Woman in iran to be executed.

Godfather.

this is wrong..what kind of people would do this ?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/11/ ... tml?hpt=T2

Godfather.

Cosmo

The Death Penalty is a GOOD thing, right?
Don't do the crime against God, if you can't do the punishment as defined by God in the Holy Text.

Byrnzie

Godfather. wrote:

what kind of people would do this ?

The same people who support the death penalty in America?

lukin2006

and CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brock Samson

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

what kind of people would do this ?

The same people who support the death penalty in America?

since when do you get the death penalty in america for adultery?

also, this is a story about something happening in iran, why bring up the death penalty in america? totally unnecessary.

catefrances

Brock Samson wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

what kind of people would do this ?

The same people who support the death penalty in America?

since when do you get the death penalty in america for adultery?

also, this is a story about something happening in iran, why bring up the death penalty in america? totally unnecessary.

well cause the death penalty is barbaric no matter what the crime.

Cosmo

Brock Samson wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

what kind of people would do this ?

The same people who support the death penalty in America?

since when do you get the death penalty in america for adultery?

also, this is a story about something happening in iran, why bring up the death penalty in america? totally unnecessary.

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I think the point is... a Death Penalty is a Death Penalty.
You may not think adultery is a crime... but, to religious people, it is. It is in the Ten Commandments and the punishment is spelled out in the Bible, death. In Iran... there is no separation of church and state... church and state are one.
Exodus 20:14
"You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22
"If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."
Leviticus 20:10
"If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."
Matthew 19:9
"I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."
Mark 10:11
"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her."
Mark 10:12
"And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."
Luke 16:18
"Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery."
...
Aren't you glad you live in a country where church and state are separated and we don't form our laws from the Bible?

Byrnzie

Brock Samson wrote:

also, this is a story about something happening in iran, why bring up the death penalty in america? totally unnecessary.

I'm a real stickler for a bit of perspective.

Byrnzie

lukin2006 wrote:

and CHINA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, and China.

The death penalty is pointless and barbaric no matter who's pulling the trigger, or switch.

gimmesometruth27

it looks as if she will avoid stoning, but she will be hanged...god help her...

Iran stoning case woman to be 'hanged'

Human rights group claims Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani is to be executed for murder instead of adultery

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/no ... i-ashtiani

An Iranian woman whose sentence of execution by stoning for adultery provoked a worldwide outcry will instead be hanged for murder on Wednesday, a human rights group has said.

"The authorities in Tehran have given the go-ahead to Tabriz prison for the execution … Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani," the International Committee Against Stoning (Icas), a German-based campaign group, said on its website.

"It has been reported that she is to be executed this Wednesday, 3 November."

Officials in Iran were unavailable to confirm or deny the report.

Ashtiani's stoning was suspended after prominent political and religious figures called the sentence "medieval", "barbaric" and "brutal". Brazil, a close ally of Iran's, offered to grant asylum to the 43-year-old mother of two.

A government spokesman said in September that Ashtiani's adultery conviction was under review but the charge of being complicit in the murder of her husband was still pending.

Under the law in force in Iran since the 1979 Islamic revolution, murder is punishable by hanging, and adultery by stoning.

The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, fended off questions about the case from reporters when he attended the UN general assembly in September, condemning what he called the fabrications of hostile western media and denouncing the US as hypocritical for its capital punishment record.

The case has worsened relations between Iran and the west, which are locked in a dispute over Tehran's nuclear programme and were further complicated last month when two Germans were arrested in Iran while conducting an interview with Ashtiani's son.

The pair entered Iran with tourist visas and were not authorised to act as journalists, judicial officials said. The German government is trying to secure their release.

In August, Iranian television aired an interview with a woman it said was Ashtiani admitting a relationship with a man who had gone on to murder her husband. Icas called the TV show "toxic propaganda".

The US has imposed sanctions on eight senior Iranian officials, including the commander of the Revolutionary Guards and several cabinet ministers, for human rights abuses.

That is in addition to the sanctions over Iran's nuclear activities, which it fears are aimed at making an atomic bomb, something Tehran denies.

According to Amnesty International, Iran is second only to China in the number of executions it carries out, having put to death at least 346 people in 2008.



An image of Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani held during a rally in support of her in front of the Iranian embassy in Rome in September

Smellyman

I know some on this board advocate going to war with Iran which would kill thousands upon thousands just like her.

Lets put a stop to practices like this without killing another million?

sound good?

gimmesometruth27

Smellyman wrote:

I know some on this board advocate going to war with Iran which would kill thousands upon thousands just like her.

Lets put a stop to practices like this without killing another million?

sound good?

as long as religion guides policy, and there is a need for revenge it will never stop.

Drowned Out

As fucked up as this case is, and as deserved the outrage...we have to ask why this is drawing so much attention. Of all the attrocities that occur thoughout the world on a daily basis, why has this one become the focus of so much more scorn than any other?
There is an undeniable agenda in Western media to demonize Iran, that's why.
From the well-documented, MULTIPLE, and endlessly repeated misquotes of Ahmadinejad, to the misleading reports on their nuclear program, to the bullshit spewed at us throughout their elections...


