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  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,893
    Just joined on the 17th lap
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  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    Once again, cannot wait for the new rules. Most of the field lapped. Penalties are not a deterrent for Mercedes, and now they have a fresh engine for the final races. Lewis will be champion again.
    no denying he is the best driver, but the car has a lot to do with it also

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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    Everyone says its the car.  That was one of the most impressive weekends I have ever seen by a driver.  The pass on Lando in the sprint race was insane. Mercedes rallied and found more pace with the new engine. Popular opinion is that the next three tracks work in Mercedes favor. They said the same about Austin.  Going to be an exciting finish for sure!
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    No denying he was on a mission this weekend 
    but put him in an Alpha Romeo and see how he does
    (let’s see the difference between Russel and Bottas going forward)

    yes, hopefully it is an exciting finish
    I find the Middle East tracks boring though, hopefully the drivers will keep it interesting 
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    Clearly a difference between the Alpha and the Merc.  Not so sure about the Red Bull though, Max was faster in Austin. What was impressive about Brazil is how Mercedes responded. They have not been dominant this year. Lewis put on a masterclass in overtaking this weekend. 
    Yeah hard to get excited about the last three locations, but looking forward to more of the battle that has entertained me all season!
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    erebus said:
    Once again, cannot wait for the new rules. Most of the field lapped. Penalties are not a deterrent for Mercedes, and now they have a fresh engine for the final races. Lewis will be champion again.
    no denying he is the best driver, but the car has a lot to do with it also

    I'm not a big Lewis fan, but Lewis in that car is symetry. Bottas is world class, and he doesn't get near the results Hamilton does. 

    This reminds me about Trulli (I think) about 10-15 years ago. He started putting an inferior Honda (?) high on the grid for several races. Something happened with the Ferrari drivers and they offered Trulli an in-season conract to join the team. It was his dream job, but he couldn't drive the thing. He just couldn't figure it out and he was all over the shop. 

    But, yes, I'm looking forward to the new rules. Hopefully we get more teams competing for the title.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right said:
    Everyone says its the car.  That was one of the most impressive weekends I have ever seen by a driver.  The pass on Lando in the sprint race was insane. Mercedes rallied and found more pace with the new engine. Popular opinion is that the next three tracks work in Mercedes favor. They said the same about Austin.  Going to be an exciting finish for sure!
    It is both.  I am not a Hamilton fan but no denying he is one of the best.  That car is also insane, it's another class of racing in comparison to the rest of the field, slightly less so against the Red Bull.

    eddiec said:
    erebus said:
    Once again, cannot wait for the new rules. Most of the field lapped. Penalties are not a deterrent for Mercedes, and now they have a fresh engine for the final races. Lewis will be champion again.
    no denying he is the best driver, but the car has a lot to do with it also

    I'm not a big Lewis fan, but Lewis in that car is symetry. Bottas is world class, and he doesn't get near the results Hamilton does. 

    This reminds me about Trulli (I think) about 10-15 years ago. He started putting an inferior Honda (?) high on the grid for several races. Something happened with the Ferrari drivers and they offered Trulli an in-season conract to join the team. It was his dream job, but he couldn't drive the thing. He just couldn't figure it out and he was all over the shop. 

    But, yes, I'm looking forward to the new rules. Hopefully we get more teams competing for the title.
    Wasn't that Fisichella, who was racing with FI and got called up to Ferrari when Massa got Barrachello's spring in the head?
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959


    eddiec said:
    erebus said:
    Once again, cannot wait for the new rules. Most of the field lapped. Penalties are not a deterrent for Mercedes, and now they have a fresh engine for the final races. Lewis will be champion again.
    no denying he is the best driver, but the car has a lot to do with it also

    I'm not a big Lewis fan, but Lewis in that car is symetry. Bottas is world class, and he doesn't get near the results Hamilton does. 

    This reminds me about Trulli (I think) about 10-15 years ago. He started putting an inferior Honda (?) high on the grid for several races. Something happened with the Ferrari drivers and they offered Trulli an in-season conract to join the team. It was his dream job, but he couldn't drive the thing. He just couldn't figure it out and he was all over the shop. 

    But, yes, I'm looking forward to the new rules. Hopefully we get more teams competing for the title.
    Wasn't that Fisichella, who was racing with FI and got called up to Ferrari when Massa got Barrachello's spring in the head?

    You're right. I remembered it was one of the Italian drivers.
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    Well, Max is in tough now with the penalty. I hope this isn’t one of those races where Lewis laps the field. I foresee him building a huge gap
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  • Gasley will be good to watch from p2


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  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    Damage limited for Max, I still think Lewis wins overall.
    great for Alonso
    Gasley really fell off
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  • DavidD
    DavidD Posts: 2,543
    That’s was great from Alonso. 
    And I agree, Hamilton looks like a man on a mission, if he keeps it up it will be hard for max to beat him. 
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    edited November 2021
    Not a particularly interesting race other than the tires going out on those that tried to make it a one stopper. I thought the penalties for Max and Bottas were total BS. Mercedes dropped the ball with Valteri. Lewis' Merc is so dialed right now it will be tough to beat.
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,893
    Checo should have been the driver of the day. Even though both contenders are totally indifferent to me, I think #33 will win the 2021 championship.
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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Get_Right said:
    Not a particularly interesting race other than the tires going out on those that tried to make it a one stopper. I thought the penalties for Max and Bottas were total BS. Mercedes dropped the ball with Valteri. Lewis' Merc is so dialed right now it will be tough to beat.
    Well said, I hope we never see that track in action again.
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,108
    BIG weekend coming up!  Qually and race should be interesting.  Will Max pull it off for Honda or will it be more of the same Merc domination?   
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    I think Hamilton’s late season engine replacement will be the slight difference he needs for another title
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    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
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  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    The track looks fast, but doesn’t look like a lot of places for passing opportunities 
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    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
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    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • DavidD
    DavidD Posts: 2,543
    Max had that today. Let see how well Bottas can defend tomorrow 
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 610
    I predict many safety cars today, many cars hitting walls, especially after the tires wear
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    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
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    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II