Does the Arizona killer change your mind...

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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    ed243421 wrote:
    anyone
    who owns a gun
    so they can kill an intruder
    and is against the death penalty
    but has voted for any president of this nation
    that exists to fight wars
    is a hypocrite
    in my opinion
    I don't own a gun, but somebody I grew up with last year broke into his ex-girlfriends home and shot and killed the parents.. I think people have the right to defend themselves. It's not always about revenge or payback or justice. The death penalty is primitive and about revenge. Owning a gun for self defense is a different beast.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,598
    and if those scumbags from that church that have been protesting at military funerals protest at the funeral of the 9 year old girl killed like they are talking about they should taken out as well. just sayin. the balls of some people. just because you have the right to be an ahole in this country doesn't mean you should always choose to do so.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    i find it odd that so many are so up in arms about the deaths of 6 people while silent to all the deaths created by these last two presidents.....sure, what happened is a tragic thing but there's always stories about the military or drones killing more innocent people than this in a single incident and it's shrugged off.

    and this is more reflective of our society than each individual here, it's just odd that the nation is so mad about this and not that we are killing so many more than that right now yet most still pledge their unwavering support for the people in charge who are keeping these wars, deaths and crimes going....where is all the outrage then? why do most have no problems coming up with excuses and rationalizations about those deaths?


    My problem with this thought is it makes the president damned if he does or damned if he doesn't.. Walking up to someone, putting a gun to their head and pulling the trigger is different than giving orders that may cause or may prevent deaths. George Bush is an idiot and I don't agree with 99% of what he says, but he's not a cold blooded killer.. Now Dick Cheney on the other hand.. :lol:8-)


    Lets say you are elected president and we start getting attacked by another country. Do you do nothing because war would make you a murderer?.. Now with Bush, the reasons were much different, but at some level, they guy thought he was doing the right thing and if he could have his way cleanly without taking any lives, I'm sure he would have. It's our opionions that make him a murderer. Give him a gun, put him in the room with his "enemy" and I garuntee you he would not pull the trigger. 99% of us don't have the murdering gene in us. Indirect killing, probably.

    If you do believe that the president is a cold blooded killer, then you do realize half of this country who agrees with his orders are cold blooded killers as well.


    i wouldn't call an obama or bush supporter a cold blooded killer' but i'd say both definitely have blood on their hands. it is your/their support that things like this are happening. obama always said he'd escalate the war in afghanistan so i really don't understand why 99% of his supporters seem so dumbfounded now?

    and to think of all the vicious attacks by obama supporters against anyone who dared to say these very things would happen under his presidency only to find them not making a peep about things they made relentless posts about for 8 years under bush. where's the daily "bring them the fuck home NOW!!!' threads? where's those threads about violation of civil rights? nuclear power? the patriot act?

    fuck, i made a thread about obama picking an exec from jp morgan chase to be his chief of staff and none of his supporters had a thing to say and i guarantee you the majority of them will vote for him next time regardless of what a scam and empty marketing he was

    so yeah, while i wouldn't call you a cold blooded killer i'd say a lot of the blame lies on the people who voted for these crooks and continue to support them
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