Socialism is what makes football so great

JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
edited February 2011 in A Moving Train
New Rule: With the Super Bowl only a week away, Americans must realize what makes NFL football so great: socialism. That's right, for all the F-15 flyovers and flag waving, football is our most successful sport because the NFL takes money from the rich teams and gives it to the poor teams... just like President Obama wants to do with his secret army of ACORN volunteers. Green Bay, Wisconsin has a population of 100,000. Yet this sleepy little town on the banks of the Fuck-if-I-know River has just as much of a chance of making it to the Super Bowl as the New York Jets - who next year need to just shut the hell up and play.

Now, me personally, I haven't watched a Super Bowl since 2004, when Janet Jackson's nipple popped out during half time, and that split-second glimpse of an unrestrained black titty burned my eyes and offended me as a Christian. But I get it - who doesn't love the spectacle of juiced-up millionaires giving each other brain damage on a giant flat-screen TV with a picture so realistic it feels like Ben Roethlisberger is in your living room, grabbing your sister?

It's no surprise that some 100 million Americans will watch the Super Bowl next week - that's 40 million more than go to church on Christmas - suck on that, Jesus! It's also 85 million more than watched the last game of the World Series, and in that is an economic lesson for America. Because football is built on an economic model of fairness and opportunity, and baseball is built on a model where the rich almost always win and the poor usually have no chance. The World Series is like Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. You have to be a rich bitch just to play. The Super Bowl is like Tila Tequila. Anyone can get in.

Or to put it another way, football is more like the Democratic philosophy. Democrats don't want to eliminate capitalism or competition, but they'd like it if some kids didn't have to go to a crummy school in a rotten neighborhood while others get to go to a great school and their Dad gets them into Harvard. Because when that happens "achieving the American dream" is easy for some, and just a fantasy for others.

That's why the NFL runs itself in a way that would fit nicely on Glenn Beck's chalkboard - they literally share the wealth, through salary caps and revenue sharing - TV is their biggest source of revenue, and they put all of it in a big commie pot and split it 32 ways. Because they don't want anyone to fall too far behind. That's why the team that wins the Super Bowl picks last in the next draft. Or what the Republicans would call "punishing success."

Baseball, on the other hand, is exactly like the Republicans, and I don't just mean it's incredibly boring. I mean their economic theory is every man for himself. The small market Pittsburgh Steelers go to the Super Bowl more than anybody - but the Pittsburgh Pirates? Levi Johnston has sperm that will not grow up and live long enough to see the Pirates in a World Series. Their payroll is about $40 million, and the Yankees is $206 million. They have about as much chance at getting in the playoffs as a poor black teenager from Newark has of becoming the CEO of Halliburton. That's why people stop going to Pirate games in May, because if you're not in the game, you become indifferent to the fate of the game, and maybe even get bitter - that's what's happening to the middle class in America. It's also how Marie Antoinette lost her head.

So, you kind of have to laugh - the same angry white males who hate Obama because he's "redistributing wealth" just love football, a sport that succeeds economically because it does exactly that. To them, the NFL is as American as hot dogs, Chevrolet, apple pie, and a second, giant helping of apple pie. But then again, they think they're macho because their sport is football, when honestly - is there anything gayer than wearing another man's shirt?

By Bill Maher http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-mahe ... 15673.html

Whether you like him or hate him, Maher does have a point here.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Jeanwah wrote:

    Baseball, on the other hand, is exactly like the Republicans, and I don't just mean it's incredibly boring.


    But then again, they think they're macho because their sport is football, when honestly - is there anything gayer than wearing another man's shirt?

    :lol:

    I don't know, the constant slapping of another man's ass seems quite gay to me as well. I competed in a lot of sports over the years, but never felt inclined to do the ass slap. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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  • you can call it socialism or maybe more appropriately, a cartel.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    He may have a point but I was really glad those weren't your words .... Friend :o:lol:

    I'm very new to football, just trying to learn the game and don't know about the politics
    so
    I don't have much else to add except...are you ready for some football! :D Go Pack Go!!!

