Project #4 - a Live Vitalogy era Compilation

TheRealDanPatch

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

It depends on whether you are giving it your full attention, drifting in and out or having it as 'background' I'm finding. For the latter two, I think it works better in the new place, because it draws your attention back to the more intense songs, and then finishes with a bang. I'm not sure whether it works better if you are listening right through intently, but the previous mix got a bit too heavy for me on that score - overall I prefer this new arrangement. If this doesn't work, I propose we insert another or a new rocky number in the same place, after Improv 3!

There's something that's wrong there, but can't manage to pinpoint what exactly. We definitely need a rocky/uplifted one right after Improv #3. I tried with what you suggested, and that does the job okay I guess. But then I might somehow miss it where it initially was, right after I Got Id. So I tried to put Leavin Here instead, and that just doesn't work at all, it needs to be second to last. And, well, RITFW has to be last. So I'm a bit stuck there, really. So maybe we could find another rocky track to see if it fits in the spot after Improv#3 ?

Act of Love w/ Neil Young form 1/14/95??

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

It depends on whether you are giving it your full attention, drifting in and out or having it as 'background' I'm finding. For the latter two, I think it works better in the new place, because it draws your attention back to the more intense songs, and then finishes with a bang. I'm not sure whether it works better if you are listening right through intently, but the previous mix got a bit too heavy for me on that score - overall I prefer this new arrangement. If this doesn't work, I propose we insert another or a new rocky number in the same place, after Improv 3!

There's something that's wrong there, but can't manage to pinpoint what exactly. We definitely need a rocky/uplifted one right after Improv #3. I tried with what you suggested, and that does the job okay I guess. But then I might somehow miss it where it initially was, right after I Got Id. So I tried to put Leavin Here instead, and that just doesn't work at all, it needs to be second to last. And, well, RITFW has to be last. So I'm a bit stuck there, really. So maybe we could find another rocky track to see if it fits in the spot after Improv#3 ?

Act of Love w/ Neil Young form 1/14/95??

Sounds good! Could try putting that after Improv 3, and the other one back to where it was.

myra

Cameron4President wrote:

Act of Love w/ Neil Young form 1/14/95??

Yes.

I initially thought of something more like 'Can't explain'. But apart from sound quality that's definitely better with Act of love, it might actually run more smoothly between improv#3 and Long Road. Less outstanding-ly uplifting, I guess.

TheRealDanPatch

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

Act of Love w/ Neil Young form 1/14/95??

Yes.

I initially thought of something more like 'Can't explain'. But apart from sound quality that's definitely better with Act of love, it might actually run more smoothly between improv#3 and Long Road. Less outstanding-ly uplifting, I guess.

We can't use "Can't Explain" due to the Who Covers compilation we are going to do. (Opps, I just let the cat out of the bag about one of our future projects) I was thinking "Act of Love" after Improv #3, and place "Let my love open the door" back to its original spot. Version 2 shaping up like this:

Pearl Jam: The Theory of Vitalogy - Version 2

Track List:

01 Spin the Black Circle - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
02 Jack Irons Chant - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
03 Last Exit - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
04 Not for You - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
05 Tremor Christ - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
06 Improv #2 - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
07 Whipping - Atlanta, Georgia (4/3/94)
08 Corduroy - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
09 BS Speech - Missoula, Montana (2/8/95)
10 Satan's Bed - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
11 Better Man - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
12 Immortality - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
13 Improv #3 - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
14. Act of Love - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
15 Long Road - Caspar, Wyoming - (6/16/95)
16 Falling Down - Morrison, Colorado (6/20/95)
17 I Got Shit - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
18 Let My love Open the Door - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
19 Leaving Here - Salt Lake City, Utah (11/1/95)
20 Rockin' in the Free World (w/ Dave Grohl) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)

myra

Cameron4President wrote:

We can't use "Can't Explain" due to the Who Covers compilation we are going to do. (Opps, I just let the cat out of the bag about one of our future projects)

It's ok, I don't think anyone will notice at the moment

Cameron4President wrote:

I was thinking "Act of Love" after Improv #3, and place "Let my love open the door" back to its original spot. Version 2 shaping up like this:

Pearl Jam: The Theory of Vitalogy - Version 2

Track List:

01 Spin the Black Circle - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
02 Jack Irons Chant - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
03 Last Exit - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
04 Not for You - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
05 Tremor Christ - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
06 Improv #2 - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
07 Whipping - Atlanta, Georgia (4/3/94)
08 Corduroy - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
09 BS Speech - Missoula, Montana (2/8/95)
10 Satan's Bed - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
11 Better Man - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
12 Immortality - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
13 Improv #3 - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
14. Act of Love - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
15 Long Road - Caspar, Wyoming - (6/16/95)
16 Falling Down - Morrison, Colorado (6/20/95)
17 I Got Shit - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
18 Let My love Open the Door - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
19 Leaving Here - Salt Lake City, Utah (11/1/95)
20 Rockin' in the Free World (w/ Dave Grohl) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)

