Letting noncitizens vote?????

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner.
    American citizens have a right to vote. None citizens do not. Now if a none citizen wants to vote than they need to follow the proper procedures.....Just because they live here for years means nothing as far as voting goes. They know if they want to keep there foreign citizenship they will not have the right to vote. Plain and simple!

    I have been driving for 40 years Why the hell do I have to get a drivers license, I know how to drive…GET IT!
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    Driving is a privilege and not a right. At least, we know that difference.
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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    aerial wrote:
    The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner.
    American citizens have a right to vote. None citizens do not. Now if a none citizen wants to vote than they need to follow the proper procedures.....Just because they live here for years means nothing as far as voting goes. They know if they want to keep there foreign citizenship they will not have the right to vote. Plain and simple!

    I have been driving for 40 years Why the hell do I have to get a drivers license, I know how to drive…GET IT!

    Im a foreigner and a citizen. What an ignorant comment.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Open wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner.
    American citizens have a right to vote. None citizens do not. Now if a none citizen wants to vote than they need to follow the proper procedures.....Just because they live here for years means nothing as far as voting goes. They know if they want to keep there foreign citizenship they will not have the right to vote. Plain and simple!

    I have been driving for 40 years Why the hell do I have to get a drivers license, I know how to drive…GET IT!

    Im a foreigner and a citizen. What an ignorant comment.
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    But, has come to be expected.
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Open wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner.
    American citizens have a right to vote. None citizens do not. Now if a none citizen wants to vote than they need to follow the proper procedures.....Just because they live here for years means nothing as far as voting goes. They know if they want to keep there foreign citizenship they will not have the right to vote. Plain and simple!

    I have been driving for 40 years Why the hell do I have to get a drivers license, I know how to drive…GET IT!

    Im a foreigner and a citizen. What an ignorant comment.
    Than you can vote...and I hope you do! :D
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Open wrote:
    Im a foreigner and a citizen. What an ignorant comment.
    Than you can vote...and I hope you do! :D
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    But... he admitted... he is a foriegner. You said we didn't know the difference... so, what is the difference? Are you now saying you think 'foriegners' should vote?
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner.
    American citizens have a right to vote. None citizens do not. Now if a none citizen wants to vote than they need to follow the proper procedures.....Just because they live here for years means nothing as far as voting goes. They know if they want to keep there foreign citizenship they will not have the right to vote. Plain and simple!

    I have been driving for 40 years Why the hell do I have to get a drivers license, I know how to drive…GET IT!
    ...
    Driving is a privilege and not a right. At least, we know that difference.

    I don't believe that and never have but thats what the state of california will have you believe so that they can take a much money as they can for that RIGHT, who told you/us it was a privilege..thats bullshit in my opinion.

    Godfather.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    edited October 2010
    Godfather. wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner.
    American citizens have a right to vote. None citizens do not. Now if a none citizen wants to vote than they need to follow the proper procedures.....Just because they live here for years means nothing as far as voting goes. They know if they want to keep there foreign citizenship they will not have the right to vote. Plain and simple!

    I have been driving for 40 years Why the hell do I have to get a drivers license, I know how to drive…GET IT!
    ...
    Driving is a privilege and not a right. At least, we know that difference.

    I don't believe that and never have but thats what the state of california will have you believe so that they can take a much money as they can for that RIGHT, who told you/us it was a privilege..thats bullshit in my opinion.

    Godfather.
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    Simple.
    If it were a right... it would mean that everyone that is born here has the right to drive, correct?
    Then, why aren't we given Drivers Licenses? And where does the Constitution say we have a right to drive? Where is your federal drivers license? And if it were a right, wouldn't it be unconstitutional to revoke or suspend your drivers license? Also... wouldn't blind people have the RIGHT to drive?
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    If it is a privilege... it would have to be granted to you after you meet certain obligations. One of those obligations would be to apply for a drivers license from the issuing state. The state and its courts can revoke or suspend/restrict your driving privileges if you abuse it.
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    And yes... you can say it is bullshit, in your opinion. Your opinion does not have to be true or founded in fact and remain a complete fabrication that only exists in the confines of your intellect.
    Post edited by Cosmo on
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    Open wrote:
    Im a foreigner and a citizen. What an ignorant comment.
    Than you can vote...and I hope you do! :D
    ...
    But... he admitted... he is a foriegner. You said we didn't know the difference... so, what is the difference? Are you now saying you think 'foriegners' should vote?
    He also said he is a citizen.
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    He also said he is a citizen.
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    And there is your conundrum...
    "The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner."
    - aerial
    He is a Citizen... who you say CAN vote...
    He is a Foreigner... who you say should not be allowed to vote.
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    He also said he is a citizen.
    ...
    And there is your conundrum...
    "The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner."
    - aerial
    He is a Citizen... who you say CAN vote...
    He is a Foreigner... who you say should not be allowed to vote.

    Definition of FOREIGNER
    1: a person belonging to or owing allegiance to a foreign country
    2chiefly dialect : one not native to a place or community : stranger 1c

    Definition of CITIZEN
    1: an inhabitant of a city or town; especially : one entitled to the rights and privileges of a freeman
    2a : a member of a state b : a native or naturalized person who owes allegiance to a government and is entitled to protection from it
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Well, now that AERIAL said so, Open... You are okay.



    Glad we cleared that up guys.
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    aerial wrote:
    He also said he is a citizen.
    ...
    And there is your conundrum...
    "The Problem here is some of you do not know the difference between an American citizens and foreigner."
    - aerial
    He is a Citizen... who you say CAN vote...
    He is a Foreigner... who you say should not be allowed to vote.

    Definition of FOREIGNER
    1: a person belonging to or owing allegiance to a foreign country
    2chiefly dialect : one not native to a place or community : stranger 1c

    Definition of CITIZEN
    1: an inhabitant of a city or town; especially : one entitled to the rights and privileges of a freeman
    2a : a member of a state b : a native or naturalized person who owes allegiance to a government and is entitled to protection from it
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    All right... so, it's finally settled... you say it's okay for foriegners to vote here.
    I'm glad because I really don't want to report Open to the INS.
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    Hail, Hail!!!