Maher does realize that there was no salary cap this year and there is no guarantee that a salary cap will ever return to football right?
It's not like every team has the same payroll. The difference is not as dramatic as in baseball but the Raiders payroll this year was 70 million more than the Chiefs.
Give the NFL time and if no salary cap is put in place and the haves and haves not will emerge.
Just a bit off topic, but, Solat13, is your avatar a real sticker? I have never seen one and that is awesome!
It is a real sticker. I have one on the back window of my truck.
I read somewhere that someone was saying Arod wouldn't eat a Snickers because of what it would do to his body. Didn't Arod claim to not know what he was injecting?
His contract is amazing but Albert Pujols will top it. Word is 10 years/$300M, and he is currently 31 from what I was just told.
Not solely directed at you, but I don't understand why people blame athletes for making such high salaries. The money is there for the taking and the fans and society pay, so why blame them?
I read somewhere that someone was saying Arod wouldn't eat a Snickers because of what it would do to his body. Didn't Arod claim to not know what he was injecting?
His contract is amazing but Albert Pujols will top it. Word is 10 years/$300M, and he is currently 31 from what I was just told.
I am going to puke.
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Not solely directed at you, but I don't understand why people blame athletes for making such high salaries. The money is there for the taking and the fans and society pay, so why blame them?
I read somewhere that someone was saying Arod wouldn't eat a Snickers because of what it would do to his body. Didn't Arod claim to not know what he was injecting?
His contract is amazing but Albert Pujols will top it. Word is 10 years/$300M, and he is currently 31 from what I was just told.
I am going to puke.
I'm not blaming athletes, actors, or musicians. I understand the entertainment industry. I realize there is an element of supply and demand. However, I still feel the system is backwards. And there's this: think about all the other places where this money could go. feeding underprivileged children, education, infrastructure, parks, rec. areas, federal grants for research on heart disease and cancer, and on and on.
For a family of four to go to a game at Yankee Stadium costs a disgusting amount. paying these players less brings down the costs on game tickets, merchandise, etc. Pump the money back into the system to make life better for all, not just those that can put a round ball through a hoop. (Here come the socialist accusations). http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework ... 01075.html http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/07/0 ... tainme.htm
Tax the teams and tax the players making tens of millions of dollars. Put the money to some good use. Some will say that I am attacking capitalism. I dare not piss on the bible. I'm tired. Good night.
Well albeit a great and nice idea, this isn't the society or civilization we live in. No one cares because if they did, the world as we see it wouldn't exist as it does.
'm not blaming athletes, actors, or musicians. I understand the entertainment industry. I realize there is an element of supply and demand. However, I still feel the system is backwards. And there's this: think about all the other places where this money could go. feeding underprivileged children, education, infrastructure, parks, rec. areas, federal grants for research on heart disease and cancer, and on and on.
For a family of four to go to a game at Yankee Stadium costs a disgusting amount. paying these players less brings down the costs on game tickets, merchandise, etc. Pump the money back into the system to make life better for all, not just those that can put a round ball through a hoop. (Here come the socialist accusations). http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework ... 01075.html http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/07/0 ... tainme.htm
Tax the teams and tax the players making tens of millions of dollars. Put the money to some good use. Some will say that I am attacking capitalism. I dare not piss on the bible. I'm tired. Good night.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Not solely directed at you, but I don't understand why people blame athletes for making such high salaries. The money is there for the taking and the fans and society pay, so why blame them?
Not solely directed at you, but I don't understand why people blame athletes for making such high salaries. The money is there for the taking and the fans and society pay, so why blame them?
Jealousy.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
New Rule: With the Super Bowl only a week away, Americans must realize what makes NFL football so great: socialism. That's right, for all the F-15 flyovers and flag waving, football is our most successful sport because the NFL takes money from the rich teams and gives it to the poor teams... just like President Obama wants to do with his secret army of ACORN volunteers. Green Bay, Wisconsin has a population of 100,000. Yet this sleepy little town on the banks of the Fuck-if-I-know River has just as much of a chance of making it to the Super Bowl as the New York Jets - who next year need to just shut the hell up and play.
