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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Ok well then perhaps you can very simply explain why this movement formed and gained steam when it did? Seems like a very easy task and commentary if you believe it had nothing to do with Obama..right? It would have a very distinct moment or speech or action right? I'm sure you'd be able to find some articles or commentary stating as such...I mean after all it is a political movement and party right? I'll be waiting on that, but certainly not holding my breath.

    And yes Smellyman i know...
    aerial wrote:
    That’s right you can’t win an argument when your wrong.. :lol:
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    That’s right you can’t win an argument when your wrong.. :lol:
    ...
    I hate to break the news to you... but, only stupid people think arguements are about winning or losing.
    Arguements (debate, open discussion) is supposed to be a means of communicating ideas.
    ...
    A word of advice... stick to sports.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,827
    The Tea Party is totally Republican how can anyone not call it for what it really is ...At least come here and be honest and stand by your party :roll:
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  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    josevolution wrote:
    The Tea Party is totally Republican how can anyone not call it for what it really is ...At least come here and be honest and stand by your party :roll:

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    josevolution wrote:
    The Tea Party is totally Republican how can anyone not call it for what it really is ...At least come here and be honest and stand by your party :roll:
    How can it be totally Rep. when I am not a Rep.?
    I don't understand the facination concerning when the Party began. Im just glad people got The Party Started!
    “We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    It's a very simple question... For someone who is so supportive of a political movement, don't you think it's best to fully understand everything about it so you can clearly explain your points and opinions to others instead of simply dismissing and saying people are wrong?

    Hint: look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement
    aerial wrote:
    I don't understand the facination concerning when the Party began. Im just glad people got The Party Started!
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Gary Carter
    Gary Carter Posts: 14,077
    aerial wrote:
    How can it be totally Rep. when I am not a Rep.?
    I don't understand the facination concerning when the Party began. Im just glad people got The Party Started!
    so sarah palin didn't run for the 2008 republican nomination

    really now?


    http://www.teaparty.org/?p=2

    kinda funny how you see no calling out of the republican party on their homepage and it's nothing but bashing democrats and liberals. funny i don't see anything bout Carl Paladino homophobic remarks on the tea party website. i guess he gets a pass on his homophobic remarks cause he's a tea party member. also funny how the tea party only really started when obama was president. where was this "party" when bush was in power, huh?


    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix ... s-tea.html


    notice the (R) next to her name. i guess she's not a republican huh? how come i don't see a (T) next to her name if she truly is a tea party member.
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    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    aerial wrote:
    josevolution wrote:
    The Tea Party is totally Republican how can anyone not call it for what it really is ...At least come here and be honest and stand by your party :roll:
    How can it be totally Rep. when I am not a Rep.?
    I don't understand the facination concerning when the Party began. Im just glad people got The Party Started!
    ...
    You're NOT a Republican??? Come on, you KNOW we are not stupid, here... right?
    If you are not a Republican.. then, I am a cat that smokes a cigarette and thinks Sarah Palin is the smartest person on the planet.
    Come on... if your are going to make up shit... at least **try** to make it believable.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    FiveB247x wrote:
    I can't account for others' comments or similar, but I feel the tea party is nothing more than Rep's & Conservs with a new gimmick and name. As for my other comments, please tell me how it is wrong? Our nation has been practicing most of the complaints they lodge for decades now, and all of a sudden, they start this "movement"? I find it pretty naive to say it anything other than simply their side got voted out of power, so they turned to this instead and it stemmed from there. No one cared or said a peep when Bush was in office about any of these topics or issues... and it was for 8 yrs at extreme levels. It's seriously nonsense and a distortion of fact to try and say it any other way. You can claim so to save face, but most of us see right through.
    aerial wrote:
    I hope they get it soon….They (Obama sheep) have been so brain washed they make up things to hate about the Tea Party…such as the Tea Party is racist but just look at gimmesometruth’s post why put people in your little groups
    “ polling badly among African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and Muslim Americans”.
    The Tea Party has always said everyone is more than welcomed to participate…..we don’t say come African Americans oh and you Hispanics can come also….The Tea Party does not care about the colour of skin as they do….. Yet we are the racist. :roll:

    Don't worry five, you're responding to the person who thinks the private sales of land to condominium developers is communism.
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  • haffajappa
    haffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    I think a lot of people are still trying to figure out who it is that you guys need to "take your country back" from... :?
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  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    MellowCat wrote:
    Can somebody explain to me what exactly it is that the Tea Party people are doing that is so "offensive" to liberals?

