Wait a minute. Correct me if I am wrong GST but aren't you one of those that says the Chinese deserve jobs too? If not I apologize in advance.
apology accepted. i have been railing against corporations who move jobs overseas to profit at the expense of the american worker for ages now. and i have said we can not fix this economy when corporations move their operations overseas for tax loopholes and dirt cheep labor. i think using cheep labor in sweatshops is wrong for many reasons, but look at what it is doing to our country and the lack of jobs here. it is criminal to give these corporations tax breaks to move overseas.
i am all for human rights and jobs for everyone, but we really need to take some time and work on our own domestic problems instead of going out and nation building when there are no jobs here and the corporations are robbing this government and it's tax payers blind.
I 100% agree with that.
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Some of us are. Shall we hold the politicians at gunpoint to get them to vote out favoritism to countries that supply us oil while oppressing others?
I believe the answer is already there, Ron Paul. Big media won't let that happen however and many Americans do not research a candidate before voting. It is sad that people are so oblivious.
I often post up comments about this on FB, I believe I gave you the link at one time. I figured you were not interested in my opinions since we never connected there. I think your idea of what I'm after politically would change had you read some of what I've said.
I asked about your country because I find that when I converse with someone that is not from the US it might give me a better understanding of that person's opinion if I knew a bit about them. It makes for a more thoughtful discussion, in my opinion. Don't be so defensive.
i've already said that if i could, i would vote for ron paul based on his foreign policy alone.
and as for the fb link, i do remember that. some of my workmates and i generously donated a small amount to the CCPI. great cause.
Ha!! Republicans actually blocked a bill last month that would have cut tax breaks to companies outsourcing, Obama was behind getting this bill passed. We give companies tax breaks if they outsource jobs, how fucked up is that!! Thank you GOP for killing the U.S. economy.
No, no, no. They aren't getting the tax breaks BECAUSE they outsource jobs. They get the tax breaks for other reasons and the bill was to remove those breaks if they did that.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Ha!! Republicans actually blocked a bill last month that would have cut tax breaks to companies outsourcing, Obama was behind getting this bill passed. We give companies tax breaks if they outsource jobs, how fucked up is that!! Thank you GOP for killing the U.S. economy.
No, no, no. They aren't getting the tax breaks BECAUSE they outsource jobs. They get the tax breaks for other reasons and the bill was to remove those breaks if they did that.
Democrat senator Harry Reid said, "The bill we tried to pass today is based on simple common sense: to keep American jobs here in America... but Republicans continued their job-killing agenda today by protecting these tax breaks for CEOs who offshore American jobs."
The majority senator claimed that Republican policies have cost 8 million Americans their jobs. "We should stop forcing taxpayers in Nevada and across the nation to pay for giveaways that reward companies for sending American jobs overseas."
Ha!! Republicans actually blocked a bill last month that would have cut tax breaks to companies outsourcing, Obama was behind getting this bill passed. We give companies tax breaks if they outsource jobs, how fucked up is that!! Thank you GOP for killing the U.S. economy.
No, no, no. They aren't getting the tax breaks BECAUSE they outsource jobs. They get the tax breaks for other reasons and the bill was to remove those breaks if they did that.
Democrat senator Harry Reid said, "The bill we tried to pass today is based on simple common sense: to keep American jobs here in America... but Republicans continued their job-killing agenda today by protecting these tax breaks for CEOs who offshore American jobs."
The majority senator claimed that Republican policies have cost 8 million Americans their jobs. "We should stop forcing taxpayers in Nevada and across the nation to pay for giveaways that reward companies for sending American jobs overseas."
The majority Senator is using politicspeak. There is no way the sole reason for the tax break is because the company sent some jobs overseas.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Democrat senator Harry Reid said, "The bill we tried to pass today is based on simple common sense: to keep American jobs here in America... but Republicans continued their job-killing agenda today by protecting these tax breaks for CEOs who offshore American jobs."
The majority senator claimed that Republican policies have cost 8 million Americans their jobs. "We should stop forcing taxpayers in Nevada and across the nation to pay for giveaways that reward companies for sending American jobs overseas."
for two million people to receive benefits for 99 weeks at 310 a wk it comes out to around 61,380,000,000. Seems like they can find that in the budget somewhere to cut, and that is all the GOP SHOULD want to be done...seems reasonable to me, but then again I am rather fiscally conservative, so that means I hate my fellow man and only care about myself :roll:
The short term heart felt answer is give people what they need to live, which happened for 99 WEEKS, the long term however is when we spend money we don't have it makes our dollar weak, it makes other countries more enticing to manufacturers who can get more for their weakened dollar. We cannot just print money and expect things to improve...