Now, me personally, I haven't watched a Super Bowl since 2004, when Janet Jackson's nipple popped out during half time, and that split-second glimpse of an unrestrained black titty burned my eyes and offended me as a Christian. But I get it - who doesn't love the spectacle of juiced-up millionaires giving each other brain damage on a giant flat-screen TV with a picture so realistic it feels like Ben Roethlisberger is in your living room, grabbing your sister?
It's no surprise that some 100 million Americans will watch the Super Bowl next week - that's 40 million more than go to church on Christmas - suck on that, Jesus! It's also 85 million more than watched the last game of the World Series, and in that is an economic lesson for America. Because football is built on an economic model of fairness and opportunity, and baseball is built on a model where the rich almost always win and the poor usually have no chance. The World Series is like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You have to be a rich bitch just to play. The Super Bowl is like Tila Tequila. Anyone can get in.
Or to put it another way, football is more like the Democratic philosophy. Democrats don't want to eliminate capitalism or competition, but they'd like it if some kids didn't have to go to a crummy school in a rotten neighborhood while others get to go to a great school and their Dad gets them into Harvard. Because when that happens "achieving the American dream" is easy for some, and just a fantasy for others.
That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success."
Baseball, on the other hand, is exactly like the Republicans, and I don't just mean it's incredibly boring. I mean their economic theory is every man for himself. The small market Pittsburgh Steelers go to the Super Bowl more than anybody - but the Pittsburgh Pirates? Levi Johnston has sperm that will not grow up and live long enough to see the Pirates in a World Series. Their payroll is about $40 million, and the Yankees is $206 million. They have about as much chance at getting in the playoffs as a poor black teenager from Newark has of becoming the CEO of Halliburton. That's why people stop going to Pirate games in May, because if you're not in the game, you become indifferent to the fate of the game, and maybe even get bitter - that's what's happening to the middle class in America. It's also how Marie Antoinette lost her head.
So, you kind of have to laugh - the same angry white males who hate Obama because he's "redistributing wealth" just love football, a sport that succeeds economically because it does exactly that. To them, the NFL is as American as hot dogs, Chevrolet, apple pie, and a second, giant helping of apple pie. But then again, they think they're macho because their sport is football, when honestly - is there anything gayer than wearing another man's shirt?
Whether you like him or hate him, Maher does have a point here.
I could be wrong here, but they distribute the TV revenue equally. Do they distribute the gate receipts, parking, concessions, luxury box, merchandise, etc equally?
When players are cut or released they don't keep paying them past the current season, baseball players are sometimes paid the balance of the contract, that never happens in football.
They also don't distribute the payroll equally, you have some very rich players and some not so very rich players. I really don't see the comparison. Green Bay and Pittsburgh, I think are poor examples, they are 2 very popular teams that sell out very large stadiums weekly and have a huge far following where ever they go. For every Pittsburgh and Green Bay, there is a Jacksonville or Carolina teams which have had mild success at times.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
New Rule: With the Super Bowl only a week away, Americans must realize what makes NFL football so great: socialism. That's right, for all the F-15 flyovers and flag waving, football is our most successful sport because the NFL takes money from the rich teams and gives it to the poor teams... just like President Obama wants to do with his secret army of ACORN volunteers. Green Bay, Wisconsin has a population of 100,000. Yet this sleepy little town on the banks of the Fuck-if-I-know River has just as much of a chance of making it to the Super Bowl as the New York Jets - who next year need to just shut the hell up and play.
Now, me personally, I haven't watched a Super Bowl since 2004, when Janet Jackson's nipple popped out during half time, and that split-second glimpse of an unrestrained black titty burned my eyes and offended me as a Christian. But I get it - who doesn't love the spectacle of juiced-up millionaires giving each other brain damage on a giant flat-screen TV with a picture so realistic it feels like Ben Roethlisberger is in your living room, grabbing your sister?
It's no surprise that some 100 million Americans will watch the Super Bowl next week - that's 40 million more than go to church on Christmas - suck on that, Jesus! It's also 85 million more than watched the last game of the World Series, and in that is an economic lesson for America. Because football is built on an economic model of fairness and opportunity, and baseball is built on a model where the rich almost always win and the poor usually have no chance. The World Series is like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You have to be a rich bitch just to play. The Super Bowl is like Tila Tequila. Anyone can get in.