Sounds good !

tremors

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

We can't use "Can't Explain" due to the Who Covers compilation we are going to do. (Opps, I just let the cat out of the bag about one of our future projects)

It's ok, I don't think anyone will notice at the moment

Cameron4President wrote:

I was thinking "Act of Love" after Improv #3, and place "Let my love open the door" back to its original spot. Version 2 shaping up like this:

Pearl Jam: The Theory of Vitalogy - Version 2

Track List:

01 Spin the Black Circle - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
02 Jack Irons Chant - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
03 Last Exit - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
04 Not for You - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
05 Tremor Christ - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
06 Improv #2 - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
07 Whipping - Atlanta, Georgia (4/3/94)
08 Corduroy - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
09 BS Speech - Missoula, Montana (2/8/95)
10 Satan's Bed - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
11 Better Man - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
12 Immortality - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
13 Improv #3 - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
14. Act of Love - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
15 Long Road - Caspar, Wyoming - (6/16/95)
16 Falling Down - Morrison, Colorado (6/20/95)
17 I Got Shit - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
18 Let My love Open the Door - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
19 Leaving Here - Salt Lake City, Utah (11/1/95)
20 Rockin' in the Free World (w/ Dave Grohl) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)

Sounds good !

Version 1 was sounding great, need to listen a few more times to the whole thing (version 2) but think it's getting very close to being ready. Has some of the best 'sound' of any of the compilations we've done. Impressive! Very impressive

hrd2imgn

Soldier Field is an FM soundboard recording, does not get much better for back then. I think Dc had the same type of source. Mike's solo at SF was too fucking cool, not too much, just enough. I know you have a lot of the gems from the show, but I would rather have this version than DC

the long road choice is GREAT

Do not forget Forever In blue JEans from Milwuakee 1, and Little Wing from night 2 (one of the best solos mike has ever let out of his fingers

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

myra wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

We can't use "Can't Explain" due to the Who Covers compilation we are going to do. (Opps, I just let the cat out of the bag about one of our future projects)

It's ok, I don't think anyone will notice at the moment

Cameron4President wrote:

I was thinking "Act of Love" after Improv #3, and place "Let my love open the door" back to its original spot. Version 2 shaping up like this:

Pearl Jam: The Theory of Vitalogy - Version 2

Track List:

01 Spin the Black Circle - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
02 Jack Irons Chant - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
03 Last Exit - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
04 Not for You - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
05 Tremor Christ - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
06 Improv #2 - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
07 Whipping - Atlanta, Georgia (4/3/94)
08 Corduroy - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)
09 BS Speech - Missoula, Montana (2/8/95)
10 Satan's Bed - Self Pollution Radio (1/8/95)
11 Better Man - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
12 Immortality - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
13 Improv #3 - Seattle, Washington (2/6/95)
14. Act of Love - Washington D.C. - (1/14/95)
15 Long Road - Caspar, Wyoming - (6/16/95)
16 Falling Down - Morrison, Colorado (6/20/95)
17 I Got Shit - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
18 Let My love Open the Door - Chicago, Illinois (7/11/95)
19 Leaving Here - Salt Lake City, Utah (11/1/95)
20 Rockin' in the Free World (w/ Dave Grohl) - Melbourne, Australia (3/17/95)

Sounds good !

Version 1 was sounding great, need to listen a few more times to the whole thing (version 2) but think it's getting very close to being ready. Has some of the best 'sound' of any of the compilations we've done. Impressive! Very impressive

Version 2 now complete!! PM will be sent in the next 10 minutes.

Changes Made to V2:

-A few more additional SQ tweaks
-Added "Act of Love"
-Modified the Track List

Bad news is that we are now at a 1:54 over. The question now is "Do we cut Act of Love?" or "Do we keep it and cut something else?" Give it a listen and I will check back in sometime tomorrow. I am going to have a real busy day at work tomorrow and I will not be very active on this thread until very late in the day and/or night. So discuss and debate very well so that we can have a Version 3 ready to roll out on Thursday. V3 may be the final version we end up releasing at the rate we are going, all of this sounds great and we are very close. We will definitely have this ready for release by Saturday.

