Poll: Slim majority supports DREAM Act
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So does this mean that the bill should be passed, because the American People seem to want this. The GOP said they were going to listen to the American people, does this apply?? :roll:
Poll: Slim majority supports DREAM Act
As the DREAM Act remains stalled in the Senate, a small majority of Americans say they support the path to legal status for people brought illegally to the United States as children.
In a Gallup Poll released Friday, 54 percent of Americans said they would vote for a law that would create a route to citizenship for immigrants who go to college or serve in the military. Forty-two percent said they would vote against the bill.
Support broke down along partisan lines. Among Democrats, 66 percent said they would vote for the DREAM Act, while 31 percent said they would vote against it.
Thirty-four percent of Republicans said they support the bill, while 63 percent said they were opposed to it. Nearly 60 percent of independents said they would vote for the law.
Gallup surveyed 1,003 adults by phone between Dec. 3 and Dec. 6. The error margin is plus or minus 4 percentage points.
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Poll: Slim majority supports DREAM Act
As the DREAM Act remains stalled in the Senate, a small majority of Americans say they support the path to legal status for people brought illegally to the United States as children.
In a Gallup Poll released Friday, 54 percent of Americans said they would vote for a law that would create a route to citizenship for immigrants who go to college or serve in the military. Forty-two percent said they would vote against the bill.
Support broke down along partisan lines. Among Democrats, 66 percent said they would vote for the DREAM Act, while 31 percent said they would vote against it.
Thirty-four percent of Republicans said they support the bill, while 63 percent said they were opposed to it. Nearly 60 percent of independents said they would vote for the law.
Gallup surveyed 1,003 adults by phone between Dec. 3 and Dec. 6. The error margin is plus or minus 4 percentage points.
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In their efforts to bring down the DREAM Act, which would give children of undocumented immigrants who complete college or volunteer for the military a path to citizenship, conservatives have been smearing the bill as “backdoor amnesty” for undocumented immigrants and claiming it creates a loophole for terrorists. Unfortunately, many of their attacks have also taken on racial undertones. Yesterday, Fox News host Glenn Beck told a caller on his radio show that the bill would disenfranchise white people, saying, “if you’re white or you’re an American citizen or a white American citizen, you’re pretty much toast.” Beck suggested his caller steal a Mexican ID card in to receive the supposedly preferential treatment minorities will receive under DREAM.
While clearly bigoted, Beck’s comments appeared to have the joking tone of a self-described “rodeo clown.” But Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA) was not joking when he took to the House floor Wednesday to warn that voting for “the Affirmative Action Amnesty Act,” as he dubbed DREAM, will “relegate the position of non-minority American citizens to behind those who are now in this country illegally.”
Appearing on Radio America with Greg Corombus yesterday, Rohrabacher expanded on the dangers to white people of DREAM, explaining that the “real zinger” is that it puts minorities “ahead of every American child who’s not a minority.” “[T]hey can get into college before our kids,” Rohrabacher said on behalf of white people everywhere, warning ominously at the end of the interview that “if Americans aren’t alerted to this, we’re going to lose our freedom”:
ROHRABACHER: And one thing that people don’t talk, and this is the real zinger. … So they go to college, they finish, they get their legal status. Well, if that person happens to be a minority, which many, as we know, illegal aliens are Hispanic in background and other minorities, they then are immediately eligible to all the preferences we have written into our laws.
So we’re not only putting them in the line, so to speak, but we’re putting them ahead of every American child who’s not a minority. You put them at the front of the line for government education program, for jobs, for all the other preferences that we’ve written into our law. This is outrageous! Not only are we paying them money, that should be going to our kids education, but we’re making it so they can get accepted to college before our kids can get into. [...]
Please alert the people, if Americans aren’t alerted to this, we’re going to lose our freedom and we know it’s in jeopardy right now.
Of course, the DREAM Act is not amnesty, nor is it affirmative action, and it is certainly not a measure to oppress white people. The bill extends conditional legal status for five years to young people who are upstanding citizens and in this country illegally by not fault of their own. It will also help enforce immigration laws, reduce the deficit, and strengthen the military, but that doesn’t seem to matter to Rohrabacher or Beck.
if you were looking for hoest opinions from members of the train you now have mine.
Godfather.
Not for nothing but 1003 people polled and 54 % of them which is about 542 people. That really should not qualify as the majority of the country.
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It also would give amnesty to aliens with a criminal record, including crimes like fraud and assault.
It won't pass and I don't believe a majority of American citizens support this when a clear majority support the Arizona laws currently on hold by a judge.
pretty much what i was thinking. if it's that close with a small sampling of people, open it up to the entire public to vote on.
And if you are willing to take a bullet for Uncle Sam, I don't see why you shouldn't be rewarded with citizenship.
But if you're the child of a soldier that DID take a bullet you have to pay for your own school, of take out loans, or not go at all. Anchor babies get FREE tuition, paid for by WORKING Americans, while the children of our own soldiers get left behind.
Just a back-door to citizenship w/ the goal of increasing the Dem voting base. Scam for schills.
