insist in putting him in a title match then whatever. But it can't be the main-event. Personally, I'd like something more than just a one on one match. Maybe a tag in a nod to the first wrestlemania. The dream match for me is Punk and Bryan against HHH and Shawn Michaels. \

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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,951

    I get why the current fans are pissed about the part timers, but as a person who loved the WWE up until like 2002, the only reason I will come back and watch it is to see The Rock and Lesnar and Triple H. Never liked Cena, Orton or Batista so it just wasn't worth watching anymore.

    Orton is insufferable. Just the absolute worst. And really, they need so-called "part-timers" from the past because Wrestlemania is unwatchable without them. Undertaker is a part-timer at this point, but take away his matches at the last 5 WMs and the cards are trash. Rock is a part-timer but his presence popped the Wrestlemania buyrates huge the last three years. If Batista is anywhere near the final match of the night, it'll suck. If they insist in putting him in a title match then whatever. But it can't be the main-event. Personally, I'd like something more than just a one on one match. Maybe a tag in a nod to the first wrestlemania. The dream match for me is Punk and Bryan against HHH and Shawn Michaels. \

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    I'm not surprised 13 is so low. Taker/Sid main event was so lame even though Stone Cold/Bret was insanely good.
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    MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,622
    watching it a couple times in the past year, it just doesnt have it any longer. The characters and storylines just have nothing engaging. Also, WWE no longer seems willing, motivated, (and probably able) to push the envelope. I looked at #17 to see what that was, and man.... that was the shit.

    None of the characters now do anything and they all really blend together. I thought CM Punk was the only one with a strong enough personality to be a "heel" that draws everyone in. The issue is, everyone is so desperate to see that kind of element, he becomes an unimpeachable fan favorite. Everyone else is blah. Im not even a Daniel Bryan fan. He reminds me of a more relevant Spike Dudley. Cena/Batista/Orton are all bores.

    I dont see WWE ever getting back. As the old favorites continue to be non-serviceable, its going to get worse.

    I think maybe they need to roll back and make it into a "kids" thing again like it was in the 80s. Then grow it from the bottom-up over a decade or 2. Maybe even quietly finance an "underground" type of thing like ECW.
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229

    this was pretty awesome from RAW last night. Someone added the "over meter". The crowd was really into it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir0Nkjh5zyM

    instead of "hey" during Alive we should chant YES!!! :))

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAwo66rNte0
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    PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,154
    This whole CM Punk/Daniel Bryan situation fascinates me as an old fan. Sadly, WWE failed to capitalize on it. I tuned into the Raw to see how they would follow up and was bored to death. I made it through 90 minutes before turning it over to Full Throttle Saloon on Tru TV.

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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    RIP Nelson Frazier Jr. (aka Big Daddy V, Mabel, Viscera) 43, heart attack

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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    WWE network starts tomorrow! Elimination Chamber tonight :D
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    WWE Network is here!

    Hulk Hogan coming back for WM XXX (hosting)
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,778
    Went to Raw last night with my little cousin since his dad refuses to take him. Used to love this shit, but haven't watched much past few years. Shocked that CM Punk wasn't there last night. That place was ready to explode. I forgot how good the people watching at WWE events is!
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    edited March 2014

    Went to Raw last night with my little cousin since his dad refuses to take him. Used to love this shit, but haven't watched much past few years. Shocked that CM Punk wasn't there last night. That place was ready to explode. I forgot how good the people watching at WWE events is!

    awesome man!

    Punk left after the Royal Rumble, I knew Punk wasn't gonna show up, although there were rumors that he might (part of me was hoping though). Would have been better if Punk's music hit then Bad News Barrett Came down and said "I've got some bad news for ya" :))

    The first half of RAW was fantastic. USO's winning the belts :) The Shield vs The Wyatt Family was great. Seth Rollins was fantastic with his maneuvers and landing on his feet. Looks like they are maybe setting up for a triple threat match between the Shield members?