Or to put it another way, football is more like the Democratic philosophy. Democrats don't want to eliminate capitalism or competition, but they'd like it if some kids didn't have to go to a crummy school in a rotten neighborhood while others get to go to a great school and their Dad gets them into Harvard. Because when that happens "achieving the American dream" is easy for some, and just a fantasy for others.
That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success."
Baseball, on the other hand, is exactly like the Republicans, and I don't just mean it's incredibly boring. I mean their economic theory is every man for himself. The small market Pittsburgh Steelers go to the Super Bowl more than anybody - but the Pittsburgh Pirates? Levi Johnston has sperm that will not grow up and live long enough to see the Pirates in a World Series. Their payroll is about $40 million, and the Yankees is $206 million. They have about as much chance at getting in the playoffs as a poor black teenager from Newark has of becoming the CEO of Halliburton. That's why people stop going to Pirate games in May, because if you're not in the game, you become indifferent to the fate of the game, and maybe even get bitter - that's what's happening to the middle class in America. It's also how Marie Antoinette lost her head.
So, you kind of have to laugh - the same angry white males who hate Obama because he's "redistributing wealth" just love football, a sport that succeeds economically because it does exactly that. To them, the NFL is as American as hot dogs, Chevrolet, apple pie, and a second, giant helping of apple pie. But then again, they think they're macho because their sport is football, when honestly - is there anything gayer than wearing another man's shirt?
Whether you like him or hate him, Maher does have a point here.
I could be wrong here, but they distribute the TV revenue equally. Do they distribute the gate receipts, parking, concessions, luxury box, merchandise, etc equally?
When players are cut or released they don't keep paying them past the current season, baseball players are sometimes paid the balance of the contract, that never happens in football.
They also don't distribute the payroll equally, you have some very rich players and some not so very rich players. I really don't see the comparison. Green Bay and Pittsburgh, I think are poor examples, they are 2 very popular teams that sell out very large stadiums weekly and have a huge far following where ever they go. For every Pittsburgh and Green Bay, there is a Jacksonville or Carolina teams which have had mild success at times.
New Rule: With the Super Bowl only a week away, Americans must realize what makes NFL football so great: socialism. That's right, for all the F-15 flyovers and flag waving, football is our most successful sport because the NFL takes money from the rich teams and gives it to the poor teams... just like President Obama wants to do with his secret army of ACORN volunteers. Green Bay, Wisconsin has a population of 100,000. Yet this sleepy little town on the banks of the Fuck-if-I-know River has just as much of a chance of making it to the Super Bowl as the New York Jets - who next year need to just shut the hell up and play.
Now, me personally, I haven't watched a Super Bowl since 2004, when Janet Jackson's nipple popped out during half time, and that split-second glimpse of an unrestrained black titty burned my eyes and offended me as a Christian. But I get it - who doesn't love the spectacle of juiced-up millionaires giving each other brain damage on a giant flat-screen TV with a picture so realistic it feels like Ben Roethlisberger is in your living room, grabbing your sister?
It's no surprise that some 100 million Americans will watch the Super Bowl next week - that's 40 million more than go to church on Christmas - suck on that, Jesus! It's also 85 million more than watched the last game of the World Series, and in that is an economic lesson for America. Because football is built on an economic model of fairness and opportunity, and baseball is built on a model where the rich almost always win and the poor usually have no chance. The World Series is like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You have to be a rich bitch just to play. The Super Bowl is like Tila Tequila. Anyone can get in.
Or to put it another way, football is more like the Democratic philosophy. Democrats don't want to eliminate capitalism or competition, but they'd like it if some kids didn't have to go to a crummy school in a rotten neighborhood while others get to go to a great school and their Dad gets them into Harvard. Because when that happens "achieving the American dream" is easy for some, and just a fantasy for others.
That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success."
Baseball, on the other hand, is exactly like the Republicans, and I don't just mean it's incredibly boring. I mean their economic theory is every man for himself. The small market Pittsburgh Steelers go to the Super Bowl more than anybody - but the Pittsburgh Pirates? Levi Johnston has sperm that will not grow up and live long enough to see the Pirates in a World Series. Their payroll is about $40 million, and the Yankees is $206 million. They have about as much chance at getting in the playoffs as a poor black teenager from Newark has of becoming the CEO of Halliburton. That's why people stop going to Pirate games in May, because if you're not in the game, you become indifferent to the fate of the game, and maybe even get bitter - that's what's happening to the middle class in America. It's also how Marie Antoinette lost her head.