Gimmie had it right earlier, only allow tax breaks for companies that keep or create domestic jobs, and make companies pay a one time fee for each job they outsource to make it less attractive to do so.
that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
So has it been verified that only those that have gone 730 days without finding a job are losing their benefits? :?:
yes.
Hmm. I'll try not to sound like a cold-hearted W.M.A., but unless you are disabled or providing hospice care to a relative, then you are either lazy or incredibly incompetent if you have not held a job down during a 2 year span.
(i think i just sounded like a cold-hearted W.M.A. )
So has it been verified that only those that have gone 730 days without finding a job are losing their benefits? :?:
yes.
Hmm. I'll try not to sound like a cold-hearted W.M.A., but unless you are disabled or providing hospice care to a relative, then you are either lazy or incredibly incompetent if you have not held a job down during a 2 year span.
(i think i just sounded like a cold-hearted W.M.A. )
[Sounding like another cold-hearted W.M.A.] I will add to that if you are going 730 days without work, then you must not have a lot of personal pride either...
I get that if you lose a decently high paying job, you will be selective about finding another job... If I'm making good money and I lose that job, I'm not going to jump into a job making half that if I'm bringing in more in unemployment (I really don't know people make on unemployment). But, after a while, I think that my pride would get me out of the house and would take a couple of retail jobs or something lower paying in my field that could turn into something, or really anything...
And honestly, two years without some sort of work can't look good when applying for jobs, even in this economy.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Regarding being unemployed, I was without a job last year for 8 months before I got one, & I work in a dying field (publishing & printing). To those here who said that people with 2 years of being unemployed didn't try hard enough -- do you even know how difficult it is to find work in one's field right now (pending on one's field, of course)?
It's really easy to say such a thing when you haven't experienced being laid off this entire recession...
Under the new Department of Education rules, the unemployed will be denied federal aid loans to restart their careers because they would fall into this new catch 22 gainful employment rule that requires the DOE to decide if the career you selected would allow you to pay back your loan ‘while ensuring you can earn a living’.
Those schools that train students for a variety of technical positions, including automotive technician, computer technician, hairstylist, medical assistant, truck driver, a/c repair mechanics, electricians, locksmiths, business management, IT, administrative assistants, etc., etc.
Programs whose graduates carried debt-to-earnings ratios above 30 percent of discretionary income and 12 percent of total income, and where fewer than 35 percent of former students were paying down principal on their loans, would be ineligible for aid.
If you look at the current level of college graduates, who are unemployed or who have jobs that are not in their degree field of study, they would/will fall under this rule if they remain unemployed or become unemployed. This rule would also eliminate more than ½ the kids coming out of public school system who rely on technical schools for training, just to qualify for a job.
This is all based on a political agenda to reduced the federal government. What type of employment is left for these people to obtain? and How?
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
for two million people to receive benefits for 99 weeks at 310 a wk it comes out to around 61,380,000,000. Seems like they can find that in the budget somewhere to cut, ....
If they really wanted to cut the federal budget, they'd go after these farm subsidies. I'm not talking about lunch programs.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
GOP is fighting for extra tax cuts for the rich, but fail to extend benefits for American's. 310 dollars.... for rent, bills, and food..... Fuck that! Let's fight for tax cuts! :roll:
those of you on this board who support this shit should be ashamed of yourselves.....Sell outs!
GOP is fighting for extra tax cuts for the rich, but fail to extend benefits for American's. 310 dollars.... for rent, bills, and food..... Fuck that! Let's fight for tax cuts! :roll:
those of you on this board who support this shit should be ashamed of yourselves.....Sell outs!
but remember those cuts are the republicans stimulus plan
GOP is fighting for extra tax cuts for the rich, but fail to extend benefits for American's. 310 dollars.... for rent, bills, and food..... Fuck that! Let's fight for tax cuts! :roll:
those of you on this board who support this shit should be ashamed of yourselves.....Sell outs!
but remember those cuts are the republicans stimulus plan
if that is the case, then the republicans stimulus plan is about to fail miserably...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
GOP is fighting for extra tax cuts for the rich, but fail to extend benefits for American's. 310 dollars.... for rent, bills, and food..... Fuck that! Let's fight for tax cuts! :roll:
those of you on this board who support this shit should be ashamed of yourselves.....Sell outs!
but remember those cuts are the republicans stimulus plan
if that is the case, then the republicans stimulus plan is about to fail miserably...
the trickle down theory doesnt' work too well. its like the pigs at the feast sometimes deciding to throw the dogs a bone.....that bone is is the trickle down theory.
it hasnt' worked in the past. for some reason these hardliners stick to it like gospel.
