*** West Memphis 3 News Updated: 8.18.11 ***

dasvidana

blondieblue227 wrote:

they gotta be at PJ20!

so happy.....

i wonder what their lives will be like now? gesh.

can somebody tell again how pj/ed got involved with their case?

I think that Ed became motivated after watching the Paradise Lost documentaries on HBO. I think the WM3 case resonates so well with him and other musicians because most of us have been marginalized at some point in our lives. The majority of us are just lucky that we don't live in the Bible Belt and don't get accused of a triple murder in the name of Satan. But think of how many times people are wrongly convicted, especially when they are poor and uneducated. It's scary.

Heisenberg

Thought this was a nice article with a little bit about how Mr. Echols is adapting to his first few days of freedom.

http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2011/08/22/778936.aspx

Dark Star

Heisenberg wrote:

Thought this was a nice article with a little bit about how Mr. Echols is adapting to his first few days of freedom.

http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2011/08/22/778936.aspx

That article was decent but lacked the facts. He forgot to mention that DNA from a hair follicle from Terry Hobbs, the stepfather, was found in a knot used to constrain one of the victims, and lets not forget that Terry Hobbs' friend, who was seen with Terry that day by multiple people, also had a hair follicle DNA match that was found on a tree stump at the crime scene. Witnesses saw Terry Hobbs and his friend with the boys right before they disappeared. No DNA from the WM3 was found, not a trace.

This whole case has been so surreal from start to finish. So happy for those guys, we all know they're innocent, soon the whole world will I believe, the lawmen of Memphis can run but they can't hide.

Cradles Broken Glass

Dark Star wrote:

Heisenberg wrote:

Thought this was a nice article with a little bit about how Mr. Echols is adapting to his first few days of freedom.

http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2011/08/22/778936.aspx

That article was decent but lacked the facts. He forgot to mention that DNA from a hair follicle from Terry Hobbs, the stepfather, was found in a knot used to constrain one of the victims, and lets not forget that Terry Hobbs' friend, who was seen with Terry that day by multiple people, also had a hair follicle DNA match that was found on a tree stump at the crime scene. Witnesses saw Terry Hobbs and his friend with the boys right before they disappeared. No DNA from the WM3 was found, not a trace.

This whole case has been so surreal from start to finish. So happy for those guys, we all know they're innocent, soon the whole world will I believe, the lawmen of Memphis can run but they can't hide.

The thing that is amazing to me is that the state if AR knows that they did not do it. The state did not cave to pressure from supporters and celebrities. Also, as you mentioned, I think we all know who really did it. However, thanks to the nice little deal the state made to essentially cover their ass, the real killer will walk free. I'm ecstatic that the WM3 are free, but saddened that real justice simply eluded them and the three murdered boys. I'm also really sad for Mr. Moore, who still thinks the WM3 did it, I cannot imagine losing a child and now he thinks the killers are free. Although I think that most people see their innocence and knows the state would not have turned three killers loose (despite letting the real killer walk), I just can't see how some people still doubt their innocence. Their release on Friday is just proof, despite the legalities of the terms, that the WM3 are innocent.

SS1480

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/exonerate-the-wm3/
this is a link to a petition to the Governor of Arkansas to fully exonerate Damien, Jason, and Jessie. And it's not just any old petition... this one has the full backing of the aunt and biological father of one of the murdered boys, Christopher Murray Byers. I've been in communication with Christopher's aunt Cindy, and they want the truth to be known.

dasvidana

Here is the question and answer session that happened at University of Arkansas last Thursday.

http://www.clintonschoolspeakers.com/le ... nd-future/

dasvidana

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2 ... eedom.html

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dasvidana wrote:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/08/28/the-west-memphis-three-their-first-taste-of-freedom.html

Excellent piece. Thanks for posting.

Blockhead

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dasvidana wrote:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/08/28/the-west-memphis-three-their-first-taste-of-freedom.html

Excellent piece. Thanks for posting.

Really? Excellent piece?
So you approve of lying when it supports your agenda?
This piece is lie after lie...
Its sad that people can't read the actual case, get their facts, and then come to a conclusion.

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Blockhead wrote:

_ wrote:

dasvidana wrote:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/08/28/the-west-memphis-three-their-first-taste-of-freedom.html

Excellent piece. Thanks for posting.

