Letting noncitizens vote?????

acoustic guy
acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
edited October 2010 in A Moving Train
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10 ... zens-vote/

Please tell me where it ends?
Do any of you Liberals believe anyone on the planet should be able to come and go in the U.S. as they please and get all the rights we get just because they live here? Even though they do so illegally?

Its just not right...
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    acoustic guy wrote:
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/24/states-weigh-letting-noncitizens-vote/

    Please tell me where it ends?
    Do any of you Liberals believe anyone on the planet should be able to come and go in the U.S. as they please and get all the rights we get just because they live here? Even though they do so illegally?

    Its just not right...
    I agree.
    However, I think if one is a taxpaying, permanent legal resident, they should be allowed. Just my $0.02.
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  • maj4e
    maj4e Posts: 605
    from the article "legal immigrants who are city residents"
    There is a huge difference between a legal green card carrying resident and an illegal alien.

    Calm down with the righteous indignation
  • acoustic guy
    acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    maj4e wrote:
    from the article "legal immigrants who are city residents"
    There is a huge difference between a legal green card carrying resident and an illegal alien.

    Calm down with the righteous indignation
    Its only the first step. Next thing you know its anyone who walks the streets in the U.S.
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
    Sweep the Leg Johnny.
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Just imagine what this could do for tourism during election year. People from all around can come to America to decide who "THEY" want as a leader for "US".
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    i love this reason to be against it...

    taken from the article...

    "My primary objection is I don't think it is right, I don't think it is just, I don't think it is fair," Portland resident Barbara Campbell Harvey said.

    now i am convinced :roll:


    it is for elections on a LOCAL level, nothing statewide or federal...
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    hell NO !!! they shouldn't even be here unless they're legal....theres an idea, when they come to the poles to vote arrest them and deport their butts. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    it is for elections on a LOCAL level, nothing statewide or federal...

    This is why it's ok with me...

    if you are a legal city resident, paying taxes, etc etc etc, then you should have a voice in your local or city government. You could own a business... your kids go to city schools, etc... you should have some input.

    I don't believe that non-citizens should be able to vote in federal elections, but I'd have to think about state elections...
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  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Godfather. wrote:
    hell NO !!! they shouldn't even be here unless they're legal....theres an idea, when they come to the poles to vote arrest them and deport their butts. :lol:

    Godfather.

    but they are legal................

    in fairness your better than that :roll:
  • arthurdent
    arthurdent Posts: 969
    Godfather. wrote:
    when they come to the poles

    I don't understand why you oppose immigrants working as strippers... they're just taking jobs that Americans don't want :roll:
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    arthurdent wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    when they come to the poles

    I don't understand why you oppose immigrants working as strippers... they're just taking jobs that Americans don't want :roll:

    Strippers ????? :lol: ask your wife or girl friend what they think of that. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    acoustic guy wrote:
    maj4e wrote:
    from the article "legal immigrants who are city residents"
    There is a huge difference between a legal green card carrying resident and an illegal alien.

    Calm down with the righteous indignation
    Its only the first step. Next thing you know its anyone who walks the streets in the U.S.

    Because once you allow legal residents to have a say in what their local municipal governments do, of course the completely logical next step is to give illegal immigrants and tourists the right to vote for the U.S. president. :roll:
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Just imagine what this could do for tourism during election year. People from all around can come to America to decide who "THEY" want as a leader for "US".

    You do know there's a big difference between "legal resident" and "tourist" right? It takes a freaking long time to become a legal resident - it's a several year process, during which time you've paid Uncle Sam taxes, as well as paying the U.S. government several thousand dollars worth of fees.
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Just imagine what this could do for tourism during election year. People from all around can come to America to decide who "THEY" want as a leader for "US".

    You do know there's a big difference between "legal resident" and "tourist" right? It takes a freaking long time to become a legal resident - it's a several year process, during which time you've paid Uncle Sam taxes, as well as paying the U.S. government several thousand dollars worth of fees.


    Yeah, umm....it was suposed to be an unfunny joke.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    edited October 2010
    acoustic guy wrote:
    maj4e wrote:
    from the article "legal immigrants who are city residents"
    There is a huge difference between a legal green card carrying resident and an illegal alien.

    Calm down with the righteous indignation
    Its only the first step. Next thing you know its anyone who walks the streets in the U.S.
    Let me ask you this. My mom's Canadian, my dad's American. When we lived in the US, my mom was a legal resident who worked and paid taxes. I believe she should've had a say to where her taxes go. I feel the same about my dad who's an American and couldn't vote in the Canadian municipal election. What do you think?
    Post edited by keeponrockin on
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  • redrock
    redrock Posts: 18,341
    edited October 2010
    blackredyellow wrote:
    This is why it's ok with me...

    if you are a legal city resident, paying taxes, etc etc etc, then you should have a voice in your local or city government. You could own a business... your kids go to city schools, etc... you should have some input.

    I don't believe that non-citizens should be able to vote in federal elections, but I'd have to think about state elections...

    As long as someone is legally resident, works, pays taxes and contributes fully to the community and economy, this person should have the right to vote in ALL elections as federal laws and rules apply to them as well.
    Post edited by redrock on
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Just imagine what this could do for tourism during election year. People from all around can come to America to decide who "THEY" want as a leader for "US".

    You do know there's a big difference between "legal resident" and "tourist" right? It takes a freaking long time to become a legal resident - it's a several year process, during which time you've paid Uncle Sam taxes, as well as paying the U.S. government several thousand dollars worth of fees.

    It's a 2-5 year arduous process and just weed through a mountain of paperwork one must hire a immigration lawyer so that it doesn't last past 5 years.

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  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Just imagine what this could do for tourism during election year. People from all around can come to America to decide who "THEY" want as a leader for "US".

    You do know there's a big difference between "legal resident" and "tourist" right? It takes a freaking long time to become a legal resident - it's a several year process, during which time you've paid Uncle Sam taxes, as well as paying the U.S. government several thousand dollars worth of fees.


    Yeah, umm....it was suposed to be an unfunny joke.

    Maybe elections should be like the BCS...

    Well, 73% of foreigners voted for Candidate X, but since their vote counts for only 20%, that'll be hard to overcome the computer polls who clearly favor Candidate Y based on his margin of victory in the primary...
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • cajunkiwi
    cajunkiwi Posts: 984
    g under p wrote:
    cajunkiwi wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Just imagine what this could do for tourism during election year. People from all around can come to America to decide who "THEY" want as a leader for "US".

    You do know there's a big difference between "legal resident" and "tourist" right? It takes a freaking long time to become a legal resident - it's a several year process, during which time you've paid Uncle Sam taxes, as well as paying the U.S. government several thousand dollars worth of fees.

    It's a 2-5 year arduous process and just weed through a mountain of paperwork one must hire a immigration lawyer so that it doesn't last past 5 years.

    Peace

    Yep - I finished that "arduous process" not too long ago. I would say I never want to fill out another form in triplicate again, but I know I'll have to if I want citizenship :lol:
    And I listen for the voice inside my head... nothing. I'll do this one myself.
  • bgivens33
    bgivens33 Posts: 290
    keeponrockin wrote:
    acoustic guy wrote:
    maj4e wrote:
    from the article "legal immigrants who are city residents"
    There is a huge difference between a legal green card carrying resident and an illegal alien.

    Calm down with the righteous indignation
    Its only the first step. Next thing you know its anyone who walks the streets in the U.S.
    Let me ask you this. My mom's Canadian, my dad's American. When we lived in the US, my mom was a legal resident who worked and paid taxes. I believe she should've had a say to where her taxes go. I feel the same about my dad who's an American and couldn't vote in the Canadian municipal election. What do you think?

    I'd say she should have your dad write his congressman and petition to get the constitution amended...
  • unsung
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    keeponrockin wrote:
    I agree.
    However, I think if one is a taxpaying, permanent legal resident, they should be allowed. Just my $0.02.

    I disagree. Attaining the right to vote should be incentive to gain citizenship.

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