GOP is fighting for extra tax cuts for the rich, but fail to extend benefits for American's. 310 dollars.... for rent, bills, and food..... Fuck that! Let's fight for tax cuts! :roll:
those of you on this board who support this shit should be ashamed of yourselves.....Sell outs!
but remember those cuts are the republicans stimulus plan
I don't know what side of the fence you're on, but last I checked these tax cuts have been in play since 2001/2003.... When was the economy stimulated cause I missed it? And so did the company I was working for (cut 10,000+ jobs). Who suffers more, the wealthiest 2% or the folks making $50,000 or less? Who's benefiting from the current economy the 2% of the wealthiest american's or the 2 million still unemployed?
Tax cuts are good, but don't seem to be benefiting everyone....
GOP is fighting for extra tax cuts for the rich, but fail to extend benefits for American's. 310 dollars.... for rent, bills, and food..... Fuck that! Let's fight for tax cuts! :roll:
those of you on this board who support this shit should be ashamed of yourselves.....Sell outs!
but remember those cuts are the republicans stimulus plan
I don't know what side of the fence you're on, but last I checked these tax cuts have been in play since 2001/2003.... When was the economy stimulated cause I missed it? And so did the company I was working for (cut 10,000+ jobs). Who suffers more, the wealthiest 2% or the folks making $50,000 or less? Who's benefiting from the current economy the 2% of the wealthiest american's or the 2 million still unemployed?
Tax cuts are good, but don't seem to be benefiting everyone....
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I 100% agree with that.
Thank you.
No, no, no. They aren't getting the tax breaks BECAUSE they outsource jobs. They get the tax breaks for other reasons and the bill was to remove those breaks if they did that.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
In other words, sell out the future for the short term present?
That's the mindset that got us into this economic crisis to begin with.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/anti- ... e-55564?cp
The majority Senator is using politicspeak. There is no way the sole reason for the tax break is because the company sent some jobs overseas.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Your source is Harry Reid????
That is priceless.
The short term heart felt answer is give people what they need to live, which happened for 99 WEEKS, the long term however is when we spend money we don't have it makes our dollar weak, it makes other countries more enticing to manufacturers who can get more for their weakened dollar. We cannot just print money and expect things to improve...
Gimmie had it right earlier, only allow tax breaks for companies that keep or create domestic jobs, and make companies pay a one time fee for each job they outsource to make it less attractive to do so.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
- Joe Rogan
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
(i think i just sounded like a cold-hearted W.M.A. )
[Sounding like another cold-hearted W.M.A.] I will add to that if you are going 730 days without work, then you must not have a lot of personal pride either...
I get that if you lose a decently high paying job, you will be selective about finding another job... If I'm making good money and I lose that job, I'm not going to jump into a job making half that if I'm bringing in more in unemployment (I really don't know people make on unemployment). But, after a while, I think that my pride would get me out of the house and would take a couple of retail jobs or something lower paying in my field that could turn into something, or really anything...
And honestly, two years without some sort of work can't look good when applying for jobs, even in this economy.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
My source is common sense.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
It's really easy to say such a thing when you haven't experienced being laid off this entire recession...
Under the new Department of Education rules, the unemployed will be denied federal aid loans to restart their careers because they would fall into this new catch 22 gainful employment rule that requires the DOE to decide if the career you selected would allow you to pay back your loan ‘while ensuring you can earn a living’.
Those schools that train students for a variety of technical positions, including automotive technician, computer technician, hairstylist, medical assistant, truck driver, a/c repair mechanics, electricians, locksmiths, business management, IT, administrative assistants, etc., etc.
Programs whose graduates carried debt-to-earnings ratios above 30 percent of discretionary income and 12 percent of total income, and where fewer than 35 percent of former students were paying down principal on their loans, would be ineligible for aid.
If you look at the current level of college graduates, who are unemployed or who have jobs that are not in their degree field of study, they would/will fall under this rule if they remain unemployed or become unemployed. This rule would also eliminate more than ½ the kids coming out of public school system who rely on technical schools for training, just to qualify for a job.
This is all based on a political agenda to reduced the federal government. What type of employment is left for these people to obtain? and How?
If they really wanted to cut the federal budget, they'd go after these farm subsidies. I'm not talking about lunch programs.
http://farm.ewg.org/region.php?fips=00000
those of you on this board who support this shit should be ashamed of yourselves.....Sell outs!
but remember those cuts are the republicans stimulus plan
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
it hasnt' worked in the past. for some reason these hardliners stick to it like gospel.
I don't know what side of the fence you're on, but last I checked these tax cuts have been in play since 2001/2003.... When was the economy stimulated cause I missed it? And so did the company I was working for (cut 10,000+ jobs). Who suffers more, the wealthiest 2% or the folks making $50,000 or less? Who's benefiting from the current economy the 2% of the wealthiest american's or the 2 million still unemployed?
Tax cuts are good, but don't seem to be benefiting everyone....
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