Please pardon me ... I don't understand? I was wearing a Pantera Shirt.
Oh this is hysterical...
Stop! Stop! Stop!
They are free! Dr. Suess wrote Green Eggs And Ham as a Dare. This is so funny... A movie?
Three Documentaries were not enough! Beat a dead horse to make sure it's dead. Find it a sponser? Endorse the heck out of it. But, make sure you put a slug through it's brain too make DaMN Sure it's dead. Anyone see "Zomieland"? Double Tap , Folks.
Hell No They will not be a Babysister if I needed one!
Sorry my very low IQ makes me crazy. Can Joesph help? or Damien?
12/20/11 ... update.. locking the doors.
Who is this Miranda Guy anyway? Was that an 80's hit? or any early 90's dance song Mocrerna? It's a shame I'm stupid and never had a Full college edumetcation.
So many Hate!... Mr. Troy died the Same day! (he did not have a fan club only a shitty lawyer) California is strange too! Put them on death row to make the post office suffer with bags of "FAN MAIL". Taxes... where do they go? The tower at U.T. .... it was locals that got him. TX had enough! There was no swat team back then! Texans with too much paticence, Juan Seguin.
Please Help ! They All Have A slowness (IQ deficient)? Everytime the story is changed! Damien, Joesph , or Jessie? who is the Forrest Gump? I can teach Right from Wrong. I would rather die than confess to something I didn't do? I spent four years with mentally challegened kids. They like hugs and Pop o matic bubble, Sorry and Trouble (the board games). Jessie Mis Kell is not slow, Is Damien? Some reports say Joesph? Oh I love Media.
I'm a little disappointed in Paradise Lost 3. I thought it was too easy on Terry Hobbs. They really should have shown more of his violent background, his changing versions of his story, etc.
http://filmguide.sundance.org/film/1200 ... of_memphis
For many people, the case of the West Memphis Three has become synonymous with wrongful conviction. Despite a lack of physical evidence, three Arkansas teenagers were found guilty in 1994 of the ritual murder of three eight-year-old boys. Media attention led to an outpouring of support that has helped to keep them in the public consciousness for nearly two decades.
Director Amy Berg examines the crime and its aftermath, providing a voice for the victims’ families, including those with doubts about whether the right people are behind bars. Rather than focus on the accused, the film follows their supporters—including loved ones, attorneys, and celebrity advocates such as Eddie Vedder and Peter Jackson—as they seek the truth. With the help of a former FBI profiler, a less sensational, yet still chilling, motive and suspect emerge—ones, shockingly, never investigated.
With compelling, immediate access, West of Memphis follows the story of the West Memphis Three to its dramatic and unexpected conclusion, raising serious questions about justice and its compromises.
I've been following this story for a long time, years before I even knew of Pearl Jam. I'm just glad that those guys are finally free. It's a good thing that they keep making documentaries though, because it raises awareness, and maybe someday someone else who was wrongfully convicted will be freed too. If you are interested in such a case, you should check out the Harlow Cuadra case, he is currently serving life in prison. The only link that I could find at the moment is http://freewronglyconvictedharlow.blogspot.com/ but I'm sure there are many more if you google it.
I'm still out here waiting
Watching reruns of my life
You know what I was wondering? So one of Terry Hobbs's hairs was found in the KNOT used to tie up Michael Moore, right? And Hobbs said it was must've just gotten on the shoelace with which Michael was tied because the kids played at Terry's house - and then it stayed there for at least a day while the kid went home, took off his shoes, put his shoes back on, went to school, rode his bike all over the neighborhood, and got brutally murdered - right? Okay, so maybe that hair was just really holding on all that time. But how did it stay on the shoelace while the shoelace was being pulled out of the shoe, through all those tight little holes?