Gary Carter

i say cut the speech or one the improvs


i noticed bout the who. must be that who radar i have. lol. someone fan did a who compilation and it was really amazing. probably the best compilation a fan has done besides green habit and this compilation that you are all doing.

tremors

metsfan wrote:

i say cut the speech or one the improvs


i noticed bout the who. must be that who radar i have. lol. someone fan did a who compilation and it was really amazing. probably the best compilation a fan has done besides green habit and this compilation that you are all doing.

Yeah, I would rather cut one of the other bits than Act of Love or another 'proper' song. How about Improv 3? I know it adds to the mood, but it would be hard to justify compared to other songs I think. Am about to listen to the latest version.

Thanks for the words metsfan

wolfamongwolves

tremors wrote:

metsfan wrote:

i say cut the speech or one the improvs


i noticed bout the who. must be that who radar i have. lol. someone fan did a who compilation and it was really amazing. probably the best compilation a fan has done besides green habit and this compilation that you are all doing.

Yeah, I would rather cut one of the other bits than Act of Love or another 'proper' song. How about Improv 3? I know it adds to the mood, but it would be hard to justify compared to other songs I think. Am about to listen to the latest version.

Thanks for the words metsfan

You folks have been doing an amazing job. I've missed a lot through work (ho-hum) but this looks like it's going to be great.

On cutting it down, I think I'd take out the BS speech rather than Improv #3. But then I am rather partial to that improv.

tremors

Cameron4President wrote:

Version 2 now complete!! PM will be sent in the next 10 minutes.

Changes Made to V2:

-A few more additional SQ tweaks
-Added "Act of Love"
-Modified the Track List

Bad news is that we are now at a 1:54 over. The question now is "Do we cut Act of Love?" or "Do we keep it and cut something else?" Give it a listen and I will check back in sometime tomorrow. I am going to have a real busy day at work tomorrow and I will not be very active on this thread until very late in the day and/or night. So discuss and debate very well so that we can have a Version 3 ready to roll out on Thursday. V3 may be the final version we end up releasing at the rate we are going, all of this sounds great and we are very close. We will definitely have this ready for release by Saturday.

Hey Cameron4President, on the SQ, I seem to be getting more distortion on this one from the MP3s - what did you do? I've sometimes found this with your MP3s on my player - they 'break up' at higher volumes - the volume I need to listen to it at. I'm a bit funny about MP3s breaking up. I thought I noticed something similar on some of the 'official bootlegs' mp3s - my originals sounded clearer. Trouble is, on different devices the effect can be quite different. Overall the SQ on version 2 is sounding more problematic to me than V1 - what changes did you make? I'd been thinking the SQ on this collection was the best yet, but I'm running into problems again!

tremors

wolfamongwolves wrote:

tremors wrote:

metsfan wrote:

i say cut the speech or one the improvs


i noticed bout the who. must be that who radar i have. lol. someone fan did a who compilation and it was really amazing. probably the best compilation a fan has done besides green habit and this compilation that you are all doing.

Yeah, I would rather cut one of the other bits than Act of Love or another 'proper' song. How about Improv 3? I know it adds to the mood, but it would be hard to justify compared to other songs I think. Am about to listen to the latest version.

Thanks for the words metsfan

You folks have been doing an amazing job. I've missed a lot through work (ho-hum) but this looks like it's going to be great.

On cutting it down, I think I'd take out the BS speech rather than Improv #3. But then I am rather partial to that improv.

Ok, we'll see what people think on this - we're getting to the closing stages now I think!!

myra

tremors wrote:

Yeah, I would rather cut one of the other bits than Act of Love or another 'proper' song. How about Improv 3? I know it adds to the mood, but it would be hard to justify compared to other songs I think. Am about to listen to the latest version.

I agree with this.

wolfamongwolves wrote:

On cutting it down, I think I'd take out the BS speech rather than Improv #3. But then I am rather partial to that improv.

And this.

Therefore, my post is totally useless. :roll: And I don't know what to cut off. That's tough... I'll have another listen on my way back from court later on, if I manage to get a completed download of the updated version before my case is called up.

tremors

tremors wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

Version 2 now complete!! PM will be sent in the next 10 minutes.

Changes Made to V2:

-A few more additional SQ tweaks
-Added "Act of Love"
-Modified the Track List

Bad news is that we are now at a 1:54 over. The question now is "Do we cut Act of Love?" or "Do we keep it and cut something else?" Give it a listen and I will check back in sometime tomorrow. I am going to have a real busy day at work tomorrow and I will not be very active on this thread until very late in the day and/or night. So discuss and debate very well so that we can have a Version 3 ready to roll out on Thursday. V3 may be the final version we end up releasing at the rate we are going, all of this sounds great and we are very close. We will definitely have this ready for release by Saturday.