So, you kind of have to laugh - the same angry white males who hate Obama because he's "redistributing wealth" just love football, a sport that succeeds economically because it does exactly that. To them, the NFL is as American as hot dogs, Chevrolet, apple pie, and a second, giant helping of apple pie. But then again, they think they're macho because their sport is football, when honestly - is there anything gayer than wearing another man's shirt?
Whether you like him or hate him, Maher does have a point here.
I could be wrong here, but they distribute the TV revenue equally. Do they distribute the gate receipts, parking, concessions, luxury box, merchandise, etc equally?
When players are cut or released they don't keep paying them past the current season, baseball players are sometimes paid the balance of the contract, that never happens in football.
They also don't distribute the payroll equally, you have some very rich players and some not so very rich players. I really don't see the comparison. Green Bay and Pittsburgh, I think are poor examples, they are 2 very popular teams that sell out very large stadiums weekly and have a huge far following where ever they go. For every Pittsburgh and Green Bay, there is a Jacksonville or Carolina teams which have had mild success at times.
don't think mahr is a sports fan...
I agree. But using Green Bay and Pittsburgh are the wrong examples of small market teams. As much as Jerry wanted the Cowboys in the Super Bowl he really won by getting this match up and so did the city of Dallas, from what I understand these 2 teams have a huge amount of fans that follow them on the road. Should be a great game.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I agree. But using Green Bay and Pittsburgh are the wrong examples of small market teams. As much as Jerry wanted the Cowboys in the Super Bowl he really won by getting this match up and so did the city of Dallas, from what I understand these 2 teams have a huge amount of fans that follow them on the road. Should be a great game.
They teams do travel well, but I'm sure the ticket scalpers were hoping for a New York vs. Chicago matchup as there are big spenders in those cities. I read an article that GB / Pitt residents are only accounting for 1% of the buyers on sites like stub-hub. They said tickets were averaging between $3K - $7K. Hell, even the $200 tickets to sit outside the stadium were going for double.
I'm not blaming athletes, actors, or musicians. I understand the entertainment industry. I realize there is an element of supply and demand. However, I still feel the system is backwards. And there's this: think about all the other places where this money could go. feeding underprivileged children, education, infrastructure, parks, rec. areas, federal grants for research on heart disease and cancer, and on and on.
For a family of four to go to a game at Yankee Stadium costs a disgusting amount. paying these players less brings down the costs on game tickets, merchandise, etc. Pump the money back into the system to make life better for all, not just those that can put a round ball through a hoop. (Here come the socialist accusations). http://www.algebra.com/algebra/homework ... 01075.html http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/07/0 ... tainme.htm
Tax the teams and tax the players making tens of millions of dollars. Put the money to some good use. Some will say that I am attacking capitalism. I dare not piss on the bible. I'm tired. Good night.
Well, at least the majority of those athletes do all the can to recycle that money right back into the economy. It's amazing how fast they go broke once their playing days are over. And Uncle Sam gets a nice cut which is then put into a lot of the projects you mentioned above.
I alway thought it was weird that Plaxico was sent to jail. Instead of having him earn several millions of dollars FOR THE STATE OF NY, they instead chose to incarcerate him at the expense of the tax dollars. And isn't shooting yourself punishment enough?
I agree. But using Green Bay and Pittsburgh are the wrong examples of small market teams. As much as Jerry wanted the Cowboys in the Super Bowl he really won by getting this match up and so did the city of Dallas, from what I understand these 2 teams have a huge amount of fans that follow them on the road. Should be a great game.
They teams do travel well, but I'm sure the ticket scalpers were hoping for a New York vs. Chicago matchup as there are big spenders in those cities. I read an article that GB / Pitt residents are only accounting for 1% of the buyers on sites like stub-hub. They said tickets were averaging between $3K - $7K. Hell, even the $200 tickets to sit outside the stadium were going for double.
I thought there would be far more fans from those cities, but the way the economy is! Yes I have to agree Chicago and New York would have meant big time spending. For the fans it's a good match up though.