    I'm sorry, but I see nothing wrong with telling our government to read the fucking bills, quit wasteful spending, lower our taxes, quit bailing out corrupt-ass insurance companies and banks and to stop growing our government. Is B.S.NBC persuasive enough to convince people these things are bad? I'm just not getting it.

    I like the fact that the Tea Party doesn't give a fuck whether you have a (D) or an (R) in front of your name. They think all the politicians suck. I can't understand how this movement has so many American citizens' panties in a wad. I've been hoping for at least 10 years that this type of movement would happen because I'm sick and tired of everything coming down to the (D) and the (R), clouding all common sense. Fuck 'em all, I say.



    :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

    I haven't actually participated in any tea parties but i feel the same way. I'm sure the tea party would welcome any democrat if they just participated in these beliefs. But i'm afraid you're barking up the wrong tree on this web site. Most people here are hard core liberals and they support large government, wasteful spending(except for war), and socialism. What happened to Americe is the land where you create your own wealth and happiness instead of everyone else creating it for you?
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    haffajappa wrote:
    I think a lot of people are still trying to figure out who it is that you guys need to "take your country back" from... :?


    If you haven't figured it out by now.....it's from people like you. 8-)
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    MellowCat wrote:
    Can somebody explain to me what exactly it is that the Tea Party people are doing that is so "offensive" to liberals?

    I'm sorry, but I see nothing wrong with telling our government to read the fucking bills, quit wasteful spending, lower our taxes, quit bailing out corrupt-ass insurance companies and banks and to stop growing our government. Is B.S.NBC persuasive enough to convince people these things are bad? I'm just not getting it.

    I like the fact that the Tea Party doesn't give a fuck whether you have a (D) or an (R) in front of your name. They think all the politicians suck. I can't understand how this movement has so many American citizens' panties in a wad. I've been hoping for at least 10 years that this type of movement would happen because I'm sick and tired of everything coming down to the (D) and the (R), clouding all common sense. Fuck 'em all, I say.
    ...
    Not (D) or (R)? Do you really believe that?
    If that is the case... then, WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU FROM 2000 to 2008?!?!?! The government grew to an enormous size... became intrusive... adapted tactics that are associated with Soviet Gulags and Nazi Gestapo... inflated the government spending... let the Wall Street douchebags make their own rules... and only protect the richest citizens and allowed the middle class to slide further from them.
    Don't give me this bullshit about 'Caring for America' because if you really DID give a fuck about America... you would have come online way before 2009.
    The Tea Party is a part of the Republican Party... PERIOD. You are NOT Independent, otherwise you would be voting in the Independents, not more Republicans. Your mouthpiece is FOX News, which sponsors your rallys and your spokes people are Glenn beck, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh. The sweetheart of the Tea Party is Sarah Palin.
    Now... all that being said... please, what part of you embraces the Democratic agenda.
    ...
    My guess is NONE. Because the Tea Party is Republican.



    Is that you ever have to say about the tea party? When the Tea Party is still active for the reasons in the OP and the reps are running the show what are you going to say then???


    Better late then never. If the tea Party was around 6 years ago i believe you would be a strong supporter. You just have a hard time with it because it happened during a democrats run. People were upset during the Bush years. People were expecting better things to happen when Obama stepped in. But all he did was spend spend spend. That, I believe, is what threw people over the edge. The straw that broke the cammels back sort of speak. If democrats would just suck it up and realize that our government spends too much money, drives us deeper in debt over stupid bullshit, and we all joined forces, we could actually get something done about this.