    I kind of like the ass slapping 8-)
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    pandora wrote:
    He may have a point but I was really glad those weren't your words .... Friend :o:lol:

    I'm very new to football, just trying to learn the game and don't know about the politics
    so
    I don't have much else to add except...are you ready for some football! :D Go Pack Go!!!

    I kind of like the ass slapping 8-)

    Hey, I'm rooting forthe Packers too! Of course, they might very well have the gayest team name in all of football... :shock:
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    Football is so great because it is awesome! And it's only socialism for 32 white guys and Roger Goodell. Free market, capitalism, and competition determine how that money is distributed to the "workers".
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    ahhh bill, they have revenue sharing in baseball too. In fact the reason that the yankees spend so much money is because the PLAYERS reject a salary cap...but hey, this cute little generalization doesn't need to be correct to make it seem like it applies

    plus, fucking revenue sharing will never get the vikings to win a superbowl, in fact I know every year they have no chance
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    ahhh bill, they have revenue sharing in baseball too. In fact the reason that the yankees spend so much money is because the PLAYERS reject a salary cap...but hey, this cute little generalization doesn't need to be correct to make it seem like it applies

    plus, fucking revenue sharing will never get the vikings to win a superbowl, in fact I know every year they have no chance

    This
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Actually in MLB what they refer to "revenue sharing" is merely a small example of taxing the rich who overspend and share it with the lessor income teams. That's not revenue sharing in the notion of the NFL at all. The NFL has a "socialist" model with a hardline cap that forces everyone to be on the same economic level in order to keep competition fair based on income/revenue equability. MLB is no where near that - and you maybe right bout the Vikes, but not for some economic reason :D
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    ahhh bill, they have revenue sharing in baseball too. In fact the reason that the yankees spend so much money is because the PLAYERS reject a salary cap...but hey, this cute little generalization doesn't need to be correct to make it seem like it applies

    plus, fucking revenue sharing will never get the vikings to win a superbowl, in fact I know every year they have no chance
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    team sports in general is a socialist endeavour ... the "teams" that excel are the ones that put the team's goals above personal accolades ...
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Maher does realize that there was no salary cap this year and there is no guarantee that a salary cap will ever return to football right?

    It's not like every team has the same payroll. The difference is not as dramatic as in baseball but the Raiders payroll this year was 70 million more than the Chiefs.

    Give the NFL time and if no salary cap is put in place and the haves and haves not will emerge.
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  • PJ88PJ88 Posts: 1,074
    Solat13 wrote:
    Maher does realize that there was no salary cap this year and there is no guarantee that a salary cap will ever return to football right?

    It's not like every team has the same payroll. The difference is not as dramatic as in baseball but the Raiders payroll this year was 70 million more than the Chiefs.

    Give the NFL time and if no salary cap is put in place and the haves and haves not will emerge.

    Just a bit off topic, but, Solat13, is your avatar a real sticker? I have never seen one and that is awesome!
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    I think your missing the point in that Maher is pointing out what makes the NFL great is because the qualities he's referring too. Yes there's currently no CBA but his point is what separates the NFL from other major sports is the balance and that prevents such a great disparity in wealth and use of that wealth to see a similar polar effect like we see in MLB. The socialist aspect keeps it in balance and without it, we'd see what we see in our society, rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears.
    Solat13 wrote:
    Maher does realize that there was no salary cap this year and there is no guarantee that a salary cap will ever return to football right?

    It's not like every team has the same payroll. The difference is not as dramatic as in baseball but the Raiders payroll this year was 70 million more than the Chiefs.