Seriously, they are charging $200 to sit outside? Thats crazy.
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Recently read that over the last 25 years - 76.6% (23 of 30) of baseball teams have made the World Series while 71% of NFL teams have made it to the superbowl. mmmmmmm
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Not solely directed at you, but I don't understand why people blame athletes for making such high salaries. The money is there for the taking and the fans and society pay, so why blame them?
Jealousy.
Not true. I blame the system, not the athletes. I just don't think that professional sports should be the racket that it is. There "jobs" aren't that important, at least not as important as doctors, nurses, EMTs, policemen, firemen, teachers, etc.................
And for whoever said that many of the athletes give back......I would guarantee that it is a small percentage.
Not solely directed at you, but I don't understand why people blame athletes for making such high salaries. The money is there for the taking and the fans and society pay, so why blame them?
Jealousy.
Not true. I blame the system, not the athletes. I just don't think that professional sports should be the racket that it is. There "jobs" aren't that important, at least not as important as doctors, nurses, EMTs, policemen, firemen, teachers, etc.................
And for whoever said that many of the athletes give back......I would guarantee that it is a small percentage.
what is wrong with entertainment? no one comes to your home and forces you to watch a football game or baseball game, no one forces anyone to buy tickets, it is entertainment and the athletes should be able to reap the rewards that come with entertaining the masses.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
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What is wrong with entertainment? Nothing. And no, noone forces me to watch, and I don't. I am done with the MLB, NBA, NFL, etc.
My POINT is that there is an extreme lack of balance to what professional athlete get paid. Simple.
IN MY OPINION, I don't think that athletes, actors, musicians, should be making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year. the money can go to better use. I do not support what I see in the entertainment industry. I do not feel that these individuals should be making the money that they make. I am fine with 3-5 million dollars a year; I understand how the entertainment industry works. It makes me sick though, to see the salaries of these individuals, when people, when kids are suffering in this country. let's get our priorities straight. i do not support it, and I never will
What is wrong with entertainment? Nothing. And no, noone forces me to watch, and I don't. I am done with the MLB, NBA, NFL, etc.
My POINT is that there is an extreme lack of balance to what professional athlete get paid. Simple.
IN MY OPINION, I don't think that athletes, actors, musicians, should be making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year. the money can go to better use. I do not support what I see in the entertainment industry. I do not feel that these individuals should be making the money that they make. I am fine with 3-5 million dollars a year; I understand how the entertainment industry works. It makes me sick though, to see the salaries of these individuals, when people, when kids are suffering in this country. let's get our priorities straight. i do not support it, and I never will
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
You can't simply look at the results of sports to then somehow justify it's "fairness". Teams succeed or fail despite an unlevel playing field based on revenue stream and economics... not solely because of it.
Recently read that over the last 25 years - 76.6% (23 of 30) of baseball teams have made the World Series while 71% of NFL teams have made it to the superbowl. mmmmmmm
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
You can't simply look at the results of sports to then somehow justify it's "fairness". Teams succeed or fail despite an unlevel playing field based on revenue stream and economics... not solely because of it.
Recently read that over the last 25 years - 76.6% (23 of 30) of baseball teams have made the World Series while 71% of NFL teams have made it to the superbowl. mmmmmmm
Well what you going to look at. The results (the facts) conflict with Maher's points about baseball/football. I actually knew he was way off base when I was watching it live last Friday night.
You seem to be missing the overall point... simply stated that the playing field is skewed in favor of big market teams due to their access to revenue. That shift regardless of outcomes and success means the playing field is not level for all. In the NFL because of the salary cap, the playing field is balanced. Teams in any sport find ways to succeed regardless of their revenue if they're savvy enough, but that does not account for the basic in-equality to begin with. For example, it would be like saying racism does not exist simply because Obama became president...which is an obviously ridiculous belief. It's no different in sports.. simply because the Marlins can win the World Series, doesn't mean the MLB has a balanced playing field.
You can't simply look at the results of sports to then somehow justify it's "fairness". Teams succeed or fail despite an unlevel playing field based on revenue stream and economics... not solely because of it.
Recently read that over the last 25 years - 76.6% (23 of 30) of baseball teams have made the World Series while 71% of NFL teams have made it to the superbowl. mmmmmmm
Well what you going to look at. The results (the facts) conflict with Maher's points about baseball/football. I actually knew he was way off base when I was watching it live last Friday night.