I'm a little disappointed in Paradise Lost 3. I thought it was too easy on Terry Hobbs. They really should have shown more of his violent background, his changing versions of his story, etc.
i completely disagree. i think they pointed the finger and nudged viewers to look in his direction. i view him as the killer. The revelation of his own family members who came forward to offer evidence that hobbs admitted it and refers to it as the hobbs family secret may not be a direct result of pl3, but its not a coincidence that the peter jackson film just was shown at sundance, and pl3 just aired.
i think the tide is turning. i would not want to be terry hobbs right now
a woman has just come forward to say, a knife in terry hobbs possession, contains fiber from the shoelaces used to tie and bind the 3 boys. So not only was hobbs hair found on the shoelace of a victim, his pocketknife now is tied to the crime as well.
a woman has just come forward to say, a knife in terry hobbs possession, contains fiber from the shoelaces used to tie and bind the 3 boys. So not only was hobbs hair found on the shoelace of a victim, his pocketknife now is tied to the crime as well.
I don't understand. Who is this woman? And how can she provide forensic evidence?
I just watched the latest documentary, really good work, but yes at the end of the day the justice system is still in a sad state. But activism really saved that kid's life. So it was sort of depressing but to see how much Eddie, Natalie, and Depp displayed really made me feel good about the hope of humanity. Love this fucking super caring band so much. Eddie really warms my heart always about how he cares about us fans and those that need it most.
as part of the peter jackson film, the DA ellinder, was given the 3 statements by hobbs family confessing, and the new fiber evidence, the da has said he is open to reinvestigating and reopening the case if evidence presents itself.
he is supposedly reading through the evidence currently
Just saw a commercial for the local news tonight. Judge Burnett is going to be giving an interview on what he "really thinks" tonight at 10:00. I'm not sure when they will have it up on the website, but the address is www.kait8.com. in case anyone is interested.
so, the latest as of last week, was that, the lawyers for damien and the others, had given the prosecutor ellington, several packets of information. ellington viewed the west of memphis documentary. he recieved the testimony of 3 witnesses from hobbs family who say he confessed. and they recieved, i believe the fiber evidence, shoe fiber from the shoelace used to tie michael moore up, was found on hobbs pocketknife.
ellington, in comparison to burkett, has been open and willing to take evidence. ellington has said, he is willing to reopen the case, look at new evidence.
But as of last week, he has said, he is reluctant to reopen the case.
Im wondering if the fiber evidence was included in the packet or if that will be included later.
I think ellington is being pulled in two directions. Too reopen the case and convict and try hobbs would be an admission that the wm3 were innocent and would cost the former prosecutors, politicians, and judges their livelihoods and reputation. Alot of peoples reputation was built on locking up 3 kids who supposedly murdered 3 other kids. And i also think ellington, hopefully realizes this case is rather explosive.
Part of the reason i think the wm3 were freed, is because the state govt felt it wasnt worth it, and they couldnt handle the pressure and publicity and money the case was getting.
Im hopeful ellington reopens the case and tries hobbs.
so, the latest as of last week, was that, the lawyers for damien and the others, had given the prosecutor ellington, several packets of information. ellington viewed the west of memphis documentary. he recieved the testimony of 3 witnesses from hobbs family who say he confessed. and they recieved, i believe the fiber evidence, shoe fiber from the shoelace used to tie michael moore up, was found on hobbs pocketknife.
ellington, in comparison to burkett, has been open and willing to take evidence. ellington has said, he is willing to reopen the case, look at new evidence.
But as of last week, he has said, he is reluctant to reopen the case.
Im wondering if the fiber evidence was included in the packet or if that will be included later.
I think ellington is being pulled in two directions. Too reopen the case and convict and try hobbs would be an admission that the wm3 were innocent and would cost the former prosecutors, politicians, and judges their livelihoods and reputation. Alot of peoples reputation was built on locking up 3 kids who supposedly murdered 3 other kids. And i also think ellington, hopefully realizes this case is rather explosive.
Part of the reason i think the wm3 were freed, is because the state govt felt it wasnt worth it, and they couldnt handle the pressure and publicity and money the case was getting.
Im hopeful ellington reopens the case and tries hobbs.
There's been quite a lot of questions raised re: the Alford Plea and whether or not an exoneration of the three will allow them to sue the state of Ark. As part of the plea, they cannot sue the state, but if exonerated, many question whether or not that will void the plea agreement, thereby making them eligible to sue....for upwards towards $60 million.
the DA Ellington, was one of the people who was instrumental is getting the Wm3 released and has remarked he is open to reopening the case if evidence is provided to him, is considering running for public office. Very interesting stuff, because in essence the unspoken idea would be he would be replaced and he wouldnt have to deal with the case anymore.
I do think the activism around the case hasnt stopped. And I think Ellington should or does realize this thing isnt going away. I think he, and if he runs and is elected, his replacement will have to deal with this case until someone else is indicted and jailed for the crimes.
well the DA who released the wm3 is now officially running for office. Should be interesting how much of an issue the wm3 is. I hope people put pressure on his to move on this case.
in other news an anonymous person has put up a 100,000 dollar reward for information and tips leading to arrest and conviction of the individuals responsible for the deaths of the 3 boys.
Should be interesting how this all plays out. Both the DA's campaign run, and now the reward and hopefully people coming forward with evidence.
well the DA who released the wm3 is now officially running for office. Should be interesting how much of an issue the wm3 is. I hope people put pressure on his to move on this case.
in other news an anonymous person has put up a 100,000 dollar reward for information and tips leading to arrest and conviction of the individuals responsible for the deaths of the 3 boys.
Should be interesting how this all plays out. Both the DA's campaign run, and now the reward and hopefully people coming forward with evidence.
the reward money for information leading to the arrest of the real killer has increased by 100,000 by another donor, bringing it to 200,000 total. Evidently, they have received some positive and helpful tips and leads. I also hear that the billboards which talk about this information, where to call whom to contact if you have info, are all in areas specifically and methodically planned out and thought out by the people responsible for this reward money. In other words these people putting up the reward money, know exactly who they want to come forward and talk, they are targeting specific individuals. Interestingly, and this goes along with that, the billboards are all in areas that Terry Hobbs either lives or frequents, or has family, etc...
oh and there is a time limit on the person who reports info getting the info. I think thats smart.
the reward money for information leading to the arrest of the real killer has increased by 100,000 by another donor, bringing it to 200,000 total. Evidently, they have received some positive and helpful tips and leads. I also hear that the billboards which talk about this information, where to call whom to contact if you have info, are all in areas specifically and methodically planned out and thought out by the people responsible for this reward money. In other words these people putting up the reward money, know exactly who they want to come forward and talk, they are targeting specific individuals. Interestingly, and this goes along with that, the billboards are all in areas that Terry Hobbs either lives or frequents, or has family, etc...
oh and there is a time limit on the person who reports info getting the info. I think thats smart.
the reward money for information leading to the arrest of the real killer has increased by 100,000 by another donor, bringing it to 200,000 total. Evidently, they have received some positive and helpful tips and leads. I also hear that the billboards which talk about this information, where to call whom to contact if you have info, are all in areas specifically and methodically planned out and thought out by the people responsible for this reward money. In other words these people putting up the reward money, know exactly who they want to come forward and talk, they are targeting specific individuals. Interestingly, and this goes along with that, the billboards are all in areas that Terry Hobbs either lives or frequents, or has family, etc...
oh and there is a time limit on the person who reports info getting the info. I think thats smart.
Wow. Interesting. I hope they stay on top of this; the "arrangement" the three were forced to go along with in their release is unfair. Really want to see them exonerated.
Of course I'm not the only one wondering EV is involved in the reward and billboards. Seems fairly likely.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
john douglas, a former FBI member, and criminal profiler, who gained fame in this case around 2007 when he was saying the WM3 were innocent and came up with a profile of the killer that suggests the killer, was one person, and they attacked the boys in a fit of rage. that it was unplanned.
anyways, the rumors now floating about are that john douglas spent an hour plus, on the phone with Ellington the DA who's running for office. Douglas supposedly has said on facebook that Ellington is "beginning to see things".