    Give the NFL time and if no salary cap is put in place and the haves and haves not will emerge.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    FiveB247x wrote:
    I think your missing the point in that Maher is pointing out what makes the NFL great is because the qualities he's referring too. Yes there's currently no CBA but his point is what separates the NFL from other major sports is the balance and that prevents such a great disparity in wealth and use of that wealth to see a similar polar effect like we see in MLB. The socialist aspect keeps it in balance and without it, we'd see what we see in our society, rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears.
    What about the AFC? For the last decade, you can determine which (rich) teams are in the hunt each year (Colts / Pats / Steelers / Ravens / Chargers) and which (poor) teams are going to stink the joint up (Raiders / Bills / Texans / Browns / Bengals). The middle class teams usually have ups and downs and fill in the last few post season spots. If the NFL where the socialist ideal that Bill subscribes, how come everyone picks the Pats, Colts, and Steelers to be Super Bowl favorites each year?
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    You're judging them by outcome, not income. In un-capped sports such as baseball, there's a direct correlation to revenue earned and long term competitiveness (which may lead to overall success). So for example, Indy is a "small market team" in NFL in terms of revenue earning in comparison to say Dallas or NYJ/NYG or Washington. If you applied baseball's terms to this premise, this is why we see the Yankees or Red Sox or Mets or other large revenue streamed teams being able to constantly spend $100-200 million a season - because they have the influx of fans and wealth to pay for it. Where as you look at smaller market teams, they either simply spend less and have to create some model to stay competitive (think Oak/Minn, etc), but they aren't able to spend nearly the amount of money on players. Also with that said, simply because some small or medium market teams can be competitive with large market teams, does not mean the system is balanced, fair or equal, but rather they have found a good plan and practice to work within those disparities. The salary cap in the NFL keeps everyone's revenue stream and amount they can spend on their team on par so every team no matter how much their earning ceiling is, the level of equality which is the main issue is always in balance and therefore you can't simply out earn and then in turn out spend your opponents to create a disparity (which is what you see in MLB).
    Jason P wrote:
    What about the AFC? For the last decade, you can determine which (rich) teams are in the hunt each year (Colts / Pats / Steelers / Ravens / Chargers) and which (poor) teams are going to stink the joint up (Raiders / Bills / Texans / Browns / Bengals). The middle class teams usually have ups and downs and fill in the last few post season spots. If the NFL where the socialist ideal that Bill subscribes, how come everyone picks the Pats, Colts, and Steelers to be Super Bowl favorites each year?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    edited January 2011
    Thank you Jeanwah, thank you. This was hilarious.......
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Actually in MLB what they refer to "revenue sharing" is merely a small example of taxing the rich who overspend and share it with the lessor income teams. That's not revenue sharing in the notion of the NFL at all. The NFL has a "socialist" model with a hardline cap that forces everyone to be on the same economic level in order to keep competition fair based on income/revenue equability. MLB is no where near that - and you maybe right bout the Vikes, but not for some economic reason :D
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    ahhh bill, they have revenue sharing in baseball too. In fact the reason that the yankees spend so much money is because the PLAYERS reject a salary cap...but hey, this cute little generalization doesn't need to be correct to make it seem like it applies

    plus, fucking revenue sharing will never get the vikings to win a superbowl, in fact I know every year they have no chance

    Now I don't have to type a long response.....thanks FiveB...
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    FiveB247x wrote:
    I think your missing the point in that Maher is pointing out what makes the NFL great is because the qualities he's referring too. Yes there's currently no CBA but his point is what separates the NFL from other major sports is the balance and that prevents such a great disparity in wealth and use of that wealth to see a similar polar effect like we see in MLB. The socialist aspect keeps it in balance and without it, we'd see what we see in our society, rich get richer and the poor get poorer, and the middle class disappears.
    Solat13 wrote:
    Maher does realize that there was no salary cap this year and there is no guarantee that a salary cap will ever return to football right?

    It's not like every team has the same payroll. The difference is not as dramatic as in baseball but the Raiders payroll this year was 70 million more than the Chiefs.

    Give the NFL time and if no salary cap is put in place and the haves and haves not will emerge.

    Dammit....thanks again. I saved a lot of time not having to type tonight.

    Have a good tomorrow, all. P.S. I love the fact 40 million more people watch the Super Bowl than go to church in Christmas.....oh, the hypocrisy of the "religious."
    At least us agnostic/atheists/pagans/heathens/"those who are wrong" stick by our principles/
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    whygohome wrote:
    Dammit....thanks again. I saved a lot of time not having to type tonight.