CONservative governMENt
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
What is wrong with entertainment? Nothing. And no, noone forces me to watch, and I don't. I am done with the MLB, NBA, NFL, etc.
My POINT is that there is an extreme lack of balance to what professional athlete get paid. Simple.
IN MY OPINION, I don't think that athletes, actors, musicians, should be making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year. the money can go to better use. I do not support what I see in the entertainment industry. I do not feel that these individuals should be making the money that they make. I am fine with 3-5 million dollars a year; I understand how the entertainment industry works. It makes me sick though, to see the salaries of these individuals, when people, when kids are suffering in this country. let's get our priorities straight. i do not support it, and I never will
What is wrong with entertainment? Nothing. And no, noone forces me to watch, and I don't. I am done with the MLB, NBA, NFL, etc.
My POINT is that there is an extreme lack of balance to what professional athlete get paid. Simple.
IN MY OPINION, I don't think that athletes, actors, musicians, should be making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year. the money can go to better use. I do not support what I see in the entertainment industry. I do not feel that these individuals should be making the money that they make. I am fine with 3-5 million dollars a year; I understand how the entertainment industry works. It makes me sick though, to see the salaries of these individuals, when people, when kids are suffering in this country. let's get our priorities straight. i do not support it, and I never will
To the person who said that the NFL was awesome when there was no cap in the 80s and 90s when the 49ers and Cowboys dominated, you and I (a Cowboys fan) may have thought it was awesome, but the NFL was not that popular during that time (Super Bowl yes, overall no). Basically soon after the cap was instituted and the Cowboys and 49ers stopped winning every year because they never learned how to work under the cap, and everyone else started winning or having a shot to win the league became crazy popular. There were other reasons for this too, fantasy football, online gambling sites, and specifically marketing the sport to women (ie. wtf does the NFL have to do with Breast Cancer? I don't know but they will make some loot and positive spin on those stupid pink gloves and cleats while we get no closer to a cure), but certainly the idea that your team (even Bills fans think this) actually has a chance to win is important. Yes a higher percentage of MLB teams have 'made' it to the playoffs, but as a Brewer fan I can tell you that we had to lose 3 seasons of a chance to win just to get our asses kicked by Philly, same for the Marlins who went all-out twice to win the World Series but became uncompetitive for 3-4 years following their wins. In the NFL that isn't the case. The Vikings and Jets aren't crushed because they grabbed Favre for a shot at the Super Bowl, neither are the Pats for taking a shot with Randy Moss.
To the person who said that the NFL was awesome when there was no cap in the 80s and 90s when the 49ers and Cowboys dominated, you and I (a Cowboys fan) may have thought it was awesome, but the NFL was not that popular during that time (Super Bowl yes, overall no). Basically soon after the cap was instituted and the Cowboys and 49ers stopped winning every year because they never learned how to work under the cap, and everyone else started winning or having a shot to win the league became crazy popular. There were other reasons for this too, fantasy football, online gambling sites, and specifically marketing the sport to women (ie. wtf does the NFL have to do with Breast Cancer? I don't know but they will make some loot and positive spin on those stupid pink gloves and cleats while we get no closer to a cure), but certainly the idea that your team (even Bills fans think this) actually has a chance to win is important. Yes a higher percentage of MLB teams have 'made' it to the playoffs, but as a Brewer fan I can tell you that we had to lose 3 seasons of a chance to win just to get our asses kicked by Philly, same for the Marlins who went all-out twice to win the World Series but became uncompetitive for 3-4 years following their wins. In the NFL that isn't the case. The Vikings and Jets aren't crushed because they grabbed Favre for a shot at the Super Bowl, neither are the Pats for taking a shot with Randy Moss.
Great points.
I grew up here in Mass, and when I was in high school, which was '90 to '94, NOBODY was a Patriots fan. It's unthinkable now, but the kids in school wore shirts and hats with the logos of the Cowboys, the Raiders, the Giants, the Dolphins... everyone but the Pats. Any team that could win. I actually became a Bills fan my freshman year of high school mainly because one of my friends was a Giants fan, and this gave us something to argue about. The Bills went to the Super Bowl every year I was in high school and lost every year. They were lucky to have Jim Kelly, and he was unlucky to have them. I still have my Bills hat, haha.