Hey Cameron4President, on the SQ, I seem to be getting more distortion on this one from the MP3s - what did you do? I've sometimes found this with your MP3s on my player - they 'break up' at higher volumes - the volume I need to listen to it at. I'm a bit funny about MP3s breaking up. I thought I noticed something similar on some of the 'official bootlegs' mp3s - my originals sounded clearer. Trouble is, on different devices the effect can be quite different. Overall the SQ on version 2 is sounding more problematic to me than V1 - what changes did you make? I'd been thinking the SQ on this collection was the best yet, but I'm running into problems again!

Hey Cameron4President, sorry of this post seems a bit harsh or uncharitable- was early morning!! It might have been in my imagination. The new changes sound great btw! Did you make changes to the SQ of STBC and Not for You? these were the ones where my player was sounding a bit rough this morning, and I hadn't noticed it the night before.

I know you are busy today, so no need to answer right away....

tremors

myra wrote:

tremors wrote:

Yeah, I would rather cut one of the other bits than Act of Love or another 'proper' song. How about Improv 3? I know it adds to the mood, but it would be hard to justify compared to other songs I think. Am about to listen to the latest version.

I agree with this.

wolfamongwolves wrote:

On cutting it down, I think I'd take out the BS speech rather than Improv #3. But then I am rather partial to that improv.

And this.

Therefore, my post is totally useless. :roll: And I don't know what to cut off. That's tough... I'll have another listen on my way back from court later on, if I manage to get a completed download of the updated version before my case is called up.

Not useless, it's a tough decision. We're nearly there though, I am liking the Act of Love to the end section a lot better now. Good skills! I reckon we listen through a few more times before deciding what to cut. Taking account of any other feedback people post here as well

2-feign-reluctance

Act of Love sounds good to me too! Love that song!

tremors

2-feign-reluctance wrote:

Act of Love sounds good to me too! Love that song!

:thumbup:

Yeah I think it works in 'lifting' that section. Am going to have another complete run through of the whole of Version 2 shortly - and I will be listening out for places to 'cut'

TheRealDanPatch

tremors wrote:

tremors wrote:

Cameron4President wrote:

Version 2 now complete!! PM will be sent in the next 10 minutes.

Changes Made to V2:

-A few more additional SQ tweaks
-Added "Act of Love"
-Modified the Track List

Bad news is that we are now at a 1:54 over. The question now is "Do we cut Act of Love?" or "Do we keep it and cut something else?" Give it a listen and I will check back in sometime tomorrow. I am going to have a real busy day at work tomorrow and I will not be very active on this thread until very late in the day and/or night. So discuss and debate very well so that we can have a Version 3 ready to roll out on Thursday. V3 may be the final version we end up releasing at the rate we are going, all of this sounds great and we are very close. We will definitely have this ready for release by Saturday.

Hey Cameron4President, on the SQ, I seem to be getting more distortion on this one from the MP3s - what did you do? I've sometimes found this with your MP3s on my player - they 'break up' at higher volumes - the volume I need to listen to it at. I'm a bit funny about MP3s breaking up. I thought I noticed something similar on some of the 'official bootlegs' mp3s - my originals sounded clearer. Trouble is, on different devices the effect can be quite different. Overall the SQ on version 2 is sounding more problematic to me than V1 - what changes did you make? I'd been thinking the SQ on this collection was the best yet, but I'm running into problems again!

Hey Cameron4President, sorry of this post seems a bit harsh or uncharitable- was early morning!! It might have been in my imagination. The new changes sound great btw! Did you make changes to the SQ of STBC and Not for You? these were the ones where my player was sounding a bit rough this morning, and I hadn't noticed it the night before.

I know you are busy today, so no need to answer right away....

I only made changes on the SP tracks and the Melbourne tracks. In both cases I turned the sound slightly down on them so that shouldn't cause distortion. Its when you turn the sound up that can cause distortion which we experienced earlier in the week.

The SP tracks had very minor distortion on them during Version 1, so I had to turn them down a notch to elimate that problem.

The Melbourne tracks had some slight clicking noises, so I turned the sound down on that to make those not as noticable.

Let me know if you are still having SQ problems with these tracks and I can replace them with their Version 1 counterparts. Personally I thought the entire Version 2 mix sounded a 100% better than the version 1 mix, but if the SQ on Version 2 is a problem, then all changes can be reversed in seconds

TheRealDanPatch

metsfan wrote:

i say cut the speech or one the improvs


i noticed bout the who. must be that who radar i have. lol. someone fan did a who compilation and it was really amazing. probably the best compilation a fan has done besides green habit and this compilation that you are all doing.

Thanks for the kind words Metsfan. We are all having a great time doing these compilations and we do indeed have a Who project planned in the near future. I don't know if it will be our next one, but its in the pipeline.