    Have a good tomorrow, all. P.S. I love the fact 40 million more people watch the Super Bowl than go to church in Christmas.....oh, the hypocrisy of the "religious."
    At least us agnostic/atheists/pagans/heathens/"those who are wrong" stick by our principles/
    It's because we know the outcome of the story of the birth of Jesus. If Baby Jesus had to go up against the Iron Curtain or had to stop Aaron Rodgers from throwing 300 yards and 4 TD's, more people would go. Plus, you can't drink beer and eat hot wings at church. ;)

    Also, I don't recall taking a census when I left church services this last Xmas. Where did you get your statistics from?
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    This is a silly debate, but since the NFL is involved I'll gladly continue. :D

    The premise of revenue sharing may support Bill's socialism theory, but no matter how evenly distributed it is, the capitalist nature of business will find ways to circumvent the system, namely signing bonus (which don't hit the cap) and back-loading the contract so that in the early years of Tom Brady or Peyton Manning's contracts have a negligible hit on the cap. The players reap a huge payday of guaranteed money while the owners can bring in more talent to fit under the cap.

    Granted, I do love the notion of the salary cap as evidenced by baseballs chasm of talent. Revenue sharing is great, but it is the salary cap that keeps teams in New York and Chicago outspending smaller markets, not revenue sharing. If revenue sharing was kept intact and the salary cap ended, do you think teams in Jacksonville, Buffalo, and Carolina would be able to field competitive teams?

    I'm sure that the owner's of the Jets, Giants, and the Cowboys are making much more off of tickets and concessions then a team like Green Bay (I had a G.B. ticket 20 rows from the 30 yard line and it was $67 two years ago; I imagine that ticket is at least $250 - $400 in NY). If the cap is lifted, those big market teams would still outspend just like in baseball.
    FiveB247x wrote:
    You're judging them by outcome, not income. In un-capped sports such as baseball, there's a direct correlation to revenue earned and long term competitiveness (which may lead to overall success). So for example, Indy is a "small market team" in NFL in terms of revenue earning in comparison to say Dallas or NYJ/NYG or Washington. If you applied baseball's terms to this premise, this is why we see the Yankees or Red Sox or Mets or other large revenue streamed teams being able to constantly spend $100-200 million a season - because they have the influx of fans and wealth to pay for it. Where as you look at smaller market teams, they either simply spend less and have to create some model to stay competitive (think Oak/Minn, etc), but they aren't able to spend nearly the amount of money on players. Also with that said, simply because some small or medium market teams can be competitive with large market teams, does not mean the system is balanced, fair or equal, but rather they have found a good plan and practice to work within those disparities. The salary cap in the NFL keeps everyone's revenue stream and amount they can spend on their team on par so every team no matter how much their earning ceiling is, the level of equality which is the main issue is always in balance and therefore you can't simply out earn and then in turn out spend your opponents to create a disparity (which is what you see in MLB).
    Jason P wrote:
    What about the AFC? For the last decade, you can determine which (rich) teams are in the hunt each year (Colts / Pats / Steelers / Ravens / Chargers) and which (poor) teams are going to stink the joint up (Raiders / Bills / Texans / Browns / Bengals). The middle class teams usually have ups and downs and fill in the last few post season spots. If the NFL where the socialist ideal that Bill subscribes, how come everyone picks the Pats, Colts, and Steelers to be Super Bowl favorites each year?
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    by the way, it is simply the game of Football that makes it so great. When the 49ers and the cowboys were dominating the 80's and 90's it was still great. The game of football is what makes it great, not their revenue sharing policies
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Isn't the NFL about to have a lockout? I'm just saying.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    We're both now pretty much saying the same thing, but you emphasize the fact that within the socialist confines of the the Salary Cap, it relies on a capitalist market in which players, tickets, etc all have varying costs. I agree, but emphasize the reason the sport as a whole is balanced is the actual cap - the rest works under the confines of the cap for all.

    And MikePegg, any sport can be appreciated by fans, but that's not what makes them fair and balanced in terms of competition.