We never gave up on the Red Sox but they never were a bad team.
Popularity does not make an even playing field or balanced sport. So albeit the NFL grew during the pre-salary cap era in popularity, it hardly represents why it is currently the best model of balanced competition in sports today.
actually football became the most popular sport in our country back in the 80's. so...yeah.
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It is a real sticker. I have one on the back window of my truck.
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
I am going to puke.
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I'm not blaming athletes, actors, or musicians. I understand the entertainment industry. I realize there is an element of supply and demand. However, I still feel the system is backwards. And there's this: think about all the other places where this money could go. feeding underprivileged children, education, infrastructure, parks, rec. areas, federal grants for research on heart disease and cancer, and on and on.
For a family of four to go to a game at Yankee Stadium costs a disgusting amount. paying these players less brings down the costs on game tickets, merchandise, etc. Pump the money back into the system to make life better for all, not just those that can put a round ball through a hoop. (Here come the socialist accusations).
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Tax the teams and tax the players making tens of millions of dollars. Put the money to some good use. Some will say that I am attacking capitalism. I dare not piss on the bible. I'm tired. Good night.
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Jealousy.
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I could be wrong here, but they distribute the TV revenue equally. Do they distribute the gate receipts, parking, concessions, luxury box, merchandise, etc equally?
When players are cut or released they don't keep paying them past the current season, baseball players are sometimes paid the balance of the contract, that never happens in football.
They also don't distribute the payroll equally, you have some very rich players and some not so very rich players. I really don't see the comparison. Green Bay and Pittsburgh, I think are poor examples, they are 2 very popular teams that sell out very large stadiums weekly and have a huge far following where ever they go. For every Pittsburgh and Green Bay, there is a Jacksonville or Carolina teams which have had mild success at times.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
don't think mahr is a sports fan...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I alway thought it was weird that Plaxico was sent to jail. Instead of having him earn several millions of dollars FOR THE STATE OF NY, they instead chose to incarcerate him at the expense of the tax dollars. And isn't shooting yourself punishment enough?
I thought there would be far more fans from those cities, but the way the economy is! Yes I have to agree Chicago and New York would have meant big time spending. For the fans it's a good match up though.
Seriously, they are charging $200 to sit outside? Thats crazy.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
SHOW COUNT: (164) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=108, US=118, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
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Too funny. Sue them for violating the First Amendment
Not true. I blame the system, not the athletes. I just don't think that professional sports should be the racket that it is. There "jobs" aren't that important, at least not as important as doctors, nurses, EMTs, policemen, firemen, teachers, etc.................
And for whoever said that many of the athletes give back......I would guarantee that it is a small percentage.
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My POINT is that there is an extreme lack of balance to what professional athlete get paid. Simple.
IN MY OPINION, I don't think that athletes, actors, musicians, should be making 10, 20, 30 million dollars a year. the money can go to better use. I do not support what I see in the entertainment industry. I do not feel that these individuals should be making the money that they make. I am fine with 3-5 million dollars a year; I understand how the entertainment industry works. It makes me sick though, to see the salaries of these individuals, when people, when kids are suffering in this country. let's get our priorities straight. i do not support it, and I never will
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so you are for a nationwide salary cap?
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Well what you going to look at. The results (the facts) conflict with Maher's points about baseball/football. I actually knew he was way off base when I was watching it live last Friday night.
SHOW COUNT: (164) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=108, US=118, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
Yes
Me too. $500,000 maximum salary, and a $50,000 minimum salary.
Great points.
I grew up here in Mass, and when I was in high school, which was '90 to '94, NOBODY was a Patriots fan. It's unthinkable now, but the kids in school wore shirts and hats with the logos of the Cowboys, the Raiders, the Giants, the Dolphins... everyone but the Pats. Any team that could win. I actually became a Bills fan my freshman year of high school mainly because one of my friends was a Giants fan, and this gave us something to argue about. The Bills went to the Super Bowl every year I was in high school and lost every year. They were lucky to have Jim Kelly, and he was unlucky to have them. I still have my Bills hat, haha.
We never gave up on the Red Sox but they never were a bad team.
Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis