The sky is falling......bullcrap !

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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    And you wonder why people like me question it

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... e-weather/

    A scientist who questions it

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Jensen

    http://samnite.blogspot.com/2010/09/top ... rming.html

    http://www.nationalpost.com/m/Scientist ... story.html
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lukin2006 wrote:
    And you wonder why people like me question it

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... e-weather/

    A scientist who questions it

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Jensen

    http://samnite.blogspot.com/2010/09/top ... rming.html

    http://www.nationalpost.com/m/Scientist ... story.html

    seriously ... not this again ... if you google "climate change is a fraud" - you are for sure gonna get articles that support you but this is a guarantee ... you will not be able to produce one piece of peer-reviewed scientific article that claims global warming is NOT caused by man ...

    your first link gave me lawrence solomon ... did you know this about mr. solomon?

    http://sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Lawrence_Solomon

    if i were you - i would just leave it at: you don't trust scientists ... because citing one scientist to prove a point sort of goes against that theory ... like i've said to everyone else - if you truly care about this and it's not just some pre-disposed bias against environmental issues you've achieved through years of right wing media - then all you have to do is educate yourself on the science - it's not overly complicated ... sure, determining the actual impacts of global warming are very difficult but proving man is responsible is very basic science ...
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    98% of climate scientists believe that global warming is real and caused by humans.

    Most (well over 50%) republicans, and their media outlets, do not.

    Regardless of your political affilitation, why would you choose to believe a politician over a scientist in regards to a scientific matter? Please... a logical/rational reason from someone would be appreciated.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    he still stands wrote:
    98% of climate scientists believe that global warming is real and caused by humans.

    Most (well over 50%) republicans, and their media outlets, do not.

    Regardless of your political affilitation, why would you choose to believe a politician over a scientist in regards to a scientific matter? Please... a logical/rational reason from someone would be appreciated.
    Maybe because in the climate change science, politics and science are mixing. Which is probably the worst possible combination.
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    HeidiJam wrote:
    he still stands wrote:
    98% of climate scientists believe that global warming is real and caused by humans.

    Most (well over 50%) republicans, and their media outlets, do not.

    Regardless of your political affilitation, why would you choose to believe a politician over a scientist in regards to a scientific matter? Please... a logical/rational reason from someone would be appreciated.
    Maybe because in the climate change science, politics and science are mixing. Which is probably the worst possible combination.

    :?

    No, there is no politics in the scientific method. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

    Politicans and media actors claim to know science, but that is meaningless rhetoric and I don't know why anyon would pay attention to that.

    When I say that 98% of climate change scientists, I mean the peer-reviewed published journals that use the scientific method, just as assuredly as I'm breathing air right now.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110112/ap_ ... rmest_year

    2010 ties 2005 as warmest year on record worldwide

    WASHINGTON – It's a tie: Last year equaled 2005 as the warmest year on record, government climate experts reported Wednesday.

    The average worldwide temperature was 1.12 degrees Fahrenheit (0.62 degree Celsius) above normal last year. That's the same as six years ago, the National Climatic Data Center announced.

    Climate experts have become increasingly concerned about rising global temperatures over the last century. Most atmospheric scientists attribute the change to gases released into the air by industrial processes and gasoline-burning engines.

    In addition, the Global Historical Climatology Network said Wednesday that last year was the wettest on record. Rain and snowfall patterns varied greatly around the world.

    "The warmth this year reinforces the notion that we are seeing climate change," said David Easterling, chief of scientific services at the climatic data center. Nine of the 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 2000, he noted. The exception was 1998, which is the third warmest year on record going back to 1880.

    Easterling said the data "unequivocally" disproves claims that climate warming ended in 2005.

    The temperature readings are collected at land stations and from ships and buoys at sea. The "normal" reading they use is the average worldwide temperature for the 20th century, which was 57.0 degrees Fahrenheit.

    Temperatures over land surfaces were the warmest on record last year, averaging 1.80 degrees Fahrenheit above normal, while ocean temperatures were the third warmest on record at 0.88 degrees above average.

    A La Nina condition took effect at the last half of the year, marked by below normal temperatures in the tropical Pacific Ocean.

    While it was the wettest year on record, Easterling declined to link warmer temperatures with the unusual moisture, commenting that much more research would be needed in that area.

    Other findings in the annual climate report included:

    • There were just seven named storms and three hurricanes in the Pacific, the fewest since the mid-1960s. On the other hand the Atlantic hurricane season was very active with 19 named storms and 12 hurricanes.

    • Arctic sea ice cover was the third smallest since records began in 1979, trailing only 2007 and 2008. The ice cover is considered a marker of climate change as global warming tends to be seen first at the poles.

    • Despite the overall warmth, 2010 saw record cold and snow in January and February in the Northern Hemisphere, particularly eastern North America.

    • From mid-June to mid-August an unusually strong jet stream shifted northward, bringing an unprecedented two-month heat wave to Russia and adding to devastating floods in Pakistan.

    • For the contiguous United States it was the 14th consecutive year with above average temperatures.

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