The illegal immigrants will most likely continue to live in America ... at least with a chance to increase their knowledge, they can provide a viable service and pay taxes rather then living off the grid and being a liability.
In the end it doesn't matter. Politicians will use this issue to help capture votes. Both sides will use fear and false statistics to help justify their position. Citizens will voice their outrage and both sides will hold protests. The most eccentric of each side will be exposed by the opposition as an average representation of the group's ideal. Nothing will get accomplished, and if groundbreaking legislation does pass, their will be lawsuits and injunctions and the matter will stall.
We might as well be arguing about abortion, gun control, and all the other hot-topic issues that continue to outrage everyone yet go nowhere.
The DREAM Act—a popular proposal to provide legal status to undocumented youth who entered the U.S. as children, graduated from U.S. high schools, and attend college or enter the military—is the target of a smear campaign from anti-immigration hardliners. According to them, passage of the DREAM Act would cheat native-born students out of opportunities. This tired effort to pit immigrants and native-born—whether they are workers or students—against one another is not only destructive, but has no basis in fact. Moreover, it ignores the economic benefits that come from legalizing a group of talented, hard-working individuals who want nothing more than to contribute to America and repay the country for the opportunities they’ve been given.
Research has shown that providing a legal status for young people who have a proven record of success in the United States would be a boon to the economy and the U.S. workforce. University presidents and educational associations, as well as military recruiters, business and religious leaders, have added their voice to those calling for passage of the bill. The DREAM Act will help boost the number of high-skilled American-raised workers. A 2010 study by the UCLA North American Integration and Development Center estimates that the total earnings of DREAM Act beneficiaries over the course of their working lives would be between $1.4 trillion and $3.6 trillion. Removing the uncertainty of undocumented status allows legalized immigrants to earn higher wages and move into higher-paying occupations, and also encourages them to invest more in their own education, open bank accounts, buy homes, and start businesses.
The U.S. military also needs the DREAM Act. Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Military Personnel Policy, Bill Carr, stated that the law would be “good for readiness” and would help to recruit “cream of the crop” students. The DREAM Act is part of the Department of Defense’s 2010-2012 Strategic Plan to assist the military in its recruiting efforts.
Yet, despite the popular support and extensive data that should make passage of the DREAM Act a no-brainer, there are those who continue to spread half-truths about it. Here’s a run down of some of the most typical myths and the facts that refute them.
Myth: The DREAM Act uses taxpayer dollars for scholarships and grants to undocumented students.
Fact: The DREAM Act states that undocumented youth adjusting to lawful permanent resident status are only eligible for federal student loans (which must be paid back), and federal work-study programs, where they must work for any benefit they receive. They are not eligible for federal grants, such as Pell Grants.
Myth: The DREAM Act allows undocumented students to pay cheaper tuition than citizens.
Fact: The DREAM Act gives states the option to offer in-state tuition to students registered under DREAM, but it does NOT guarantee cheaper tuition. At most, the DREAM Act allows undocumented students to access the same benefits as their peers. The DREAM Act allows undocumented students to access in-state tuition, but only if they would otherwise qualify for such tuition, and if state law permits undocumented students to receive in-state tuition.
Myth: The DREAM Act gives undocumented students and their families access to public benefits.
Fact: DREAM Act students receive no special benefits and are subject to the same public benefits eligibility requirements as other legal immigrants. This means that DREAM Act students and families are NOT immediately eligible for Supplemental Security Income, food stamps, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, Medicaid (other than emergency care), and numerous other federal benefit programs. In general, a person must be here as a lawful permanent resident for five years before they receive non-emergency federal assistance.
Myth: The DREAM Act will result in a mass amnesty.
Fact: The DREAM Act is not an amnesty. No one will automatically receive a green card. To legalize, individuals have to meet stringent eligibility criteria: they must have entered the United States before age 16; must have been here for five years or more; must not have committed any major crimes; must graduate from high school or the equivalent; and must complete at least two years of college or military service. Eligible students must first obtain conditional residency and complete the requirements before they can obtain a green card—a process that will take years. Not all immigrants who came as young children will be eligible to legalize because they will not meet some of these requirements.
Myth: The DREAM Act will spur more illegal immigration because it rewards undocumented youth.
Fact: Programs like the DREAM Act, which have clear cut-off dates, offer no incentives for more illegal immigration. In order to qualify for the DREAM Act, a student must have entered the United States before the age of 16 and have lived in the U.S. for at least five years before the date of enactment. Economic conditions have far more impact on illegal immigration than specific pieces of legislation.
Myth: The DREAM Act isn’t just for students, but will benefit people of all ages.
Fact: Because the U.S. has failed to address the question of illegal immigration for more than a decade, an entire generation of young people’s skills and contributions could easily be lost. The young people who inspired the DREAM Act ten years ago may now be in their early 30s and should be eligible to benefit when it becomes law. Consequently, the DREAM Act encourages immigrants 35 or younger to attend college or join the military, but they must still have entered the U.S. before they were 16 AND have been here for five years immediately preceding the date of enactment.