    Confirmed WM matches:

    Randy Orton vs Batista :-<
    Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker

    not confirmed yet matches/my guesses:
    Daniel Bryan vs HHH (if Bryan wins he gets a show at the WWE title later)
    John Cena vs Bray Wyatt
    Roman Reigns vs Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins
    Big E vs Antonio Cesaro vs Jack Swagger (for the IC belt)
    The Uso's vs Erick Rowan & Luke Harper
    Sheamus vs Christian (No DQ Match)
    Mark Henry & Big Show vs New Age Outlaws
    Cody Rhodes vs Goldust (???)
    The Bella Twins vs AJ Lee & Natalya (or some kind of diva's tag team match)
    Alberto Del Rio vs Dolph Ziggler

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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    I have not watched much WWF in the last decade but the new WWF network is going to be amazing to see how it developed, whether you follow wrestling or not. This could be the vanguard on the end of cable and dish tv. PPV has found a way to cut out the middle man.

    I'm sure UFC and boxing ... Well maybe not boxing because corruption leads to stupidity ... But surely the UFC is monitoring how this shakes out.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    Wow. The network is pretty amazing. Looks great on PS4!
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,786
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    Jason P said:

    I have not watched much WWF in the last decade but the new WWF network is going to be amazing to see how it developed, whether you follow wrestling or not. This could be the vanguard on the end of cable and dish tv. PPV has found a way to cut out the middle man.

    I'm sure UFC and boxing ... Well maybe not boxing because corruption leads to stupidity ... But surely the UFC is monitoring how this shakes out.

    well no one has watched the WWF in the past ten or so years ;)
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    edited April 2014
    Hall Of Fame ceremonies were last night, pretty cool, kinda long though. Tonight is Wrestlemania XXX :D

    My Predictions:

    Daniel Bryan over Triple H
    Randy Orton over Batista and Daniel Bryan (Bryan gets screwed somehow)
    Undertaker over Brock Lesnar (not this year and def. not to Brock)
    Bray Wyatt over John Cena
    The Shield over Kane & The New Age Outlaws
    The Uso's over The Real Americans, Rybaxel, and Los Matadores
    The Big Show wins the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
    AJ Lee wins the Vickie Guerrero's Divas Championhship Invitational

    CM Punk will be there and get involved in either the Undertaker/Lesnar match or the triple threat main event
    Sting makes an appearance.

    We know Hogan, Rock, and Austin will be there. Curious as to see what they do if anything.
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    DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,413
    My Predictions:

    Daniel Bryan over Triple H and Orton/Batista...can't decide if Punk returns and hoses HHH or Bryan, but I'm leaning this way, b/c I they'll wanna end the show on a big positive

    Undertaker over Brock Lesnar....Sting gets a sneak preview tonight and debuts tomorrow, not sure if he'll fight his way to WMXXXI or if they'll set up a Taker match for next year.

    Bray Wyatt over John Cena hopefully
    The Shield over Kane & The New Age Outlaws...but maybe a turn from one of the Shield guys
    The Uso's over The Real Americans, Rybaxel, and Los Matadores
    Andre battle royal.....eh, who cares, but probably Big Show or Sheamus, who will probably get stunnered afterwards
    AJ Lee wins the Vickie Guerrero's Divas Championhship Invitational


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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,786
    Bryan beats Triple H but Triple H beats the shit out of him with a sledgehammer afterwards and Bryan is replaced in the main-event by Mr. T's mom who pins Orton with a small package for the title.
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,543
    I wonder if Lita enters the invitational. And A.J. faces her idol
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    2 and a half hours to go, I'm pretty excited. Don't follow WWE as much anymore but really enjoy watching the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania every year, even if i have to stay up until 4am!
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    Awesome way to start w/ Hogan, Rock and Austin in the same ring. Even w/ Hogan screwing up where they were.

    Dewie, looks like we just about have the same predictions with the exception of the main event. Rooting for Daniel Bryan though :)
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    edited April 2014
    Wow, battle royal was great! Cesaro slamming Big Show over the top rope :-O

    Daniel Bryan and Triple H match was good.

    Shield match was ok, glad they won, dominated Kane and New Age Outlaws.

    apparently i missed the pre-match tag team titles, i was out. glad the uso's won
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
    The Streak is over!!!! :-O Didn't think it was gonna happen.
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,229
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    Undertaker match was a shame. Lesner?????

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