    And Unsung, the CBA is up, so they're renegotiating the incomes and sorting out some other issues. What does union negotiations between owners and workers have to do to anything other than simply just that? Not sure what your comment is directed at. Care to explain further?
    Jason P wrote:
    This is a silly debate, but since the NFL is involved I'll gladly continue. :D

    The premise of revenue sharing may support Bill's socialism theory, but no matter how evenly distributed it is, the capitalist nature of business will find ways to circumvent the system, namely signing bonus (which don't hit the cap) and back-loading the contract so that in the early years of Tom Brady or Peyton Manning's contracts have a negligible hit on the cap. The players reap a huge payday of guaranteed money while the owners can bring in more talent to fit under the cap.

    Granted, I do love the notion of the salary cap as evidenced by baseballs chasm of talent. Revenue sharing is great, but it is the salary cap that keeps teams in New York and Chicago outspending smaller markets, not revenue sharing. If revenue sharing was kept intact and the salary cap ended, do you think teams in Jacksonville, Buffalo, and Carolina would be able to field competitive teams?

    I'm sure that the owner's of the Jets, Giants, and the Cowboys are making much more off of tickets and concessions then a team like Green Bay (I had a G.B. ticket 20 rows from the 30 yard line and it was $67 two years ago; I imagine that ticket is at least $250 - $400 in NY). If the cap is lifted, those big market teams would still outspend just like in baseball.
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    unsung wrote:
    Isn't the NFL about to have a lockout? I'm just saying.

    I believe so. And if it does, that will be the beginning of its transformation into the MLB.
    I f%$&ing hate professional sports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A-Roid (Alex Rodriquez) makes $20 million dollars a year to hit a ball with a wooden stick? Let's see him patrol Afghanistan for .001% of that salary. Our society is so f&%$ing backwards.
  • BlockheadBlockhead Posts: 1,538
    :roll: Baseball might be the most boring thing to watch in the world as far as sports go, that might play a factor...
    also, we can see a socialistic style of economy strive such as seen in the NFL because the population size is 32 and its in each individual within that population's best interest to maximizes their revenues by partaking in this form of economy.
    If the population is over a billion (see Russia / China), then the dividends become diluted and the results are not nearly as lucrative and the model falls apart.
    The NFL is an example of socialism succeeding on a small scale.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    whygohome wrote:
    unsung wrote:
    Isn't the NFL about to have a lockout? I'm just saying.

    I believe so. And if it does, that will be the beginning of its transformation into the MLB.
    I f%$&ing hate professional sports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    A-Roid (Alex Rodriquez) makes $20 million dollars a year to hit a ball with a wooden stick? Let's see him patrol Afghanistan for .001% of that salary. Our society is so f&%$ing backwards.
    He actually made $33M last year to hit balls.
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  • The main problem there is that there's, what, a few dozen guys that can hit a ball like A-Rod does, and millions of people that want to see it. But there's thousands of guys that can patrol the sandbox and ain't nobody wanting to see that.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    The main problem there is that there's, what, a few dozen guys that can hit a ball like A-Rod does, and millions of people that want to see it. But there's thousands of guys that can patrol the sandbox and ain't nobody wanting to see that.
    Just like Pearl Jam's music and Tom Cruise's acting, baseball is a form of entertainment and those that entertain us the most get paid accordingly.
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  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    pandora wrote:
    He may have a point but I was really glad those weren't your words .... Friend :o:lol:

    :lol: I honestly don't care much for NFL football, but like the politics of Bill Maher sometimes!
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I read somewhere that someone was saying Arod wouldn't eat a Snickers because of what it would do to his body. Didn't Arod claim to not know what he was injecting?

    His contract is amazing but Albert Pujols will top it. Word is 10 years/$300M, and he is currently 31 from what I was just told.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    unsung wrote:
    I read somewhere that someone was saying Arod wouldn't eat a Snickers because of what it would do to his body. Didn't Arod claim to not know what he was injecting?

    His contract is amazing but Albert Pujols will top it. Word is 10 years/$300M, and he is currently 31 from what I was just told.


    Pujols is the only All Star Calibur Dominican not to get caught. Hmmm walks like a duck...
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