Myth: The DREAM Act legalizes criminals and gang members and lets people who have already been ordered deported avoid the law.
Fact: Immigrants convicted of serious crimes are ineligible for DREAM Act status; the DREAM Act excludes from eligibility most immigrants applying for benefits who have been under an order of deportation. Specifically, the DREAM Act states that an applicant may not have already been ordered deported unless they received the order before they were 16 years old.
Myth: The DREAM Act lets students cut in line in front of other lawful immigrants.
Fact: DREAM Act students do not compete for visas with other applicants for legal permanent residence. Instead, DREAM Act creates a separate program for students that requires them to earn legal permanent residence by attending college or serving in the military for two years while in a temporary legal status. DREAM will not affect the number of visas available or the time it takes to get a visa for those entering through traditional legal immigration.
Myth: The DREAM Act would diminish opportunities for U.S.-citizen students.
Fact: According to the National Immigration Law Center:
Most undocumented students are likely to have zero impact on admission rates of native born students: Since 2001, 10 states have made it easier for undocumented state residents to attend college by offering in-state tuition to those that qualify. A significant portion of the students that took advantage of this opportunity have done so in community colleges, which have open enrollment. The small numbers of students who will attend 4-year universities are not significant enough to affect the opportunities of others.
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-f ... m-act-2010
The bill proposes free tuition for children of illegals in future.
About everything else, I believe you are, unfortunately for us, exactly right.
This.
What are you talking about and could you provide a source? Free tuition? Where? Who???
too many words like maybe unlikely likely and probably, even in this article it shows long term problems with welfare and unemployment, if these people want to be US citizens they need to do it the right way and stop acting and talking like the US owes them anything,just because a person enters illegally and works does not mean we the tax payers owe them a thing.
Godfather.
Agreed.
Find me another country willing to completely alter their culture and way of life to acommodate people entering illegally.
What are you talking about?
there is much more to it? Really, what?
this is about a specific group of people - who would serve in the military or contribute to society by earning a college degree. They would be paying for school or risking their life's for our country- what is so difficult to understand?
Is this what it's about? You're threaten that your culture and it's way of life is going to be altered?
I have absolutely no problem with people obtaining American citizenship through legal means AND adopting our culture.
Do you know how illegal immigrants are treated most everywhere else?
I don't think I need to tell you that, read it carefully and think about it....it's disaster in the making.
Godfather.
I do know how some other countries treat illegal immigrants else where- but we are talking about The United States of America- This bill is about people who were brought up here and probably didn't realize that they weren't American's until they were old enough to understand.
You stated that the culture must be altered, explain it? What do you suggest we do with the 11+ million undocumented people in this country? Isn't this something that could benefit the US?
I don't even know why I waste my time. You always have comments, but never have facts.
Next....
why don't you give us some real facts and real solutions?
BUILD A FUCKING WALL!!!!!! Think of the jobs it would create...
Then, AFTER the borders are secured, we'll talk citizenship.
But saying "Hey, we got free college for any Mexican that wants to stroll up here- Paid for in full by a working American!!"- that is unacceptable w/ open borders.
You think we've got a problem w/ illegals now?? Pass the KeepDreamin' Act and see what happens...holy shit.
I thought they tried the wall? Yeah, secure the boarders- I am 100% for that too- I think everyone is for that!
This isn't only about Mexican's and this isn't about free college paid for by working American's -
Do you have any real facts? Do you have any real solutions?
A few phone numbers where you can let certain Senators know how you feel about this Shamnesty Bill:
SEN. KAY BAILEY HUTCHISON 202-224-5922; 214-361-3500
SEN. SCOTT BROWN 202-224-4543
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN 202-224-2235; 480-897-6289
SEN. OLYMPIA SNOWE 202-224-5344; 207-874-0883
SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI 202-224-6665; 907-271-3735
SEN. SUSAN COLLINS 202-224-2523; 207-945-0417
SEN. SAM BROWNBACK 202-224-6521; 785-233-2503
While you’re at it, you might want to put in a special phone call to retiring open-borders Utah GOP Sen. Bob Bennett (good riddance) and ask him to name names of the Republicans who support massive, costly illegal alien amnesties that undermine immigration enforcement and put law-breaking workers and students ahead of law-abiding ones.-M.M. (Not Michael Moore)
What are you talking about? You can't provide facts or real solutions.
What a waste of time -
why do we have to accept ANY illegal immigrant and have to explain to you or anyone else why not ?
these facts you keep asking for are simple, anchor baby's..more and more people will come over here have a baby or babys to get citizenship for their children....bullshit ! instead of trying to change our country to suit them why don't they try fixing their own country's as hard as they try to change ours.
Norteamericanos son cansados de es mierda en extranjeros de compra que vienen a nuestro país y la ciudadanía y al bienestar exigente o los trabajos, si una persona viene aquí ilegalmente deben ser enviados inmediatamente a su propio país por mucho que largo hayan estado aquí.
Godfather.
You ARE the Godfather.