    I had a thought today. What if we put our congress on a commision type salary. The better they take care of the economy, and the better they keep us out of debt, and the less money they borrow or print, means the more they would make on their paycheck. Sounds reasonable to me. I bet that would give them a little incentive to turn things around. it would force them to think a little more about us, for their own benifit.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Is that you ever have to say about the tea party? When the Tea Party is still active for the reasons in the OP what are you going to say then???
    ...
    I'm guessing you are asking me if that is all I ever say about the Tea Party...
    If so, then the answer is 'only when someone tries to pass off that non-partisan/Independent bullshit'.
    And what am I going to say if the Republicans take over the government and the Tea Party is still active? I don't think I am going to have to say anything because the Tea Party will dissolve and revert back to making up excuses for the government. My guess... Blaming President Obama and the Democrats for everything, and pretending that the Bush administration never occurred.
    I was actually excited when the Tea Party first started because it initally WAs an independent movement that looked to displace the incumbants with qualified INDEPENDENT (mostly Libertarian Party) Candidates. I was hoping that it would be the beginning of a viable third party. But, when the FOX News crew that includes Karl Rove took over and it became the militant wing of the republican party.. I was out.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Is that you ever have to say about the tea party? When the Tea Party is still active for the reasons in the OP what are you going to say then???
    ...
    I'm guessing you are asking me if that is all I ever say about the Tea Party...
    If so, then the answer is 'only when someone tries to pass off that non-partisan/Independent bullshit'.
    And what am I going to say if the Republicans take over the government and the Tea Party is still active? I don't think I am going to have to say anything because the Tea Party will dissolve and revert back to making up excuses for the government. My guess... Blaming President Obama and the Democrats for everything, and pretending that the Bush administration never occurred.
    I was actually excited when the Tea Party first started because it initally WAs an independent movement that looked to displace the incumbants with qualified INDEPENDENT (mostly Libertarian Party) Candidates. I was hoping that it would be the beginning of a viable third party. But, when the FOX News crew that includes Karl Rove took over and it became the militant wing of the republican party.. I was out.


    My guess... Blaming President Obama and the Democrats for everything, and pretending that the Bush administration never occurred.

    And the wheels go round and round.

    You may be right about the tea party desolving when the parties change.....but i hope not.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Is that you ever have to say about the tea party? When the Tea Party is still active for the reasons in the OP and the reps are running the show what are you going to say then???

    Better late then never. If the tea Party was around 6 years ago i believe you would be a strong supporter. You just have a hard time with it because it happened during a democrats run. People were upset during the Bush years. People were expecting better things to happen when Obama stepped in. But all he did was spend spend spend. That, I believe, is what threw people over the edge. The straw that broke the cammels back sort of speak. If democrats would just suck it up and realize that our government spends too much money, drives us deeper in debt over stupid bullshit, and we all joined forces, we could actually get something done about this.