Food for thought:
The Iran Threat in the Age of Real-Axis-of-Evil Expansion

Iran and Honduras in the Propaganda System:Part 1 Neda Agha-Soltan versus Isis Obed Murillo

Iran and Honduras in the Propaganda System:Pt 2 2009 Iranian and Honduran Elections

Godfather.

Byrnzie..Cosmo you both need a chill pill now go play on the freeway like good boys.

Godfather.

Cosmo

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie..Cosmo you both need a chill pill now go play on the freeway like good boys.

Godfather.

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Why?
I'm just pointing out that to them, adultery is spelled out in their religion as a crime that is punishable by death. They live in a theocracy where the church and state are one. They take their religion seriously.
Turns out, the Christian Bible says the exact same thing, but we, here in American know that the Seventh Commandment is complete bullshit and don't follow it. It's a good thing we don't take our religion seriously.
I am GLAD we aren't a Christian nation that builds it laws on Christian texts, otherwise we'd all have to follow those bullshit commandments like adultery and working on Sunday. Give me the Ten Amendments over the Ten Commandments, any day.

TriumphantAngel

Brock Samson wrote:

also, this is a story about something happening in iran, why bring up the death penalty in america? totally unnecessary.

it's necessary because the media frenzy over this womans situation is nothing more than propoganda to drum up the image of Iran as a backwards and barbaric state and to further the U.S. agenda for a push for war with Iran.

the U.S. is so good at sitting on their high horse and demonizing the actions taken by the leaders of other countries who generally have vastly different social norms, cultural attitudes, and ideological differences while in some ways they are no better themselves.

get off your soap box America. state sanctioned murder under any circumstances is barbaric and backward.

hypocrites.

Godfather.

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie..Cosmo you both need a chill pill now go play on the freeway like good boys.

Godfather.

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Why?
I'm just pointing out that to them, adultery is spelled out in their religion as a crime that is punishable by death. They live in a theocracy where the church and state are one. They take their religion seriously.
Turns out, the Christian Bible says the exact same thing, but we, here in American know that the Seventh Commandment is complete bullshit and don't follow it. It's a good thing we don't take our religion seriously.
I am GLAD we aren't a Christian nation that builds it laws on Christian texts, otherwise we'd all have to follow those bullshit commandments like adultery and working on Sunday. Give me the Ten Amendments over the Ten Commandments, any day.

as you wish

Godfather.

polaris_x

interesting thing ... i'm sure most people here are outraged that a country would torture a woman into confession ... YET - we have omar khadr ... different country doing the torture and people have a different view ... why is that!??

time to check that moral compass and make sure it works in all directions ...

Electric_Delta

Cosmo wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Byrnzie..Cosmo you both need a chill pill now go play on the freeway like good boys.

Godfather.

...
Why?
I'm just pointing out that to them, adultery is spelled out in their religion as a crime that is punishable by death. They live in a theocracy where the church and state are one. They take their religion seriously.
Turns out, the Christian Bible says the exact same thing, but we, here in American know that the Seventh Commandment is complete bullshit and don't follow it. It's a good thing we don't take our religion seriously.
I am GLAD we aren't a Christian nation that builds it laws on Christian texts, otherwise we'd all have to follow those bullshit commandments like adultery and working on Sunday. Give me the Ten Amendments over the Ten Commandments, any day.

Yeah, I agree. Our society used to have principles. Now that it doesn't things are so much better.

I especially like how our kids have The Situation and Lady Gaga to look up to.

Why, IT'S A TRUE AGE OF REASON!

Electric_Delta

TriumphantAngel wrote:

Brock Samson wrote:

also, this is a story about something happening in iran, why bring up the death penalty in america? totally unnecessary.

it's necessary because the media frenzy over this womans situation is nothing more than propoganda to drum up the image of Iran as a backwards and barbaric state and to further the U.S. agenda for a push for war with Iran.

the U.S. is so good at sitting on their high horse and demonizing the actions taken by the leaders of other countries who generally have vastly different social norms, cultural attitudes, and ideological differences while in some ways they are no better themselves.

get off your soap box America. state sanctioned murder under any circumstances is barbaric and backward.

hypocrites.

Barbaric? I guess the murderers are not?

pdalowsky

You can spew as much bullshit as you like about this.

America may do it

China may do it.....

it may be religious

it may be law.

but at the end of the day it pure stupidity, and it is absolutely right for anyone with a brain to demonise the crazy fucking loons who are handing out this womans punishment and it seems threatening to carry it through behind closed doors.

I think everyone strives for a civilised society.....this is backwards beyond belief....and the fact its so shrouded in secrecy speaks for itself.

I wouldnt step foot in Iran if you paid me too. Call me a bigot, call me uncultured, call me what you like, but i dont get it, and they seem utterly bonkers when they start talking nonsense about the wests desire to interfere.....i think anyone who thinks clearly will see how devestatingly wrong this is.

Now if the wests involvement in Irans nuclear is wrong who knows, but anyone capable of stoning a defenceless woman to death on a dodgy conviction for sleeping with another human, is definitely capable of lying over its nuclear intentions....

Religions great isnt it? all based on mythical ideology and fantasy, and causes evil daily around the world....I'll opt out ta