Really? Excellent piece?
So you approve of lying when it supports your agenda?
This piece is lie after lie...
Its sad that people can't read the actual case, get their facts, and then come to a conclusion.

Please don't ruin the stickied thread too.

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dasvidana wrote:

Here is the question and answer session that happened at University of Arkansas last Thursday.

http://www.clintonschoolspeakers.com/le ... nd-future/

Thanks so much for posting this! I just watched the whole thing. Lots of interesting information, right from the horses' mouths, so to speak. (And with the key players from BOTH sides on the panel, so either side could stand up against any facts they thought were being misrepresented.) :thumbup:

Here is some of what was said, for those of you who don't have time to watch it:

The Prosecuting Attorney said more than once that he thought they would get a new trial & be acquitted. He also said witnesses have changed their minds and have "credibility issues," and noted that even some of the victims' parents think the WM3 are innocent.

The moderator said there was nobody in the room who had been on the case longer than Mara Leveritt. (She is the author of the Daily Beast article referenced in the previous post. She also wrote a 419-page book on the case, Devil's Knot, where she cited 430 references.)

The Arkansas Supreme Court's opinion affirming Jessie's conviction was noted a couple of times. They said they couldn't believe Jessie had been convicted with no evidence except his confession, and that they don't condone the tactics used to get the confession.

Both Jessie and Jason were offered reduced sentences to testify against Damien but they refused to take the deal because he didn't do it.

Jessie's first lawyer originally thought he was guilty because of the confession, but changed his mind once he did his research.

They said the big donors have said they're still going to continue the fight. Also, there is talk about setting up funds to help the WM3 get on their feet.

The Prosecuting Attorney said he believes they're guilty based on the fact that they were convicted and their convictions were upheld, but that he hasn't actually read the police file.

One of the panelists noted to the Prosecuting Attorney that there is absolutely no physical evidence linking any of these three to the crime and he didn't dispute that.

The Prosecuting Attorney said the state crime lab will run the DNA through their system "to assist in further investigation" and that he would still accept evidence from the defense.

It was noted that the state had the ability to do DNA testing at the time of the crime and the Prosecuting Attorney agreed.

Jason and Jessie's lawyers (and maybe Damien's, but they didn't comment about his) have been working for free for at least 8 years.

When asked whether the guys can make money from their story, one of the lawyers said the law prohibiting this applies to the crime itself, but not the trial, prison life, etc - so, in theory, they should be able to.

Apparently the plea itself precludes them from suing the state (someone said they could sue for $54 million), but they were additionally made to sign liability waivers as part of the terms of their release.

There were 5 people on the panel representing the "not guilty" side and just one - the prosecutor - representing the "guilty" side. The moderator said they tried to get more people from the "guilty" side but weren't able to.

maj4e

Those attorneys did a heck of a job and secured work forever by getting these guys out of jail.

Go Beavers

Blockhead wrote:

_ wrote:

dasvidana wrote:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/08/28/the-west-memphis-three-their-first-taste-of-freedom.html

Excellent piece. Thanks for posting.

Really? Excellent piece?
So you approve of lying when it supports your agenda?
This piece is lie after lie...
Its sad that people can't read the actual case, get their facts, and then come to a conclusion.

You also referenced a certain someone lying in another thread. I'm curious what the lies are. Could you please post the lies and the actual facts that prove your point? If you've already done it in another thread, point me in that direction. Thanks.

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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid= ... 334&type=1

AWESOME photo!

STAYSEA

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dasvidana

STAYSEA wrote:

Sorry, I will go back to answering phones now....

Please do.

STAYSEA

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gbridgeman

Article today in New Zealand herald today about Damien Echols currently being in NZ as a guest of Sir Peter Jackson, sounds like the possibility of a movie/documentary...

http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... 87&ref=rss

morello

gbridgeman wrote:

Article today in New Zealand herald today about Damien Echols currently being in NZ as a guest of Sir Peter Jackson, sounds like the possibility of a movie/documentary...

http://msn.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... 87&ref=rss

I was just going to post that article up. What a dreadful fkn article! "Peter Jackson gets 'killer' into NZ" Shows how much the media can completely fk with news to give it whatever angle they want!

Buttt... cool if Peter's doing a movie or doco or something & cool that Damien's in NZ, soaking up some chilled out NZ time hopefully.

Indifference

recent GQ article if interested:


http://www.gq.com/news-politics/newsmak ... table=true