    I had a thought today. What if we put our congress on a commision type salary. The better they take care of the economy, and the better they keep us out of debt, and the less money they borrow or print, means the more they would make on their paycheck. Sounds reasonable to me. I bet that would give them a little incentive to turn things around. it would force them to think a little more about us, for their own benifit.
    ...
    If the Tea Party was around 6 years ago, it would have been a viable movement with credibility... and I may have been onboard. But, in it's current form, my assessment is that they probably WOULD have supported the wars and ballooning deficits would have been rationalized as a necessary side effect. The growth of government would probably have been justified in the name of security... unregulated Wall Streeters as 'Free Market Capitalism'. And I would be out.
    And you are wrong it your assessment of my opposition because of Democratic ideology. I am not as anti-tax as you because i understand that taxes are required. Taxes pay for our military, our highways, our national parks. Government needs to be in place because the greed of business has proven that when left to make the rules they must adhere to... no rules are made and the result is false economic growth where they are the one who get rich and the rest of us pay for it.
    Because of the situation we were in, we had two choices... try to save the markets or let the entire system crash. No good choices, difficult choices. As much as I didn't like it... I felt that saving the markets was painful, but letting them crash was death.
    ...
    Now let me ask you... would you have let the major investment house crash... let General Motors and Chrysler fail? Why?
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Boxes&Books
    Boxes&Books USA Posts: 2,672
    edited October 2010
    The Original tea party was started up by Ron Paul. But many "conservatives" didn't like the idea of pulling our troops out of the Middle East. Many "conservatives" didn't like the idea of ending the cash flow to all of these special interest groups! That's why so many of you current tea baggers/ republican's couldn't be a part of the original tea party movement. Ron Raul was/ is the real deal tea party movement...... but these new so-called "tea baggers/conservatives" are part of the same old shit!! Look at heads of the tea bagger movement...tell me those old white guys currently running the t. party aren't the same old guys who have been around for years(republican-extreme right)? what a freaking joke!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    i could get behind, at least respect a ron paul based movement, he is the real deal. but the movement swept towards partisanship, pushed along by fox, and now might as well be an arm of the republican party.

    the hypocrisy surrounding the tea party is too much for me.
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Cosmo wrote:
    OnTheEdge wrote:
    Is that you ever have to say about the tea party? When the Tea Party is still active for the reasons in the OP and the reps are running the show what are you going to say then???

    Better late then never. If the tea Party was around 6 years ago i believe you would be a strong supporter. You just have a hard time with it because it happened during a democrats run. People were upset during the Bush years. People were expecting better things to happen when Obama stepped in. But all he did was spend spend spend. That, I believe, is what threw people over the edge. The straw that broke the cammels back sort of speak. If democrats would just suck it up and realize that our government spends too much money, drives us deeper in debt over stupid bullshit, and we all joined forces, we could actually get something done about this.

    I had a thought today. What if we put our congress on a commision type salary. The better they take care of the economy, and the better they keep us out of debt, and the less money they borrow or print, means the more they would make on their paycheck. Sounds reasonable to me. I bet that would give them a little incentive to turn things around. it would force them to think a little more about us, for their own benifit.
    ...
    If the Tea Party was around 6 years ago, it would have been a viable movement with credibility... and I may have been onboard. But, in it's current form, my assessment is that they probably WOULD have supported the wars and ballooning deficits would have been rationalized as a necessary side effect. The growth of government would probably have been justified in the name of security... unregulated Wall Streeters as 'Free Market Capitalism'. And I would be out.
    And you are wrong it your assessment of my opposition because of Democratic ideology. I am not as anti-tax as you because i understand that taxes are required. Taxes pay for our military, our highways, our national parks. Government needs to be in place because the greed of business has proven that when left to make the rules they must adhere to... no rules are made and the result is false economic growth where they are the one who get rich and the rest of us pay for it.
    Because of the situation we were in, we had two choices... try to save the markets or let the entire system crash. No good choices, difficult choices. As much as I didn't like it... I felt that saving the markets was painful, but letting them crash was death.
    ...
    Now let me ask you... would you have let the major investment house crash... let General Motors and Chrysler fail? Why?


    Let me ask you this. I am at the verge of financial ruin from carelessness in my past.....should I get a bailout from the government to keep my life from crashing?
  • OnTheEdge
    OnTheEdge Posts: 1,300
    Commy wrote:
    i could get behind, at least respect a ron paul based movement, he is the real deal. but the movement swept towards partisanship, pushed along by fox, and now might as well be an arm of the republican party.

    the hypocrisy surrounding the tea party is too much for me.


    With all due respect...i do not see this. I see Fox covering the real issues of the Tea Party while Obama sponsored media networks puts a spin on it to make it look racial..... or like a bunch of ignorant rednecks. By posting and publishing only certain atributes of the party to serve their own agenda.

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