Hopefully this pans out.
i'd encourage everyone to read up on the manhole theory, which is what i believe to be what happened. in short, i believe terry hobbs saw the 3 boys that day, maybe they stopped by the house to ask him if they could stay out late. maybe stevie confronted terry about the abuse going on in the house, maybe terry caught wind of the boys planning to run away. Anyways, either terry chased them to the woods, or he met them in the woods. the boys were fans of the mutant ninja turtles. around the robin hood hills, there were many manholes. Either the boys ran to the woods to escape terry, and hid in a manhole, or maybe they went to the manhole on their own, planned running away, and then terry attacked them. I think he maybe hit his stepson as he was climbing out of the manhole, and he fell down, and the other two boys were witnesses so he killed them. Either way, they were attacked in or near the manhole. The manhole, the snapping turtles, and other animals and things inside the manhole including the rising water results in the bite marks, and animal predation, as well as the lack of blood or dna at the crime scene. Additionally marks on the bodies also look like rebar, or scraping against pavement or something. this could be the result of hobbs tieing the victims up in shoelaces, after their death and pulling them up from the manhole resulting in the rebar scrapes. This also explains the odd way the boys were tied up. they werent tied up really to prevent them from moving, they were tied up so as to allow terry to transport them from the manhole to the spot where they were found. the manhole also provides a clue why the bodies of the boys werent found by any of the searchers initially. hobbs left the boys in the manhole all night went back home, and went out searching alternately with his friend and wife and everyone else. That night while Pam his wife was sleeping he went back to the woods and put the bodies where they were found.
this is the only way that accruately explains why hobbs hair was found so close to the crime scene. By his own admission he and his good friend Jacoby, were in and out of the woods all night. His hair was found on the victims shoelaces, and his friends hair on a tree stump a few feet away. Theres just no way either of them could have passed by the bodies and not seen them. At this point I believe Jacoby to be secondary transfer. Innocent transfer.
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Oh this is hysterical...
Stop! Stop! Stop!
They are free! Dr. Suess wrote Green Eggs And Ham as a Dare. This is so funny... A movie?
Three Documentaries were not enough! Beat a dead horse to make sure it's dead. Find it a sponser? Endorse the heck out of it. But, make sure you put a slug through it's brain too make DaMN Sure it's dead. Anyone see "Zomieland"? Double Tap , Folks.
Hell No They will not be a Babysister if I needed one!
Sorry my very low IQ makes me crazy. Can Joesph help? or Damien?
12/20/11 ... update.. locking the doors.
Who is this Miranda Guy anyway? Was that an 80's hit? or any early 90's dance song Mocrerna? It's a shame I'm stupid and never had a Full college edumetcation.
So many Hate!... Mr. Troy died the Same day! (he did not have a fan club only a shitty lawyer) California is strange too! Put them on death row to make the post office suffer with bags of "FAN MAIL". Taxes... where do they go? The tower at U.T. .... it was locals that got him. TX had enough! There was no swat team back then! Texans with too much paticence, Juan Seguin.
Paradise is NOT Lost. Best Wishes. I enjoyed the article in the Sniper from the EV shows. I could sympathize with the writings in there.
West of Memphis - Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFSuAI1ao8A
http://filmguide.sundance.org/film/1200 ... of_memphis
For many people, the case of the West Memphis Three has become synonymous with wrongful conviction. Despite a lack of physical evidence, three Arkansas teenagers were found guilty in 1994 of the ritual murder of three eight-year-old boys. Media attention led to an outpouring of support that has helped to keep them in the public consciousness for nearly two decades.
Director Amy Berg examines the crime and its aftermath, providing a voice for the victims’ families, including those with doubts about whether the right people are behind bars. Rather than focus on the accused, the film follows their supporters—including loved ones, attorneys, and celebrity advocates such as Eddie Vedder and Peter Jackson—as they seek the truth. With the help of a former FBI profiler, a less sensational, yet still chilling, motive and suspect emerge—ones, shockingly, never investigated.
With compelling, immediate access, West of Memphis follows the story of the West Memphis Three to its dramatic and unexpected conclusion, raising serious questions about justice and its compromises.
Watching reruns of my life
http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/2012-su ... ran-walsh/
i completely disagree. i think they pointed the finger and nudged viewers to look in his direction. i view him as the killer. The revelation of his own family members who came forward to offer evidence that hobbs admitted it and refers to it as the hobbs family secret may not be a direct result of pl3, but its not a coincidence that the peter jackson film just was shown at sundance, and pl3 just aired.
i think the tide is turning. i would not want to be terry hobbs right now
I don't understand. Who is this woman? And how can she provide forensic evidence?
he is supposedly reading through the evidence currently
http://paradiselost3themovie.com/photos-video/
fade away...
I am at peace with my lust.....for Eddie.
I had to myself/// can't even sleep...
ellington, in comparison to burkett, has been open and willing to take evidence. ellington has said, he is willing to reopen the case, look at new evidence.
But as of last week, he has said, he is reluctant to reopen the case.
Im wondering if the fiber evidence was included in the packet or if that will be included later.
I think ellington is being pulled in two directions. Too reopen the case and convict and try hobbs would be an admission that the wm3 were innocent and would cost the former prosecutors, politicians, and judges their livelihoods and reputation. Alot of peoples reputation was built on locking up 3 kids who supposedly murdered 3 other kids. And i also think ellington, hopefully realizes this case is rather explosive.
Part of the reason i think the wm3 were freed, is because the state govt felt it wasnt worth it, and they couldnt handle the pressure and publicity and money the case was getting.
Im hopeful ellington reopens the case and tries hobbs.
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/featur ... -byers.php
There's been quite a lot of questions raised re: the Alford Plea and whether or not an exoneration of the three will allow them to sue the state of Ark. As part of the plea, they cannot sue the state, but if exonerated, many question whether or not that will void the plea agreement, thereby making them eligible to sue....for upwards towards $60 million.
I do think the activism around the case hasnt stopped. And I think Ellington should or does realize this thing isnt going away. I think he, and if he runs and is elected, his replacement will have to deal with this case until someone else is indicted and jailed for the crimes.
in other news an anonymous person has put up a 100,000 dollar reward for information and tips leading to arrest and conviction of the individuals responsible for the deaths of the 3 boys.
Should be interesting how this all plays out. Both the DA's campaign run, and now the reward and hopefully people coming forward with evidence.
I wonder who put up the reward money.
oh and there is a time limit on the person who reports info getting the info. I think thats smart.
somethings got to give soon
Of course I'm not the only one wondering EV is involved in the reward and billboards. Seems fairly likely.
anyways, the rumors now floating about are that john douglas spent an hour plus, on the phone with Ellington the DA who's running for office. Douglas supposedly has said on facebook that Ellington is "beginning to see things".
Hopefully this pans out.
i'd encourage everyone to read up on the manhole theory, which is what i believe to be what happened. in short, i believe terry hobbs saw the 3 boys that day, maybe they stopped by the house to ask him if they could stay out late. maybe stevie confronted terry about the abuse going on in the house, maybe terry caught wind of the boys planning to run away. Anyways, either terry chased them to the woods, or he met them in the woods. the boys were fans of the mutant ninja turtles. around the robin hood hills, there were many manholes. Either the boys ran to the woods to escape terry, and hid in a manhole, or maybe they went to the manhole on their own, planned running away, and then terry attacked them. I think he maybe hit his stepson as he was climbing out of the manhole, and he fell down, and the other two boys were witnesses so he killed them. Either way, they were attacked in or near the manhole. The manhole, the snapping turtles, and other animals and things inside the manhole including the rising water results in the bite marks, and animal predation, as well as the lack of blood or dna at the crime scene. Additionally marks on the bodies also look like rebar, or scraping against pavement or something. this could be the result of hobbs tieing the victims up in shoelaces, after their death and pulling them up from the manhole resulting in the rebar scrapes. This also explains the odd way the boys were tied up. they werent tied up really to prevent them from moving, they were tied up so as to allow terry to transport them from the manhole to the spot where they were found. the manhole also provides a clue why the bodies of the boys werent found by any of the searchers initially. hobbs left the boys in the manhole all night went back home, and went out searching alternately with his friend and wife and everyone else. That night while Pam his wife was sleeping he went back to the woods and put the bodies where they were found.
this is the only way that accruately explains why hobbs hair was found so close to the crime scene. By his own admission he and his good friend Jacoby, were in and out of the woods all night. His hair was found on the victims shoelaces, and his friends hair on a tree stump a few feet away. Theres just no way either of them could have passed by the bodies and not seen them. At this point I believe Jacoby to be secondary transfer. Innocent transfer.